PM tells Stormont parties to be 'realistic' in budget negotiations

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The prime minister said he does not have "unlimited funds"

The Prime Minister Andy Burnham has called on the executive parties at Stormont to be "realistic" when it comes to deciding whether to accept an offer of extra money to help agree a budget this year.

He said he had "listened carefully" to them and heard their concerns about a funding shortfall, but added that he did not have "unlimited funds".

The government has offered the executive £1.5bn over the next three years in extra funding to help stabilise its finances, but parties have said it does not touch the sides of what they need to break even.

Education Minister Paul Givan warned that a budget "ultimatum" offered by the Northern Ireland Secretary "isn't going to bode well for trying to get a settled outcome".

But Burnham said he believed the parties had been offered a "fair and good deal".

When it was put to the prime minister that Stormont's Finance Minister John O'Dowd said the executive needs closer to £5bn over three years, he replied: "We are very tight, and I'm having difficult discussions with all parts of Whitehall at this moment in time."

"There is not there is not a situation where there is money hanging around where I can just hand it out. It just doesn't exist," he added.

"You can't endlessly then move the goalposts, you've just got to be realistic."

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The education minister said the secretary of state needs to "get realistic" about the Northern Ireland budget

Givan said negotiations with the UK Government were entering "no-deal territory", after Sir Chris Bryant said on Thursday there would be no improvement on his £1.5m offer.

Sir Chris said there was "no more money" available and has given executive parties until next Thursday to respond.

Givan said the current budget offer could not provide full funding for the Department of Education for this financial year, even if no other department received any money.

The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) minister said the cost of overall pressures and overspends for the executive this year had been calculated at £1.6bn

It is estimated the same figure would be required for each of the next two years.

Sir Chris's current offer "doesn't even come close", Givan told BBC Radio Ulster's Good Morning Ulster programme.

"If the secretary of state continues to take the approach that he outlined yesterday, then it is moving to a no-deal territory."

He added: "Now he puts down this ultimatum and if that is his style of negotiation, then it isn't going to bode well for trying to get a settled outcome, which is what the people of Northern Ireland need."

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Northern Ireland Executive parties had rejected an initial £1.1bn package over three years, before an increased offer was made

Givan said the fundamental core of the issue was a funding formula discrepancy between Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, which he said had to be addressed.

He said any offers from Sir Chris should not "mask the failures in the current formula" and instead should "get to the core of the challenge… an unfair funding formula which has created this cycle of financial problems for our executive".

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Finance Minister John O'Dowd says a way must be found to give public service workers pay rises

Finance Minister John O'Dowd said Sir Chris and his predecessors had been "unable to refute our argument that we are underfunded compared to Scotland and Wales".

The Sinn Féin assembly member said the secretary of state's final offer approach wasn't "a response to the fundamental problem at the centre of this argument".

"It's about fairness and equality and about treating people here with a modicum of respect even, in terms of how they get a return on their taxes," he told Good Morning Ulster.

If Northern Ireland's funding arrangement was equal to Wales', "we would be able to meet the vast majority of our pressures", he added.

O'Dowd said the biggest priority now, "in the absence of a budget", was to find a way to give public sector workers a pay increase.

"First we have to find a technical mechanism… then we have to find a quantum of funding to pay our public sector workers."

'Time for Stormont to come up with plan'

Also speaking on Good Morning Ulster, Ann Watt, from the public policy think tank Pivotal, said Northern Ireland's negotiating strategy had so far been successful, forcing two increased offers from the British government.

"They've moved a lot," she said.

She said the UK government had "moved significantly", and now Stormont needed to "put together a plan of what are they going to do".

Watt explained how Sir Chris's offer would be spent, and outlined that one of Northern Ireland's biggest costs was "far higher employment in the public sector than elsewhere in the UK".

"That £1.5bn is over three years, so around £525m per year... and that is mostly spent on day-to-day costs of running public services."

This, she said, meant "delivering health, education, infrastructure, the environment and so on".

Around £450m would be spent for that primary purpose, said Watt, with the remainder used for modernising public services, building social housing, and tackling benefits fraud.

"But that money is well, well short of what the executive says it needs," said Watt.