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Radio 5 Live,15 Jan 2019,31 mins

Sad Mouse

All Hail Kale

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Tackling depression and anxiety via the gut – the amazing story of how a sad mouse could change the treatment of mental health. And how to keep your own gut as happy as possible. Happiness expert Gretchen Rubin offers tips on how to be happy, even if you’re British. Writer & Presenter: Tim Samuels Executive Producer: Barney Rowntree Producer: Nick Minter Assistant Producer: Sera Baker Researcher: Roser Jorba Soler Mixing & Sound Design: Ali Rezakhani Story Sound Design: James Morgan Original Music: Xavior Roide Series Editor: Gloria Abramoff All Hail Kale is made by Tonic Productions for BBC Sounds.

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