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Mama Toro
Mama Toro

Black-on-black slavery

If Africans themselves sold other Africans into slavery, how has this affected today's Caribbeans, the descendants of those slaves? It’s an issue which has divided the two groups for hundreds of years but is being tackled here in Manchester.

It’s an uncomfortable truth for many black people: according to the history books, West Africans played a key role in the slave trade, leading white slave traders to other African tribes in exchange for goods like textiles, mirrors and even seashells.

Or did they? What is the real truth of Africa and slavery?

Illustration of slaves in yokes
Captured: Africans sold slaves

The issue still divides people from the Caribbean and present day Africa. Many Caribbeans accuse people from countries like Nigeria and Ghana as acting in a ‘superior’ way; likewise, some West Africans view people from the West Indies as lazy or weak. And it all dates back to the slave issue.

Freedom for All

Mama Toro is a leading grassroots African female artist who’s been involved in promoting African women's arts, culture and heritage across Europe.

Originally from the Yoruba tribe in Nigeria, she says the widely-held view that Africans sold other Africans into slavery doesn’t tell the whole story.

“We were painted as if we sold our people. If we sold our people, and we were so cruel, why do we welcome people each time, even the slaves that went away?”

Mama Toro is currently working on Freedom For All, a project which hopes to tell the true story of slavery to Manchester schoolchildren in an effort to bring the two communities together.

“Let us tell our side of the story so there will not be conflict between the Africans from Africa and the Africans who come from the Caribbean. Because, each time the Caribbeans say: 'You sold us.' I say: ‘That is the story that you are told. Have you heard the story from us? No.’

Freedom for All – a project developing educational resources to tell the African side of the story – starts Oct/November 2007 and will run for three years.

last updated: 11/07/08
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The original black-on-black crime? Caribbean or African: what's your view on the slave issue?
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mick
it still goes on maybe in a different way but black people still use each other and kill each other for goods and power.

Johan
All nations and every continent have somehwere in the past been subject to enslavement or practiced slavery. Slavery has not been invented by the white man with the black man as the only target of slavery. Look at the well known history of the Bible. God's own people, the Jews were enslaved by the Egyptians. Let's get real and stop the blame game by wanting everybody else to repent of slavery slavery as if some of the black races have never ever practiced slavery themselves. GET ON WITH LIFE!

Carla Smith
I have known this for a long time and it annoys me when black people go on and on about white people getting rich from the slave trade when countless numbers of black people were also getting rich back in Africa. Coming from Liverpool I hear about the slave trade constantly and I get a little fed up when black people choose to wipe this fact from history so that they may continue being victims of the white man.

lidia
i think the carribean people need to know were they come from

Emeka Eze
It is not at all plausible for the history of slavery to be re-written. All I hear people talk about is the fact that Africans sold their people into slavery. That is not entirely true. For so many years before the advent of cross sahara trade, there were usually tribal conflicts which ended up in wars. Captives from these wars are then held as prisoners. What the Western slave traders did was exploit the situation by enticing the Africans with various goods, but mainly firearms as this represented superiority over a rival tribe. This is the main reason for the globalisation of the evil trade to a scale which has never been seen before.

Ian Beve
Slavery happened and this is British history because this is how the British industry has built its empire on the backs of slaves. But yet African and Caribbean people must forget about it because you have wiped us out of the history in this country and do not what to recognise and commemorate 200 years of your own history whether good or bad. Must African /Caribbean people cannot trace back they ancestors because it spots at a slave master/who’s descendants are living in stately home and enjoying the fruits of slavery. You commemorate the wars/Jews every year etc, but we must just be told to forget, why are we still looked upon as not human. Through slavery the white man has wiped away any trace of our history in UK.

Esther Beveney
Can we start with not labelling ourselves as black on black crime etc because white people have white on white crime, but they are not labelled in this manner. We have divides in our communities which we recognise and acknowledge. It makes us sound sense less and that these crimes are happening for no reason, but they are reason. As Afican's and Afican/Caribbeans the story need to be told as it is so that are children can understand who they are and not just a colour black and it mean nothing if you use it in the contents of Black 0n Black - in Ireland they have being white on white crime but they explain the difference in the communities history and how this has come about, they don't just call it white on white crime what does that mean nothing to us or our children. I am encourage at the same time to see the work you are doing - thank you

paul murray
i cant believe africans are trying to dilute their part in the black slave trade,all this will achieve is more anti-white sentiment.why is there never other slave trades mentioned ie children forced down coal pits living in semi-stavation .this is a backward move based on selfpity.

Dave Pollard
The Romans did it for hundreds if not thousands of years, capturing people and enslaving them, so why should African tribes be any different? There is no doubt in my mind that slavery , in one form or another, has been practised in Africa for thousands of years before the `white man` came along. Two wrongs don`t make a right, but I do think all this `breast beating` about the evil slave trade needs to be put into perspective.

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