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    Get Involved - 'The anti-captain'published at 09:57 BST

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    Have always defended Bruno when rival fans complain about his whining during games etc, but as a United fan I'm angry at him now. He is part of the problem. Carrick is hamstrung by poor recruitment and players with terrible attitudes.

    Richard, Belfast

    Fernandes is the anti-captain. Moody, petulant, uncontrolled emotions. If I was a coach of a kids team and I was training my captain, I'd say watch Fernandes he's the total opposite of what a captain should do. Being the best player in a team doesn't make you a leader.

    Thomas, Manchester

    How dare a club captain publicly talk like that. Whatever he thinks he needs to be professional and set a good example. Time for him to be dropped and sold in January.

    David, Northamptonshire

  2. 'An absolute disgrace'published at 09:51 BST

    Como 4-1 Manchester United

    Bruno FernandesImage source, Getty Images

    Reacting to Bruno Fernandes' comments, CBS Sports, external pundit Jamie Carragher was in shock at what he heard - branding "awful attitude" Fernandes a "disgrace" and declaring his actions as 'not what a Manchester United captain should be'.

    "We said Lisandro Martínez was bang out of order last week for calling out the hierarchy above him. For Bruno Fernandes to do that is a disgrace really," Carragher said.

    "When you think about last season, he got player of the year. That was on the back of Michael Carrick becoming the manager. He wouldn't have got that award without Michael Carrick, because Michael Carrick put him back in his rightful position and he then went on to have a fantastic season because he's a talented footballer.

    "But when you think of him as a footballer, he's a talent, but in terms of attitude and the way he goes about things, it's not right at all.

    "And he's reacted like that because he's been brought off and he's been embarrassed tonight by the manager as he brought him off. And when he talks about pressing, whether it's man to man or zonal, for years, Bruno Fernandes has meant Manchester United can't press because he does things for the crowd.

    "I commentate on games watching Man United and he runs all over the place like a kid in the schoolyard for the supporters. They all think he's working hard - he's not. He's killing the rest of the team doing it.

    "Years ago, there was a captain called Bryan Robson, one of the greatest players to ever play for Man United because he played for the club, he didn't throw the manager or the players under the bus.

    "He kept fighting for Manchester United and watching him throw his arms up every week in a game is an absolute disgrace, calling the manager out considering how he's performed this season on the pitch.

    "Awful attitude and not what a Manchester United captain should be."

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    Get Involved - Get Fernandes gonepublished at 09:48 BST

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    United should have cashed in on Fernandes when they had the offer from Saudi. Get him gone - terrible captain, whiny and not a good leader.

    Ollie, Tewkesbury

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    Get Involved - 'Sacked, suspended or forgiven?'published at 09:45 BST

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    So what happens to Fernandes now? Is he sacked, suspended or forgiven like Martinez?

    Adrian, Somerset

  5. 'There's not any discipline'published at 09:41 BST

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    Julien Laurens
    French football journalist on TNT Sports

    Bruno Fernandes is the captain but he's been far from irreproachable this season in terms of his own level.

    Obviously, this is a dig at the staff, a dig at Michael Carrick.

    Lisandro Martinez going out publicly like he did and then being sanctioned with a fine that is nothing to him, he's earning so much money.

    Now Bruno, six or seven days later, it's not a good look for a club that seems to be in so much disarray that there's not even any discipline because the players feel the freedom to say whatever they want.

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    Get Involved - 'Good player does not equate to a good leader'published at 09:37 BST

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    Bruno being captain and the mantra that Manchester United deserve success just because they have had it before are probably two easy things to change. A good footballer does not equate to a good leader and success is earned in the now, not through past glories. It's gone, move forward.

    Bob, Cumbria

  7. 'He shouldn't be saying these things, it's not going to help'published at 09:33 BST

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    Kasper Schmeichel
    Former Celtic goalkeeper on the Football Daily podcast

    It's a really precarious situation Man United find themselves in now.

    I've been in situations myself, as a player you feel like the management and the club aren't aligned from top to bottom and you feel alone out there. I think that's what Bruno Fernandez is doing, he's reacting to feeling alone out there.

    He was trying to press but there wasn't anyone following him up and his body language wasn't great. But given what's happened he shouldn't be saying these things, it's not going to help.

    You learn that these things are better kept in-house.

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    Get Involved - Was Fernandes right to question Carrick's tactics?published at 09:30 BST

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    You may have spotted that a poll has appeared at the top of this page asking whether you think Bruno Fernandes was right to question Michael Carrick's tactics - if not, give your page a quick refresh.

    Anyway, get your votes in and then hit 'get involved' to send us your reasoning.

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    Get Involved - At least Carrick cares for the clubpublished at 09:24 BST

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    Carrick may not be the one to take us forward. But at least he cares for the club and its fans, and you can see he is hurting. Compare that to the players and owners who show little to no care. Let's not forget how well Como played. Throughly deserved win.

    Ryan, North Wales

  10. 'That's sacrilege - simply unacceptable'published at 09:18 BST

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    Joe Cole
    Former Chelsea and England midfielder on TNT Sports

    Bruno Fernandes is absolutely questioning the tactics and it doesn't matter if he's right to do so. You cannot do that - that's sacrilege.

    I've played for managers I've played for where you don't agree with the tactics and you might say that to your mate or your wife. You don't come out, as captain of the club, and question the manager.

    He doesn't even do it properly. If you're going to do it, come out and and say it with your chest. He's saying it and he probably thinks he's being clever - 'well I didn't really say it, gaffer'.

    You can think the manager has got the tactics wrong, that's fine. Go into his office tomorrow morning and have a conversation but to come out in front of the nation as club captain and question your manager is simply unacceptable.

  11. Postpublished at 09:14 BST

    Hmm. I'd say that an extremely generous interpretation, Christine.

    He also said "it's a decision by the staff not to press man-to-man" and how they helped Como find space and gain confidence.

    That led to him being directly asked if the tactics were wrong and the quote you mentioned. Personally, I don't think there can be too much doubt he was criticising the manager's tactics...

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    Get Involved - Did Fernandes actually criticise management?published at 09:09 BST

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    Bruno said and I quote, "That's on the manager and staff to say, it's not on me to say". He didn't say that's on the manager and staff. You can read into that however you like but those were his words.

    Christine Von Dinther, Nantwich

  13. Recap - Man Utd humiliated, Carrick apologises, Fernandes criticisespublished at 09:05 BST

    Como 4-1 Manchester United

    Some scathing comments there from Samuel, Ben and Pete. And there are plenty more where they came from!

    If you are just joining us, we are just picking through the wreckage of Manchester United's 4-1 Champions League defeat at Como, and the subsequent fallout:

  14. Unlucky 11published at 09:02 BST

    Como 4-1 Manchester United

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport Manchester United reporter in Como

    Michael Carrick very much reminded me of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in the way he went to Manchester United’s fans immediately after the 4-1 defeat at Como, and held his hands up in apology.

    Solskjaer did something similar after the 4-1 loss to Watford in November 2021.

    It is amazing how both situations unravelled so quickly. For Solskjaer, there were 11 games between a home EFL Cup defeat by West Ham and the Watford game, which proved to be his last in charge.

    United played their 11th game of the season last night, a campaign that began with that terrible performance at Hull City.

    There is no doubting the ‘United’ credentials of both men. But in an environment as unforgiving as this, you have to win matches.

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    Get Involved - Worth risking relegation to have a 'proper plan'?published at 08:57 BST

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    The problem is entirely of our own making and keeps coming back to the same things: poor decisions by the board and players not being good enough. Until we start making better decisions at the top things won’t get better. I’d rather risk relegation with youth and a proper plan.

    Samuel, Skipton

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    Get Involved - 'Players have more influence than the manager'published at 08:56 BST

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    Bruno has put the owners in a very tough position here. If they sack Carrick, it pretty much shows players have more influence than the managers at Utd. If Carrick stays, he is going to have a massively fractured dressing room.

    Ben, Sheffield

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    Get Involved - 'The wheels are really coming off now'published at 08:53 BST

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    Culmination last night of a lot of things going wrong, it feels to me the wheels are really coming off now. I feel for Carrick, at the very least you want 90 mins of commitment and effort from the players even if we're not good enough to win.

    Pete, Welshpool

  18. 'It was like men against kids'published at 08:51 BST

    Como 4-1 Manchester United

    Dimitar Berbatov
    Former Tottenham and Manchester United striker on TNT Sports

    After a performance like this, people will probably raise the same questions like every time.

    Are these the players that can compete for United at the highest stage? Is that the right manager? Are we going in the right way?

    Of course, after games like this, everybody will say no. We need more players, we need better players, we need this and that.

    What can you say after a performance like this? When a loss comes like today, it becomes even more difficult to find the argument that everybody was giving their best because, today, I don't think everyone was giving their best.

    It didn't look like that on the pitch. Como were just having fun. It was like watching men against kids.

    Como players celebrateImage source, Getty Images
  19. 'It doesn’t feel Carrick is presiding over a happy group of players'published at 08:47 BST

    Como 4-1 Manchester United

    Simon Stone
    BBC Sport Manchester United reporter in Como

    All eyes on Manchester United this morning.

    Michael Carrick and his players flew back to the North West immediately after their 4-1 Champions League humiliation by Como.

    I can’t imagine the atmosphere was convivial given the performance and skipper Bruno Fernandes’ post-match comments about Carrick’s tactics.

    Carrick is scheduled to hold a news conference tomorrow to look ahead to Sunday’s Premier League game against Bournemouth.

    The key question is whether he will still be in a job after one of the worst performances in United’s entire European history extended the run of games without a win to seven, the worst since they went eight without a win in 2015-16 under Louis van Gaal.

    Darren Fletcher stood in as interim boss for two games following Ruben Amorim’s dismissal in January, assisted by Jonny Evans and Travis Binnion, who are both part of Carrick’s current backroom set up.

    Carrick could continue, of course, but after controversial post-match outbursts from Lisandro Martinez and Bruno Fernandes in the past week, it doesn’t feel he is presiding over a happy group of players.

    Manchester United's starting XI before Wednesday's Champions League defeat at ComoImage source, Getty Images
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    Get Involved - 'A culture where accountability is dodged and blame shifted'published at 08:44 BST

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    Whilst on their own Martinez or Fernandes' comments could be excused (though not great in either case) when looked at together, a week apart, they speak to a culture at Man Utd where accountability is dodged and blame shifted. Seems like a rotten institution to me.

    Sam, Cambridge