By Jonathan Agnew BBC cricket correspondent

After all the debate about the identity of England's third spinner to tour India, the selectors have failed to deliver!

It is up to Flintoff to inform the selectors and then Duncan Fletcher will have to decide how to fill the void left by his team's most important player

We know the likely suspects are Monty Panesar, Alex Loudon and Ian Blackwell.

While Ashley Giles takes his first tentative steps towards bowling again after a hip operation, though, David Graveney has decided to take his time.

Shaun Udal will be relieved that he has been given a second opportunity after his struggle in Pakistan.

But we can expect the pitches in India to be more conducive to spin bowling - and while that will help him, it also means that he will be expected to perform this time.

There is no word yet of Andrew Flintoff's availability for the whole tour as his wife, Rachael, is due to give birth to their second child during the potentially crucial third Test.

The players now have their right to take paternity leave written into their contracts, despite the fact that it makes planning impossible, and jeopardises the team's prospects of success.

It is up to Flintoff to inform the selectors of his plans and then Duncan Fletcher will have to decide how to fill the void left by his team's most important and pivotal player.

Paul Collingwood will probably get the short straw, and play in the game having had no preparation or match practice.

Darren Gough still insists that he has an international future, but that seems a remote possibility Gough disappointment

There is only some minor tinkering to the one-day squad that, these days, is almost entirely made up of the Test players.

This is very different to the situation of five years, or so, ago when so-called one-day specialists were drafted in with mixed fortunes.

England's one-day team is still a long way from being settled, and this is an important trip for them.

Qualification for the ICC Champions Trophy is not yet guaranteed, although frankly that might be a mixed blessing.

And Fletcher really should have a clear idea of the formation of his World Cup squad by now.

Darren Gough still insists that he has an international future, but that seems a remote possibility.

Having chosen not to tour Pakistan, the official line is that Liam Plunkett and James Anderson have overtaken him.

Simon Jones's return from injury also does not help Gough's cause as I suspect he will be the man to whom England turn to bowl at the end of the innings.