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| Saturday, 13 July, 2002, 09:19 GMT 10:19 UK How good was India's win? ![]() India win the NatWest Series final with a thrilling last-gasp victory over England at Lord's. Congratulate India on their remarkable comeback, and tell us what you thought of the final. Superb play from India's two youngest batsmen gave the tourists a remarkable victory as they successfully overhauled the second highest total in one-day international history at Lord's. England scored 325 - their fourth highest score ever - but it wasn't enough as Yuvraj Singh (69) and Mohammad Kaif (87 not out) turned the game on its head with a defiant stand of 121. BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew described the match as the greatest he'd ever seen, but where would you rank it among great games gone by? send us your verdict on the NatWest Series final. This debate is now closed. A selection of your e-mails appear below. First, I would like to congratulate both teams for displaying some brilliant cricket. All due credit to England, for they definitely have a much improved side. But India did edge out the match with some sensational stroke play from our youngsters. It makes me proud to see our team triumph once again at Lords. I have a gut feeling that this is the start of an Indian cricket dynasty. The depth of Indian talent is unreal, and it is going to start showing soon.
England are a very good team, but as one message below says, they lack the killer instinct to finish out matches. There were some good performances from Ronnie Irani and Alex Tudor, so I think England have a very good chance to reach the final four of the World Cup. A fantastic match, and well played by virtually everyone on the field. We used to say it doesn't matter whether you win or lose as long as you play well and in the spirit of the game. Such sentiments haven't applied lately, but Saturday's match between two young teams showed that this still remains the essence of cricket. In essence, both teams played out of their skins, and neither deserved to lose. As the match progressed to its unexpected conclusion, it was my hope that the last wicket would fall with the scores level. A tie would have been a fitting end to the drama that preceded it. The next occasion when the two teams meet in a one day match will be at Colombo on 22nd September and then again in February 2003, when the serious business starts! And now for the Tests. What drama can we expect in the absence of Yuvraj and Kaif? Surely, they must be retained!
It was a terrific game played by both teams, but I notice a chorus of criticism focused on Tendulkar. His worth in the team is substantial even when he scores little, and his presence at number four allows Ganguly and Sehwag to go for it knowing that the little master can cover for them if they fail. And in this series alone he scored two centuries in the round robin phase, in which Kaif was notably quiet. It's a team game, and a sign of a great team is for all players to pitch in when needed - no one will score runs in every game! It was good see the newcomers justify their selection. Their consistent performances have lessened the pressure on other senior players, and added more solidity to our batting. Indian players have always been criticized for playing as individuals, but all that can now be changed. Players like Kaif, Yuvraj, and Mongia were moulded in India's A team and then elevated in the Test and one-day sides. This is a sound policy and will encourage the young players to work harder to earn their place.
A very big response to a very big match by two very young men. It would have been a shame if India had lost the match, especially when England's score of 325 contained a very unconvincing century by Hussain. India should sincerely think about not playing Tendulkar in finals. He not only fails to contribute personally, the fall of his wicket also puts extra pressure on those that follow him in the batting. Hats off to Kaif and Yuvraj, who kept their cool under pressure. These players have shown more maturity than most of the senior players in the side, and it's time the seniors learn something from them. What a fantastic day for cricket! Congratulations to both India and England for producing a thrilling match, and best wishes to both teams! Expect the same to happen in Test series too! Fantastic! That's how I describe this win and that's how I describe Kaif and Yuraj! The youngsters won the World Cup for under-19s and they are capable of doing the same for seniors.
Dravid's keeping was well below his own standards, but because we won, nobody is talking about it. Something to think about. In general the team composition is very good, and they should continue to do well in the coming months. Well done India! A superb game of cricket! But England threw it away after taking five Indian wickets. That killer instinct that is lacking in all our sports teams rears its head again. England must learn to go for the kill if they want to be winning anything. It was a splendid performance from the Indian youngsters. Winning at Lord's and chasing such a huge score is stunning. All Indians are now confident of winning the World Cup. Wonderful, Sensational and simply great. No words can describe the feeling of having won a match under such intense pressure and with such inexperience. I am sure these two will play for India for a long time to come and will do wonders for Indian Cricket in the future too. When Tendulkar was out I nearly switched off the TV - but, boy, was I glad I didn't! What a fantastic finish to a thrilling match! I love watching Sachin, but he lets himself and his myriad of fans down on the big occasion. I believe he should open the batting every time.
That was one of the best matches in history - 651 runs scored in one day! What a performance by the youngsters. Kaif came in with the score at 146-5, with a run rate of 6.9 required. They had nothing to lose and showed tremendous courage, especially when two blatant wides were not called in the closing stages. These innings may be career-defining moments for them! Credit must also go to England, who had two centurions in a one day match for the first time in 17 years, but to no avail. Shame there had to be a losing team, but if you look at the series overall, India played the better cricket. Well done boys - and let's hope this is the start of something big! I've noticed a lack of English supporters here, but I'd just like to congratulate India for what was a fantastic run chase. The atmosphere they bring, particularly to the Bristol game I saw, is brilliant - as is their team. Nas and Tresco, despite the captain's theatrics, showed what England supporters can be proud of, but let's get some more experience under the belt and see what we can do later in the year. Oh, and goodbye Thorpe, you will be missed.
Sachin may be technically strong, but he fails when India need runs. Ganguly and Sehwag laid the foundations for victory before the middle order collapsed. Brave young men Yuvaraj and Kaif completed the game in style. Do Sachin and Dravid deserve a place in limited overs cricket? Congratulations to the young Kaif and Yuvraj. What a win by India - I hope this win will boost their chances in the World Cup. The best game of one-day cricket I've ever seen! It had it all - two batting teams going hell for leather, bowlers quaking in their boots, tension and drama. I hope the World Cup is half as good at this. Maybe now someone can stand up to the mighty Aussies! An absolute epic to say the least. England should also be praised for playing their part in making this a memorable final. However, a few points to be noted here. The criticism of Sachin for having failed in big matches is unfair. Who can forget his contributions when in tandem with Ganguly he has won match after match for India? His very presence on the field is worth a few runs.
Ganguly's critics had better shut up now as well. He is a true leader, and has supported the youngsters in the team to the hilt. Now the Indians know how to hit back, and they are a mentally stronger team under Ganguly and Wright's tutelage. The captain has taught everybody to stand up and be counted. With the encouragement provided by skipper Ganguly the young brigade rose to the occasion and did us Indians proud at the same venue where the legendry Kapil Dev and his band had won us the World Cup way back in 1983. Keep it up boys and continue the good work. We are proud of you. A marvellous game of cricket that increased the adrenaline of millions of cricket fans all around the world. At last, India have some good young blooming stars who play for the country rather than records. Both teams did well throughout the series, and the winner is none other than game of cricket.
This victory is far more important that the victory achieved in 1983 as it launches India's younger generation onto the centre stage. One can clearly see the future of Indian cricket emerging with players like Sehwag, Ashish Nehra, Zaheer Khan, Yuvraj Singh and Mohammed Kaif establishing their credentials in this tournament. The match was pure brilliance. To chase such a mammoth total was always going to be difficult and when it all seemed doom and gloom the youngster's Kaif and Yuvraj played like mature batsmen. The whole Natwest series has been amazing, and the Indian supporters here in the UK came out in droves to support our team - well done! Sensational! But let's not get carried away, as England and Sri Lanka are two of the weakest sides in the world. Tendulkar has single-handedly won matches for India in the past, and people should remember that before they come to the conclusion that he cannot play under pressure.
It is great to see that India have finally broken out of the 'Sachin syndrome', but let's not be critical of the master and accuse him of not winning enough matches for India. His average of 60.97 with 25 Centuries and 32 fifties in the games India have won since he has been playing should be proof enough. A great morale boosting win for India. One would have expected them to fold after the opposition scored 325, but the youngsters in the team showed tremendous guts to pull off this incredible win. If the bowling improves a bit, India can be very competitive in the World Cup. India are not known for chasing a mammoth total, but they proved they can do that at Lord's. It is interesting to note Tendulkar's failure here. To me, he is a batsman who can score big runs only in a tension-free atmosphere. There aren't enough words to describe the way the Indians played out there at Lord's. Sensational? Historic? Breathtaking? Everything seems lame. Hats off to a side that never once "whined" about the blatantly biased match schedule, but just went out there and played their hearts out!
Has Sachin Tendulkar made a significant contribution in matches when it matters? He can sleep with his 33 centuries and probably dream to make 100 centuries, but who cares? He is still a failure because he can not win crucial match for India. It is players like Kaif, Uuvraj, Sehwag and Ganguly who are brave, and play when it matters. Sachin should not be included if India reach final from now onwards, because there is a strong probability that he will fail. India played amazingly well, and I think Kaif will be a great asset to them for the upcoming World Cup. Way to go India. England just had a bad day - well, a half a bad day. Doing this without Tendulkar scoring well and outside India should send out an indication of what this team is capable of. The bowling could be better though. India have finally shown England who is the better team and why. And what's with Nasser Hussain showing off to the press? Doesn't he realise that he lost the match for England by batting so slowly? That was a great match. A good fight back from Yuvraj and Kaif, though Harbajhan and Kumble nearly spoilt it for India. A great fight back, which goes to prove India don't need Tendulkar to win.
An amazing victory for India, and a great morale booster that will no doubt encourage them to do well in the coming days and the World Cup. What is even more amazing is that the tail that won the match for India when half of the top order had failed! That was the most satisfying victory for India in a long time. Great job Kaif and Singh - we don't have to solely depend on Tendulkar for a win now. It's good for the game, and I am happy that India won. They have young, talented players, and now they don't have to rely on Tendulkar and Dravid. Congratulations! The Indian selectors should keep both Kaif and Yuvraj for the Test matches in England to convey their thanks to them. It's not about Tendulkar and Dravid anymore. The young players have shown the talent found in India. If only the selectors kept their eyes and minds open, we could have had a team who would be the favourites in each and every World Cup. Congratulations to the young Kaif and Yuvraj. What a win by India - I hope this win will boost their chances in the World Cup. What a match! A perfect batting display from England, and full marks to Kaif and Yuvaraj for their wonderful batting display in the midst of such tension. |
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