Hello again from Pompey!
Wow! What a response! You are all such prolific writers, it’s unbelievable! I received a massive 44 replies to my first posting and I shall do my very best to reply to as many of you as possible. However, I must also actually write some content of my own so this second posting looks to be a very long one!
Firstly, I’d like to apologise for the error I made in replying to Lukasz’s first blog (his first draft), which was sent to me personally, but not posted online. So, rather stupidly, I responded to it, unaware that no-one else would have read it! I sincerely apologise for the confusion - perhaps Lukasz might allow me to include part of his first draft next time so that others may understand which errors I had corrected? As you can see, it is my first attempt at teacher-blogging, so I hope you’ll be patient with me!
Secondly, let me explain ‘Pompey’ from the title: I’m not talking about the military and political leader of the late Roman Republic, but the nickname of the city and of Portsmouth F.C. The real meaning of the word Pompey isn’t known, but there are several theories, of which I have a few examples:
1. When the Portuguese took possession of (what was once called) Bombay, they called it Bom Bahia, two words meaning good harbour. When Charles II married Catherine of Braganza, Bom Bahia was given to Charles as a wedding present, but when the Portuguese seamen brought the Princess to Portsmouth to be married, they may have noticed how Bom Bahia and Portsmouth resemble each other and might have called Portsmouth Bom Bahia, which, to English ears would sound like Pompey. Moreover, both Bombay and Portsmouth have good harbours; the two cities are pretty flat (except that Bombay has a bit of high ground between Malabar Point and Mahaluxmi), and both are only a few feet above sea level.
2. Another theory is that Portsmouth F.C was formed from the Royal Artillery team, who were the original Pompeys. At a Queen's Birthday Review the Royal Artillery lined the parade instead of marching past. They were upset about having to do a job which was (in those days) done in Paris by the Fire Brigade (les Pompiers), and the next time the team turned out they were called 'Pompiers' and the name stuck.
3. Portsmouth F.C is nowadays known everywhere as Pompey - the first use of it in a local newspaper is in connection with the Portsmouth football team which was formed in May 1898: "Wilkie, amid tremendous cheering from the Pompey lads, won the toss, and played with the wind in their favour."
(Evening News - December 9th 1899 p.3, col. 6.)
4. There is also a theory which contends that Pompey is of naval origin. It may have been used for Portsmouth long before the existence of Portsmouth F.C. It is possible to trace its origin back to 1797, at the time of the famous Spithead mutiny. Some of the mutinous vessels’ names were: the Terrible, the Glory, the Defiance, and the/La Pompee. Two delegates from each ship assembled on board La Pompee at Portsmouth - and later, two drunken seamen were arrested in London, incapable of saying little else than that they were going to Pompey – so it’s possible that all the mutinous seamen at that time referred to their delegates being at Pompey... and the name stuck.
5. There is also the possibility that an evangelist bishop, who once visited Portsmouth, declared that it was a wicked town, liable to share the fate of the old city of Pompeii.
6. Another theory claims that the name originates in Shakespeare's Anthony and Cleopatra (act 1, scene 4), where a messenger reports to Caesar: "Pompey is strong at sea". Then in scene 2, Anthony says, "Sextus Pompeius hath given the dare to Caesar, and commands the empire of the sea." Portsmouth was the premier naval port, so the derivation is clear.
7. A final possibility is that Pompey is the result of the inarticulate pronunciation of inebriated sailors who were trying to say POrtsMouth POint, the spot where they changed from ship to shore.
As you can see, there is plenty of speculation and no-one seems to agree on its exact origins. Even when I asked true Pompeians where their nickname came from, they didn’t know! Anyway, after all that, all YOU need to know is that on May 17th this year Pompey won the F.A Cup, the first time in 69 years! And I can tell you, moving to Portsmouth on that day was something else! People were running around on the streets, cheering and laughing, driving around the city, blaring their horns and waving little blue and white flags. The atmosphere was one of fun, happiness and amazement.
Anyway, I digress. In response to Lukasz, I’d like to say how well you write and how enjoyable it was for me to read your blog. Well, I should say blogs, as you have already written two! I read with much interest your description of Poland before and after it opened up to the rest of Europe (and the world). When I lived there in 1996-7, I saw first-hand how people lived and noticed how they dressed and behaved. It seemed to me people were quite well educated in the sense that most valued a good education and indeed, in my classes many students would say to me that a good education was something of an opportunity, not to be squandered. They had a thirst for knowledge and asked me many questions about what it was like in the ‘West’.
I also noticed how women loved to dye their hair! Almost every woman I came across had dyed it bright red or jet black or platinum blond! Have you ever noticed that in Poland? Are the women still dying their hair? Perhaps it was a sign of rebellion or wealth? I don’t know but I remember how it struck me then.
It also struck me how many people lived in huge grey tower blocks – I myself lived in one: on the outside it looked downright ugly, but on the inside it was a little haven, a cocoon where I could escape the harsh winter. In fact the walls had been wood-panelled and it looked a bit like a mountain log cabin! It was very odd indeed, but incredibly warm, welcoming and comfortable, much like the people (albeit not the comfortable bit!).
Your early schooling in the Netherlands reminds me of what I went through as a kid moving to France. I didn’t understand much of what was going on around me in class most of the time. In fact, it’s still happening to me now in my German class!
You say the Poles seem to be too concerned with acquiring wealth and goods, etc. I think the Brits can be a bit like that too, in fact, we have a phrase for that: “Keeping up with the Jones’”. The Jones are the neighbours, so if the neighbours have a nice new car, then we must have one too. If they have a new extension put on the side of their house, then we need to build one, too.
OK, let’s look at some of your errors and I’m going to be very picky as your English is already very good.
1) ...and some of it with my jaw dropped... A good try (and very flattering!), but the correct way to say this is “and for some of it, my jaw dropped” or “and some of it with my jaw wide open”.
2) For the enlightenment of some of our readers out there, the IB is the International Baccalaureate, a (rather difficult) end of high/secondary school exam.
3) ...my teacher got amazed at me... You can be amazed, but not get amazed, so the correct sentence is: (I’ll let you correct it yourself!)
4) ...Very strenuous these two were... I like the use of strenuous here, however, the word order sounds a bit odd. You could say it like this but when writing, it would be best to write it in this order “These two years were very strenuous”.
5) ...not part of the EU then... I know there’s only one EU, so it sounds strange to have to define it with a definite article, but we also say the United States, the Russian Federation and the UK.
6) ...these were a fine 7 years... You need to show how these years were fine, just as you would say “a dreadful 7 years”.
7) ...a chance to visit UK... Can you correct this yourself?
8) ...I then thought I needed to develop... Not the same as: I then thought, “I need to develop”.
9) ...to think about what I want to do... We think about or of something.
10) ...I never took/sat any English exams... We take or sit exams, never do them, which, I’m sure you’ll agree, is very strange indeed!
11) ...introduced a market economy... You need to add the indefinite article here, because you’re describing a type of economy.
12) Enough of the pathos... We say we have enough of something: “Oh, I’ve had enough of these German lessons!”
13) ...of the European Union... Another definite article error. Check out the link (on the side of this blog) to an exercise on articles.
14) I’d love to go one day... You want to go to Spain, not come. You can only come back once you have been there.
15) ...it goes in line with... We either say “it is in line with something” or “goes hand in hand with something” – you probably got the two mixed up somewhere along the line!
16) ...working for a software company... We don’t know which one you worked for, so use the indefinite article here.
17) ...how you’ve managed to have friends... We say “to become friends” but we don’t know how you managed to do that.
18) ...he could well be... You need to show the conditional aspect of this assertion.
19) ...as a saint almost... The correct word order is “almost as a saint”
20) ...is underway already... Again, the correct word order is...? I’ll let you try that one!
21) ...we seem to have developed...
Vocabulary:
prolific If you are prolific, you are very productive.
F.C. Football Club.
amid In the middle of something.
won the toss To win the toss of the coin is to see which team starts with the ball in the match.
contends To contend something means to argue or assert a point.
mutiny A mutiny is a rebellion. Ever seen “Mutiny on the Bounty” starring Marlon Brando?
vessels A vessel is a boat or ship but also a container like a bowl or jug.
evangelist Evangelism is the Christian practice of proselytization, which means to inform others about the Kingdom of God. The four Evangelists were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. An evangelist bishop would spread or preach the Christian faith.
liable To be liable for something is to be legally responsible or answerable for something.
derivation From the verb ‘to derive’ + from, which means to originate from, or the source of something.
inarticulate If you’re inarticulate, you’re either tongue-tied or incoherent. In this case, the sailors were inarticulate because they had drunk too much. See below.
inebriated Another word for drunk (and I’m not talking about the past participle of ‘to drink’!).
speculation To speculate about something is to make a guess.
F.A Football Association.
something else Another type of British understatement where you say it was so bad or good or wild that it became something else.
blaring Very loud, raucous. “The radio was blaring away but no-one was listening to it”.
digress To digress is to go off the point or deviate. Lukasz rambles, I digress!
first-hand A personal or direct experience. We also say ‘from the horse’s mouth’!
squandered Misspent or wasted.
it struck me Something suddenly occurred to me.
downright Absolutely or totally.
haven A refuge or safe place.
picky Can mean meticulous (positive meaning) or fussy (negative meaning). You can decide which I have been with poor Lukasz! He is very brave having his errors corrected for the worldwide web to see!
OK, I’m going to have to log off now as it’s getting late and I haven’t even started my German homework! I hope this blog has been helpful and informative. Next time I will respond to the some of the comments that were made. Bye for now!
Comments
Hello again Sophie! What an interesting story you told us today about the possible origins of the word Pompey. By the way Sophie, I´ve seen some films starred by Marlon Brando. However, I´ve never seen Mutiny on the Bounty. Well I´ll put it on my list :-). Anyway, once you´ve mentioned Marlon Brando, it would be nice to hear about your favourites actors/ actress and also about your favourite films. Oh, talking about homework I bid you farewell now. I have two compositions and lots and lots of exercises for doing to hand out to my teacher in my next FCE class. Best wishes and good night, Ana Paula.
Hi Sophie, reading your today's blog, one can easily understand that how the names of inhabitant (places) were devised. One should try to qunch his thrist for knowledge of history from his town. You presented interesting history facts about India's big city ,Bombay. May I request you that while explaining the meaning of difficult words, you may classify them as Informal, v.v.informal etc. so that while memorising vocabulary bloggers may be able to pay big stress on these words. Have a nice day.
Hi Sophie! There is plenty of food for thoughts in your blog. You’ve put on many controversial stories about the same topic. I’m petty sure you do like your city and are acquainted with many cultural venues there is. Apart from that, I’d like to ask you another question. Would you mind to compare cultural traditions of countries you’ve visited? It could be something tiny and almost invisibly for instance.
Hello Sophie and welcome! I've been a bit late in saying my hello to you. It would be interesting knowing more about you and Lukasz over the next month. I have a question regarding the use of 'get', I often find it confusing to use it, as you have also picked up one of Lulasz's mistakes with the use of get+verb. Can you put some light on some of the uses of be+verb and get+verb. Best wishse, Naheed
Really a nice post. You know, I was really wondering how many more stories are there about the origin of the name Pompey apart from the stories that you have mentioned in this post. It seems you have enjoyed every bit of the post when you have written it. I mean the post really shows your interest in history. And I'm really looking forward to know how it would be like, being a teacher as well as a student at the same time. Hope you write about it soon....!
Sophie WOW,one word Pompey you can teach us so much knowlege.You must be a careful and serious person.Your blog is both coherent and beatiful.I enjoy reading it.xxx Janestory
Hello Sophie, I just want to say a warm welcome to you. You want to improve your German skills. What a great task! But you are young and I think, people who already have learnt some languages are able to learn a new one quicklier. I'm over 60 and startet learning English at the evening class. After the border was opened we suddenly could travel all over the world, but we didn't learn English at school. I have to say it is a long and very hard way. I'll try to use the chance and to "blog" regularly. All the best, Felicitas
Dear Sophie! You looks like a good teacher we all are lucky that we are getting very knowledgable and sincere teachers everytime thanx to bbcle team:). Its really impressive that you have such a vast knowledge about everything. I think thats because of the habit of reading books, right?:). Do you like travelling? How many have you visited so far? Tc and bye for now
Hi Sophie I think I will not remember all the possible explanations of the name Pompey for Portsmouth, but to know that the city is also called in that way seems to me like a very useful tip. Perhaps in following posts you can show us more pictures of Pompey. Bye.
Hello Sophie, interesting story about Portsmouth. In my opinion the first one is more likley then the others and is what I like most. Is Portsmouth Football Club your favourite team ? Did you play football? are you sporty ? In my city there are two main football team: Inter and Milan both of them are great team. They won a lot of match and cups in recent years. I'm a supporter of Inter and I have to announce you that on May 18th this year, Inter won the Italian football championship. People were on the streets at the same way in Portsmouth, I think. That's all for me now. Best wishes, Sergio.
Hi Sophie, It was very interesting to read your blog, however I got a bit confused at the origin of the word Pompey. By the way, is it uncommon to see women with dyed hair in Britain? In Argentina most of us have our hair dyed. Redish brown is in fashion now and I like to look well. Luckily, we don't have to "keep up with the Jones" and it's very common to see people who live in a smart building owning different make of cars (from the very old and cheap ones to the latest very expensive). People in Argentina have different levels of income, and it hasn't to do with the degree you have. It has to do with the luck you have to get a job in an important Company or own a Company yourself. Argentina Economy is so unestable that one day you've got everything and the other day you haven't, however you remains living in the same flat. I don't know if my explanation was clear. Looking forward to your next blog. Bye for now, Cris
Hi Sophie! I was amazed by the way you've given us some many explanations of the origins of the name Pompey ( Pompey still reminds me of the old Roman town, Pompei, near Naples which was burned down by a volcano eruption in 79 AD. You can still see the magnificent ruins of this town).I've got a grammar question for you: could you clarify the difference between odd, strange and weird? If you gave also some examples, that would be fantastic. Time to hit the sack looking forward to your next blog Manu
Hi Sophie. I really enjoyed reading your blog and it's amazing how many different origins can one word get over the years, but nobody can know which is the true one. Well, you know not only Poles and Brits are concerned about wealth and think like this. Keeping up with the Jones is a great problem for many people, coz it's hard to live up to what you can see on tv or in a magazine, and you are always left worried or may be unhappy about your current situations. Anyway thanks for you story. Have a good day!
Hi Sophie: Really, it's very sad to live "Keeping up with the Jones". One must be happy with his/her life if it goes right. I think that if you have a job that gives you enough money to survive, you must be happy with sensible things, as family, friends, books, music.. Happiness is to be very quiet with yourself. Bye for know. See you soon. Mercè
Hi Sophie! I couldn't imagine that there were all this kind of explanations to name a place. I really don't know which one i prefer and you? Which one is the best of them for you? Well...have a nice day...bye bye!
Learning English is one the best things I ever did in my life and I feel very proud of it. It has changed my life completely. Now I live in London and I have met people from all over the world, which I couldn't have done if I hadn't learnt English.
Dear Sophie, I've learned a lot of things through your entries.Thank you very much! I really want to write entry on this blog and receive advices from other teachers and students to improve my English.Could you help me the way to sign up, please?
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