Council job cuts in Hampshire and Dorset

First of all, let's get some context on the size of this cut. Hampshire is the third largest Local Authority in the country, employing 43,000 people. Teaching jobs and many schools support services are ring-fenced though - so if you take those out you're left with 14,990 people.
These redundancies then amount to around eight percent of the jobs that could possibly be cut. On the Isle of Wight, by comparison, they're looking for 535 job cuts from 2535 employees - 21 percent!
Secondly, their normal level of staff turnover is around a thousand jobs a year. That's not to say that a recruitment freeze would take care of all of these savings in eighteen months. Some of the most expensive people have been there for many, many years.
But in such a large organisation there is considerable room for manoevre - and within this cuts total are unfilled vacancies - they only exist on paper. In the last three months alone a recruitment freeze has saved half a million pounds.

Coincidentally Dorset also needs to cut 55 million from its budget. But they've asked staff to take 12 days unpaid leave for the next two years - equivalent to a 4.6 percent cut in pay, as well as a number of job cuts.
In Southampton they've asked staff to accept a 5.4 percent cut, as we've already noted on this blog. They're probably further down the line than Hampshire, with a three month consultation neccessary in all councils.
It's worth remembering that these are still proposals - we expect Southampton to make some further changes tomorrow as they face up to union criticisim that senior managers haven't been shouldering their part of the load.
I'm not trying to minimise the pain in these cuts. But the public, not just the government, are demanding efficiency. And it's neccessary to look closely at these figures to see what's being done, behind the posturing.

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Comment number 1.
At 21:23 19th Jan 2011, Rog wrote:How about putting todays news into context over a more meaningful timeframe. Then we can get a detailed longer term view of Hampshire County Council expenditure before we rate any figures against perceived performance. Knowledge of the following statistics would be very helpful with such an analysis.
Annual expenditure for past five years (year on year)
Number of people employed for past five years (Headcount per year)
Annual expenditure on salaries & wages for past five years (year on year)
Annual expenditure on employee pension schemes for past five years (year on year)
Can these be obtained & posted?
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Comment number 2.
At 22:54 19th Jan 2011, BlueDragoon wrote:In Oxfordshire we have also been told that more than 1,000 county council staff will be made redundant. Surely this exposes the ridiculous untruths told by Labour about the grant settlement somehow favouring the Conservative South of England authorities.
We are all shouldering our part of the load of removing the debt that was run up by the previous government, and in the process we are creating a stronger, more resilient public service that provides real value for money.
Of course there will be heartbreak for families affected by these changes but the country will be better for it. It would be good to see the statistics that Rog asks for above. I would wager that the reductions announced today do not take Hampshire back to the level of expenditure five years ago which was several years into the great Labour Party spending spree.
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Comment number 3.
At 23:08 19th Jan 2011, TGR Worzel wrote:The lions share of my Council Tax goes to Hampshire County Council. They seem to have such a huge chunk of it, compared to everybody else, that it just doesn't seem warranted. It makes HCC look wasteful, which from observing what they are doing when I'm out and about, I'm quite sure that it is. News of cuts is therefore very welcome. The Hampshire Senate could go for a start...!
Mind you, I'm assuming here that the cuts will result in a long overdue reduction in Council Tax. Cuts are OK in my book if it means that Council Tax is reduced...
But I've a nasty feeling that savings won't be passed on to Householders.
I suspect we'll be hit with the double whammy of cuts in services and a massive increase in our Council Tax bills. If not this year, in 2012 when the election promise has expired...
Now that's a really good question for the media to be asking, i.e. what happens to Council Tax from 2012 onwards....?
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Comment number 4.
At 12:12 20th Jan 2011, maureen wrote:Of course most of our Council Tax goes to Hampshire CC because HCC is responsible for providing most of the services used by the public. District councils provide very little by comparison. As for a reduction in Council Tax, I doubt it. According to Mr. Henley's report above, the savings to be made are not just to offset the reduction in government grant but to redirect the money (£20M) into improving frontline services where demand is increasing e.g. adult social care. This way, HCC can deliver more services without increasing the tax burden which would otherwise be necessary. No doubt Mr Henley will correct me if I am wrong in my interpretation of his article.
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Comment number 5.
At 14:06 20th Jan 2011, eastleighnews wrote:Schools may be 'ring fenced' but are not immune from the effects of cuts.
Teaching & support staff are having thier premium (overtime) rates revised.
Weekday's O/T rates shrunk from time-and-a-half to ordinary time and double time payments are to disappear.
Those who put thier own social and family life on hold to put in extra time for out of hours activites will be paid less for doing so.
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Comment number 6.
At 17:17 20th Jan 2011, charlotte1884 wrote:Well my comments were all deleted truth hurts then. Whatever happened to freedom of speech this will not be dropped everyone will realise soon who Andy Moore really is .
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Comment number 7.
At 13:44 21st Jan 2011, Peter Henley wrote:Charlotte - #6 - We're big fans of free speech - I don't think your comments have been deleted - it would show up as a moderated entry? However, do please stick to the topic, which for this post is council job cuts.
#5 Yes, Stephen, I'll look into the overtime pay - it's well worth keeping an eye on the *creative* ways that different councils are squeezing elements of the schools budget that they can shift outside the ring fence.
#4 Welcome to the blog Amelia, please call me Peter! You are absolutely right, £20 million may prove to be an underestimate of the extra money needed to keep pace with the growing complexity of social care. #3 Worzel is unlikely to get cash back from Hampshire even though services will be reduced.
#2 and #1 I am on the case BlueDragoon and Rog, and will post some more figures for us all to digest ASAP
Thanks all for your comments.
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Comment number 8.
At 14:19 25th Jan 2011, Peter Henley wrote:Still waiting to hear answers to those questions from Hampshire, but West Sussex have helpfully put their budget cuts on-line, though they're not releasing a jobs figure yet.
https://www2.westsussex.gov.uk/ds/cttee/pr/pr210111i6a.pdf
https://www2.westsussex.gov.uk/ds/cttee/cab/cab250111i3b4.pdf
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