Dimitris Avramopoulos, EU commissioner for Migration and Home Affairs.

Stephen Sackur talks to the EU commissioner for migration and home affairs, Dimitris Avramopoulos. Europe is still scrambling to find an effective response to the migration challenge, and every day the problem gets bigger. While the Germans build reception centres, other EU Governments focus on razor-wire fences and gunboats on the Mediterranean. So what comes first: humanity or security?