MARCUS GETS A STARRING ROLE (IN HD!)
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Most days you'll find Marcus Whitney in the Being Human make-up truck doing unspeakable things with jelly and fake blood... Disgusting, I know. However, Marcus recently found time to star in his own promo for the BBC HD Channel, letting the cameras inside the truck once again to show how the detail of HD makes his job harder than ever.
Don't miss this and other insightful behind-the-scenes shorts in glorious high definition on the BBC HD channel. And to find out more about why they were made, check out this blog post from Danielle Nagler, the controller of BBC HD.
On another note, are we the only ones who think Marcus should have his own show? Surely not...
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At 16:40 17th Jun 2010, eagle_eyes wrote:Haha brilliant!
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At 16:42 17th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:Blood blood glorious blood
Hey there EE I see you can get clips on your computer now how goes the learning curve towards a weekend vid?
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At 16:46 17th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:here is a question is that guy an extra or a character in the new series and if the neck wound is genuine he is probably dead or will he be a werewolf. or was he a guy brought in for the day?
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At 17:24 17th Jun 2010, shannon wrote:go marcus ! TO THE BEST MAKE-UP ARTIST KNOW TO MAN !!!
and i'm thinking on your track ewan really confused. i hope he is a werewolf maybe bringing it back to the 'hinterland'.
i dont know but nice to see marcus after such a long time :)
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At 17:48 17th Jun 2010, moonwalker58 wrote:Eat your heart out David Tennant - Marcus is the new Ident King!!! I hope that was a real extra, looks like the aftermath of some serious werewolf action.
LOL when I heard they now have a choice of chocolate or mint flavoured fake blood, how can they hope to break AT of his blood licking habit if they add extra flavours :)
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At 17:58 17th Jun 2010, shannon wrote:they cant can they lol, i can just imagine evil mitchell.
'exuse me what flavour are you'. lol.
that is back to the show isnt it. can mitchell just snop drinking after that total break down. or will there be a few munchies along the way of cold turkey. as herick would say 'something to ponder' .
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At 18:19 17th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:is it worrying that all that blood and torn flesh is now just so acceptable - as in - yeh,OK - gashed open neck - it was a werewolf ..
chocolate sounds much better than mint - but I bet you'd get sick of both if you had to keep having it around your mouth all day!
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At 18:23 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:haha, lol @ shannon :D "what falvour are you. :D
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At 18:26 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:one question, who was the yummy werewolf dude???
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At 18:42 17th Jun 2010, piratemoose wrote:Haha, that was great! But who is the new guy? New character, extra, or make-up prop buddy?
And yes BHProd, Marcus should definitely get his own show! ;)
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At 18:43 17th Jun 2010, shannon wrote:no ides not wierd but im guessing an extar or maybe a part in the bh as they ARE filming and i dont see how they would waste that prostetics for that purpose only :)
i would defo prefer mint :) i would imagine choco would get a little bit nasty. but mr. mitchell prefers the original lol :)
or a little scared train passengers on the side mwhahahah yep i have issues
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At 18:46 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:I'd like mint chocolate personally, and yea, kinda hop he is a character, but as for the "waste for extras" , did you not see the train wreck Shannon? ;)
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At 18:50 17th Jun 2010, katieorkt wrote:chocolate flavored blood what next theyll be bringing out lemon flavored blood soon they could actuly do that itd be like a vampire sweet shop (now that would be fun) or a charlie and the chocolate factory itd be mitchell and the blood factory mwah ha ha!as for marcus well done!ill tell my nan to watch out for this vidio on her hd tv (we havent got hd waa)
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At 18:52 17th Jun 2010, anglo wrote:Hah! Good to see Marcus back again in the swing of things and doing the make-up effects proud...loved his stint on the background TV at Saul's house in S2...nice touch.
The wounded man was a bit, er, tasty (move over Mitchell...OK, well, not quite)...was he an extra in the Box Car 20 from last series or is he in S3? Not sure about the bloke who was introducing the whole thing....would have preferred Barry Pilling to do that because he seemed more natural and did a great job with the first blog vid we had but gather he may not be around at the moment.
Thanks for the new vid BH Production Team...good to see you all doing a great job and giving us the info again!!xx
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At 18:53 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:o goodie, someone else shares my hopes about new characters and faces. :) ;)
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At 19:03 17th Jun 2010, eagle_eyes wrote:Well we know we're getting Bob :-D Mr Kai Owen is good enough for me he's amazing! Him and our 4 and hopefully more Daisy too I LOVE her character and Amy's brilliant and of course Herrick back...ooh s'gonna be great!
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At 19:14 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:There was a CSI NY and the victim was called Amy McBride.
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At 19:17 17th Jun 2010, shannon wrote:i didnt mean that not wierd i meant the blog videos they would just use him for the block and i did see the train wrek but they had a purpose. oh and mitchell and the chocolate factory now theres a film lol
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At 19:20 17th Jun 2010, FoxyLorri64 wrote:That was fun to watch, and oh my, those wounds look too real,I was having a bowl of rasperry ice cream at the time! lol
Marcus could give Max Factor a run for his money!I bet the blood taste's delicmo! I spotted a piccy of Mr Aidan Turner in the trailer :O))
All the best in everything Marcus,he is wonderful! He can do my makeup any day! lol
Hugs
Lorraine
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At 19:24 17th Jun 2010, Dorina wrote:A strange little vid this one...Marcus as ever is gracious and informative but agree with anglo about the bloke introducing the piece...come back Mr P!
My guess would be that hunky young man gouged by a werewolf is an extra or an actor who has a wee part in eps 1...more importantly...if he has been attacked by a werewolf in BH3 eps 1 which werewolf attacked him?...Nina? George.?..or another..? eagle eyes ..isn't Kai playing a werewolf?...I think his role is only in first eps or maybe 1 and 2....maybe he attacked the hunk?
Marcus...those scars are soooo realistic....celticgrace is right...we're getting so use to your genius now that we just accept it as the norm ...I've got to say...looking close up at the scars and gore as in this vid ...makes me shudder a little!
And ah...the minty chocolate blood....can't say I would rush to lick it myself...unless it was covering a certain gorgeous Irish vampire in which case I would ....have no difficulty whatsoever ...
Away now on hols for a couple of weeks so goodbye bloggers until July.
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At 19:31 17th Jun 2010, silverdragon wrote:Have a good holiday Dorina - hope you're not going abroad and missing all this good weather.
I must say seeing those wounds close up did actually make me feel quite queasy, glad I don't have HD I think!
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At 19:40 17th Jun 2010, shannon wrote:spotted the picture of AT in the backround blood all over his mush
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At 19:41 17th Jun 2010, anglo wrote:Dorina: Evening hun! Thought of you (and a few others) when they mentioned chocolate and minty stuff...funny that..if you're around this evening we're on Twitter for a while...if not then I'll wish you a lovely holiday now...am sure you'll have a great time!
Lorraine: Evening to you too...there are 2 pics of Mr Turner, one behind the interviewer and one over Marcus's left shoulder...just thought I'd let you know...in case you'd need further inspection...hehe
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At 19:44 17th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:16. eagle_eyes. I think someone said on an earlier blog that Amy was filming in SA for 20 weeks, so can't see her being in BH3 much if at all if that's correct.
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At 19:50 17th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:I was thinking if during filming he could give master classes to the blog
this is how to make a scar from layout to finished product
that would be both bloody and old
monster effects his part in them
Ageing a scar as we saw Herrick woe up with scars round his neck how fast shall they disappear
so many questions
plus EE how far away is a new vid the clip is up and quite a good choice still.
Another weird question which Kate Bush song would work for an Ivan vid?
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At 20:17 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:23, which others?
25, wuthering heights. ;)
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At 20:26 17th Jun 2010, anglo wrote:NWBG: (26) Anyone interested in a certain Irish vampire in relation to certain conversations had on here about chocolate sauce (minty or otherwise), being tied to various chairs, and...and...I must go and lie down...
Nighty-night!x
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At 20:28 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:oh, would that be off twitter, cuz me and Lanill, we're completley innocent... ..
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At 20:44 17th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:well I didnt get involved in those discussions on Twitter - but innocent? I think not!
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At 20:53 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:but you don't get involved, so how would you know. :P ;)
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At 20:56 17th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:OK - Ive followed them! I was just owning up that I wasnt innocent of similar thought processes - as summarised by anglo !
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At 21:12 17th Jun 2010, eagle_eyes wrote:I'm not sure if Kai's playing a werewolf...does "Bob" sound like a good name for a wolf? Lol I think so :-) I don't think he is though but according to Sinead he's going to be very funny in it so that'll be good Kai's hilarious :-)
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At 21:18 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:then I'd be guilty as charged then Celtic, wouldn't I. ;)
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At 21:18 17th Jun 2010, DontGoThroughTheDoor wrote:Well, this made me smile! Thanks BHP!
The make-up is awesome, looks so real, great job.
And hello, rather attractive prop guy. Like the smile even though covered in blood!
The question is, are you someone in the show? I wonder...
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At 21:18 17th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:that's a matter for you and your conscience NWBG! I wouldnt dream ..
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At 22:00 17th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:im giulty ofg the crime, but im not morally guilty. :)
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At 22:07 17th Jun 2010, indil wrote:uhuhuhuh new vid!
gotta wait until it reaches the youtube world *hints hints* but the guy in the chair looks quite.. well slaughtered if not good-looking.. mmh..
that's a good job BHprod.. always proud of you..
I have a little BH sadness moment.. tomorrow I'm going to a huge awesome festival in Germany but I'll miss Florence+TheMachine because I'm coming too late.. I has a sad! ç__ç
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At 22:31 17th Jun 2010, DontGoThroughTheDoor wrote:Oh, lucky you Indil! Shame your missing F+M, supposed to be good. But I'm sure there will be loads of awesome music though! Heard the weather there is looking pretty hot too.
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At 22:40 17th Jun 2010, indil wrote:The festival is awesome, the weather is horrible
south germany (where i live and where the festival is) is soaked in rain and it's cold, very cold.
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At 22:42 17th Jun 2010, DontGoThroughTheDoor wrote:Oh no! My flatmate just came back from visiting home and it was hot. Never mind my rubbish weather stats. Who else is playing?
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At 22:46 17th Jun 2010, indil wrote:Well.. in the north is kinda hot summer weather actually..
The line-up is huge, there are 4 stages in 3 days.. but to sum up it's like: faithless, prodigy. the strokes, ash, zebrahead, katzenjammer kabarett, tegan&sara, la roux, white lies, beatsteaks, porcupine tree, deftones, mando diao, tons of people..
it's called South Side Festival if you want to check it yourself..
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At 22:48 17th Jun 2010, DontGoThroughTheDoor wrote:Yeah, I'm jelous. The line up sounds really good - especially fancy seeing the strokes.
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At 22:49 17th Jun 2010, indil wrote:it'll be tomorrow night, I'm going to have already set up the tent by then and will head right toards the stage..I'll think of you!
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At 23:35 17th Jun 2010, drivingsuzanne wrote:Marcus you're the coolest make up artist! Great to have you back!
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At 08:31 18th Jun 2010, Julia wrote:Great Marcus! I'd like to echo the comments about hoping the "victim" is a new character & also bring back Mr P for the commentary!
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At 10:15 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Barry Pilling has just sent a tweet to say filming behind the scenes of ep2 today and hopefully a vid for the coming weeks. Doesn't sound like a new blog today or perhaps even next week!
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At 10:53 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Sorry Marcus I know this is a new blog but a behind the scenes of actual filming would be very welcome as would something with AT in, to prove he is alive and kicking in Cardiff, and not a cardboard cutout being carried around.
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At 11:22 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:haha DS, well, there is the pic in the background, or is that not proof?
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At 11:39 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Not good enough NWBG. Even a photo from the new filming would do.
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At 12:07 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:fair enough, thats perfectly understandable. and maybe a foto of him with the new werewolf dude??? :D
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At 14:40 18th Jun 2010, Katy_1984 wrote:thanks team this was great
Marcus does need his own show he's amazing
and i hope that dudes in the show he was cute!
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At 17:57 18th Jun 2010, moonwalker58 wrote:As this vid wasn't actually created for this site I think the nice BHProd should let us have 2 blogs in the same week :) so please Mr P put up the next 'Diaries'/behind the scenes one too *** pretty please ***
That guy interviewing Marcus does all these little BBC HD promos, I don't know who he is but he sure is strange LOL
Is there anything planned for Sunday now we have completed series 2? has to be something Ewan can do a quiz for of course!
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At 17:58 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:what about the WHOLE series? that would be cool. :)
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At 18:07 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:52 - so long as it's something I can do a quiz for, if you find something to do a quiz for, and ask.
53 - think about it
pilot - one hour
series 1 - six hours
series 2 - eight hours
total = fifteen hours
So in all that is a brilliant idea.
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At 18:13 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:I agree with moonwalker about the need for a new blog. And with NWBG (50) about the need for AT's presence on set to be confirmed. And as it's ATs birthday! what more excuse do they need. Surely they bought him a cake today? Now that would make a lovely smiley pic?
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At 18:25 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:is it AT's bday? kool. how'd you know? stalker much? ;)
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At 18:51 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Am I invisible cg, see 47. :-(
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At 18:53 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:Who said that?
yes you did kind of leave your self open for that.
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At 18:59 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Yes Ewan
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At 19:01 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:ur not invisi...
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At 19:02 18th Jun 2010, anglo wrote:Celticgrace, NWBG: Evening ladies...hope you're both well..off to watch the footie shortly.
Just to let you know that Aidan's birthday is tomorrow, not today, from what I gather...I guess the blog's going to be hit a few times tomorrow with birthday greetings from us all, and quite right too!
Talking of football, it's Fabio Capello's birthday today or so the TV announcer said on a sports programme...another good reason to have a double celebration tonight, please, team England..xx
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At 19:03 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:56 - his b'day is actually tomorrow - but I thought they might have a little celebration on set today? and the blog team are there today as well?
No not a stalker! - source = imdb - useful info tho pretty sparse on AT - not even any decent photos - but it does pick up latest mag articles etc. He does keep a low profile for an actor!
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At 19:05 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:Have you noticed that blog discussing go around in circles here topic the blog topic the series then for some unknown reason topic AT There is a pattern or reason for this but I just can't pin it down.
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At 19:05 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:DS - apologies - just got that! how could you be invisible!
either Im being extra slow today or Im just trying to read too quickly not sure which.
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At 19:06 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Blimey I really am invisible!!
Bye
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At 19:09 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:61 hi anglo - hope you are well - how come you're supporting England???
yes I knew it was tomorrow - I wouldnt get that wrong! but wanted to get the greetings in before they left for the w/e.n Wonder if anyone will buy him chocolate?
We should try and trend it tomorrow anyway?
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At 19:10 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Phew thank goodness
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At 19:11 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:67 - but it could be quite a useful superpower?
if you could turn it on and off
- Annie got fed up with it.
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At 19:16 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:Interesting thought CG.
Football awaits
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At 19:28 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:hey anglo, lets all hope england win, unless any1 is supporting any other teams, then hope they win. ;)
anyonw have any news on Italy and how they're doing in the World Cup, or if they're even in it???
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At 19:48 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:check out this pic, if the URL works. https://whi.s3.prod.lg1x8.simplecdn.net/images/746405/normal_s2_p_02_large.jpg
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At 19:50 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:71 - you should put a health warning on pix like that!
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At 19:55 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:haha, there was one on the cover of gay times, google image being human
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At 20:03 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:Ive already got it NWBG! another health warning one!
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At 20:13 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:yep, definatly. :D i know, ill post some on my blog, only for those with a strong heart. ;)
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At 20:14 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:mind you, they're already on the Pub wall, somewhere.
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At 20:26 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:theyre all on the aidanturneronline site as well
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At 20:26 18th Jun 2010, anglo wrote:Celticgrace: (66) Evening! Hope ur well too..
Am supporting England cos Ireland aren't in it..France and Thierry Henri made sure of that..Hand of Frog!
Yay to trending Aidan's birthday tomorrow...we'll have a go later in the day when most folks are over their hangovers and settled down for the evening..hope he gets chocs. He seemed to like the ones he was given at the event some of us went to in London in January..he's bound to get some chocs at the next event, too!
NWBG: Evening to you too! No idea what's happening to Italy at all...haven't heard much about them..
Deadlysecret: You're not invisible...I can see you hiding there...so hello to you as well!
Right..its back to the footie in a min, if my blood pressure can bear it..may be back later!x
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At 20:29 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:hmm, that's ok, i guess i'll find out later. :P
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At 20:33 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:just teasing anglo - with Ireland and Scotland not there!
Italy are there - I saw someone describe them as an "old" team but still about the fittest - not sure how they meant that!
not sure I can watch - have they forgotten how to pass?
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At 20:37 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:well hey, we won last time. :P! we're not old.... humph! ;)
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At 20:38 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:Italy play New Zealand (?) on Sunday - having drawn with Paraguay - so they cant be that old or shabby?
see what no blog does!!
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At 20:42 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:i don't even like football! :( its just sad.... lets talk about sommat else???
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At 20:46 18th Jun 2010, Not_Weird_But_Gifted wrote:hey, i seem to remember this one scene between George and Mitchell, and a bunch of Vamps, the Vamps were beating George up in an episode and Mitchell was with them, then he stopped them, and i don't remember where about in the BH story it was from, lil help anyone? its just been bugging me for a couple of days now, so I really need help. :(
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At 20:53 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:series 1 episode 6 opening flashback first meeting
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At 20:57 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:ewan would know the exact ep -it's S1 - near the end - so maybe 5? It's a flashback to their first meeting - it's really good towards the end there as it helps show why George goes for Herrick - "I owe you ". So the beginning of Mitchell and George's story - but the end of Series 1.
it was Seth leading the attack so it might have been just before Lauren kills Seth???
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At 20:57 18th Jun 2010, moonwalker58 wrote:84 NWBG that was a flashback scene from the start of ep5 or 6 of series 1 I think. I am sure Ewan will know exactly!
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At 20:59 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:titles say it's two years earlier. so yes long before Lauren it had been 6 months after George first met Tully on the Scottish hills
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Comment number 89.
At 21:01 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:was wrong - it's right at the beginning of ep6 - close!
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Comment number 90.
At 21:04 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:88 I didnt mean they actually met just before Lauren killed Seth - but that the scene where they met might have been in the ep just before Lauren kills Seth - but that's in ep5.
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At 21:12 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:the scene your thing of would be with Annie in the parlour and George can points out.
"Either this is the right place or they have the worst customer service I've ever seen"
not to sure the quote is 100% accurate but at least 90%
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At 21:16 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:sorry - I think we must be at cross-purposes here?
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At 21:25 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:That is a problem for me speed reading mixed with dyslexia does not make a understandable conversation.
the scene I refereed to is the now infamous Gayest Ninjas in ep 5 but Seth dies not with a bang or whimper but a few minuets later but with a Gah-owww
I think I've got a little lost, back later when I've got my head sorted
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At 21:27 18th Jun 2010, Deadlysecret wrote:78.Anglo. Glad you can see me. AT does seem to like chocs. Have you seen him munching them in the Halloween vid on You Tube?
Need a stiff drink after watching the match.
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At 21:30 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:I may have misled you being too brief - I wasnt trying to locate the parlour scene/Seth dying scene - only trying to place the flashback first meeting scene for NWBG and using Seth's death as a locator - which was wrong anyway!! it doesnt matter - we found the flashback in the right place after all - I didnt remember it as an opening flashback at all. Thought it was more in the middle - might have to watch again now Ive found it - better than watching the footie!
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At 21:40 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:they start off with Seth playing with spilled salt and being not best pleased by a discussion on 10 years younger, then on smelling George following him outside calling him Digby.
And stealing his glasses.
Then Mitchell appears and saves George when Turlow - The big vampire admits to leaving a business card with the owner of the cafe.
they were 300 for a fiver after all.
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At 21:43 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:George was very wimpy? and Mitchell was his meanest yet in that series? - more S2 moody??
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At 21:47 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:not so much moody as dissatisfied with how his life was going and a bit disgusted with the behaviour of other vampires it was a different type of moody in s2
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At 21:49 18th Jun 2010, celticgrace wrote:he managed to look disgusted with himself, the vamps - but also George? wonder where/how he was living then and was he on the wagon?
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At 21:54 18th Jun 2010, ewan wrote:I always see it as he was limiting how much he ate as Wilson the late unlamented Drunks and Druggies or as Seth put it Tramps or people who fall asleep on the night bus not killing but feeding and keeping it at a safe level
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