Righteous Targets for Violence (with Hugo Rifkind)

Hugo Rifkind joins Armando for a chat about the religious language in politics.

After a quick detour round the far side of the moon, we find out Trump's favourite bible passage (sort of), why the Pope has rebuked Pete Hegseth, and if invoking a higher power can be used to dodge accountability.

In the extended version, we also look at how parties in the UK trade in religious language, why how AI is getting hiring humans, and answer the age-old question - which Easter has been best, militarily?

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Sound editing: Chris Maclean

Production Coordinator: Asha Osborne-Grinter & Caroline Barlow

Executive Producer: Pete Strauss

Recorded at The Sound Company

Produced by Gwyn Rhys Davies. A BBC Studios production for Radio 4.