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Sounds,04 Dec 2025,31 mins,

Contains some violent scenes.

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Who would you entrust your children with? How would you feel if you found out that the woman looking after your kids wasn't qualified to provide the therapy she claimed to be an expert in? In this episode, Sue Perkins and Katherine Denkinson meet Lucy and Rebecca, mysterious child therapists who moved to small towns in Ireland claiming to be therapists for disabled children. But Lucy and Rebeca weren't who they said they were, and the story behind the 'therapy' they provided was much darker than anybody could have predicted.

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