Shereen: Extended Interview with Camila Batmanghelidjh

You'll have seen her on Question Time or Newsnight, she was all over the news bulletins after the riots, and you'll instantly recognise her distinctive look: bright ethnic clothes, colourful turbans. I'm talking of course about Camila Batmanghelidjh, the woman who founded Kids Company, the charity which looks after the hardest to reach of London's inner city youngsters.

When I spoke to her this week she told me she wasn't surprised the riots had happened. She and her fellow workers at street level had watched things building up for some time. What she says about how to deal with those involved in the riots won't be popular with many people. It's love, she says they need. She's had a remarkable success rate in turning these kids' lives around using just that. Of the thousands of kids under her wing only two got caught up in the riots, and while they too were angry, they didn't smash and loot because they had university places to look forward to. Camila's own story is pretty remarkable too. I urge you to listen to the longer version too.

This week my studio guests couldn't agree on anything: from whether Steve Jobs is a genius to whether Jacqui Smith was unfairly pilloried for hiring ex-cons to paint her house. Paul McNamee, Kirsty Scott, and Ewan Crawford were still arguing when we came off air. The only thing everyone could agree on was that the Edinburgh Trams are a shambles. Well, yeah.