Jerry:
I'm Jerry. I'm 15 years old and I'm from London.
Daniella:
I'm Daniella. I'm 14 years old and I'm also from London.
We've come to one of the most popular department stores in the UK, which is super Christmasy this time of year.
Sharon:
I'm Sharon White and I'm chairman of a major department store partnership.
You might already know what sort of job you want to do when you get older.
And I'm going to talk today about the fun of finding creative solutions to some tricky problems.
Jerry:
What should I look for in a job?
Sharon:
Lots of people choose jobs because they think it's the right thing to do or it's going to look good on your CV.
Huge mistake. Whenever I've taken a job because I think it's the right thing to do, I've always regretted it.
So the things that really matter are: are you going to love the people you work with?
Because you spend a lot of time with your colleagues at work and is it going to be fun?
Is the job going to have a really important impact on society or on customers?
Are they going to feel good, are they going to feel positive because of what you do?
Jerry:
What kind of complex problems are you working on at the moment?
Sharon:
I think the big puzzle, as with all retailers at the moment, is how do we make sure that we sell amazing products to our customers when we know our customers are feeling the pinch a bit more?
And so we are looking at different things.
So we've introduced a new brand, still very stylish at a very high quality, but it's a little bit cheaper than some of the other thingsthat we sell.
Daniella:
How do you find creative solutions?
Sharon:
We spend a lot of time asking our customers and what they like about us and what are some of the things they don't like about us.
Don't be afraid to hear their criticism as well as some of the things they love about us.
And so we take all of those ideas and we kind of put them in a big bucket and then we have to think about as a business, what are the things that we're really good at and try to be in that beautiful, sweet spot of doing what, you know, our customers really want.
But also some of the areas that we've been really strong in past.
This is the Christmas Shop welcome.
There are 2000 baubles in the Christmas Shop, which is a lot of baubles.
Daniella:
How do you set up something like the Christmas Shop?
Sharon:
You tell me, what do you think goes into the Christmas Shop?
Daniella:
A lot of love and ideas.
Sharon:
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
Jerry:
I’m kind of wondering how much time do you have to put together something so grand as this?
Sharon:
The Christmas Shop is one of the biggest things we do.
Two thirds of our profits we make in the last eight weeks of the year.
So we start to plan Christmas a year in advance.
So just as everybody is tucking into their turkey and enjoying their Christmas trees and Christmas baubles, we've got lots and lots of very creative, very fantastic partners who are thinking about Christmas for the year ahead.
So what decorations you'd like, what kind of trees you would like, what sort of toys children would like.
So it's it's a huge, huge operation and almost a bit like putting a sort of theatre production on the road.
And and it's also very fun. Lots of hard work, but very fun.
Jerry:
Sharon taught us her way of helping with creative solutions and unexpected problems.
Daniella:
I've learnt today that speaking with customers helps with problem solving in more complex situations.
Chair of a major department store Dame Sharon White talks to two students about how to solve complex problems in business.
Sharon talks about how many people choose a job because it's the right thing to do, instead of thinking about a potential job which they will love and which will make them feel good and positive.
She explains that a lot of retailers are thinking about how to appeal to customers who are feeling the pinch, such as launching new brands which are still of high quality but cheaper.
Sharon talks about how her store takes 80% of their profits in the last eight weeks of the year, and how ideas and products for Christmas take a year in advance to plan.
This short film is from the BBC Teach series Lessons in Business
Teacher Notes
Possible talking points:
Business:
- Sharon works for John Lewis which is a partnership organisation – what are the advantages and disadvantages of partnerships?
- Sharon talks about the power of market research – how has this helped John Lewis?
- Sharon says effective market research is listening to what customers love but also not being afraid to hear criticisms – why is this important?
- John Lewis have faced the challenge of trying to sell ‘amazing products when customers are feeling the pinch’ – how has the economic climate impacted John Lewis?
- How does Sharon identify and fulfil customer needs at John Lewis?
Careers:
- Sharon says any time she has picked a job because it was the ‘right thing to do’ or ‘looked good on my CV’ it hasn’t worked out for. Why?
- Sharon suggests choosing a career based on whether or not the role will be fun, or whether or not you’ll like the people you work with. Would you consider this good advice?
- The Christmas shop takes a lot ‘of love and ideas,' Why are these both important in your chosen career?
- Sharon says it was an important consideration when choosing her role to consider the impact she could have on society or her customers – why can this be a motivating factor in career choice?
Follow on tasks - You could ask students to:
- Englishconduct a class debate on the topic the students in the video discuss: is it more importantto listen or be heard?.
- Careers:think about things you love to and research possible career options. Alternatively, consider the jobs that impact society – do any of these appeal to you?Research and create a career path to either one of these options (job role doing something you love or job role doing something to impact society) that appeals most to you.Students can search for a variety of jobs roles across different sectors on the Bitesize Careers job sectors page
Curriculum Notes
- This short film is to help stimulate discussion on the following topics: careers, business planning.
- It is relevant to subjects such covered in lessons such business or careers.
- Most suited to 14-16-year-old pupils across the UK in developing their understanding of ethics and careers.
- In England, Northern Ireland and Wales it is relevant to GCSE business.
- In Scotland it is linked to National 4 Business studies.

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