Andy Burnham & Patrick McLoughlin

John Pienaar speaks to Andy Burnham about revelations that thousands died needlessly in NHS hospitals. He also speaks to Patrick McLoughlin and Paddy Ashdown about party funding. It's the last ever evening edition of Pienaar's Politics (before we move to Sunday mornings in September) so we have a listen back to some of the famous names John has spoken to over the past few years.