Thursday 1 April 2010

ALCOHOL THE GATEWAY DRUG TO:

Violence - pregnancy - family angst - social disruption - general crime - physical decline and FIRST USE OF ADDICTIVE DRUGS.

Any nation with a tolerated - even embraced - alcohol-based culture, leaves its citizens open to uninhibited acceptance of whatever drug is offered.

What needs addressing, is HomSap's worldwide - time-immemorial NEED to adjust, or extinguish, the big brain's higher processing. A ripple in Russia is a symptom only. This is (nominally) one for Susan. Mankind has no golden future while he is in thrall to 'substance-induced-nihilism'. There you go Sue.

uk libel laws are a farce. everyone rational thinks so. so why do they stand?

'The BNP has upset the families of some murder victims by using their cases and photos as part of their campaign without consent. Journalist Michelle Gribbon will be bringing us more on that tonight.'

I suppose that this is a marginal improvement in behaviour from the BNP as in Barking I believe Barnbrook cited murders that did not even happen to whip up the naive public - and later claimed that it was due to a combination of church bells and dyslexia.

But it must have been very upsetting for the families and potentially frightening as they would be dealing with an organisation whose supporters are often National Socialists such as the old member Lewington who was jailed on explosives charges. You either do believe their claim that they "are not a Nazi Party" or you don't.

I assume the families have received all due support from the local police.

'David Cameron has said that the businessmen's intervention was an important moment in the election campaign. But just how significant is today's intervention?'

There is an ongoing row I understand as Labour try to insinuate the business people have been conned.

Personally I think this is just froth as you will probably find a large range of opinion and the public could be quite fickle on whether they care about their opinions or not.

However the issue of judgement should Cameron be forced to retreat on the issue on costing grounds could be far more serious and I think that would have a telling effect on the polls.

'Plus Rupert Wingfield Hayes discusses the stark increase in heroin addiction in Russia.'

I assume there is also a corresponding increase in HIV and that the authorities are still in denial on this.

Their recent banning of Mein Kampf to combat the poison of National Socialism (it depicted the Russians as sub-human and the Nazis killed the odd 22 million) means that they are realising that admitting problems does not make them look weak but that they are going to tackle the problems and will find the right tools.

You get the same feeling after the despicable bombing of their metro where talking tough is inevitable but there seems to be a realisation that their tactics have not delivered all that they hoped to date.

I wonder whether the presence of Lebedev at the Independent/Standard will start to see a greater appreciation of Russian political issues and hence will improve relationships still further.

Another string to the Obama "Reset" bow?

1. barriesingleton 'What needs addressing, is HomSap's worldwide - time-immemorial NEED to adjust, or extinguish, the big brain's higher processing. A ripple in Russia is a symptom only. This is (nominally) one for Susan. Mankind has no golden future while he is in thrall to 'substance-induced-nihilism'. There you go Sue.'

Did you know that in the early 1950s two important things were discovered. One were the catecholamines and another was intracranial self-stimulation (in rats initially). By the 70s, scientists became quite intrigued by the fact that if you stuck electrodes in the vicinity of cell bodies or even the pathways using the catecholamines (and even indoleamines), animals would happy work to stimulate these systems. Next interesting thing is that drugs of abuse work on these systems, as does just about everything we like doing. These systems also go a bit wonky in madness and other aberrant behaviours.

This is probably the biggest area of brain research, and has been for decades. It's worth billions to the drugs companies.

These systems come pretty close to the physical basis of the 'soul' if one thinks of the 'soul' as the push-pull system of the body.

So, the problem is, it's inevitable that people will keep shoving stuff in themselves to stimulate these systems. They bungee jump, fall in love, etc for the same 'reason' :-(

In the US there were a few raids recently on christian militia.

I assume that they are different to the far right militia and those such as the American Friends of the BNP who spawned Von Bruun - who did have a previous record for trying to kidnap a Fed Member due to views of a "Jewish hegemony" - who went on to shoot a US security guard at a Holocaust Memorial.

But you get the feeling that they collate figures on extremist crime in a much better way than we do and may therefore prevent incidents caused by various groupings.

But over here Prevent seems to have alienated some Muslims and others like myself have felt that they picked up late on the threat of the far right over here - now included in that strategy.

Yet at the same time I gather in the Independent 'CIA given details of British Muslim students'

'Personal information concerning the private lives of almost 1,000 British Muslim university students is to be shared with US intelligence agencies in the wake of the Detroit bomb scare.

The disclosure has outraged Muslim groups and students who are not involved in extremism but have been targeted by police and now fear that their names will appear on international terrorist watch lists. So far, the homes of more than 50 of the students have been visited by police officers, but nobody has been arrested. The case has raised concerns about how the police use the data of innocent people and calls into question the heavy-handed treatment'.

I am therefore left with the feeling that overall there is still a lack of coherence - probably in the US due to the existence of so many competing intelligence agencies - though this is in the face of an evolving threat.

Its also an issue that if al Qaeda is in retreat in the AfPak arena you would have assumed that whilst they would have successes in trying to recruit home nationals they would also hit banana skins and that the intelligence agencies would be getting a lot of useful information.

As an aside and returning to the "jewish hegemony" mindset is there no authority on the psychological side who could be interviews as to how people come to accept indoctrination into such a ludicrous idea when there is no evidence to support the notion?

Is it a cult like indoctrination that cannot be changed or is it perhaps more of an emotional issue first and an intellectual justification second that only needs to seem coherent in order to persist with the individual?

On people and their beliefs: Some of what people believe is unbelievable because it's false, but as what they believe isn't based on evidence, it isn't changed by evidence either. Such beliefs (or more accurately, their verbal expressions) are in fact irrational, but sadly, that doesn't change anything. In fact, that's why it doesn't change anything. Such behaviours can only be observed, and sometimes contained :-(

I forgot to mention that climate change shows that man impacts on the human environment and that we must be proactive in thinking about our impact.

A lot of the impact is due to overall (not racial) population size.

If I might quote David Attenborough - he says three times the number of people exist as whn he first started to broadcast! Three times!


So none of the immigration spokespeople really tackled the big issue and the need to move from reactive policies due to sudden migrations to the proactive issue of capping and controlling that cap with all of the complex economic, social and religious issues involved.

In fact the Tory Damian Green said it was not for government to determine how many babies people have.

So whose responsibility is it to manage a global issue when we know that another three fold increase would be unsustainable - though I would add the caveat that education is probably the way but incentives and disincentives must exist.

I know this is bitchy but the Tories have seen that the Gordon Brown smile is not exactly a vote winner - hence their adds with a smiling Gordon announcing his achievements.

I witnessed the sour Phil Woollas smile on Channel 4 and whilst I have not seen "Saw IX" and such like it was pretty horrific.

So for the Tories and Lib Dems I would want to see St Blair of Iraq take questions on his old colleagues and lobbyists and also on light touch regulation.

But after that a smiling Gordon n'Phil photoshoot must be worth 2 points on the election run in.

As I am in bitching mood I would also like to see Croquet Prescott, the champion of working people and banks, take answers on AV as that would say much about Labour sincerity.

#6 statist

"Did you know that in the early 1950s two important things were discovered. One were the catecholamines and another was intracranial self-stimulation (in rats initially). By the 70s, scientists became quite intrigued by the fact that if you stuck electrodes in the vicinity of cell bodies or even the pathways using the catecholamines (and even indoleamines), animals would happy work to stimulate these systems. Next interesting thing is that drugs of abuse work on these systems, as does just about everything we like doing. These systems also go a bit wonky in madness and other aberrant behaviours."

Did you know that in the mid-1040's they found out about the Holocaust and the millions that died at the hands of the National Socialists and Hitler. He also left some seventy million dead in Europe and Germenay did not "enjoy" a thousand year Reich but division and rape at the hands of the revenge seeking Russians - who also lost 22 million dead.

Did you know that in 1957 Triple-stranded DNA was also described and today mitochondrial DNA studies have shown that the human race is incredibly closely related and that there are only cosmetic DNA differences between the races by and large - due mainly to cliamte adaptation. Therefore the racial policies of the far right are seen to be nonsense and the acts of Hitler are refuted, if they needed to be, in terms of science and therefore philosophy.

As for aberrant behaviour those that analysed Hitler suspect that his alleged sexual aberrative behaviour with Geli Raubal may well have related to his attitiude to his mother.

Did so many die due to his being beaten by his father and his siblings dying and a corresponding closeness to his mother?

By the way did you get on well with animals in your teens?

the Telegraph.Leaders of Industry, the CBI, the Empire League, the Sun, the Mail...all agree that David Cameron is the man best suited to make us escape from the mire...would that be a return to interest raytes up to fifteen per cent, 4 million on the dole and cash for questions etc., well the guys mentioned screwed the economy, trashed the buiding societies when they made them banks so why should we listen to failed losers....?

In the HuffPost Raymond J. Learsy raises some interesting points that may be as relevant to the UK as we drill for oil in the South Atlantic as it may be for Obama trying to enable offshore drilling and get a climate change bill - though the RNC may be distracted by bondage issues and so on.

'Norway's Oil Trust's stated objective is to contribute and create the greatest public value for Norwegian society from Norway's oil and gas deposits. Profits from the Norway's oil and gas operations accrue to the Norwegian Government's Pension Fund and is invested in conservative bonds and investments.

Were we to have a similar program, the trust could be mandated to direct its revenues toward developing alternative energy programs and to expand mass transportation, thereby becoming a cornerstone for energy independence and combating climate change.'

There is supposed to be a flight from carbon as we approach the projected 2020 carbon shortfall and presumed volatility of supply and price.

Its also clear that the UK is still faffing about with the nuclear option even though the delivery and costs and waste disposal are so unclear.

Therefore using those new revenues - should they emerge as there may be no viable oil reserves there - would seem to be best used to get ourselves a good long term renewable energy infrastructure that hooked into electric cars and therefore a viable charging network - that does not exist even as a plan so far as I know.

how much does it cost to translate the bbc news site into other [non licence fee paying country] languages?

another NN story?

Schoolgirl, six, suffered months of physical and sexual abuse by classmates

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/7544809/Schoolgirl-six-suffered-months-of-physical-and-sexual-abuse-by-classmates.html

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actually why were the kids unsupervised? it doesn't add up the kids could be alone for so long and never in all those months get caught?

official state society is nihilist so no one takes responsibility for the good. they think a bias for the good is 'wrong'. whereas given a choice it is rational to choose that which has more good in it. but this they call 'discrimination'. if there is no discrimination then that is the pig philosophy that leads to a pig society in which there is not much good.

Much that's written to this blog should be read as statements of how the poster understands the world. What's a little odd, is that when others point out errors in those statements, some posters often take offence rather than express gratitude for being corrected. Why it causes offence to some, but is welcomed by others, is worth thinking about. Scientists/engineers look for criticism because they are trying to work out how things are in the world, they are not performing. Performers want praise, because that's what they do, they perform for praise. When the latter get criticism, they don't expect it, and don't know what to do, except improve their performance. Science and pursuit of truth generally on the other hand is allocentric, performance is egocentric. Some can't see the difference. For them its all personal, it's all about them. As in children/adolescents, they have identity issues. Some never grow up.

BS # 1 - On drug addiction, I listened to a conservative politician on the radio telling me that more education and not regulation is needed in relation to alcohol misuse. There was a time I would have nodded in agreement. I'm not so sure now.

The older I get and the more I see the huge problems alcohol causes (for example, the majority of admissions to A&E on some nights of the week are alcohol related), the more I am prepared to contemplate much stricter rules on the advertising, pricing and availability of alcohol. I might lose some of my personal freedom to drink on demand, but looking at the good of the community as a whole, I reckon this is a sacrifice worth making. Many will say that this is nanny statism but I would question this.

I have a relative who was brought up in a fishing village in north-east of Scotalnd. Towards the end of C19/early C20, there was a huge problem with fisherman coming onshore after a week at sea and spending their pay at the pub. The result? Families without money to pay for food, domestic violence etc. Nothing new there. As a result of a temperance movement being formed mainly by the women of the village, all three pubs in the village were shut and the problem subsided. The village still holds an annual temperance march to this day. The village was dry for many years until the local grocer obtained a off-licence in the relatively recent oast despite much local opposition. Was this nanny statism/infringement of liberties or simply a collective decision to do something to benefit the community as a whole? Maybe I need to get my tambourine out and start preaching against the evils of alcohol misuse.

SCHOOL IS NOT WHAT NATURE WOULD DO (#15 link)

Is it the institutional nature of school that makes it harder for a child to report abuse to home?

All parents quickly learn that school and home are two parallel universes. Does that feel conducive to wholeness in the emerging adult?

GO1 # 13 - Where to start with oil funds! The Norwegian's certainly have been much more canny with their exploitation of oil and (mainly) gas reserves. They have done this partly through restricting entry into the Norwegian CS which has been controlled by the Norwegian state oil companies such as Statoil. Compared to the UKCS, it is extremely difficult for non-Norwegian companies to hold licence interests or to win business in the energy service sector. The industry sector is much more regulated and unionised than the UK. Why? Simple. The Norwegians are much more focussed in ensuring that their oil and gas industry benefits Norwegians fisrt and foremost.

One intersting point to note is that the avialability of North Sea oil revenues effectively "hardened" the UK currency from the mid-70s onwards, ie. it helped prevent the wekening of sterling. This had beneficial effects for the City but not for the UK's manufacturing exporters. It might have been different if the revenues had been ring-fenced in a fund.

16 jauntycyclist 'if there is no discrimination then that is the pig philosophy that leads to a pig society in which there is not much good.'

Is that reference to Orwell's Trotskyite critique of Stalinism in Animal Farm (David Cameron is behaving like a classic Trot at present), or is it a reference to the 'song' by Dope? (Presumably it isn't anything to do with pig eugenics?).

Given the talk about immigration and assimilation, here's an interesting perspective on those who have The Right of Return and yet don't act upon it:

'Herzl himself made the statement that, when the Jewish state is set up, if a Jew does not go to live in it he is anti-Semitic because he chooses to live with Gentiles rather than live with Jews which are his real community.'

E.M Wright 1977

It's a thought...

#7 Go1 “…returning to the "jewish hegemony" mindset is there no authority on the psychological side who could be interviews as to how people come to accept indoctrination into such a ludicrous idea when there is no evidence to support the notion?”

I believe it more vital to ask the same question on ‘suicide bombers’ in view of the increase worldwide of those, now including females, who sacrifice their own lives and those of many innocent men, women and children for a notion (promise?) of ‘martyrdom in paradise’.

This growing threat is so real (at least in the minds of countless innocent citizens) that it justifies asking all would-be immigrants to our shores to swear on their own particular ‘bible’ that they reject any belief in such a fantasy. If their belief in their doctrine is so strong then they would surely not be prepared to risk denial. Similarly there could be no valid protest against this increase in security from their spiritual leaders – or from EHRC.


#9 “If I might quote David Attenborough - he says three times the number of people exist as when he first started to broadcast! Three times!”

Aha! You’re beginning to ‘get it’.
It’s 3 times the number when I was born into a different and better England, that’s why many of us (allegedly extreme Right) keep expressing our concerns.

8 17

seems the focus is not news stories but attacking other posters? which is an ego trip? attempt to dominate? harassment? stick to news on a news board. that is the grown up thing to do? otherwise its just trolling?

So ....

The Nu Cons intend to halve the NI rise intended to be introduced by HMG next year ....

(Interestingly they, the Nu Cons, can only halve the increase because - in their own words - they can’t “afford it”! “It” being the other half!)

Assuming that they haven’t changed this plan in the last few hours (Sorry, do they do that type of thing?) it raises a couple of issues ....

Are they intending that the half that wont be applied will be that which is the employer’s responsibility thereby saying that the half that will be due will have to come from the employees?

And ....

Given that they ratio of difference between the remuneration of CEO’s and workers is now in excess of 100 to 1 is anyone foolish enough to believe that the possible monies saved will end up in the pay packets of workers, old or new?

(Just what, exactly, it the pay grade point of those that have signed this letter to the media today? Let me think .... ?

It all sounds like a rewording of the ‘inheritance tax’ policy, i.e. .....

Help those that already have an excess of enough!

(I wonder if we ever see that on a hoarding on the M25?)


Think ....

Just what is the cost - and benefit - of a hip replacement?




From

UPDATE: MORE DETAILS ON TONIGHT'S PROGRAMME:

Quote We'll be joined live in the studio by prominent businesspeople. Unquote



Strangely it doesn’t - also - read ....

We wont be joined live in the studio by unimportant voters.

21..Is that reference to Orwell's Trotskyite critique of Stalinism in Animal Farm..

is that likely? :)

CULTURE IS ALL POWERFUL BUT WHENCE COMES CULTURE? (#18)

A cool collected post Nedafo2.

It seems to me we can be slaves to culture (live within the lie) and do all sorts of indefensible stuff like genital mutilation and killing foreigners - in their own land - because we don't like them (while refusing to send them home to be killed). Or, on a good day, we might 'step outside' and see what idiots we collectively, and individually, are. There is a great temptation to look to more structured control (enforced from outside or induced within - still from outside) and many think the only alternative, after that, is anarchy. I still think that the contented individual is not in need of control - after all, what's to control?

Currently we do not raise contented individuals. As the 'Ape confused by Language', more and more cultures, worldwide, increasingly inflame and aggravate the Ape while stultifying and befuddling, the human cerebral veneer. Although we have the ability and infrastructure to make matters very much better, our juvenile-mentality power structures are such, that a direct attempt at improvement would be defeated. It seems a subversive approach is the only way - and suddenly we are in 1984.

..UK sets up Chagos Islands marine reserve ..

..However, Chagossians have previously said the protected zone could prevent them from fishing - their main livelihood.

The former residents, who were evicted from the British overseas territory between 1967 and 1971 to make way for a US Air Force base on the largest island, Diego Garcia, have fought a long-running battle in the UK courts for the right to return. ..

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8599125.stm


what good can come from an act based upon imperial ethnic cleansing? Is the Queen proud to be given an empire based on human misery and injustice? Is thta a modern foreign policy? or an 18thcentury one?

the FO needs to move out of carlton house [which oligarch owns that now?] and its images of empires and slaves. Stay in there long enough and people start to think they are walking around in togas.

the FO needs to be in a small building that truly represents the uk. eg. a doghouse or something shaped like a doormat.

REHOUSING POLICY (#28)

And a W-House for Parliament Jaunty? We do keep getting screwed!

24. jauntycyclist 'seems the focus is not news stories but attacking other posters? which is an ego trip? attempt to dominate? harassment? stick to news on a news board. that is the grown up thing to do? otherwise its just trolling?'

Seems to you maybe? But is it so? If you look more closely, you'll see that what I'm highlighting is modern sick-think (narcissism). That I'm pointing out how it works and how endemic it is in our culture doesn't mean that I'm doing anything unpleasant. On the contrary, take a look more closely at the way that the news is constituted, how our culture is in decline (along with any productive economy), and perhaps you'll begin to bettter appreciate what I'm referring to, including your own (egocentric and incorrigible?) behaviour.

27. barriesingleton 'CULTURE IS ALL POWERFUL BUT WHENCE COMES CULTURE'

Us. One needs at least two to make a culture.

Read 'Beyond Freedom and Dignity'.

19. barriesingleton 'SCHOOL IS NOT WHAT NATURE WOULD DO'

But school is what nature does. Schooling selects behaviours.

It's just that today, not as many people are doing as they are told. Is that because more people today are brighter, or is it that more people today are dumber (more child-like)? They certainly seem more prone to raging, sulking etc. Might this be because they don't know their place? Don't know their boundaries? Have no identifiable culture? Are insecure i.e. 'xenophobic'?

Mind you, what would I know? I'm not a celebrity.

Best watch NN for the answers ;-)

NEWSNIGHT THIS EVENING DID NOT REPRESENT A BALANCED REPORT OF THE CONSERVATIVE NI TAX REMOVAL. oN RADIO PM WATERSTONE WAS INTERVIEWED AS HE WAS ON NEWSNIGHT. ON BOTH OCASSIONS NO CONSERVATIVE RESPONDENT WAS PROVOIDED. THERE WERE AT LEAST 23 SUPPORTERS AVAILABLE PLUS CBI IOD ETC YET BBC REPORTED THAT NONE WERE AVAILABLE. HOW HARD DID THE BBC TRY TO BALANCE THE REPORTING ?

I wonder whether the programme went on at length about Labour's promised efficiencies which were published after the Budget and included the weird one about 400million being saved by the Health Service by cutting sickness leave as you did tonight about where the money for not raising NI (for some) was to come from.Yoy realy should try for objectivity.
Also interesting to see the 'historian' Tristram Hunt getting selected at last. Have you had a look at some of the other processes for selection that have happened eg John Reid's former seat?? A few angry Labour folk there too.
Newsnight Scotland not exactly on the ball either. Why should a council not hold an enquiry when the leader of said council(Glasgow) has admitted using a Class A drug (for example, should he not have been arrested?) and where there seem to be questions over how contracts were given out to Labour's biggest donor in Scotland? Not doing too well here, guys.

The BNP report:
A quote from the brother of a murdered man on tonights newsnight:

"Its a no-go white area"

#30 statist

"That I'm pointing out how it works and how endemic it is in our culture doesn't mean that I'm doing anything unpleasant. On the contrary, take a look more closely at the way that the news is constituted, how our culture is in decline (along with any productive economy), and perhaps you'll begin to bettter appreciate what I'm referring to"

Actually you very rarely refer to your "solution" - National Socialism - nor the Marxist-Leninism that you feel Hitler took so seriously (though such as Bullock have identified virtual plagiarism of the ideas by Hitler) and as others such as Russell have suggested Hitler and the National Socialists were just ugly replacement monarchists. The idea of a Fuhrer-state would have been anathema to the Leninists.

They also used to like shooting the middle classes whom the BNP would like to cosy up to.

The reason that you do not mention what you are about is you have said in the past that you would like to "explicate" and take people "on a journey".

Once people start to hear Hitler, an end to democracy in favour of National Socialist tyranny and the nonsense that underpins BNP racial policies they don't want to know.

In particular it can't be lost on people that the BNP still spout on about wanting an end to multi-racialism but declined to take their "science" to court against the EHRC with regard to racial membership.

Their science is rather like the non-existent murders that Barnbrook of the BNP cited due to a mixture of "dyslexia and church bells" when the council cited his behaviour as bringing the council into disrepute.

As for unpleasant anybody who rants on about "the Jewish hegemony" as you do and, as jaded_jean, implies the Holocaust was "made up to put people off statism" probably has no conscience and enjoys the impact of your vile words.

#32 statist

"They certainly seem more prone to raging, sulking etc. Might this be because they don't know their place? Don't know their boundaries? Have no identifiable culture? Are insecure i.e. 'xenophobic'?

Mind you, what would I know? I'm not a celebrity. "

What would you know ... about science? Zip so far as the content of your posts goes as science shows the races are all incredibly similar rather than different.

As for culture it is known the BNP have a bouncey castle, like beer and would probably like to wear uniforms but it is not politically desirable now - though their Hungarian far right partners in Europe do wear uniforms and carry pretty little flags. All very Nuremburg rallies I am sure.

As for rages you go on about Jews almost daily and never manage to "explicate" what evidence you have to warrant your odious views. There isn't any - not real evidence anyway - or again you would have taken it off to a court somewhere.

#30 statist

"But is it so? If you look more closely, you'll see that what I'm highlighting is modern sick-think (narcissism). That I'm pointing out how it works and how endemic it is in our culture doesn't mean that I'm doing anything unpleasant. On the contrary, take a look more closely at the way that the news is constituted, how our culture is in decline (along with any productive economy), and perhaps you'll begin to bettter appreciate what I'm referring to, including your own (egocentric and incorrigible?) behaviour."

You really are truly pathetic and amoral because as ever you talk around the subject and never provide the evidence.

Try examples and facts.

If you rant on about the Jewish hegemony and then have to cite statistics about how well the Jews are doing in NYC (often because they had to flee the Nazis) that says much - particularly because as has been identified many times these "statistics" never show up in any court or before the EHRC.

So for you this is probably the "propaganda", i.e. fact free, that Lee Barnes of the BNP wants to use to win over the middle classes "now that they have won over the working class".

Yes of course they have a few councilors and a couple of MEP's.

They also have a web site "that gets more hits than all of the other parties combined" and that's why they win so very many seats - and stating the blindingly obvious they don't.

I could be wrong but wasn't Lee Barnes the head banger who claimed to be half Jewish and said "God Bless Hitler!" - though they "aren't a Nazi Party". Hitler of course would have had any Jew who met the one sixteenth blood line rule gassed or shot and so you have to conclude that Barnes may have some serious issues.

But then the BNP called the EHRC a "sniveling quango" for making them comply with the law on racial membership policies and also said "they they had been meaning to do it for years".

But they seem obsessed with the fact that they are not skin heads - though you won't hear them condemn the English Defence League that they are associated with.

But history shows that the Nazis had many well educated people like Mengele and so on and the BNP have a QC in their ranks.

However that does not mean that their views are not scientific hogwash and that they are not enthusiastically evil when it comes to their unbalanced racial views.

#17 statist

"some posters often take offence rather than express gratitude for being corrected."

You used to post as jaded_jean and when I started to press you on your "scientific evidence" with regard to race and IQ citing the science that lies behind "Race and Intelligence" on Channel 4 and "The Incredible Human Journey" you went AWOL and the started with a new id.

These days you talk enthusiastically around the subject in just the same way that the BNP will talk of racial differences but they can't cite the science in a court against the likes of the EHRC - because they know it does not exist.

Where is the beef?

#22 statist

"Given the talk about immigration and assimilation, here's an interesting perspective on those who have The Right of Return and yet don't act upon it:

'Herzl himself made the statement that, when the Jewish state is set up, if a Jew does not go to live in it he is anti-Semitic because he chooses to live with Gentiles rather than live with Jews which are his real community.'

E.M Wright 1977

It's a thought..."

No its utter rubbish as what you are really talking about is the alleged "Jewish hegemony" that does not exist.

I have mentioned that when you used to post as jaded_jean I compared your views to those of Von Bruun, the sometime American friend of the BNP, who had a record for trying to kidnap a Fed member due to his very similar views of a Jewish hegemony.

Right now he is on trial for shooting dead a security guard at a US Holocaust Memorial.

So you often claim Jews are psychopaths and there is a hegemony.

Why do you think he didn't do something more creative and launch a class action as his rights were being infringed? Why do you think that he won't show with solid evidence in court that he had to do what he did - to kill an innocent man.

If you have so much evidence against Jews why aren't you off to the US to defend a comrade?

No honour in the far right?

#23 indignantindegene

"#9 “If I might quote David Attenborough - he says three times the number of people exist as when he first started to broadcast! Three times!”

Aha! You’re beginning to ‘get it’. "

Don't be ridiculous!

When people cosy up to those who rant on about racial impurities, National Socialism, Holocaust Agnosticism and themselves are quite content with the English Defence League I don't care if they seem themselves as far right, far left or just evil.

I was actually talking about population totals and immigration - not about race.

If somebody talks sensibly about immigration that's one thing.

But I seem to recall that the many posters who appear to be far right on this page do from time to time express "that most of the posters on this page agree with the BNP" and I point out that many of the posters on this page, sadly, are the BNP.

But if you distance yourself from the BNP and make it clear you are not looking at things from a racial point of view that's fine with me.

#23 indignantindegene

"#7 Go1 “…returning to the "jewish hegemony" mindset is there no authority on the psychological side who could be interviews as to how people come to accept indoctrination into such a ludicrous idea when there is no evidence to support the notion?”

I believe it more vital to ask the same question on ‘suicide bombers’"

Why? They are separate questions and there is no reason why the motives of suicide bombers can't be done separately as there are different issues.

The primary point is that the far right attitude to Jews is based on zero evidence.

When people look at this page you will see many sly digs and hints but never any facts. So the perpetrators must know on one level that they are acting on the basis of a cult indoctrination rather than facts.

If the far right have facts that they can cite lets hear them but otherwise I am more inclined to listen to those who understand their ailment.

Can you really imagine Nick Griffin, the man who could not explain his views on the Holocaust when he was younger, coming up with credible answers for instance?

On the Stoke Labour Party all I can say is if the Labour Party let in the BNP then there is going to be hell to pay as people won't forget that in a hurry.

It does seem to me as a non-Labour Party person that Tristram Hunt has many good qualities but if he thinks there is a chance that he might lose I think he should withdraw as if he does he will always be the man that let the BNP in. He would always get another seat later.

It would also probably extinguish whatever Blairites are left in the Labour Party - but that may be seen as a positive.

On the National Insurance isn't there some simple modeling that needed to be done - if we raise NI and hinder job creation then there is more being spent on JSA and we may get a double dip.

If we don't raise NI and therefore have to raise VAT - or income tax I would have thought - then a lot of people will have less money to spend and therefore probably will depress the consumer spending and therefore will take away a stimulus for jobs.

So surely nobody wants to see a double dip and we just need to get the Treasury (I presume they have a wizard computer model) to give us their unbiased opinion free from political pressure.

As Gavin pointed out at the end of the programme last night, a 'scandal' involving Jeremy has made it to the front page of one of the national newspapers. But here's the newspaper's editorial comment:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/7546020/Master-and-demander.html

mim

Look at the verbal behaviour to this blog - much of it instantiates the wider predicament that we now face collectively (is that nationalistic/xenophobic/statist?). One has to look at it all very critically. If this is what one sees in the context of the BBC's flagship Current Events programme, what does this tell one about what's going on elsewhere? Very few people here are prepared to be self-critical and to learn, most prefer to trust what they currently believe over what is actually demonstrably the case.

Triple stranded DNA, modern philosophy a dead subject, personal attacks on politicians whilst at the same time acknowledging that most that they say is scripted by someone else, or is a party line, not personal....

Anyone who points out how things are - a cacophony of 'who are you to tell me...!!??.' as if one has to be a celebrity.

It's propositions........ not personalities stupid.
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the reserve would never have got through the uk planning system?

more imperial gestures from the man who has taken to croaking like a frog?

once again new labour's idol worship demands 'the blood' of human sacrifice. luckily they are not voters. but the poor and dispossessed. Are we no better than the IDF? maybe they should have had a nuclear weapons programme if they wanted to keep their islands from occupation?

#45

What a sad indictment of the state of our media in general, that a story such as this is on the front page of a broadsheet.

Surely a slow news day should be seen as an opportunity to delve more deeply into more important topics of the time.

Education: Sats, Private funding for schools, Curriculum for excellence (Scotland)
Population/Immigration
Climate Science
Banking Regulation
Drugs and alcohol
MP/candidate selection
Public sector pay
Strikes

could provide some starters for 10.

48. brightyangthing 'Strikes'

The proliferation of strikes so close to the General Election has me wondering. If I am right, these activists in the Unions are still Trotskyites (i.e anarchists). Their function is (paradoxically to some) to discredit statism/Trade Unionism i.e socialism, and thereby facilitate free-market anarchism. The consequence is a swing to the right wing - i.e Conservatives - the economic regulators/anarchists par excellence.

The problem today is that hordes of naive people have been indoctrinated (not educated, most are not bright enough) in our universities. They don't look to consequences i.e outcomes, instead they narcissistically look at their own verbally stated thoughts or others' stated intentions. These are all psychological nonsense. Spin.

49. If the Trade Union regulars try to stop the anarchists it looks to observers as if there's infighting in the unions, and if they don't stop them, the public sees childish antics from the unions (note the 'show us your willie', or 'get your willie out' banners not long ago). Either way, this behaviour serves the interests of the right, i.e the Conservatives.

#48
"What a sad indictment of the state of our media in general, that a story such as this is on the front page of a broadsheet."

And a sad indictment of the state of our NN comments when a certain blogger makes over a third of all posts obsessed with Hitler and hatred, yet seems unable to produce any links or evidence to support his vitriolic condemnation of other's posts.

51. indignantindegene 'And a sad indictment of the state of our NN comments when a certain blogger makes over a third of all posts obsessed with Hitler and hatred, yet seems unable to produce any links or evidence to support his vitriolic condemnation of other's posts.'

It's emotional propaganda, that's all. The content is not rational and doesn't stand much scrutiny as it's just an effort to create aversion through fabricated, unpleasant associations and abuse. In outcome, this can only facilitate libertarianism, which is of course, what we're already suffering the consequences of. The emotional reactions are contiguous with the other, more rationally stated proposition posted by others, which makes those hard to process. It's a political technique to shut down rational discussion. Sadly, it often works.

Fomenting conflict: Here's some evidence in the context of past warnings. An adolescent state. Think of a teenager complaining that everyone is always getting at them etc, when in fact, it's them who's making life difficult for everyone around them through their lack of empathy, identity problems, tantrums etc. Imagine that but with tanks, F16s etc!

#48

Quite, Brightyangthing. Although it must be something about Jeremy having the capacity to stimulate a bit of excitement. I would say that the story makes him more endearing.

And just a note - I thought that last Monday he seemed to ooze confidence on University Challenge without at all being arrogant. It was good to see him like that. Newsnight must be more difficult to handle with all the pressures attached to it.

mim

Whilst USA and China leaders chat on the phone over Iran and the efficacy or justice of sanctions, note what Mr Foxman (of the ADL) has to say in response to two critical FT pieces). Read this critically. Especially the bit about Arabs in Israel and Jews in the West Bank. What is omitted? This, I suggest, is how adolescents 'argue'. This annoys grown-ups because it's a) duplicitous b) naive/irrational c) insults grown up's intelligence.

The UN should physically stop this disproportionate behaviour on the part of Israel, if only to show that the UN can do what it was allegedly set up to do, and it should be done by China and Russia's lead too, in order to show the world that the UN is not merely the tool of the Western, Liberal-Democracies, that many, with good cause, think it is.

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What one sees happening in Israel/Palestine is also happening in the USA/EU, except in the latter, the tool is demographic and economic. The result is a dramatic change in the indigenous population and shift in power. One can see this in terms of the demographics and control of the economy. The example used most often is NYC, but London is going the same way. The figures are a matter of public record. Aside from dramatic ethnic changes to the populations of these two cities, look at the role which the Financial Service (and Service Sector more generally) Sector plays, look at the retail business, entertainment business, the high salience of narcissism as celebritism. This, sadly, is exactly what led to trouble in Germany in the 1920s and 1930s, and many know this. Pointing this out should not make the messengers targets for abuse, but serve instead to keep people focused on what should be highlighted, and encourage others to make a rational contribution to critically examining whether what's being highlighted is sound.

It was good to hear last night that 'leading business persons' have much the same low credibility as bankers and politicians. People should look into why. The BBC covered some of this in the K & P for influence saga, and even Robert Peston covered it in his book. So, how much more obvious could it all be made? To prevent a re-run of C20th history, we need to learn from it, recognizing that this is a problem which has kept recurring over and over again throughout history.

51 + 52 above.

There does seem to have been a growth in the last few years of ....

‘he shouts loudest will get the most attention’ !

(Unfortunately there appears to be one poster on here trying to get his her opinion across by shouting repeatedly. Wasn’t it Maslow that said, effectively, .... We do what we do not for others but ourselves. Perhaps he she just wants to form a gang of some sort?)

A good example of noise overshadowing fact recently was the Yarlswood ‘ishoo’

It took a while to get the message across that the adults were here illegally and the children here at the whim of their parents.

Yet those with and axe to grind, or fee to gain, turned the spotlight on the authorities.

Bad, bad people!

The important question - then - not answered was why so many held are subsequently given ‘leave to stay’?

Is it that the law was routed by the lawyers or ....

The laws are ‘unfit for purpose’?




Anyone ever imagined trying to walk down a country lane when it is as congested as the London Underground in the rush hour?

nice report on russia .

meanwhile

..UK troops suffer in Sangin, the most dangerous place in Afghanistan..

The 2 Rifles Battle Group lost 24 soldiers during the summer months, while their successors in 3 Rifles Battle Group have now lost 29, with more than 100 soldiers injured since September. In the past month nine soldiers have died around the town.

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7085036.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084

for what? so drug dealers can safely grow crops to sell to russia?

58. JAperson 'Is it that the law was routed by the lawyers or ....

The laws are ‘unfit for purpose’?'

Sadly, lawyers just work within the law, nothing else (much) matters. I'm sure there was a day when it was somewhat otherwise and companies cared about professional reputation as well as professiomal competence, but today, fees seem to be all that count, and the legislaton is written in Natural Language so is always open to argument, which is of course, how they make their money.

'Anyone ever imagined trying to walk down a country lane when it is as congested as the London Underground in the rush hour?'

For those who don't look at the figures (or live in London) it doesn't impact upon them, hence my focus on narcissism/individualism, which is a divide and conquer political/economic strategy. Many won't see it, even though it's in the their face. In fact, many switch on their TV for their daily fix, complain about the consequences, and yet vilify anyone who threatens their freedom to think and do as they choose! Remember the 'War on Terror'? Who might that have served if the above analysis is sound :-(

59. jauntycyclist 'for what? so drug dealers can safely grow crops to sell to russia?'

For what indeed. Who brought the USSR to its knees? Who made money by selling off the state in the 1990s. Look at the birth rate of the ex socialist countries in the East. Why was this ever allowed to happen on humanitarian grounds?

Now this. For what? For what happened in the 1920s and 30s? For support of the Arab states in the Middle East, Iran today?

@ Mim #54 - the story has also made it to the Daily Mail too!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1262887/University-Challenge-sensation-Alex-Guttenplan-reveals-Jeremy-Paxman-t-pronunciation-correct.html

I'd like to know how many people would be able to pronounce words (in a language other than English) perfectly first time, without having a chance to rehearse it. Not many, that's for sure! On top of that, how many quiz show hosts actually debate an answer given by a contestant with the Editor in the contestant's favour?

Jeremy is a really lovely person, both the exterior and the interior, so no wonder he's a national treasure :o)

62. Mistress76uk 'Jeremy is a really lovely person, both the exterior and the interior, so no wonder he's a national treasure :o)'

He may well be a lovely person, but as a highly paid journalist/presenter, not only can he afford to be, but as someone in show-business, to a degree, he has to be.

What you're describing/discussing/admiring is performance, and writ large, this is slowly destroying our culture.

Can you not see how? if not, perhaps you should look into it, see some of the things which he, himself has said himself about the media, and here you are reinforcing some of it, day after day.

Why?

#62

Mistress76uk

I suppose Jeremy is lovely in some ways but in this context it sounds a bit like 'nice', a little meaningless. Besides, there is another side to his TV persona which one could say does not exactly meet the criteria of soppy 'loveliness'. Do I need to say more?

But, from what I've heard from people who work with him, he is a very kind and caring person in real life, apparently.

With regard to mispronunciation, after all, he is only human and with all kinds of professional and personal concerns, I'm sure. It seems to me a bit of a cheap 'swipe' on the part of Alex Guttenplan.

Plus, I don't really understand what the big deal about Alex replying to Jeremy that it wasn't a guess which seems to me like the most banal answer one could give in this context.

I think I'll skip giving an opinion on Jeremy's looks. As they say 'beauty is in the eyes of the beholder'.

mim

@ Statist #63 - It's not "Worship at the altar of Celebrity" at all. What is wrong with someone using the fact that they are well-known and loved to promote something worthwhile, such as Jeremy supporting (and being) an organ donor, or leaving his brain to scientists for medical research? He does not have to be at all. He chooses to be :o)

I remember that remark made about the media - he himself stated it was said in jest!

addendum to #64 & #66

Mistress76uk

If Jeremy was lovely, lovely, why would Gordon Brown have a problem accepting an interview with him? He is probably scared out of his pants!

Part of Jeremy's appeal is that he can be sharp and insistent on his studio interlocutors to either give a straightforward answer or speak with at least a degree of sense. After all, he interviews people in positions of power and not some poor souls in the street.

Mistress76uk, Jeremy has criticised the media, quite severely at times, in fact. And quite right too, with so much crap and scam going on all over the place!

mim

#66

in the previous post it was supposed to be #65 plus I forgot to add this:

https://devonandcornwallviewpoint.blogspot.com/2010/03/brown-versus-paxman-it-might-not-happen.html

mim

65. Mistress76uk 'It's not "Worship at the altar of Celebrity" at all.'

Are you aure?

'What is wrong with someone using the fact that they are well-known and loved to promote something worthwhile, such as Jeremy supporting (and being) an organ donor, or leaving his brain to scientists for medical research?'

Being well known for what though? He's a presenter, he's part of a team. The same is the case with politicians (that doesn't make him or any politicians any less of a respectable individual). However, once one starts pinning all on the presenter, the speech-maker, the weather-girl etc, one has fallen for illusion of celebritism, is my point. I'm not criticising Paxman here, or your admiration for him (which wold be offensive, as it's clearly personal and therefore your right), on the contrary, this from 2005 was accurate and needed to be written.

'I remember that remark made about the media - he himself stated it was said in jest!'

Are you really sure? ;-)

Perhaps one more thing, Mistress76uk. My impression is that Jeremy does listen to criticisms coming in his direction as long as they are constructive ones. He may even, it seems to me, take some of them to heart, as they say.

mim

Was BBC1's 'The Day Jesus Died' presented by Bettany Hughes on Good Friday, a veiled message that if people take on the money-lenders (as Jesus did), they risk being flogged and crucified?....;-)

Heroin in Russia

Thinking about this, the Russian army were in Afganistan for many years, and so are our troops.

Did the Russians learn to take heroin whilst in Afganistan? Is it a cunning plan by the Afgans to flood Russia with heroin, to pay Russians back for invading their country? Why do the police and government turn a blind eye to drug taking? Is Russia a gateway of spreading drugs further into Europe? There seems a strange connection between Russia and Afganistan, is in fact Afganistan having the last laugh?

And will our troops end up like the Russian ones?

https://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100032460/when-the-germans-give-up-on-agw-you-really-do-know-its-all-over/

Dodgy Rail strikes and odd injunctions: The problem is, it's as hard to work out what a 'communist's agenda in the UK is, as it is a Conservative's.

How many of our GB 'communists' appreciate that the scope of the term 'working class' is everyone who works, except those who make their living through speculation/capital, and given so much of our economy has been put in the hands of exactly them over the past 40 years, what do the Conservatives, New Labour or the Lib-Dems promise except more of their (now evidently) destructive exploitation/confusion/anarchism/consumerism?

SOUND THINKING (#71)

Presumably the GIs were introduced to drugs by the Viet Cong, then 'sent back home'.

ON FURTHER THOUGHT (#71)

We should let he Muslim hoards invade us, and then 'turn' them to the alcohol and kebab 'side'. They would never again be able to threaten anyone, except the poor paramedic who shovelled them up at 2.00 am. (:o)

Rider: Does the God Alcohol extinguish all thought of other gods? You don't get many drunks banging on the church door, do you!

71. ecolizzy - the story is that before we turned up the Taliban controlled/limited the morphine trade, and, by fighting the Taliban, the ISAF (I See Americans Fighting) has caused Russia problems.

Who does the 'War on Terror' really serve, and how? Who is anti Islamic? The USSR/Russia wasn't (although what's happening in the South of Russia just North-East of Georgia is odd, small-scale, but gives Russians an opportunity to amass forces in that area, not too far from Iran etc). Russia supported the Arabs in the Middle-East too (not Israel) from the 1950s onwards, and many of its republics were Islamic, so they're hardly anti-Muslim. There's a complex East-West old Cold War game going on in the region, with fall-out all over the place.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1261389/SamCams-father-exploits-Labours-green-subsidy-wind-farm-nets-3-5m-year.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/03/28/tories-rake-in-18million-from-businessman-by-selling-access-to-leader-david-cameron-115875-22143124/

https://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/02/labour-conservative-big-business-bullies

"#9 “If I might quote David Attenborough - he says three times the number of people exist as when he first started to broadcast! Three times!”

Aha! You’re beginning to ‘get it’ No Indi she still doesn't get it!

So here's a little more explanation, and no it's nothing to do with race you know, it's just too many people.

https://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=38213

I'll just highlight this piece for you.

A 2007 UN study spoke of an "environmental crisis of global proportions" that could uproot 50 million people from their homes by 2010, mostly in Africa.

That's almost the population of Britain, well 30 years ago, all on the move all without a home, food or water.

81. ecolizzy 'A 2007 UN study spoke of an "environmental crisis of global proportions" that could uproot 50 million people from their homes by 2010, mostly in Africa.

That's almost the population of Britain, well 30 years ago, all on the move all without a home, food or water.'

Imagine you're talking to a naughty, Oppositionally Defiant, 9 year old boy.

Why bomb/invade a nation when you can destroy it (or get it to destroy itself) demographically/economically?

One can extend this to other countries by taking the Mean and Standard Deviation of a nation's cognitive ability (based on test random construction samples or PISA results) as a guide to their economic and political viability/stability. Think 'ethnic cleansing'.

What's odd, is that people won't/don't think this way because they don't like it. It upsets them. It shouldn't happen. But wars shouldn't happen, crime shouldn't happen, teenage pregnancies shouldn't happen..etc etc.

The data on national differences in ability is all out there for anyone to see, and yet... most ignore it. Why? How rational/intelligent is that? And they still let more come in, and more have babies!

See my first point. :-(

#82 Why bomb/invade a nation when you can destroy it (or get it to destroy itself) demographically/economically?

One can extend this to other countries by taking the Mean and Standard Deviation of a nation's cognitive ability (based on test random construction samples or PISA results) as a guide to their economic and political viability/stability.

But Stat why would anyone bother dumbing down another nation, yes I see what you mean, to take it over, and take it's wealth.

But what wealth would it be creating if all the people are dumb, don't know how to work or make or save money, so no consumers, just lots of people roaming the streets and fighting.

So to who's advantage would all this be? Or do they all become docile and just follow instructions, even to their disadvantage or death?

#62

University Challenge

83. ecolizzy 'But Stat why would anyone bother dumbing down another nation, yes I see what you mean, to take it over, and take it's wealth.'

Best seen in terms of unintended consequences. Big businesses look for markets, i.e. consumers - think Coca Cola etc. They're like great economic hoovers. Think of lots of Alan Sugar's saying their job is just to increase returns for their shareholders etc. The less government in a country regulating in protection of the people (i.e the 'freer' they are) the better, so investors back the 'wrong' types of governments. They're not being intentionally malicious, just doing what's good for their business, but that just tells one how useless/irrelevant terms like 'intention' are in explanatory positions I suggest.

'But what wealth would it be creating if all the people are dumb, don't know how to work or make or save money, so no consumers, just lots of people roaming the streets and fighting.'

Asset stripping (sometimes it's in the ground (oil, minerals). The people making the money are internationalists and will move on somewhere else in time, i.e. find other 'emerging markets'...

'So to who's advantage would all this be? Or do they all become docile and just follow instructions, even to their disadvantage or death?'

Looks like it here (UK, EU, USA)...

#84

Well put, mademoiselle_h, but my impression is that it's more some pretentious 'intellectuals' upstarts who have never really made it and never will that are, I suspect, behind the campaign to undermine Jeremy.

Love your bit about Einstein. Again, there's a smart a. around who thinks he is one and who has a big problem about the so-called 'celebrities'.

mim

APE-BLOKE JUST HAS TO BE TOPP - AS ANY FULE KNO (#83)

You are on the money there Lizzie.

In this world dominated by male principles (paradoxically driven by aberrant females) we are in a bind because the rest of the females are not, by nature, militant.

Conversely, 'reasonable bloke', in the current atmosphere of aberrance, has bought into the 'New Man', leaving Ape-bloke to 'go global' in his need to be topp.

Bombing, invading (rape, pillage, humiliation, dominance) all appeal to Ape-bloke. It might LOOK nihilistic afterwards, and real advantage will be hard to define, but Ape-bloke KNOWS WHEN HE'S WON.

All round the globe are cultures messed up by past invasion, when colonial bloke wanted to be topp in their land. Now he wants to be GLOBAL-TOPP and it will end in GLOBAL TEARS. But then, to Ape-bloke SIZE MATTERS. (:o)

This is just the tip of the iceberg, just one consequence of the abandonment of deference and the anti-elitism which has been championed by idiocrats, aka narcissistic anarchists. The problem, how many actually see what they are doing? On the other hand, how many are able to face up to the scale of the drugs problem, i.e how and why it is such a problem (see earlier). Like rehabilittation/therapy, the track record of those in this area is dismal. They just mean well.

This, and especially the excellent piece by Newsnight a while back showing footage of elderly people in white coats, and safety glasses, mixing their concoctions, appeals to my sense of humour in these bizarre, peculiar times.

Updated in March 2010 too!

Morning All :o)

@ Statist #68 - Referring to the 2005 article from IoS, Jeremy states that (journalism) "The trade is, by and large, underpaid, oversubscribed, and has no longevity in it at all."

He is being HONEST. Yes, he does have a very distinguished career with many award winning interviews, and does have the longevity factor, but how many of his contemporaries are still in the spotlight? The vast majority of journalists, on screen at least, are only seen for a few years if they are lucky. A prime example would be Jonathon Dimbleby. I can't even remember the last time he was on screen. He's been moved to Radio 4. Speaking of the current crop of on screen journalists - how many names would you actually be able to put to faces? I know I certainly wouldn't be able to name them.

#83

Ecolizzy

Talking of death, who's to be next?

But please rest assured, I've never wished you personally any harm.

mim

#87

Singie

I wouldn't be so sure about the money.

As far as I'm concerned, size has turned out to matter, but on the fat front (^_^).

mim

#90

Mistress76uk

And, apparently, according to what Michael Crick wrote some time ago, lots of people working behind the scenes, as editors, etc, have left Newsnight itself to pursue careers in other fields.

Besides, Jeremy is absolutely right about the media, and I think it particularly applies to the BBC, being if not controlled then manipulated by Marxists. It must be quite difficult to breathe in the place. Just look at the bottom left corner of today's BBC Homepage. A Marxist or a Trotskyte, a proclaimer of statism in any case, was hoping to have lots of fun today playing with 'children'.

mim

#92 correction

I've made a ridiculous mistake there.

Size matters but NOT on the fat front, at least for me! (^_^)

mim

Singie

It's not the globality that things have reached already anyway and it's not me meeting up with and keeping in touch with who I call cerebral celebrities that preoccupy me most. /I treasure for example Alain de Botton, a very well known writer translated into 20 languages who doesn't feel too grand to respond to my e-mails and with whom, it turns out by his own confirmation, I have quite a bit in common perception wise,/

But, it is a few teenagers who really make me carry on with my fight against injustice, abuse and sheer stupidity. If not for them, I may have given up by now.

mim

#95

To the above list I would add: megalomania, pretentiousness, pomposity and inadequacy, etc

90. Mistress76uk Here's a positive suggestion: have another look at the post which you were responding to, and look again at what you said in reply above. Do you see how it is more along the lines of a response one might expect from say thegangofone or mimpromptu, than say ecolizzy? What characterises the responses of the first two do you think? Bear in mind what I have said about people and their beliefs. There's a pattern here, and it's not so much personal as reflective of a world-view, a style. What characterises celebritism or narcissism. What are the consequences of this writ large? How does it relate to age and development? How does that relate to economics and this countries (and the USA's) predicament??

"unacceptable face" of banking."

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8601512.stm

It needs to be understood that it has gone way way past this. Incentivised destruction is now not stoppable. The Americans talk of regulation. It has to be stoppable first and then stopped. just like a murderer holding a gun to someone. What would be the point in regulating them ? - its a nonsense.

Banking is an unacceptable face period. If you have a bank account basically your contributing to the bullets in the murderers gun. Trouble is the authorities, big business and the internet have forced people to have bank accounts because you cant do business any other way or if you do will pay more.

HAS MANDY HIT MENOPAUSE?

He is coming out with odd statements for a chap who takes delight in 'filthy richness', and the company of those of that ilk.

To call him a loose cannon might be unkind - a pink peashooter perhaps?

97. Look for Black-White expression ('thinking' manifest as behavioural expression) - an inability to compromise and/or handle grey areas. It's child-like behaviour is it not? Narcissism is normally eroded or has its edges rounded by living/maturation/experience, except for life's actors, who wear a facade, who they are doesn't get enough exposure, so doesn't grow up?

Speaking of which, see The Oblivious Ones over in NYC. Do you believe they couldn't see it (see FRONTLINE - THE WARNING)? It is possible, if I am right, although it will take some work for many to see this, and sadly, those who most need to do so, won't. That's the paradox.