'I'll leave university with TV and film connections'

Laura Coffey,BBC political reporter, Northamptonshire, Northamptonand
Nic Rigby,BBC Politics East
News imageMartin Giles/BBC University of Northampton student Liam Gambrell, studying hair, make up and prosthetics for stage and screen, looking at a wigMartin Giles/BBC
The University of Northampton has a course about hair, make-up and prosthetics for stage and screen

Students have defended creative arts degrees after they were criticised for being "dead-end" courses.

Shadow education secretary Laura Trott said that the Conservative Party wants to "stop the government funding dead-end university courses".

Television and film student Ava Payne Spellman, 21, of St Albans, Hertfordshire, told BBC Politics East that coming from a single parent family she would never have got the industry contacts without the help of the University of Northampton.

Samuel Birch, 29, of Northampton, studying creative film television and digital media, said it was clear when he was in the workplace there was a "ceiling" to how much he could earn without a degree.

News imageMartin Giles/BBC University of Northampton student sewing as part of one of the textile coursesMartin Giles/BBC
A University of Northampton student who studies one of the textile courses

What did the Conservative Party say?

News imageShadow education secretary Laura Trott
Shadow education secretary Laura Trott said she would like to close 100,000 university places to alleviate debt and fund apprenticeships

Trott said a 2020 report from the Institute of Fiscal Studies found up to 30% of young people going to university have negative returns.

She said she would like to close 100,000 university places to alleviate debt and fund apprenticeships.

Pressed about which courses would be forced to close, Trott provided the example of creative arts.

Some 75% of loans for these courses, she said, were "not paid back".

The shadow education secretary acknowledged that these were "difficult" decisions but said they were the right ones to be making to help young people secure work.

She added: "We'd have to look at the effect on the whole system, but I refuse to keep funding degree courses which are not delivering for young people."

What do students say?

News imageMartin Giles/BBC Ava Payne Spellman, 21, from St Albans, studies creative film, television and digital media production at the University of NorthamptonMartin Giles/BBC
Ava Payne Spellman, 21, from St Albans, studies creative film, television and digital media production at the University of Northampton

University of Northampton student Ava Payne Spellman said: "I come from a single parent household. I wouldn't have had the connections to get into the media industry.

"I'm very confident now that I am going to leave university this year with different connnections in TV and film.

"I don't think I'd have been able to get where I am now without being able to do a course like this at university."

News imageMartin Giles/BBC Samuel Birch - 29 from Northampton - Creative Film Television and Digital MediaMartin Giles/BBC
Samuel Birch, 29, of Northampton, is studying creative film, television and digital media

Student Samuel Birch said: "When I looked at leaving my previous job, all the jobs I looked at had a very, very clear ceiling.

"It was 'you can get to here, you can earn this much, but if you don't get a degree you're not going to go beyond that'.

"I think these sorts of courses are crucial."

What does the university say?

News imageMartin Giles/BBC Pro-Vice Chancellor Education and Student Experience Alice WilbyMartin Giles/BBC
Pro-Vice Chancellor of Education and Student Experience Alice Wilby

The Pro-Vice Chancellor at the University of Northampton Alice Wilby said she supported the call for more apprenticeships by the Conservative Party.

She said: "I would welcome apprenticeships and more higher degree apprenticeships.

"It's a fantastic way students can get real world experience and a degree at the same time, so that is a brilliant thing.

"But I would be concerned if that were at the expense of more traditional degrees because they still have a really valuable place and the vast majority of students do go on to earn substantially more than they would have done if they hadn't gone to university."

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