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Radio 2,9 mins

Dame Kelly Holmes on "metal fitness"

The Michael Ball Show

Available for over a year

Dame Kelly Holmes talks about the importance of "mental fitness" and how to keep a healthy body and mind. She tells Michael Ball all about her new book Running Life as well as upcoming podcast What Do I Do?

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