
James Martin and James Bay
Chris speaks to James Martin about the news he's leaving BBC One's Saturday Kitchen after a mammoth ten year run, and James Bay tells Chris how he's getting ready for the Brit Awards tonight. Plus, writer and comedian Paul Kerensa has your mid-week Pause for Thought.
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"I've got something loosely put together in my head" - James Bay
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Manic Street Preachers
A Design For Life
- Everything Must Go - 20th Anniversary Edition.
- Columbia.
- 16.
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Rod Stewart
Hold The Line
- Another Country.
- Capitol Records.
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Faith Hill
This Kiss
- New Hits 99 (Various Artists).
- Global Television.
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Whitesnake
Here I Go Again (Remix)
- Driving Rock (Various Artists).
- Global Records & Tapes.
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10cc
Good Morning Judge
- The Very Best Of 10cc.
- Mercury.
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The Rolling Stones
Paint It Black
- The Rolling Stones - Forty Licks.
- Abkco.
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Zara Larsson
Lush Life
- (CD Single).
- Sony Music.
- 001.
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The Police
Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic
- Ones On 1 (Radio 1 21st Birthday Albu.
- BBC.
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Adam and the Ants
Kings Of The Wild Frontier
- Adam & The Ants - Hits.
- CBS.
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The Chi‐Lites
Homely Girl
- The Best Of The Chi-Lites.
- BMG.
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Jess Glynne
Ain't Got Far To Go
- I Cry When I Laugh.
- Atlantic.
- 005.
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Gotye
Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra)
- (CD Single).
- Island.
- 1.
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Blur
Country House
- The Best Album In The World Ever!(Va).
- Virgin.
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Squeeze
Happy Days
- Cradle To The Grave.
- Virgin EMI.
- 001.
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New Order
Regret
- Glorious (Various Artists).
- Columbia.
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Adele
When We Were Young
- 25.
- XL Recordings.
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Thelma Houston
Don't Leave Me This Way
- Any Way You Like It (Expanded Edition).
- SoulMusic Records.
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Katrina and the Waves
Walking On Sunshine
- The Best Summer Ever (Various Artist.
- Virgin.
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Spandau Ballet
Lifeline
- More Greatest Hits Of 80's (Various).
- Disky.
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James Bay
Best Fake Smile (Radio 1's Big Weekend 2015)
- (CD Single).
- Virgin EMI.
- 5.
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James Bay
Hold Back The River
- Hold Back The River EP.
- Virgin EMI Records.
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Bryan Adams
Do What Ya Gotta Do
- (CD Single).
- Polydor.
- 006.
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Alison Limerick
Where Love Lives
- BMG.
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Degrees of Motion & Biti
Shine On
- (CD Single).
- FFRR.
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Travis
3 Miles High
- (CD Single).
- Red Telephone Box.
- 001.
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James
Sit Down
- True Brit (Various Artists).
- Polygram Tv.
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Blue Mink
Good Morning Freedom
- The Best Of.
- Music Club.
Pause For Thought

From comedian & writer Paul
Kerensa:
With our kids, when a telling-off is needed, we resort to the Naughty Step. They sit and think about what they’ve done, for, let me get this right – one year for every minute old they are. Or it could be the other way round. Ah yes, the 2 year old gets 2 minutes; the 5 year old 5 minutes. I’ve started misbehaving hoping to get a sit-down for 37 minutes. No luck yet.
Recently I had to improvise. Out shopping, I threatened the naughty step, and had to carry through... but there was no Naughty Step. At home it’s at the bottom of the stairs – it’s where we keep it – but in the shopping centre... well let’s just say, avoid escalators.
Wherever we do it, the rule is: say sorry, we forgive, we forget, and the slate is wiped clean. The kids get it, and we hug it out... But now, sometimes, they’ve started putting themselves there. They’ve begun to know right from wrong.
As a grown-up I still do similar: sometimes I punish myself, on my mind’s naughty step – perhaps for longer than I ought to be there. It’s no 37-minute sit-down; it’s guilt, and self-resentment. We beat ourselves up for past actions. Us adults can find it just as tough as for the kids, to say “sorry”... and, as is so often the difficult bit... mean it.
It’s frustrating too if authority figures have that inability to say sorry, and bring closure. Before forgetting there’s forgiving, before forgiving there’s what seems to be the hardest word, according to wise theologian Sir Elton of John.
I think of prayer in terms of politeness – how very English. Most prayers seem to be ‘please’, ‘thankyou’ or, crucially, ‘sorry’. At the centre of the Lord’s Prayer is “Forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us.” Poet Alexander Pope famously wrote: “To err is human, to forgive divine.” I will do wrong, but when I do, saying sorry – to God, to those I hurt – wipes the slate clean, just as by accepting others’ apologies, I can be a slate-wiper too.
So next time I put myself on that naughty step, I must remember that “sorry” takes me off it. And then I’ll run off, and try and play nicely with my brothers and sisters.
Broadcast
- Wed 24 Feb 201606:30BBC Radio 2



