Monday, 2 February, 2009

ZOO LOGICAL MANDELSON TRIUMPH.

Lord Peter Mandelson - Secretary of State for Basic Error and Readjusted Reality, has given the lie to the view of those British Workers creating unrest in recent times. Mandelson, in his undoubted wisdom, has pointed out that - whatever the minor disadvantages might be - where the 'Human Zoo' is concerned, 'HUGE ECONOMIC ADVANTAGES' accrue (BBC Today) by PUTTING ALL TYPES OF ANIMAL IN ONE ENCLOSURE.

Experts in human advancement say this is the greatest insight since 'Let them eat cake'. (A two year 'Cake Eating Committee' will begin sitting in September to check this assertion.

Reports of the Lion lying down to eat the lamb (and less reliable rumour of dog-eat-dog) are being discounted by the, instantly-formed, 'Think Tank for Readjusted Reality'.

It would appear that the Corporate Nazi stock market parasites are wagging Brown and Mandelson not to attempt to change the law on EU corporate contracts.

The current situation with workers living on a virtual prison ship whilst paying through the nose for the privilege is a template of how the Corporate Nazi's envisage the future of paid employment. Of course its OK because British workers can get employment on the continent if they are prepared to be away from their family and live in a virtual concentration camp. The stock market can also parasite by changing even more money ( they will never support adoption of the Euro ).

NO NATIONALISM - YES EU/INTERNATIONAL ANARCHO-CAPITALISM?

At the Britishwildcats site they say:

"Gordon Brown says “there’s no reversing globalisation” and that “we’re in a single European Union”, and so he can’t do anything effective to protect British jobs. In that case Gordon Brown has got to go"

As I understand it, this makes no sense at all given that the Lisbon Treaty has been ratified by Parliament. Plenty of people warned about where Lisbon would lead, but legally, the die is now cast is it not?

A German customer sent me this today;

"British workers drive in German cars to Irish pubs to drink Belgian beer; on the way home they stop for a Chinese takeaway, an Indian curry or a Turkish kebab. When home, they lounge on Swedish furniture, watching American shows on Japanese television. And the most British thing of all?
Suspicion of all things foreign.

Gordi needs to explain precisely what he meant by "British jobs for British workers"; meanwhile I hope Paul Mason can get to the bottom of the claims and counter claims; we do not need High Visibility Man, seduced by the BNP, forcing protectionist concessions from Gordi. Interesting to see how Lord Vader handles it after his initial slap down of the plastic vested horde.

Lords reform; abolish cricket once and for all and have done with it.

Snow/ schmow - we're never ready- muddling through is what makes us British.

Mustn't grumble!

Rhetorical question: Given that there are twice as many males as there are females with an IQ of 1.33 Standard deviations above the mean (i.e 120 and the ratio of males:females just increases exponentially as one moves to the right of the distribution), why are there are more females in higher education than there are males? Is this not prima facie evidence that Higher Education has been markedly dumbed down in recent times and that intelligence doesn't matter?. Not only that, but it now looks like putting females into Higher Education accounts for 1/3 of them remaining childless, so it's a double demographic whammy!

No wonder we are getting more and more stupid as a nation.

Is it possible to emigrate to Iceland?

I've heard it's nice there this time of year

Let's remind ourselves of how Russia deals with foreign workers:

https://tinyurl.com/russianimmigrationreform
https://tinyurl.com/5f6dh3

"The number of non-Russians working in the retail trade is now being limited to 40% and, by 2008, that number is supposed to be zero. The new law was proposed after race riots in northern Russia last summer. In the aftermath of the riots, President Vladimir Putin spoke of the need to defend the interests of the native population.

At the time of the November announcement, the deputy head of Russia's migration service, Vyacheslav Postavnin, called for limits on the concentration of ethnic minorities in towns and cities across the country. Postavnin said their numbers should not exceed 20%, to prevent "enclaves" emerging in which native Russians were outnumbered.

"According to our calculations, compact habitation by citizens of another country in any district or region of the country should not surpass 17% to 20%, especially if they have a different national culture and religious faith," said Mr. Postavnin, quoted by the Vremya Novostei daily.

"Exceeding this norm creates discomfort for the indigenous population."



So whilst Russia has a government that puts it's indigenous population first, here in the UK, we have a Labour government that refuses to do so. The Labour party has now shown it's true colours. It does not care for the British workers, it only cares about pleasing multinational corporations, the EU and the global elite; that is where Labour's loyalties lie. Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson have shown that they are not on the side of the British workers, that they think these protests are "inexcusable" and that British people should leave their own country/family/friends to get work. Labour doesn't have any respect for British workers, or even for humanity. It thinks we are just numbers on a spreadsheet to be shunted around the world, like economic cannon fodder to be housed in floating prison ships.

What really is totally inexcusable is Labour's attitude towards British workers. The UNELECTED Peter Mandelson telling us to leave our own country for his benefit, is downright offensive. Mandelson has no mandate, he perfectly exemplifies the undemocratic nature of the EU and the undemocratic way in which mass immigration has been forced onto us against our will. Mandelson is the one who should leave Britain.

You refer in your programme introduction to 'an under-reported British culture war.'

Does the BBC accept any responsibility for that under-reporting?

Over the past 3 years the BBC's 'Have Your Say' repeatedly sidelined ('moderated') any of my blogs that commented on this looming crisis. Newsnight is more equitable in allowing a wider range of opinion in it's blog site, but still shows less than justified concern about immigration/culture issues in programme content.

At least in today's programme intro you mention BNP (albeit in a somewhat critical reference) and go on to state that UKIP is one of the few political parties to support the strikers - thus avoiding acknowledging that BNP has been reporting the culture crisis consistently for years. It is a registered political party and obviously has growing support because other parties will not tackle issues which have been of increasing concern to the British public.

If Newsnight is too timid to give full coverage to public opinion of all shades on its programme, could it not invite Andrew Green to comment on the very important and relevant Briefing Paper that appears on his Migration Watch website. He is a respected diplomat and quotes only official statistics and facts that should be more widely studied and debated.

However, I expect even Jeremy will tread very cautiously and briefly over your tail-end topic - 'should Britain have a two-child limit on families' knowing that this question is loaded ethnically.

"So whilst Russia has a government that puts it's indigenous population first, here in the UK, we have a Labour government that refuses to do so. The Labour party has now shown it's true colours. It does not care for the British workers, it only cares about pleasing multinational corporations, the EU and the global elite; that is where Labour's loyalties lie."

Spot on. I remember linking to this article some time back in the old blog but the irony didn't strike home. We'll have none of that Socialism in One Country (Stalinist Old Labour) here or, in the rest of Europe (and especially not Germany/Austria even a whiff of that's strictly verbotten as it was deemed bad for US banking/business interests so don't forget the holocaust!). Instead, as we now see, International Socialism is for the people. Trotskyism privatises profit and socialises toxic risk where it can be spread ever so thinly and most important of all, surreptitiously until they got too greedy. Back in the 1920s look into the NEP in the USSR, Du Pont, Ford (Gaz)....It took a while for Stalin to catch on.

hillsideboy (#8) The very odd thing is that no matter how hard one tries to make the essential facts better known, they never seem to stick.

MENDACITY IN ALL ITS 'GLORY' - ENOUGH ALREADY

All the elements are here in the BOLTON, PIPES AND INBAR 'solution' to the Palestine-Israel problem - just make Nazi Palestine go away. Note the constant associations for the West...poor Israel is being persecuted by the 'nasties' so it's OK to be disproportionate yes? Just like you were in WWII - e.g Dresden yes? After all, the nasty Palestinians want another holocaust don't they?

etc etc..

#7; would you really like to live in Russia or follow the rest of Russian policies?
Criticism of the Government, which you're perfecly entitled to make here, would get you shot or poisoned in Rossiya. Remember, too, that Rus is not in the EU.

Education and the lack of good teachers prevents the British "working class" migrating to find work - I don't see what's wrong with working in other countries, provided you're willing to adapt and learn the language. I know of many British families who do, both in the EU and beyond.I believe also that there are more British passport holders living and/or working abroad than there are "foreigners" living/working here, so let's not get too aereated.

#8; "BNP... A registered political party" - so what? So was the NSDAP - eventually; that's the National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany to you.

Protectionist inward looking approaches will not work, unless you are a BNP or UKIP agitator. The world has always been globalised, it's merely the definition of "global" that has changed over the centuries.

the snow has come from the eu so, according to eu law, has a right to settle in the uk...

Why do you think the foreigners are working in the first place? Because companies could not find any British workers to do the job. I know people from Africa working in factories in Leicester and they tell me it's mostly foreigners there, not because they are cheap labour but they are the only ones willing to work the long hours and do the early morning starts.

What about the cleaners around London? They are mostly foreigners too as most British people don't want to to be 'stooping low' to such jobs. Companies need to fill their vacancies and should only consider those willing to work.

kashibeyaz (#12) "would you really like to live in Russia or follow the rest of Russian policies?"

Not since the Chicago School sent them Liberal-Democracy'. You'll note that China never took up the offer.

Do you reckon they might know something that the Russian's didn't and many here still don't?

If a large development is constructed, for housing, for industry, or commerce, an Environmental Impact Assessment is required, so that the impact can be evaluated, and provisions made for services, in order for the local community to accommodate the development. This includes the socio-economic impacts relating to the local economy, jobs, as well as local public services, hospitals, schools, and police. The socio-economic or otherwise impact of immigration has a similar impact, and without similar provisions, the ability of local services and facilities to accommodate them has not been given any consideration. Environmental Impact Assessment legislation requires developments such as housing developments, industrial developments, etc, to all require extensive look at what impacts the local area will experience, in concordance with town planning within a strategic framework. This enables local authorities to provide provisions for all concerned to be able to effectively deal with it. Immigration camps and agencies employing exclusively foreign employees seem curiously exempt from any such procedure. This is in addition to the eco-towns, which have some sort of hidden 'strategic' agenda, and are similarly considered exempt from conventional town planning processes. As such setups have supposedly benefitted the economy, surely Britain should be a country to sustainably accommodate them. Should a facility benefit from and require foreign labour, should the local population not receive some recompense as a result of the impact of such immigration ? Otherwise, is the alternative future to be a world of proletariat vagabonds and ruthlessly capitalist corporations run by bourgeoise billionnaires ? If this is an economy I am supposed to want, I would rather be poor, for without a place to lay my hat, I am poor. Whats the point of consumerism if I havn't got anywhere to put the products I can buy at ever cheaper rates. I wont be paying to throw that one, the government can stick it where the sun doesn't shine ! My proposal is that an immigration bill should provide mechanisms for local authorities to be able to assess the impacts of large scale immigration and vagabond workers, and be able to have sustainable developments that provide long-term jobs with career progression without people continuously worrying their contract about to expire. This shouldn't be about fascism, it should be about respect for local people, and treating people with a reasonably.

Go Jonny, go,go, you were absolutely right this evening, we do need to reduce our population. Thought the young woman quite wet, she wasn't looking at the real problem, no resources left for us to use.

Why won't people realise there are too many of us in this world. ; )

Goose stepping, race realist posters aside (and they could be replaced by prunes as described above) tonight was an excellent programme.

But the Porrit v Kendra (? ) piece really should have started with the question "Is there an upper limit to human population?" and neglected to consider migrations related to expanding population and resources being diminished. Also it could have gone outside carbon as even if that HUGE problem is solved human impacts and resource demand will cause massive problems.

What has happened to the Trade Union Movement?

A shop steward stating he would object as strongly if workers from Orkney were given the work in Lincolnshire; websites clearly stating leafleting campaigns for the BNP, yet more suggesting Unite is funding activities whilst publicly neutral; so it's really Lincolnshire jobs for Lincolnshire workers who can easily commute to the site. Only qualification a fluorescent jacket.

Come off it.

I could have done with more of Nigel Farage, mind; daft but a harmless character.

#8 Hillsideboy, yes I've been watching this problem seeth away underground for ages now. I bore my family rigid about it. I think the BBC employees are so far removed from the working man, they haven't really got a clue what's really going on. Nothing is ever talked about openly in this country or in the media these days. It's ignored to everyones cost.

I've got a very controversial idea about too many children. Young couples are reluctant to have babies here, because of the high cost of houses, and are lumbered with massive mortgages. Well how about changing child benefits. The first child you get a massive amount for, so that one partner can stay home until the child is at least five. The second child, you only get 75% and the third only 50% of child benefit. Any subsequent children you get absolutely nothing, silch! Perhaps then we would see smaller, happier, better managed families.

Look at the Childrens Society report, although perhaps biased in favour of marriage. It looks as though our kids aren't happy, and I tend to agree with that.

#5 9&11 Jaded_jean

"Just like you were in WWII - e.g Dresden yes? "

Interesting that you don't associate with the Brits ".. like YOU were in WWII" could it be that you relate more closely to Hitler? Hence you feel I paint "Hitler as darkly as possible"?

In a way I don't need to post as you shoot yourself in the foot constantly.

Ford had very dubious connections to the Nazis. The numbers of females getting higher education - no sexism there.

You seem sensitive to the "nasty" word - is that because given a chance you would engage in "social engineering" - which to most people would be better described as "mass murder"?

But you won't get the chance will you.

XENOPHOBIA AND SMOKE INHALATION

I smell smokescreen. The shock-and-awe word 'xenophobia' is in the air. What SHOULD rightly be where that smoke is, is a giant 'NO' that was weaselled away from Basic British Bloke, who is now hopping-mad; I mean, of course, the giant 'NO' of the EU referendum. So what do our sensitive government do? They wheel out the charming Mr Vas. BIG MISTAKE. In such confrontational times, the slow Vas smile, so terrifyingly reminiscent of Walt Disney's 'Ka' in the Jungle Book; though of an oily quality, is the 'wrong kind of oil' for these troubled waters, with Italians bobbing on them. And to compound the crass error, Vas applies the 'X'-word.

Well Mr Vas: X marks the spot - you have picked at it, and now it is not going to get better. Your lot have cheated Basic British Bloke out of a referendum, given Britain over to a 'bunch of foreigners' IN HIS NAME, connived at a law giving his job away, and then you tell him WITH THAT SMILE, it's legal - so lump it.

Oh dear - it was all going so well. Never mind, Tony must be ecstatic.

#12 Kashi
Education and the lack of good teachers prevents the British "working class" migrating to find work - I don't see what's wrong with working in other countries, provided you're willing to adapt and learn the language. "

Are you saying that British people should be forced to work abroad, as there isn't any work here? That would lead to even more break up of the family here, as has been reported in a Childrens Society report.

My view on it is that a lot of people actually prefer living in their own country, and that applies to other races, than just the British.

How many Brits abroad, well I heard the figure of around 15 million, let's hope they don't all come home at once! ; )

So London virtually ground to a halt today. To be honest, having lived in a region that experiences such severe weather often, I don't think London did too badly. Considering how thick and fast the snow was falling last night, there was little you could do to keep the roads open. So they manage better in Sweden, Canada or even Newcastle? And so they should, they experience that sort of weather on a regular basis. For London, it was exceptional. I'd rather TFL invested money in infrastructure that is used every day than in snowploughs that are used once a year on average.

But why does London grinding to a halt automatically mean misery for companies and lost business worth billions? The company I work for has taken the time and effort to ensure that all of its employees can work from home or from anywhere else. It is far from simple and has some complex security implications but when done well it has a number of benefits, in particular employee satisfaction and no loss of business on a day like today. Every company that relies on services (and that's a lot of them in London and the South East) could do the same.

And finally, to answer Jeremy's question this evening about what forecasters mean when they say "don't travel unless necessary" and what is meant by "essential travel", well you had the answer in your report: it depends on the person. If you are an emergency nurse, essential travel means travelling to work; if you are an office worker who can work from home, it means walking to the shops (or pub) to get something for lunch; if you are a child whose school is closed, it means walking up Hampstead Heath with your sled and going down as fast as possible!

Enjoy the snow, especially if we need to wait for another 18 years to see that much of it again!

CLICHE - CLICHE TOUCHE

What a peformance! Paxman doing his scandalised face at wee Robbie, complaining theatrically about cliche and the like. Then a sudden 'just joshing dear boy' collapse of the charade, to reassuringly cuddly - how cliche is that? Must be time for another award.

My favourite interview of the night was Jeremy with Rob McElwee! It reminded me of the old "weather reports" done by Jeremy
Source: https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HMAt8ZXqtbc
Utterly hillarious!! (The best is the weather report he does at the end (it's raining throughout the UK- "it's April, what did you expect?") Jeremy pointed out that it was annoying when a weather forecaster says "Do be sure to wrap up warm" and "essential travel!" Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!:o)

And I don't know who had more fun today in the snow today -Michael C or Caroline!

I love snow.

DYSGENIC GENE CREEP?

The closing item didn't work. As ecolizzy (#20) says, the female interviewee didn't help - high verbal fluency, but she wasn't really listening or thinking/focusing. As Hillsideboy (#8) says, one has to think in terms of different groups, and that takes one back to the IQ distribution and differential fertility. There has been an awful lot of good research on this which continues to accumulate.

Therefore, one has to ask (Newsnight) - given the critical importance of this issue for our socio-economics stability (forget growth), why interview those two and not someone like Charles Murray or Richard Lynn? Updated here.

After all, your researchers could have given this and the archived blog to Susan Watts and just let her do a piece drawing on the research covered in these links and other.

But as the Race Relations Amendment Act requires public organisations to actively promote good race relations this is very difficult. It can be done however, as in a sense, race really is secondary. What matters at root is class, where classes are groups or collectives, sustained by limitedgene flow, i.e gene barriers (here, assortive mating).

DEMENTIA

We have an ageing population - dementia is very expensive and very difficult to manage (for carers) degenerative disease. It drives carers 'nuts' (often driving them to abusive behaviour of one form or another). Its prevalence (and thus cost) is set to increase dramatically as our population continues to age.

The Government response: - more care in the family/community. What else? In the Russian constitution, progeny are required to look after their parents. It's an old Chinese tradition too. Will 'we' legislate?

SNOWED UNDER

7. CaringHumanist wrote:

"The number of non-Russians working in the retail trade is now being limited to 40% and, by 2008, that number is supposed to be zero...So whilst Russia has a government that puts it's indigenous population first, here in the UK, we have a Labour government that refuses to do so"

Great post. Really cheered me up on a cold and snowy morning.

I don't know what amused me more: your name or the claim that "Russia has a government that puts it's indigenous population first". Can I suggest you go and check what's happened to, say, male life expectancy, in Russia since the end of the Soviet era. Hopefully we can agree that increasing the length (and quality) of life is a good measure of a country's commitment to its people.

Actually, I'll save you the bother of looking the data up. This is one of my favourite articles on the subject (but there are plenty more).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100301976.html

The key points to note are:

1. Male life expectancy in Russia is 166th in the world - just above Gambia.

2. Heart-related illness kills about 3x the number of Russians as Americans or western Europeans.

3. Tuberculosis deaths are running at over 3x the level the WHO considers to be an epidemic.

4. Whilst your good friends in Russia have been passing pointless legislation to "protect" jobs in the retail sector, they've been allowing TB hospitals to run without running water (an incredible 21%), without severage (11%, but I guess you don't need much of a sewer system if you don't bother with running water), and 20% don't even have the requisite drugs.

5. Russia plans to spend an extra USD 200 billion on upgrading its military, so don't come back and say the above is due to a lack of money.

There is nothing positive to learn from Russia. If you can't come up with better examples than this, then those of us who fully support the principles of free movement of labour need not worry.

Incidentally, in the interests of full disclosure, I'm one who has benefited from the EU right of free movement by leaving the UK and setting up my own business in another EU country.

SNOWED UNDER

Q. Why have we grinded to a halt?

A. Because we've engineered a-feminised society.

12. kashibeyaz wrote:

I don't see what's wrong with working in other countries, provided you're willing to adapt and learn the language. I know of many British families who do...I believe also that there are more British passport holders living and/or working abroad than there are "foreigners" living/working here"

I've read a couple of your recent posts, and agree with them pretty much totally. You're spot on regarding Brits abroad. A survey lasy year (by the Beeb, I think), showed that 10% of British citizens live outside the UK. I'd suggest that most err towards being the more highly educated and, therefore, if we were forced to repatriate, would probably end up getting jobs at the expense of the lumpen proletariat currently whingeing outside places like the Total plant.

INSIDIOUS LIBERAL-DEMOCRATIC ANARCHISM

JayPee28bpr (#30) "I don't know what amused me more: your name or the claim that "Russia has a government that puts it's indigenous population first". Can I suggest you go and check what's happened to, say, male life expectancy, in Russia since the end of the Soviet era. Hopefully we can agree that increasing the length (and quality) of life is a good measure of a country's commitment to its people."

But it wasn't the Russians that did this was it, it was 'the Americans' - see Jeffrey Sachs and the Chicago Boys. If one looks into what happened to the Soviet system it went remarkably like the regime we saw changed in Iraq (and in the Statism of the UK in the 70s). We too now have a low indigenous birth rate, we too have too much drinking, we too have dysfunctional families - we too have Liberal-Democratic 'freedom' (anarchism).

19. kashibeyaz wrote:

"What has happened to the Trade Union Movement?...
so it's really Lincolnshire jobs for Lincolnshire workers who can easily commute to the site. Only qualification a fluorescent jacket."

Yes, I'm generally supportive of Unions. They ought to be able to redress what is, in general, an imbalanced relationship between employer and employee. What we're seeing at Total, though, is simply embarrassing. It appears the "labour movement" which, for long periods of its history has eloquently expressed the need for international solidarity, argued passionately that the nation state is a creation of capitalism's elite to divide workers via artificial borders/boundaries, is now reduced to being a mouthpiece for luddite nationalists (even xenophobes). History shows that trade unionists in the past have made huge personal sacrifices for the greater international good, eg Lancashire mill workers refusing to work slave-produced cotton during the American Civil War.

However, I don't think the Labour Party has actually realised the real damage this is going to cause them. Unite, the union behind the Total embarrassment, is probably the largest financial supporter of Labour. It is seen as having a major logistical role to play at the next election. It is, however, now firmly linked to the BNP. Also, GB's "British jobs for British workers" quote is straight out of the BNP playbook. "Dave" can now portray Labour as extremist, just what he needs in nice, tolerant, suburban marginals that have been put off the Conservatives in the last three elections because of their perceived extremism.

This has all the makings of "Winter of Discontent II", not because we'll have bodies piling up in the street, but simply because the unions, as in 1979, are too stupid to realise where their longer-term interests lie. Being a front organisation for BNP/UKIP is not a viable strategy to make them attractive partners for anyone.

33. JadedJean

Stop making excuses for the appalling regimes that have ruled Russia. They've needed no help to destroy their own country.

The social problems you note, eg drinking, are indeed a problem in the West. However, the scale of the problem in Russia is several times worse than we experience, with far less government interest in tacking it. If you want to see the worst example, look at the difference in policy towards HIV/AIDS in Europe/USA versus Russia.

THE CASE OF I'M ALL RIGHT JAYPEE28BPR?

JayPee28bpr (#30) "Incidentally, in the interests of full disclosure, I'm one who has benefited from the EU right of free movement by leaving the UK and setting up my own business in another EU country."

JayPee28bpr (#32) "A survey lasy year (by the Beeb, I think), showed that 10% of British citizens live outside the UK. I'd suggest that most err towards being the more highly educated and, therefore, if we were forced to repatriate, would probably end up getting jobs at the expense of the lumpen proletariat currently whingeing outside places like the Total plant."

A heads-up (well-educated) JayPee28bpr - people can't change the way they are made as it's genes that make them. The 'lumpen proletariat' is indeed growing, and it is finding it will find it harder and harder to find somethng to do. Private sector employers will always put profits before people where labour is in plentiful supply and the law is on their side. Relatively uneducable people do breed faster, and like children (which cognitively/behaviourally they are very akin to), they are prone to whinge. Don't they need to be better managed/cared for (governed)?

JayPee28bpr (#35) "Stop making excuses for the appalling regimes that have ruled Russia. They've needed no help to destroy their own country."

China's split with the USSR was over the latter's revisionist abanonment of Stalinism (Socialism in One Country) in the early 1950s. Today, China is Stalinsit along with N Korea, and the CIS, along with the SCO, is trying to claw back some of its past. Think about how the Soviet generation which grew up believing that predatory entrepreneurism was a crime aganst the people felt when they saw their Liberal-Democratic me-first children no longer treated as criminals, but as 'winners'. Then look at the 'winners' on Wall Street and in The City and see who they win at the expense of.

It says it all to those who look objectively at the history rather than just self-interest.
Vilification of the welfare state (Socialism in One Country/National Socialism/The Public Sector's/Civil Services's 'inefficienices - see undermining of the USSR for the same techques) is the way that the Liberal-Democracies have been spreading free-market anarcho-capitalism whereby a few profit whilst the majority absorb their risk. It's done by lies, deception and censorship/censure of inconvenient truths about human diversity in favour of the myth of equality of opportunity.

It's very cleverly done by narcissistic 'snakes in suits' who care about their own interests but about not those of others.

36. JadedJean

"people can't change the way they are made as it's genes that make them"

Rubbish! Just another excuse for inadequate upbringing/education. A big part of the reason we have an underclass is that unerperformers are encouraged to view themselves as "victims", who cannot improve their position in life.

The challenge is to find a way of substituting for unambitious parents (even worse, non-existent ones especially non-existent fathers) to provide the necessary role models and "drive". Genes have nothing to do with it. I thought that idea died along with Adolf.

#16 Minatour500
"Otherwise, is the alternative future to be a world of proletariat vagabonds and ruthlessly capitalist corporations run by bourgeoise billionnaires ? If this is an economy I am supposed to want, I would rather be poor, for without a place to lay my hat, I am poor. Whats the point of consumerism if I havn't got anywhere to put the products I can buy at ever cheaper rates"

I agree with you, I can see the "workers" of the world being totally exploited. It's not easy if you are older, or have an established family in one country, to be told go off and work in another. Ok if you're young and footlose and fancy free, but try dragging kids around the world with you. And some people are poor, badly educated, and frightened to do things, so we don't support them anymore, we just say hard luck!

The EU did not invent "right of free movement". There has been free movement within Europe since time immemorial. All the EU did was tie the free movement up a mountain of legal complications.

does the govt understand when the economy contracts by 50% that the migrant worker levels cannot be maintained at pre crunch levels? yet gordon seems to want an ever increasing empire of migrant workers? every sector is de leveraging but migrant worker levels must stay the same or increase?

given it cost them more to bring in the foreign workers and house them in a boat it does look like discrimination against uk workers when they were not offered the chance to apply for the jobs? would there be a fuss if locals could apply for jobs? Who benefits by blocking them?

the basic 'let the market decide' mode the govt still [even after the crunch] loves has proven to lead to disaster for the country. Why should it lead to justice and harmony in employment when it hasn't lead to justice and harmony and efficiency anywhere else? why do they believe, despite the evidence, the market is the best arbiter? why is the failed 'market is best' hallucination enshrined in laws?

the guardian class seems to have some destructive false beliefs which they have enshrined in laws?

laws should not be used to enshrine 'the market' but justice.

#37 erratum "who care about their own interests but about not those of others."

"who care about their own interests but not about those of others."

37. JadedJean

"China is Stalinsit along with N Korea"

Now I know you haven't got a clue what you're on about. You won't find two more different countries than these. One is increasingly outward-looking, the other is as close to a "hermit kingdom" as you'll find. And N Korea is undoubtedly a quasi-monarchy. As for China, have you ever been there? It puts Anglo-American capitalism to shame. We'd never get away with the capitalist excesses that Chinese "entrepreneurs" do. Incidentally, they're allowed to be members of the Communist Party now. Hardly Stalinist!

#15; In what era would you have preferred to live in Russia, then?
The era of Gorbachev or Kruschev or Stalin or Lenin or Kerensky (no, probably not), Tsar Nicholas, Ivan the Terrible, Alexsandr Nevsky?

OR the current regime of Putin the ex- KGB Karate Kid and his glove puppet Medvedev.

The people of Russia have had a hellish time and Putin plays the nationalist card at every opportunity in an attempt to keep them diverted and subdued; he will not , however, ultimately prevail.

#23; I did not say that British workers should be forced to work abroad.

What I am saying is that our education system and the lack of good teachers has failed many of them by not providing/teaching the skills necessary to work abroad, eg appreciation of other countries' cultures and ultimately the competence in one or more foreign language.

And here's a point for the little Englanders; most "foreign" countries teach "English" not because they all want to equip themselves to work here, but because it is the universal language, just as Latin was before. And the "English" taught in the main is the American form.Sorry to burst your bubble.
Oh dear, someone's done that already.

Lack of education/good teachers/wider perspective evidenced by High Visibility Man interviewed last night talking of "Eye - ties"; straight out of a 1948 British war film starring John Mills. This lack of progress is quite shocking.

Quoting JadedJean:-

"people can't change the way they are made as it's genes that make them"

JayPee28bpr (#38)
"Rubbish! Just another excuse for inadequate upbringing/education."

Nope, you supply the empirical evidence for that please (note: you won't find any, as I wouldn't have said it otherwise). Note that you probably didn't even consider that?

The above was a brief summary of the empirical evidence as we now know it. All we can do is prevent further damage - hence the emphasis on Child Protection, but that's not the same as improving ability.

This dramatically flies in the face of so much of what's taken for granted by educatinalists and those in the helping professions (except for those long in the tooth), that it is worth saying over and over again in these (unwittingly) Lysenkoist times. This essentially corrrupted 'Marxist' ideology (Marx respected Darwin) suits plutocratic narcissistis well as they can always blame the underclass on failure to take opportunities and can get 'the people' to invest in environmental projects like HeadStart, SureStart, Aiming High, SEAL etc, none of which work. It will be interesting to see what Obama does with these failed projects as he must now know this.

TRUTH AND HUMILIATION (#41)

James G Brown is to governance, what Nancy Dell'Olio is to property law.

He is SO wrapped up in childish striving: to be better than the hated Blair, to be the greatest PM since time began, to be the man who KNEW - and saved the World, that he will always be a liability to himself, his party and (what's left to govern) of this country. His grasp of basic bloke's (animal) relationship with 'his territory' - be it to hunt over with his mates, or nihilistically defend for no reason other than IT IS HIS, is lost on James G (and a mystery to Mandy, who doesn't identify that strongly with BB).

We are enacting a Greek Tragedy in which, who knows, even the Greeks might soon play a part. We are probably beyond help now, but it might still work: SPOIL PARTY GAMES.

I'll get me passport.

#39; "...but try dragging kids around the world with you". Says a lot about your attitude to children (or do you mean small goats?) and your "world" perspective, methinks.

All the children I know who have lived abroad because of their parent's/ parents' work have had tremendously rich experiences and show a more mature outlook on life relative to their UK peers.

Get this; Britain, even at the apex of the bubble, was not as brilliant a place to live as some people would have us believe, certainly not to the extent of stopping "foreigners" coming to spoil the idyll.

Can Britain improve? Of course it can, but not by turning inwards.

You can reach "the world" in 50 minutes by plane from Manchester to Amsterdam, ecolizzy: or if that's too non-eco for you, use Eurostar.

If you are a goatherd, however, you might find it a bit more difficult. Not as difficult as herding cats, though. Stick with the kids.

#44 Kashi

"What I am saying is that our education system and the lack of good teachers has failed many of them by not providing/teaching the skills necessary to work abroad, eg appreciation of other countries' cultures and ultimately the competence in one or more foreign language."

Couldn't agree more, but how do you fit all this in to the governments national curriculum?


And here's a point for the little Englanders; most "foreign" countries teach "English" not because they all want to equip themselves to work here, but because it is the universal language, just as Latin was before. And the "English" taught in the main is the American form.Sorry to burst your bubble.
Oh dear, someone's done that already.

Again totally agree with you. I think one of the reasons the British don't speak other languages is just exactly so, everybody does speak english around the world.

Perhaps as we are an island race that is our mentallity. Look at Vanuatu https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5169448.stm They are the happiest people on earth.

JayPee28bpr (#37) "Now I know you haven't got a clue what you're on about"

Repeat after me: "I know you haven't got a clue what you're on about" contains the verb of propositional attitude KNOW which like belief, renders any such constructions non-truth functional, and just tells one something about the constructors state of awareness, not about what is true".

The PRC constitution here and here

N Korea is technically still at war with a Liberal-Democracy across its border.

PROGRESS WHAT PROGRESS? (#44)

"This lack of progress is quite shocking."

The book is writing itself: "The decline and fall of the Global Empire".

In one or two isolated places on the planet, sustainable groups still exist. As far as I can gather, their continuance depends on ABSENCE of progress. They endure. They have seen off all the 'Great Civilisations'. I strongly suspect their kids are not half-barmy, though they might have some gut worms. We have OUR worms in the head, and their turning gets tighter by the day.

45. JadedJean wrote:

"...you supply the empirical evidence for that please (note: you won't find any, as I wouldn't have said it otherwise)."

Erm, the fact that we don't still live in caves and go running after things to catch for lunch. That suggests to me that some people worked out how to do things better/ more efficiently. They then taught others who were interested in learning. Or are you saying we've all just magically had our genes transformed over time to learn this? And others' genes were similarly magically transformed to make them susceptible to being taught?

You should come and join us in the real world sometome. It's really not that scary when you get used to it.

kashibeyaz (#44) "In what era would you have preferred to live in Russia, then?
The era of Gorbachev or Kruschev or Stalin or Lenin or Kerensky (no, probably not), Tsar Nicholas, Ivan the Terrible, Alexsandr Nevsky?"

What you have got to try to grasp is that much that you and I have been fed about the USSR (and China) has been Cold War propaganda. The focus today should not be on when was the best time to live in post 1917 USSR, but why efforts to build and sustain a welfare state in the UK have been systematically undermined.

For an illustration of how vilification of foreign Command Economies (or even mixed economies) has been our constant diet, see Hayek's 'The Road To Serfdom' (if only as cartoons). This served naked capitalism well. See extreme de-regulation (anarchism) of the 90s.

49. JadedJean wrote:

"Repeat after me: "I know you haven't got a clue what you're on about" contains the verb of propositional attitude KNOW which like belief, renders any such constructions non-truth functional, and just tells one something about the constructors state of awareness, not about what is true"."

Try Imodium.

#47 Ha,ha, Kashi, I'm married to half a french man, and have visited europe extensively, I'm not as blinkered as you think I am! ; )

And I have experience of children being brought up around the world, they never settle anywhere, and have little loyalty to any country only their own gains and money! But I do think that's the way the world is going, everyone out for just themselves.

I thought Jonathan Porrit's plea that we should take world population growth more seriously would have had more weight if he had not kept trying to relate his argument to climate control and carbon footprints, which most people find difficult to relate to.

A much more powerful way of showing how urgent the need is to reduce the growth rate to as near zero as possible is to show a graph of world population over the last 2000 years, and where it is heading.

In 1900 it was 1.6 billion, and in 1999 it was 6 billion and by 2050, at current growth rate, it will be over 9 billion, and by 2100 it would be over 12 billion, which most people would agree would make life totally intollerable.

If we really have any compassion for our childrens' children, we surely need to bite the bullet now and dramatically slow down population growth. For example, if we reduced the growth rate from 0.6% per annum to 0.1%, the population in 2100 would be 7 billion and not 12 billion.

I can't believe there is anyone who would not think this is a more sensible option, and the sooner we do something about it the better it will be for future generations.

If we do nothing we should be aware that there is no future for the human race, whether we solve the problems of climate change or not.

EDUCATION NOT FAILING - FAILURE ITSELF.

Education is really schooling - herding together (like goats?) not to have inner qualities brought out, but to have outer 'necessities' (commercial) stuffed in.
Schools are institutions - they INSTITUTIONALISE - the worst state of being in which to become a competent individual. Just another fundamental of Western 'civilisation' that is fundamentally destructive.

#53 JayPee28bpr

Try playing to the gigantic goose stepper vanity first and then suggest the laxative.

For instance:

Soon we will all be crushed by the intellectual Colossus Jaded_jean and the goose steppers will sweep into Moscow, Warsaw, Paris being greeted by cheering masses etc.

Or they could lay off the booze and laxatives and re-enter the real world.

#44 kashibeyaz

Some of these posters beat their chests over the unfair treatment that Hitler gets - we "paint him as darkly as possible". Hence 99% of the world are inferior "anarchist Trotskyite" pig dogs.

So how many millions of Russians did he murder?

Would Russia be keen to have Jaded_Jean?

Would any country in the world?

Please.

NO PAIN, NO GAIN

bookhimdano (#41) "does the govt understand when the economy contracts by 50% that the migrant worker levels cannot be maintained at pre crunch levels?"

I take your point, but note that the economy has not contracted 50%, growth is calaculated relative to the last quarter, so with an average growth of 2.5% is New Labour counting on the low numercacy levels in the country to scare people into funding more bad behaviour? We are back to where we were a year or so ago are we not - a position which was 2.5% above the previous year, and so on .... back 15 years.

Are we not seeing a lot of fat painfully trimmed with ordinary people being forced to do the most trimming because the predators hae been caught short(ing)?

#55 angloscotty

I agree with what you have said here. We seem terrified of mentioning that population growth is our biggest nightmare. We do not have the resources on earth to continue as we are, but no politician will say that. As you say it all gets the collective title of "climate change" and "carbon footprints", but nothings ever explained clearly.

Just read your "Everything will change" blog very true again.

JayPee28bpr (#45)

"Erm, the fact that we don't still live in caves and go running after things to catch for lunch. That suggests to me that some people worked out how to do things better/ more efficiently. They then taught others who were interested in learning. Or are you saying we've all just magically had our genes transformed over time to learn this? And others' genes were similarly magically transformed to make them susceptible to being taught?"

More arrognat poppycock. We know it was genetic mutation and gene selection which led to changes in phenotypes like skins colour and behaviour. Behaviours are selected and reinforced by the environment just as genes were and still selected by environmental contingencies. Education and teaching is a SELECTION process.

You simply don't know what learning is. There's no magic to it, just changes in frequencies of behaviours.

"You should come and join us in the real world sometome. It's really not that scary when you get used to it."

But you don't live in the real world. You live in one of your own fabrication like so many dreamers these days.

Are you able to learn to recognise when you are wrong?

HOLOCAUST

angloscotty (#55) "A much more powerful way of showing how urgent the need is to reduce the growth rate to as near zero as possible is to show a graph of world population over the last 2000 years, and where it is heading..... can't believe there is anyone who would not think this is a more sensible option, and the sooner we do something about it the better it will be for future generations."

Try to take the scale of your misunderstanding on board, one has to think of groups. We (UK) have a TFR of about 1.88 (inflated by the high birth-rate of Muslims in the UK). Eastern European countries have TFRs in the 1.1 to 1.3 range. All of Europe is well below replacement level of 2.1. With a TFR of 1.1 a population halves in 30 years. With 1.3 it does so in 60 years. Europeans are approaching negative growth as are White Amercians. By 2050 Whites in teh USA will be a minority.

Liberal-Democracy is wiping White Europeans out and lowering world intelligence levels.

BEHAVIOUR FREQUENCY CHANGES?

JJ! Have you changed your behaviour frequencies, or are you masking your 'scent' with applied linguistic pheromones? The blogdog has ceased eating your posts! (:o)

thegangofone (#57) As attentive readers of this blog will have noted, your factual errors have been pointed out to you repeatedly, supplemented with independent, reputable sources which clearly refute what you assert, yet you persist in writing personally abusive, ad hominem, posts to this blog and show no sign of change.

Can you explain your behaviour please? In my experience such persistence despite clear corrective evidence is indicative of either below average cognitive ability and/or behaviour found on Axis II in Cluster B as defined in DSM-IV

I have been correcting what I initially took to be (sadly widely expressed) fallacious statements. The corrections should have been taken as positive contributions, not grounds for further abuse.

63. JadedJean wrote:

"Can you explain your behaviour please? In my experience such persistence despite clear corrective evidence is indicative of either below average cognitive ability and/or behaviour found on Axis II in Cluster B as defined in DSM-IV...I have been correcting what I initially took to be (sadly widely expressed) fallacious statements. The corrections should have been taken as positive contributions, not grounds for further abuse."

Imodium Instant Melts are on sale for GBP6.16 on the web site of a large, well known drugstore chain. You also get 24 frequent shopper points with the purchase.

I trust you will take this as the positive contribution that it is intended to be.

barrie (#62) I'm certainly being repetitive, but I do my best to be accurate and objective. Some of the issues do need to be driven home more widely if we're ever going to reverse what amounts to a very slow-burning but very self-destructive trend. The key drivers are, according to some of us who have looked into this in some detail, the ones I keep airing, and it's remarkable that they are all deemed politically incorrect and tend to attract such ignorant hostility when aired (seemingly from the same types too). Are these posts a good or bad in that context? I'm not sure. One of the problems with blogs is that they're not cumulative, so one can't can't rely on people looking up past posts even though there's an archive.

Most of the problems we see reported on a daily basis are, it would seem, the consequence of dysgenic trends. We will not reverse these by better teaching/training etc - note the absence to date of the promised White Paper from ETS and the failure of the LSC here to improve adult literacy and numeracy. The message everywhere is faiure, and those in the professional know this. It is always those who don't work at the coal face who think they know better. Why? Answer, because they self-centredly think others are like themselves.

JayPee28bpr (#64) No, your post is infantile and abusive.

As you clearly, like thegangofone etc, have difficulties discerning important differences, here's a link which might help you begin thinking.

Start with the audios.

jj ...note that the economy has not contracted 50%,..

the markets have fallen 50%. they were the first to deleverage. the rest of the economy through demand destruction will follow. given the short term money that financed 50% of the boom is gone never to return there is a 50% hole in the economy. which will play itself out.

i pointed this out on the boards some months ago when i posted the charts of the 1929 bear market and how we were following that pattern - it is only half played out. If it continues then there is another leg down.

the place to look to see what is really going on is the bond market [the all seeing eye] and see what they are pricing in.

all that debt is just to delay the inevitable and to not make the effects of demand destruction so dramatic. There is a reason why the markets call the uk 'finished'. gordon lthinks he can buck the markets and we all know what happened when HMG tried that last time?

in short when the economy and employment trend is down why do the govt think the migrant labour trend should go up? more financial illiteracy?

When one talks about population growth, this is the type of thing that worries me

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7865603.stm

And not from a selfish point of view, I don't want to see people starve around the world, but none of us will admit it's because there's too many people.

Isn't globilisation wonderful

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7865246.stm

I wonder how many people died because of fake drugs.

Look at the fiasco in China with the baby milk! Where there's money as the main driver in life, there will always be people prepared to exploit others.

66. JadedJean wrote:

"No, your post is infantile and abusive"

I blame it on my genetic makeup. I was just born helpful. Those born without this in their DNA often mistake it for abuse. I'm confident that genetic development is headed my way, however.

bookhimdano (#67) Thanks for the clarification, much appreciated.

JayPee28bpr (#70) "I'm confident that genetic development is headed my way"

That's possibly true, except some call that dysgenesis. It's much healthier to be self-critical as that goads one into constantly checking to see if what one believes is actually true.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE PREPARED TO EXPLOIT OTHERS (#69)

Worse than that Lizzie, the way life is configured, they are the ones who gain leadership/dominance. It should probably be rephrased: "people who feel DRIVEN to exploit others". Animal-based complex life, from puberty to apathy, is about reproduction - the rest is cerebral froth. And one terrible paradox of mankind is that haunted/driven/needy/unstable minds create the sort of things the rest admire and seek out! But the ones who can't do art, seem to do politics. We are, as I often repeat, 'a synapse too far'. An unsustainable twig on the tree, with only two options. 'Advance' in our own, current, aberrant terms, and go extinct, or return to Nature's law and potter on. The latter will almost certainly be imposed on us anyway.

Ecolizzy (#68) Another reason why it's odd/unlikely that they can survive disasters, and why it makes no ethical sense for the EU to lure Africa's most able (and given the mean low IQ is up to -2SD's below Europe's, they don't have all that many in the first place) to fill our projected dearth in medical services etc in the future (Frattini's plan).

Re 61

I was using published forecasts of world population to 2050 with a projection to 2100 if we stick with the same growth rate.
The problems of overpopulation are truly global, as is the problem of greenhouse gas production. Looking at figures for individual regions of the world is useful, but it is the total that counts.

I have seen data for the UK which suggests that population may balance out around 2050, although there is no suggestion of how this will be achieved other that the hope that people will take more responsibility, but if, as you say the FTR in this country is 1.88, we should see a slowing down in growth rate, leading to a population in 2050 of much less than the current forecast of of ca 75 billion.

I don't see the connection between liberal democracy and a reduction in world intelligence levels . If intelligence levels are indeed reduced it is much more likely to be due to poorer basic education.

angloscotty (#75) "I don't see the connection between liberal democracy and a reduction in world intelligence levels . If intelligence levels are indeed reduced it is much more likely to be due to poorer basic education."

Ok, you're wrong. Believe that if only as a possibility and see where it takes you.

This has been said before, but here it is again. The (advanced) Liberal Democracies are ALL below replacement level. Why? There are lots of possible reasons, but the thing to note is that this is empirically true whether one is looking at Japan in the East or Sweden in the West. This reduction in fertility also correlates with IQ - the higher the mean IQ of a country the lower its birth rate. It is also is the case within countries, i.e. those in the upper half of the Gaussian distribution have less children than those in the lower half. Why? because in Liberal-Democracies women are now liberated/educated if they have the ability, and this means that they start families later in their fertility period (15-45) than those who do not go into higher education and careers. This is also now believed to slowly lower mean IQ of a nation as there are will be more births in the lower half of the distribution. It is slow, but it is calculated that over 5 generations the number with IQs of 130+ will have been reduced by 60% and those of 70 and below increasd by 60%.

It's now believed from twin research etc that 50-80% of intelligence in inherited, in the West, maybe 80%. The remainder comes down to damage to the system from conception on - so, education just equips potential, it doesn't create it. People in education widely still believe that they can make 'sow's ears into silk purses' (peoiple mature with age, especially 0-21), but there is no evdience at all that we can increase intelliigence through education. It is a myth borne of them not knowing how to measure attainement and not knowing the evidence. Peole change throughout life, but this is probably genetic too, that and physical damage.

This is why those who work in these areas are so concerned. The experts believe one thing, the public something else. The public is 'behind the curve'. The public is wrong, so are many politicians. See NN archives for links.

Most people don't know this.

#65 JadedJean

One of the problems with blogs is that they're not cumulative, so one can't can't rely on people looking up past posts even though there's an archive.

My Personal Views -

Xenophobia

There is no legal defined term , this was raised by a few MP in the Lisbon Treaty (sham) debates.
It was also pointed out to Government Ministers that this term could be used to smear Anti-EU opponents.
I guess it could also be used to smear devolution'ists and separatists, after all they dislike other people from another country being involved in making their laws, even if they can be involved in making laws for the other peoples country.

What am I on about , good question , here is the non legal description of the word -

xenophobia

• noun intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.

— DERIVATIVES xenophobe noun xenophobic adjective.

Re 76

Thanks for that insight into why we can expect the national IQ to reduce over the coming generations. I was certainly one of the many who did not know this.

However, if the rate of change is so slow and takes as long as 5 generations, the effects of unchecked population growth will get us into the sort of trouble that even geniuses with IQ's >160, would not be able to help, and certainly would not want to bring any more babies into the world.

Interesting thought!

#77
LOL, very well put, hoist-petard etc.

doctormisswest (#80) Both you and RadiantPoachedEgg (#77) are irritating examples of how our recently expanded/corrupted education system has failed to teach people the crucial difference between factual knowledge and the production of argumentative statments of opinion/ignorance. Not only has provision of links to work in the relevant fields fail to reduce the frequency of your abusive nonsense, but even the suggestion that anyone else who may be interested in following up the research behind what I say by looking back through past posts in the archive, is treated with derision.

Since my posts to this blog are anonymous, and since I reference external material, how that could ever encourage a personal following is beyond me. All you do by posting his nonsense is reveal how irrational/ignorant you are.

Stick to facts and logic. If you have material which contributes conceptually or empirically, by all means do so. If not, don't post anything. I in particular don't want to hear about your states of ignorance or how you feel about having them being exposed/criticised.For example, I don't want to know whether you 'agree', as I have no idea what that means these days, and suspect you don't either!

angloscotty (#79) Herrnstein came out with the 5 generations example back in the late 1980s after a major critique of the widely misunderstood implications of promoting meritocracy in the early 70s (paradoxically, it actually enhances geographical class division). He was looking back in time, as looking at TFRs forces that given one works with completed fertility periods. In the 70s we didn't send anywhere near as many people/females into HE, so now the fear is that education, education,education, along with much higher rates of low skilled immigration, (such groups tend to have much higher TFRs) we (New Labour) has just accelerated/exacerbated the problem.

Well for goodness sake.

These "past posts in the archive" that you keep talking about - how exactly are people supposed to locate them?

Are you seriously suggesting that they read through every post for every day for however long this site has existed, until they find the one you mean?

What I was suggesting was that if you collected all your strange ideas in one place they might find favour with like-minded people (if there are any).

Carry on. Obviously nothing will stop you.

THE NATURE OF IGNORANCE

RadiantPoachedEgg (#83) Try clicking on any poster's username using a skip in increments of 10 (rather than the default 25 - see URL).

Note:- What's strange to you is just what's unfamiliar to you, we only learn what's unfamiliar (hence the title), and this only shows through changes in our behaviour.

I think what the mods need to do is develop a policy on blog harrassment. If posters are voluntarily engaged in discourse with each other that is one thing but for a poster to continually try to converse with people who clearly feel harrassed by those attempts, that is not discourse.

PERSECUTION AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION

doctormisswest (#85) "I think what the mods need to do is develop a policy on blog harrassment."

Would you like to have the 'freedom' (anarchism) to express your personal views without risk of criticism/censure (perhaps having the option to censure critics through others or charge them with harassment/persecution etc)?

Would you like the 'freedom' to make up whatever you like and have what you want to be true taken as fact by others, perhaps thereby securiing hegmonic advantage?

Would you, like thegangofone for instance, like to have the freedom to improse social fascism upon others (cf. Angela Merkel, fond of Agitprop in her youth).

Is it at all possible that you aren't picking up on something about how some people conive to secure hegemonic advantage?

doctormisswest #85 "I think what the mods need to do is develop a policy on blog harrassment."

That would not be a good idea, censure rarely is. Better that we can engage freely in discourse rather than be muzzled. If an arbitrary limit on harassment were to be imposed poor old thegangofone would almost disappear from our screens! ;-)