Producing and directing a documentary is a bit like conducting an orchestra or being a circus ringmaster, says Martin Small: you don't necessarily do much yourself but "your job is to get the best out of the people you're working with".
Small is currently producing a programme for a forthcoming Money Programme series about manufacturing in Britain. His previous work includes films with Mary Portas for BBC2 and Martin Clunes for ITV, as well as Panorama.
In the film above, he talks about his job - about the difference between producing and directing, how he approaches turning an initial idea into a story, and the importance of structuring a film before a single frame is shot.
In a second film to be posted here shortly, we follow Small into his cutting room as he describes the editing process which transforms his rushes into a finished film.
You can read a fuller transcript of his interview here.
This film is the latest in our 'Inside BBC Journalism' series offering a behind-the-scenes glimpse of what BBC journalists do and how they feel about their work. Previous films in the series have featured:
News presenter Fiona Bruce
User-generated content specialist Trushar Barot
News graphics producer Rob Shergold
Entertainment news presenter Tasmin Lucia Khan
Television news output producer James Cann
Online sports reporter Damian Derrick
Radio breakfast show producer Sophie Woodcock.
