VAMPIRES: THE LEGENDS

hey guys thanks for this (and a new page)



oh who would of thought it so many things to do with vampires

ill have to think and get back to you on the stuff that i knew

Wow, I've never heard anything about the last bit before... weird...



If you go on wikipedia there is loads and loads of stuff, its weird how vampires seem to have always been so popular.... =D

Thanks for this, apart from BH I am also totally hooked on a series called The Blackdagger Brotherhood by JR Ward. Its a series about a band of Vampire warriors who are specially bred to protect civilian vampires against a soceity of un-dead who are intent of exterminiating the vampire race. These guys are really cool (not as cool as Mitchel though) but the main difference is that these vamps do not drink human blood because it is too weak, they need to feed from other vampires of the opposite sex. But like our Mitchell they have very fast healing powers and insides that confuse hospital staff These guys cannot go out in daylight as they will burn up. I think our BH Vamp is immortal whereas in the books they live for about a thousand years. If you love Mitchell and want to fill the painful void waiting for series 2 give em a go (But get them in order). They are really good

Haha, great typo...



Hmm, general fasination with morbidity? Lol, or maybe people just like the idea of something that can appear so normal and fit seemlessly into society yet be so completely abnormal. And most people who play vampires always seem to be good looking... which is a major plus... =D

*fascination



Ughh, I can't spell.

Not morbidity....If I am honest it is more to do with good looking guys...god I'm such a girl!in books you can imagine what they look like and my fave character now has Aidan's face. How curious!

I think people are interested in vampire mythology because they are often depicted as intelligent, charming, dark, mysterious creatures who just happen to be immortal too. You'd be hard pushed to find a more seductive alter ego than that of an angst-y vampire.

Oh it's also because it's about sex and addiction.

They new stories tend to be all about the sex or sex appeal.

Just looking at the picture at the top of the blog, I know we have said it before but I'm really going to miss Herrick..in his own words....it's mental

I heard as well that sometimes in the old days people were buried prematurely ie they were in comas or unconscious - drs weren't what they are today! and people heard knocking or shouting from buried victims, when they dug up the poor person sometimes they had bitten through their tongues and lips which had swollen and so it looked like they had been drinking blood.

anne rice's vampires can get staked and look at crucifixes. They never eat or drink though (i think, if I remember correctly - long time since I read the books).

and some of the really old ones could tolerate sunlight as well, like dracula. and Mitchell!

I agree with vampfan (tho I don't see why I should! lol) - Herrick looks fabulous in your pic at the top. He really was wonderful.

Why are vampires so popular? Because, cynical as it is, its also true - sex sells lol. Thanks for this page Barry and good to know you escaped your skins/mcfly/squirty cream and strawberries prison lol



And well done on the research :-) Go on then clever clogs...do you know some of the superstitions people had about how a person would become a vampire? If you get 1 you can have a gold star, 3 a smiley face and 5 well if you can get 5 you can have a great big cake and we'll all be very impressed (but you arent allowed to use google or wikipedia lol)

And yes I'll miss Herrick so much :-(

I just went and looked at the other blog that, ahem, er, er, that superOchre and I were conversing on earlier, in the hope that none of the regular bloggers had come on after and discovered our idiocy. Unfortunately you were all there after us so everybody knows!!! Lol x 100 tho, it was so funny afterwards, I forgive you vampfan, I've been sniggering for the rest of the day!

*whispers* - really sorry Barry

don't you think as well that most vampires are handsome/mysterious/etc which also makes them very appealing to us mortals?

Aw gee shucks brookes you big softy.....thanks for the forgivness (is that a word?)

I remembered something else from Anne Rice as well. Gabrielle (Lestat's mum - also a vampire) tells how she once woke up with the body of a man in her hands who she had throttled while asleep, rand which she had no recollection of doing. I think they decided that it was some sort of protection built in to vampires to look after them while they slept, that they can defend themselves without waking.

lol vamp, i must be some sort of Seth relation to be that gullible eh!

no, but forgiveness is definitely a word. ;)

I have never laughed so much on a forum, blog thingy so much in my life as I have with all you lot. I hate you, you are giving me laughter lines!



hey brookes.. ahem..

I'll be back in a bit, keep talking

hi super! lol snigger snigger be back in a little while

Anne Rice's vamps can't have sex. Just thought I'd throw that random info in for everyone.

OK now I'm curious , why can't they have sex...what's missing?

lack of blood to their bits I'm assuming. No hang on.. ok can't continue this without going graphic so I won't.

Don't worry...I got it. How inconvenient.

Well no (that was my hang on bit) they can do something but they can't do anything with it iyswim.



Why am I typing this? Why do I know this more to the point.

You know it cos you are like me......not getting out enough! More worrying is how do I think I know what you didn't write......what??

You know what I did wonder that lol but didnt like to ask cos it may have implied id put a lot of thought into Mitchell having sex etc but dont really see how it would work lol although we did decide that he had blood in his veins didnt we? After he cut his arm for Lauren etc...

I read this stuff as a teen and have never re-read it so I'm amazed at how much I remember yet I can't remember my 12 times tables.

Anyway, best not to think about Mitchell having sex etc. I am trying to concentrate on breathing ..can't do both. I really must try to get a life, this is getting ridiculous....when's series two?

yeah, I remember Lestat talking about his "equipment" so to speak. wont say any more for fear of the mods!

also, VanHelsey pointed out about the mentors ie Herrick/Mitchell, Mitchell/Lauren. I think Anne Rice touched on something along those lines as well didnt she? Lestat knew nothing of vampires because the one who made him (Magnus I think) was mad and topped himself as soon as he had made Lestat

but I think they were supposed to have mentors. he became Louis's mentor, and Marius who Lestat searched for becames his own(Lestat's). and I think Marius had also been Armand's. Am I right? it's so long ago that I read them

and going back to their, you know, "special place"!!(as Janey would say) they cant mak babies. presumably cos their dead! so maybe that's why their "special places" dont work!!

For me that was the most important part, the fact that they had mentors. Whether they hated them or not so I liked Herrick for that and why I really, really dislike Mitch.



And that type of r/ship was fascinating to read.



Their special places are more than not being able to make babies I think. Is the normal feeling gone? Can't recall.

cant remember, I think the feelings they would have had re: their special places have been replaced by the feelings they get from feeding on blood, it gives them all the same pleasures.

I can't dislike Mitchell however hard I try, but I do feel sorry for Lauren. She's grown on me, didn't like her at all to begin with.

sorry to go back to vampires special bits, but I'm guessing that as well as the equipment not working and being taken over by blood lust instead, presumably because they're dead they're bodies cant make the special fluid needed to carry what makes babies in!! er, do you understand me?

yeah I do lol.

I'd hoped we all got that from my first post.



Lauren is my favourite character. And I don't care what anyone says.

Lol you lot honestly! Janeys line about the special did make me laugh lol and re there "special places" lol if only it was possible to roll your eyes online...anyway no they cant have kids because theres nothing...alive...I seriously sodding mods honestly can we not have this discussion on the forum lol its very hard to find words that wont be classed as being offensive!



But the long and short of it - they cant have babies but i think they can erm well practice lol I guess it all comes down to the supernatural - its not science is it really otherwise they wouldnt even exist - but i do agree that i think they get a similar feeling from the blood...After all its very similar - it all comes down to reproducing at the end of the day - its just that romantic lol but humans have sexual desire purely because it makes us reproduce - vampires have the desire for blood because thats how they reproduce and keep the species going. So I dont see why it wouldnt be a similar feeling really - makes sense.



Jesus I need a life lol.

right enough of that, I would like to ask why vampires can't cross thresholds unless they are invited in. does anyone know?

damn wrote proper explanation for that and it didnt sodding work hang on ill write it again lol

lol eagle! vanhelsey thinks it may be to do with devils or something?

OK so its been blown a bit out of proportion like they all do lol but back when people were really worried about vampires - when a member of the family died they believed if they became a vamipre theyd come and attack their family first but could only enter the house the way their body left so theyd either pass the body out of a window to make it harder or if they were really worried lol theyd knock out a bit of the wall and pass the body through and then brick it back up again - hence vampires could never enter a house through the door - think thats where it all comes from.



Sorry me mum rang lol

Well I assume so :-S its a bit different in Being Human - what with them not being able to cross any thresholds and I have to say I like it :-) works well for the show - Im quite up to speed on vampire lore (i think lol) but not so much the books/films etc so not sure how much this has been used in any others? its an interesting concept though...

that seems like alot of hard work!!

my hubby heard it may be a religious thing as well, the devil cannot enter anywhere unless invited in, so I suppose that would also be associated with vampires, I mean Dracula is quite demonic isnt he?

has anyone seen salem's lot? good grief, didnt realise til now how much vampire stuff I had seen!! I'm not madly obsessed with vampire culture either(or wasnt until now!)

In salems lot they definitely had to be invited in, I remember a child one knocking at the window but his friend wouldnt open it and he couldnt get in.

I like it too. it's nice to think if you had Seth or Herrick on ur heels that you'd be safe inside your front door!

Yeah well Im not much cop when it comes to the devil lol by no means an expert but Im guessing thats where the vampires not being able to cross the threshold thing comes from...yeah it seems like a lot of hard work but hey if its that or you and your family being murdered in your sleep...well whats a couple of bricks hey? lol

I like the not being able to cross running water thing too - not sure if theyre using that in Being Human but Ive just got this thing in my head where someone up the road is washing their car and you know how you get like a mini stream down the edge of the road lol dunno how he'd explain why he walks all the way down the road so he can cross over and walk all the way back up just cos he wants to get to the pub across the road lol

lol!! wasnt that the werewolves though, or the vampires as well?

how would they ever get across the Clifton suspension bridge?? isnt it just down the road from their house?

and what if they fancied a trip into wales?!!

Lol I was wondering about bridges though dunno if its just litterally stepping over it - like if Mitchell tries to jump over a stream or something? Dunno google it lol. Yeah Werewolves cant in werewolf state but George could normally its like Mitchell said though - he doesnt get days off like George - its always

salt was supposed to have magical properties, I suppose cause it was quite & important expensive thing.



Medieval people used to draw a line of salt accross their threshold to stop bad spirits crossing it.



I've also seen a terrible 70s version of Dracula/Nosferatu where if a circle of salt was drawn around a vampire he couldnt cross the circle

& I thought it was the devil who couldn't walk in the same direction as flowing water which is why oriental bridges are made in this sort of shape



-----¬_____ like a zig zag (you get the gist - its tricky to demonstrate with typing)

oh poo it didnt work ____|-----

Buried alive: In 19th-century Europe there was so much anecdotal evidence that living people were mistakenly declared dead that cadavers were laid out in “hospitals for the dead” while attendants awaited signs of putrefaction

that is fascinating oh_suzi, I never heard that.

where have you been lately?

and if you spill salt aren't you supposed to throw a pinch of it over your shoulder, so it gets the Devil in the eye?

can you describe the bridge again?

when i said w bhere have you been I just meant you haven't been on the blog lately!! I just read what I wrote and it sounds a bit rude, i didnt mean that at all!

In the late 1700s New Orleans began burying their dead in overground tombs. New Orleans is below sea level & when they buried their dead, because of the waterlogged earth their bodies/coffins would be forced back to the surface even when weighted down with bricks.

In 1787 & 1788 there was plagues & disease made even more wide spread by the exposed bodies. Hence why they started to use overground tombs & why its a place synonymous with zombies & people coming back from the dead.

bonjour brookesiejennkins & all I weaned myself off BH a bit. I like reading everyones posts once or twice a week & waiting for the next wee blog instalment - but its not the same without a new episode to get madly excited about.



are you taking the pee out of me for my rubbish bridge depiction or did you genuinely want me to explain again

that is really interesting oh_suzi. those real southern states of USA are often associated with stuff like that, the bayous are supposed to be haunted by the souls of the dead or something aren't they? and its close to the caribbean etc which is an area often associated with voodoo, like in live and let die

no I want you to explain! I dont get the zigzag thing, did they build them so that you have to walk up and downstream to cross them?

yeah to the salt thing but it has to be your left one lol

This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

(so you cant just walk straight across you have to walk with the direction of the water)

hello people how are we today have you recovered from your little episode this morning brooke and super

I just saw it yeah thats cool!

and the salt thing, it has to be right hand over left shoulder, I think?

https://www.penick.net/digging/images/2007_10_09%20Chicago%20Botanic%20Garden/Japanese%20Garden/37%20Zigzag%20bridge.JPG

I'm off in a minute, the laptops behaving strangely - well it is working overtime!! it's behaving like eagle's! lol

bye folks see you soon

hi katy, and bye katy! lol, yes super and me really outdid ourselves this morning!!

bye brooke

oh and in Anne rice they dont actually have any "special place"

everyone just left me on the forum and now theres noone on here whats happening with the world

I've heard about the water thing before, I read it somewhere... can't remember where...



Going backwards a bit, I can't find exactly who was talking about it but whoever was what is Salem's Lot and what is it about? I've heard its a book and film or something but I don't know what its about... but I'm thinking of getting it from a library, is it worth it?

what it just falls off? lol sory cracked myself up with that lol

I think I may have just missed something, but wha?

i dont no youd have to ask anne rice eagle

What about female vampires? How odd - well that obviously didnt happen to Mitchell lol very odd :-S

thats just one theory others say that when becoming a vampire that you become a very sexual being that sex fuels you so its your opinion on that i suppose



and i think that anne rice didnt want sex to be a major roll in her books

Though if you've ever read Tales of the Body Thief sex comes up quite a lot. But I guess that would be because its mainly about Lestat's take on humanity... so it doesn't really have much to do with vampires.

Yeah whereas Being Human use it lol like i said sex sells - to be fair though they only had 3 sex scenes in whole first series but then theyve got Mitchell who's just pure sex the whole time lol

very true eagle very true

sorry this has nothing to do with this but ive just had an email telling me that my copy of twilight will has been sent so yeay



bet i still get it on monday though

Loll... very true though...



But I think all the vampires in Being Human are pretty amazing... Herrick and Seth.... i'm going to miss them so much.

I keep meaning to order Twilight, though I haven't done it yet because i'm lazy... and I thought it was okay... I just want all the extras really.

:-( think if it came down to it though itd still have to be Tovey though wouldnt it lol yay budgie back on...makes me laugh he wears the same shirt as he wears as George! That green checked one and in the first series on the stag do - theyre all in t shirts with their names on and Budgie was the only one who had a cardy over his lol bless him

Just realised as well is the guy who plays deano the extra guy in horne and corden?

wheres everyone gone - no one on here no one on the forum...

im still on both

Oh and everyone who was saying Russell was a better dancer than Aidan obviously you havent seen him in Gavin and Stacey...lol funniest thing ive seen in a long long time! :-D

OH must be computer bein odd lol

ok stuff about vampires oh i cant think



there some thing that night watchmen thing where they used to berry the dead with string atached to there feet which was then atached to a bell so if anyone was still alive the bell would ring



but thats not really to do with vampires

thats sring

or even string

oh just ignore me

have you gone eagle and twilight

During decomposition, areas of the body where heavy amounts of bacteria are known to gather have the tendency to bloat severely, notably the mouth, stomach and yes, even the genitalia, where the effects often startle the unprepared. Not only does the penis swell to a size that would make John Holmes feel inadequate, but the testicles have been known to bloat into softballs.