News imageThe Infinite Monkey Cage, Series 34, Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

The Infinite Monkey Cage

Series 34

Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

10 December 2025

43 minutes

Available for over a year

In perhaps the monkiest Infinite Monkey Cage episode there’s ever been, Brian Cox and Robin Ince attempt to uncover the secrets of love, lust and friendship in primates. Swinging by to offer a hand (or tail) are evolutionary psychologist Robin Dunbar, anthropologist Jo Setchell, and comedian Dave Gorman.

Together the panel explores Dunbar’s number in monkeys – the idea that the number of friendships an individual can maintain correlates with brain size – with the very creator of the theory! They ask whether monkeys feel love the way we do, why some species remain strictly monogamous but others don’t, and what we could learn about ourselves through studying them. Robin goes bananas for bonobo fashion, while Dave couldn’t give a monkey’s about finding an aftershave to complement his natural smell.

Series Producer: Mel Brown

Researcher: Alex Rodway

Executive Producer: Alexandra Feachem

A BBC Studios Production