Will you give up your UK dreams?

Isn't funny how the biggest number of people who are actually coming to the UK are from the EU but the cap is being put on the non EU group?Address the EU immigration first if you really want to address the immigration issue.The people who come from non eu countries already have to meet a tough eligibility criteria before they are granted any visas.The borders are porous from within the EU.

The problem with UK immigration policy (under both Tory and Labour - and now under the LibCon coalition, perhaps) is that it is designed to admit the wrong sorts of people, and to exclude those who would contribute positively to the economy and society. This is precisely why it ended up with possibly the highest concentration of violent jihadists in the Western world. And the solution? You guessed it: limit the numbers of precisely the kind of people the country needs.

Will you give up your UK dreams?
the answer is YES, but this won't stop people from dreaming, the result of the caps and other tight immigration rules will be that either people will turn their back on UK and find other destinations like Asian countries, or south american countries or they will use their talents to develop their countries in all cases we have a global economy and as long as goods move then people will be moving. either in UK or other countries.

the issue is not really non-eu migration,the problem to address is migration from former Eastern european countries.EU migration needs to be managed as well or does a racial element exist in trying to stop only non-eu labour?

Give up UK dream? There wasnt one in the first place. I reckon politicians in the UK as dull as their peers elsewhere in western europe, witless and lacking in real ideas have, as in the past, found a fall guy in immigration. First it was point based system. Then, they thought 'Hang on a minute, voters seem to like it, why dont we make a show of it'. And that's what the cap on immigration sounds like. The new government is making a show of strength on immigration rather than device a creative plan that would stimulate the UK economy. If we are to be fair to immigration, it has nothing to do with the economic melt down or huge government deficits. Uncontrolled welfarism, crazy public sector spending and a gushing gravy train the the banking sector got the UK economy to the brink.
I think the cap on immigration will benefit Africans in the long run. Many young, skilled Africans will for once realise Europe is no paradise and start thinking of ploughing into the local economy the billions of pounds wasted yearly on UK visa fees, flight tickets, and of course heavy income taxes levied on wages by UK government. I dont think there is a UK dream when you measure what these people from outside the UK spend in getting to this island only to live in penury for the rest of their stay in the country. Many of them return home almost worst off than when they left their so-called third-world countries.
While many migrants from outside the EU are in search of a better life in the UK, majority of them are in fact fleeing from the poor quality of life at home, for some they can't stand the rot in public amenities. Many too run because of the terrible, brutal governments in their home countrieS.

Putting a cap on immigration is the most ignorant thing to do in the UK. It is all about politics because we all know that non-EU immigrants are very few when compared to EU migrants. The truth here is that the UK economy is set to suffer with very large proportion of unskilled labour force. Ask any young british today what they want as a career and you will be surprised that 80% wants to be a celebrity. At the end of the day unskilled workers will be made to do the work of the skilled workers and this will have significant effect on the economy on the long run. I think the great depression of 1930s is about to be reborn in 2010!

I always have diffrent opinion anytime this kind of comments arise. African people especially their rulers should PLEASE hasten up in developing their land,Time has come for them to put a stop in loosing their skilfull sons/daughters to the outside world,The rulers of Africa should stop making us to be looked down on by the western people as if we were not GOD"s creature.Agree with me 100% that this {rulers} if they had done what they ought to do,Those skills helping the so-called UK and others to grow their economies and develope their land will also work in Africa,UK is not a heaven and must never be.I'm sick and tired of all this ridicules everytime.why African cannot rise up and use their GOD given resources to build their place??.Home is the best Africans incase we forgot,Lets return home,stay home,live in our soil and put our skills together to develope Africa because everyone comes from Africa,i quote Bishop Desmond Tutu.

WHY SHOULD ANYONE WANTS TO MIGRATE TO THE UK ANYWAY? WITH ALL THE HARSH STANDARD OF LIVING.I MEAN THE TAXES AND OTHER BILLS YOU HAVE TO PAY. PERSONALLY I PREFER LIVING IN MY COUNTRY WHERE I HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY THAN SLAVING MYSELF IN A COUNTRY WHERE I AM NOT EVEN WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I do not have any UK dreams and find it difficult to understand those who have. They do not know what they are letting themselves into (modern slavery), nor do i understand the Brits, they complain a lot about "immigrants" coming to take their jobs, clog the NHIS etc. however they are not willing to do the jobs that the migrants do, and the migrants do pay for the services the get from the NHIS through the taxes they pay weekly. The migrants are the ones keeping the system from grinding to a halt. as far as i am concerned a few days for holidays, a conference etc is enough. let them make if difficult so my fellow countrymen will be forced to stay in Ghana and build their own country.

The cap is to stop black skinned from entering. We all know the people that constitute the biggest migrants in the UK. Definitely not Africans. But with this policy, the few Africans are sure to be constrained. Time for us to make things work in our continent and decide who to do business with as well is now.By the way, who is still dreaming of living in a country where he is not wanted or regarded? Perhaps those who have never been there!

Hahahaaaaaaaa, there is no Dream here in the UK for any non-white.
UK is now on her knees and things can only get worse.

Immigranst work ahrd to drive this country and less of them means we are finished. We live on past glories. Just like the England team, we over hype our economy and life here in the Uk.

Most African countries can now compare with the UK and will sooon be a better place.

The Empire is finished and UK is no force anymore.

China and Botwana, Ghana is the place to be.

Seriously, I do wish Britain would cut the number further to say 80%. That way Britain would stop getting highly skilled but under paid labor from third world countries. Imagine doctors trained in foreign countries working as nurses and lab technicians in Britain; or university lecturers downgrading to high school and community college teaching job...

No doubt, Britain which was built on the backbone of cheap labor import from "colonies" is saturated so I think it is high time British young folks get off their butt and start working in British old people's homes and do the shitty jobs they leave for foreigners to do.

On the flip side; the foreign countries from where these skilled workers are poached should be happy - they are getting badly needed break. They need to keep their skilled citizens at home to help develop their country. By the way; with conservatives (usually anti immigration party) in power, it is expected of them to ratchet up anti immigration agenda. Of course, there's always China (and rest Asia) were the economic pasture is much greener.

Having finished my first degree in Africa, my masters in Canada and still strugling to hold a good jod here, i will never advise any skilled worker to leave their home country to UK or anywhere else. Stay home, if there is something called UK or American dream, there is an African dream as well.

I agree with many forumers who say that the majority of immigration is from the EU and not non-eu countries.

I couldnt actually believe that the cap will later on involve international students as well? This must be a joke right? Most universities here in the UK survive on the huge fees paid by international students. Cutting down the numbers of foreign students will hit hard the finances of higher education institutions and ultimately the economy.

Whilst Canada and the USA entice international students, the UK is rather attempting to cut back on them. These leaders are not abreast with current goings on in the international skill force at all.

I have lived here in the UK for a few years and I will leave this year to return to my country Ghana. Armed with a masters degree and work experience, I will help build my country, albeit there will be challenges.

Gone are the days to have such dreams,There are more better life to live in Africa than anywhere in the world,Africa is a place where people welcome each other no matter the colors of skin,Africa is a land where love abounds so,I've never seen anyone who sees burning fire and ran to it.UK dream is down and out as their dream team or call it any name are out of the world cup.Boasting brings shame especially when one boast in his/her own power so,their immigration laws shall remain with them over there,every one has a home and together they can build it,lets allow the UK's to park those dirty stuffs in their house-sholds by themselves and eat the pounds only themselves too.Since they dn't wana live in peace with all men let it be.Africa must survive because life is not own by humans,glory be to God,No one is better than others no matter if it is in the UK or wherever.Africans who understand, please lets go back home because {YES WE CAN} develop our continent with the bunch of talents given to us by THE CREATOR if only we can get rid of corruptions in the government of Africa.

Interesting points raised here. It is a fact that the current rules for non-EU people are painful, it's no easy feat getting past the checks and sometime obtuse paperwork; process and people. In comparison to EU immigrants who with a flash of an ID or passport can enter the country, become employed or enjoy state benefits I really wonder who the biggest immigration concern is. Other contributors have pointed to the racial undertone of this approach and as a pragmatist I'd like to think in this day and age this is not true but the measures imposed send a different message. It is a fact that the universities in the UK benefit from the high tuition fees foreign students pay; the person on the street enjoys the benefits provided by the hard-earned tax non-EU people pay (coincidentally non-EU people cannot get state assistance of any sort regardless of the tax paid). I dare say this global image of the UK which the gvmt is portraying has far wider implications e.g. fuelling the fires of hate instigated by those who already have issues with the UK.

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I have never thought of migrating to the UK or anywhere else in this world. Why would you want to do something like that? Kenya is a lovely lovely place and we should strive to make it better by for example keeping the con Nigerians and other West Africans out.

Just to clarify the UK cannot put a cap on EU immigrants. Under Masstreact treaty that created the single market, EU countries signed upto the free movements of goods, services and labour between member states. It can of course disallow certian convicted criminals from entry but to place any cap would contravene both UK and EU law.

I think that actually EU immigration has been a far bigger issue for britains in recent years that non EU immigration. The arrival of hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans since 2004 has had more of a social impact that non EU immigration.

I personally wont be put off applying to go to UK. I cant see the cap being realistic in the long run, if business needs people from outside EU they will place plenty of pressure on the government to re-think in the future.

I may be mistaken but I have just realised that all the postings on this topic are from Africans. What does that mean? I am an African as well. Like in all other spheres of life, it is mainly the victims of situations and not victimisers or unconcerned who raise voices. Here we are to raise our voice about this immigration policy.

Is this cap about race or it is an attempt to safe-guard the socio-economic well-being of the Brits? I would like to believe it is both. For an African to get a visa for any European country, there are so many proofs and justifications to make including taking an HIV test. Those who have travelled before agree with me. This is perceived as discriminatory in its purest form. Ask Americans, Australians or Japanese, they are not subjected to this.

On a positive note, the cap will help reduce brain-drain from Africa but at the same time, it will take England some steps backwards in its economy. I would not end without mentioning that for most of us Africans, we think Europe is a heaven. Self-worthy is secondary to material well-being so much so that some of my African brothers and sisters allow themselves to do "sub and inhuman" things to make ends meet in Europe. I am being truthful, African as I am. I know it is about survival, but I am sure that if you can manage to legally go to England, it simply means that you can make it at home in Africa!! Awake from slumber, and you will see reason to give up your UK DREAM!!!

A better question would be 'Do you have UK dreams?'. Only if the answer is yes, then your question 'Will you give up your UK dreams?' be appropriate.
I don't have a dream at all, to work in UK. If it is ok for UK, they can block it 100% immediately and not in 2011. UK is not a Heaven.
A permanent cut of the number of people rushing into UK will benefit countries of origin of the immegrants and other countries whih are open to accept skilled immigrants. So, it is up to the UK to assess its benefit and costs.

Immigrate to the UK? NO.Once I had this dream to immigrate to the UK because of the uncertainties of life after school. I am now employed in a flagship financial institution and I wouldn't exchange this life for all visas to UK put together! To think that I would have missed these wonderful opportunities had I been successful. Yes, the UK Government should close the doors on all immigrants so that they would be forced to stay and build their mothelands. To go and slave in a foreign land and live a life of penury for the rest of their lives. In anycase, who would to exchange this Ghana of peace, genuine smiles sunshine for racist, clod British smiles?

my new favourite phrase from the UK...you're 'aving a laugh...

UK dreams? more like nightmare...

For decades people from all over the world has migrate to the UK especially people from Europe and the African continent, immigrants make a significant contribution to the economic growth of the destination country at a rate of about 10% of the gross domestic product of that developed nation
The mandatory flow issue is a reflection of this social and economic structure as we see it today, which also jeopardize the lives of thousands of its citizens, however stipulation and dening insertion in this society reflects caramelizing migration and is a backward step, but by implementing comprehensive policies for development by setting up funds and loans together with the IMF and the World Bank so that under develop nations could move forward in terms of jobs in architecture, roads, infrastructure, and even exporting factories would significantly lower the migration rate.

Placing a cap on the number of skilled immigrant workers is simply put as "expel these black Africans, Indians, Pakistani people, Bangladesh, etc" they do not look like us and can't talk like us.

But hey! welcome the Americans, Canadians, Australians, Europeans etc after-all they look like us and boy-o-boy don't we just love going to their countries for shopping and holidays? Offcourse we do!

My message - Africans, and the entire Eastern Region should sort your problems now! Governments should focus on providing security for its citizens and every other thing will be looked after by the private sector (with these skilled workers).

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So if they limit the Non-EU immigration it's not going to be a solution to the problems which are pressure on jobs, housing, health service and other public services.

The EU immigration is the one that needs to be tackled, only targeting Non-EU immigrants just shows us Non-EU people that this Conservative and Liberal government is discriminating.

What the UK government needs to know is that Non-EU states are commonwealth nations. We only signed up to this commonwealth because the UK was unable to give us back our resources taken during the colonisation era. If you want us to not enter the UK or live now (immediately) give us back our resources immediately. Every single penny you took and earned on our backs.

"Every time a skilled African person comes to the U.K. A priceless asset leaves Africa . More so than Gold and Diamonds,with out your hard working, Educated. god fearing people .Africa in many countries will never make much progress, Money and the good life for the few .has a very high price for your people.

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The biggest loophole lies within EU immigration policy. non EU citizens have to earn unrealistic points to be eligible to attain a work permit. yet the indigenous favoured EU CITIZENS do not even have basic english skills. they are the ones filling the unskilled labour demand.

as a british citizen born and breed here i have witnesed many changes over the last few years when they say they are capping imigration on none eu members, mainly african countrys .to me its all wrong they should be concentrating on eu countrys namely eastern europe countrys such as romania alabania and many of the balkan states providing unskilled labour which this country does not need ,so what took years to build up especialy in construction has been knocked down to a low rate of pay with the influx from eastern europe thats where the problem is its not africa and and countrys like china who should suffer , its eu countrys that should be capped.one final thing get the lazy british people who are on benifits to do the jobs that would solve alot of problems .african people offfer alot to the uk we owe them to as most were and are still part of the comonwealth unlike countrys in the eu .