Obstacles for outdoor learning

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A bill proposed by Conservative MSP Liz Smith (pictured here) which could guarantee all primary 7 pupils a week of outdoor learning has been brought back from the brink.

The Scotsman's education correspondent Catriona Stewart and BBC’s Kirsten Campbell chat with Laura about the bumps in the road it has faced and reminisce about their own school days.

Plus BBC’S environment, energy and rural affairs correspondent Kevin Keane pops by to tell Laura about why she needs to be on the lookout for ticks in her local park.

Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast, with Martin Geissler, Laura Miller and Natalie Higgins.

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