3 July 2025

29 minutes

Available for over a year

The Government was forced into a humiliating climbdown over its controversial benefits bill this week, and any savings the Treasury had hoped to make were wiped out. The politics of this is a subject on its own, but the underlying problem the government was trying to solve, however, remains. David Aaronovitch asks his guests why the cost of disability benefits has ballooned so unexpectedly, who gets them and why and whether the system works for disabled people.

Guests:

Paul Lewis, Presenter Moneybox, BBC Radio 4

Tom Waters, Associate Director, Institute for Fiscal Studies

Louise Murphy, Senior Economist, Resolution Foundation

Ruth Patrick, Professor of Social and Public Policy, University of Glasgow

Presenter: David Aaronovitch

Producers: Caroline Bayley, Kirsteen Knight and Sally Abrahams

Production co-ordinator: Maria Ogundele

Sound engineers: Sarah Hockley and Gareth Jones

Editor: Richard Vadon