Conditionally vague
Hello again Taru!
Thanks for telling us more about your lifelong learning! So, you’re studying Hospitality Management and Tourism at Rovaniemi University of Applied Sciences, as well a taking a teacher training course at Oulu University of Applied Sciences and, as part of your teacher training, learning about e-learning and web-based learning at the University of Jyväskylä? That must keep you pretty busy! Do your twins help out with your five-year old, or are they also busy with their own studies (and social lives)?
Like you, I also seem to be a permanent student, which can be fun but is also often tiring and sometimes a bit frustrating….
I did an internet search for the term diploma disease, which I remember reading about a few years ago when I did a course (!) on the economics of education: private and public returns on investment. I found this interesting webpage from the University of Toronto. I think you’ll find a lot to agree with here:
History of education: 1976 Ronald Dore publishes Diploma Disease in response to qualification escalation
In your discussion of the benefits and challenges of lifelong learning you use the following sentence (and I’m going to make two language points based on what you have written here):
What would happen if every person who is able to read and write would join to every possible learning community and become a profession what ever.
I’m going to start by re-writing your sentences as follows, can you see the difference?
What would happen if every person who is able to read and write joined every possible learning community and became a professional whatever?
I'm sure you can see that the main change I have made is to the structure of the first part of your sentence. You need a second conditional in the first part because you are talking about something which could happen in the future, but probably won’t. I have deleted the second would and changed the two verbs that follow (joined and became) into the past simple tense.
So, the second conditional is my first language point! There is already quite a lot of information on the BBC LE site about second conditionals, so I’m not going to repeat it here. Try these two links for useful tips and practice exercises:
BBC LE grammar challenge: second conditional
BBC LE Flatmates: second conditional
Onto my second language point now, which is about vague* language. I have briefly mentioned vague language before, in reference to a video that my daughter, Clara, made about our garden. When Clara couldn’t remember the name of a flower in the garden, she said, “It’s a kind of….”. You are using vague language very effectively at the end of the sentence about ‘learning communities’ when you say, “a professional whatever”. Here, I think you are using whatever not because you don’t know the names of any professions, but because you mean any or all professions. Whatever in this sense means anything. By saying a professional whatever, you are able to be general, by being vague. Similar phrases are:
I’ll do whatever
You could write about whatever
I don’t mind, whatever
There is a lot more useful information about vague language here:
BBC LE Flatmates: vague language
OK, so those are my two language points: the second conditional and vague language.
Thanks for the information about your 90-minute night/dawn, it sounds amazing. I look forward to hearing about your hobbies soon!
My next post is my last one and there will be a new teacher blogger next week. I’m planning to do one final video, probably of me saying goodbye and thank you….
Until then!
Rachel
*vague = not specific, unclear
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Comments on the comments:
Sita Ram Rai (from Nepal), Asma (from UAE), Young (from South Korea), Jeronimo from (Valencia, Spain) – thank you for your comments!
Vladimir (from Ukraine) – glad you liked the accents website. Go on, give YouTube a try!
Marianna (from Slovakia) – lots of strong coffee (and quite a lot of chocolate) keeps me going.
Hyoshil (from the UK) – I agree that accents are very interesting and that we should be proud of the one(s) we have…..after all, even the Queen has an accent….
Comments
Dear Rachel, thank you of your comments and I really like a lot of your page of Ronald Dore. It is amaising that he has seen those things already 30 years ago.
Dear Rachel! The weekend is approaching very fast and I am gona be very busy doing things which have been scheduled. So I have decided to write my proper farewell comment on your blog today just in case I might not have a chance to do it properly. It’s been a fantastic time, and time has flown like an arrow when I specially have had a whale of a time to lean English from you. I really wish you could be with us a bit longer but it will be too greedy of me for it. Your varieties of entries like making videos for us, giving away the useful websites and the wonderful grammar points are the bee’s knee for me. The most I like about your time with us is I have been able to correspond with you through the comments, which it didn’t happen very often last time when you were the teacher in 2006. I take my hat off to you because you are a great teacher and a woman who has multitasked, and brought up two children so well. I wish life treated you and your family sweetly and the very best of luck. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!xx
Hello Rachel. I’d like to make an effort to translate correctly Russian expression about permanent education: “Do live 100 years, be thirsty for knowledge as long as you live”. That’s true, new times require new skills. As for second conditional, it’s not the easiest topic for me either. Thanks to your guidance I’m gonna polish it one more time.
Rachel Hi, If you are interested in learning and takes it as a hobby, lifelong learning keeps you occupy and stress free. You are not forced to study, so there is no tension: and you can avail the benefits of it. Infact we should name it as a 'hobby'. Best regards. Asma
Dear Rachel! Yesterday, it went a documentary here on Tv about the creator of the WWWeb Tim Bernes-Lee (by the way my hut off to such a Brain and Grand personage - suprisingly the man is almost as young as I am!). He told that the people did not become cleverer using the net they have only become better connected. The BBC LE have been working on maybe breaking his opinion! Years ago I decided I didn´t want to continue in a scientific field but to work in a common praxis. I liked my work a lot. I always felt to use what is called in English a horse-sense have been guided successfuly our ancestors to survive. I am hoping the techno-virtual world we are spreading widely around us will give a chance to be prosperous to human and caring enough to other living species and our Earth equaly! These months with you I personaly had to deal with some not good results from those new technologies about my body status which gave me feel a definite time one has. You, Rachel have been working hard to reveal what the proper learning language means as well as to do the work one loves. It was a honest and pleasure for me to communicate with you and getting to know you as the great personality. All the best!
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