Kimberley Motley

It is tempting to ask what almost two decades of American intervention in Afghanistan have achieved. Even now the death toll in the Afghan conflict far outstrips the losses in Syria and Yemen. But the grim statistics tell only a part of Afghanistan's story. Stephen Sackur speaks to Kimberley Motley - an American lawyer who went to Kabul in a training capacity and stayed to become a respected litigator fighting for the rights of the abused and the powerless. Does her experience give grounds for hope or despair?