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World Service,22 Aug 2015,40 mins

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Are we too technologically advanced for magic to cast a spell on us, or is there a significant place for the enchantment it can generate? Tim Marlow asks the stage magician Scott Penrose, the fantasy novelist Aliette de Bodard and the experimental psychologist Dr Kevin O’Regan for their thoughts. (Photo: Magic cards. Credit: Shan Pillay)

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