Another Tory defects to Reform

Reaction to the most high profile Tory defection to Reform yet: former Chairman of the Conservative Party, Sir Jake Berry, heads to Nigel Farage's party. Plus, as the Prime Minister and President Macron prepare to discuss a deal on small boat crossings, we ask who are the smugglers and how lucrative is their business model? We speak to people smuggling investigator Rob Lawrie. With Victoria Derbyshire.