Out of the pulpit and onto the streets

When there's violence on our streets as in recent days, it's not uncommon for the main churches to be asked what they are doing about it.

And perhaps that's a little surprising given we're an increasingly secular society where church-going is in danger of becoming a minority pastime.

So what real influence can the churches bring? Presenter Audrey Carville in conversation with two clerics whose work has often taken them to the front line. Fr Gary Donegan and Presbyterian Minister the very reverend Dr Norman Hamilton.