Friday 25 November 2011

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I can bet that none of your alleged radical ideas will include projects like making the water companies build a virtual " National Grid " for water starting with two pipes one from Kielder to London with one from the Lake District intersecting in Yorkshire. Our cement industry is currently running inefficiently both in manpower and energy but if we were to specify concrete pipes plenty of jobs could be created. That's not including the pipeline itself which could be started at multiple sites across the route and provide much needed employment for only semi-skilled workers. No need to import anything so no problem with our balance of payments deficit, spread the work out over the next ten years and ensure the south east never faces problems with drought. A true green climate change adaptation measure and perhaps the investment in Kielder in the 1970s will have been worthwhile, the original steel works it was designed to supply having been closed.

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#6 That's a challenge for any civil engineer with the nouse to do it, do all the plans in your free time and then present them to the politicians when complete and costed !

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Today, whilst most of the news focuses on protests in Egypt, the FT reports "Six killed by Syrian military, say activists - Activists said at least six Syrian civilians were killed in crackdowns on anti-government protests on Friday, as President Bashar al-Assad's regime, facing the growing likelihood of Arab sanctions, said 10 military personnel had died "

If one substitutes "terrorists" instead of "activists" does what the BBC reported today as "activists" taking multiple AK-47s into Syria read any differently?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15887364

In these difficult times it will not make Britain and Europe's economies any more stable to have them seen to be supporting what Russia doesn't approve of. It will be treated as us supporting terrorism and regime change contrary to International law? Russia, China and the BRICS are clearly not happy about any of this - Syria is a strategic Russian ally:

https://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/25/us-syria-russia-brics-idUSTRE7AO0AP20111125

https://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/25/c_131270125.htm

We get our water through three big pipes from the Lake District ( about 50 miles away ), the pipes continue from here in the Ribble Valley across the back of Accrington and then into a tunnel trough to a big reservoir north of Bury. Its a tunnel through the hills just to the back of us, I can remember seeing the last one being built when I was a small child, over 40 years ago. It was all done by Manchester Corporation public works department, they had a base at Gt Harwood where the bloke who trained me my scientific aspects was employed up to the completion of all the works. Old buses were used to take the men out to site from the bigger mill towns, employed loads of local people as well, even decent wages you could actually save on. No pumps required anywhere even though it crosses under the river Ribble about 500 ft below where it goes into the tunnel to Bury.

All I know is that Kielder is higher than north London and the lake district is higher than the part of Yorkshire where both pipes would need to intersect, both are higher than London so no excuse for pumping anything !

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The government's plans for the economy were always based on ideology rather than any proven econometric model, as Paul Krugman and Martin Wolf point out:

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/death-by-accounting-identity/

One of Krugman's regular themes is that the US is turning into an oligarchy In his NYT Opinion today, he expands upon another assertion that the top 0.1 percent have done even better than the top 1 percent. Here is one official statistic:

"between 1979 and 2005 the inflation-adjusted, after-tax income of Americans in the middle of the income distribution rose 21 percent. The equivalent number for the richest 0.1 percent rose 400 percent. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/opinion/we-are-the-99-9.html?_r=1

The article is only availably if you are registered and logged in, but that is free in the UK.

His analysis got him a bit of hate mail, to which he responded with characteristic humour:

"....it’s true — I’m a Sharia Jewish atheist Marxist who hates America! Bwahahaha!"

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/where-the-money-is/

@4,10,11 Bros

A very interesting and practical suggestion which should be seriously considered.

"No pumps required anywhere even though it crosses under the river Ribble about 500 ft below where it goes into the tunnel to Bury." This makes sense - it's like a giant syphon I suppose.

There might be some contrary arguments, which shouldn't be against the principle, but perhaps affect the way it's executed.

Here in West Wales, we have plenty of rain and low water-rates. The locals would object strongly if the need to pay for such an infrastructure project pushed up their own water charges. "We get the rain, why should we pay to share it with THEM when we won't get their surplus sunshine in return?" To counter that, one might argue that people in rural areas pay the same as those in cities for electricity, even though it's more expensive to provide. "On the third hand", we need the agricultural surplus of rural areas to feed everyone else, even though prices are squeezed by the big players, so perhaps they deserve this subsidy?

Finally though: yes, it's a good idea, but not if it encourages even more people into a part of the country which is already overcrowded.

Last night, this Conservative chap was likely to be as sympathetic to the plight of the Public Sector and unions as Ed Miliband.

British people are very "understanding" these days, and of course, the Public Sector workers don't know how lucky they are helping out the people which Mr Raab would like to see get on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab

The country appears to have suffered a collective lobotomy not being able to see where this is all going to end.

Last night, the oligarch/billionaire-owner of the Dagestan football club, Suleyman Abusaidovich Kerimov briefly appeared in the footage on the team as it was covered by Newsnight. Dagestan is blighted by Islamic rebellion..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleyman_Kerimov

Now have a look at the Webster definition given part way down this authoritative article, giving some serious thought as to how and why any small group of people may contrive to intimidate other people into never questioning whether they ever do anything 'controversial':

https://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2003-4/porat.htm

It may surprise some.

Sasha Clarkson wrote:"The government's plans for the economy were always based on ideology rather than any proven econometric model, as Paul Krugman and Martin Wolf point out:"

Does Krugman have anything to say about the statistical likelihood of his 2% of the population owning so much of the nation's wealth, or it being so disproportionately frequent amongst the nation's most influential economists (and recent White collar alleged-criminals and venals)? is it not odd that so many have been great admirers of such people? It's like the behaviour of "molls".

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Sasha #14

Of course one would expect that Thames Water would pick up the lions share of the bill for the new water grid but they have been short all the way down the east from Lincolnshire this year. There is nothing to stop anybody using said water for agriculture either, farmers down the east side of the midlands have been stopped from irrigating this year, our most productive and fertile farming areas. Perhaps Severn and Trent could pick up a proportion as well and its not that long ago that Yorkshire were forced to use tankers from Kielder. Even the North West is not immune, a couple of years ago the Leeds Liverpool canal was closed due to local drought, the Yorkshire link could work both ways in theory. Like you say though, it should not be used as an excuse for more development in the South East.

#16. "..have a look at the Webster definition given part way down this authoritative article.."

no mention of Webster's anywhere on the wiki page, pls clarify.

"Steve Smith has a strange tale from Lewes in Sussex where vandals armed with explosives have embarked upon a dangerous campaign of blowing up parking meters."

"Fifteen attacks have been made on 14 meters ... One of the machines, in Southover High Street, was almost completely destroyed and will have to be replaced. The others will be repaired or have been fixed already."

seems more like fireworks misuse than actual explosives, but that would not sound as sensational.

Given the fact that the Office for Budegtary Responsibility has consistently missed the mark by a country mile as has the Government, shouldn't we be questioning the undue influence libertarian ideology seems to play in economic policy and so-called independent forecasting?

Demand is critical to growth/recession, yet no account of the recessionary impact of virtually every facet of government policy seems to have been made in any of the forecasts -that's why unemployment is rapidly rising, debt is increasing and growth is flatlining - & recession looms.

Christopher Choate very bravely came on to NN some months ago and seemed to row back fairly extensively from the previous forecasts the OBR made before he took over. I'd hope that the departure of Alan Budd from the OBR would remove the apparent NeoCon spin on its assessment of the coalition's economic policies - when you look back at their initial assessment, the OBR's first forecast required the UK to outperform the very best economies in investment, export growth and job creation - delusional or what?

If Choate firmly bites the hand that feeds him next week, then I'll begin to believe the OBR can be a force for good - otherwise it will remain a figleaf for doctrinaire policies which don't add up.

'Tonight we examine the differences between the main parties on economic policy and whether there is clear water between what they are saying or not.

Is there an aquatic equivalent of a ciggy paper?

None seem to have a clue. And an awful lot of folk on a good wedge invested in endlessly not admitting that, or throwing our grandkids' money after the bad many had to hand over in the past.

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Social inequality in the USA (and other Libertarian countries) is a function of getting on plus individual diversity and so it's inevitable that those who do well by it will fight tooth and claw to preserve the Libertarian system. It's presumably why so many ambitious people left (fled) the more regulated Europe (West and East) for the USA in the late C19th and early C20th - i.e to a land which they were told was free and where they were led to believe that people were infinitely plastic (i.e free and equal) to do as they wished if they just tried. Not only are many very proud of how well they do (why DO people celebrate what they are gifted with by someone else?), we also have an industry which celebrates it (the media) and people pay for it too!..

https://www.jewishworldreview.com/joe/aaron101007.php3

The one percent (and even 0.1%) issue has been an emotive topic since way before the credit crunch.

https://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/oct2007/usa-o16.shtml.

Will we see anything much happen other than even more people racing to climb the greasy pole? Watching some of the Levenson Inquiry made me wonder at times if it was just a publicity/propaganda stunt for the "aggrieved" celebrities who all tell tales for a living if you think about it!

Listening to the exchange on Newsnight last night between Mr Raab the Conservative MP and the representative of UNISON last night, I doubt things are getting better, just more mendacious. Perhaps the representative from UNISON could have done better, but these are depressing times, and she's a member of a shrinking minority (the 20%)..

OPTIMISE WISDOM IN THE YOUNG AND GROW QUALITY ADULTS (##24)

"....how would we good folk of Britain . . . successfully (improve) life in the British Isles and the prospects for our grandchildren?"

In 1995 I came up with a possible approach. I developed the idea, gathered a team of enthusiastic professionals (including a world figure in cartoon humour) who met twice to develop the scheme. We had every reason to believe it was 'commercial' (self funding, once running). Sadly Rowntree would not fund a demo tape and programme commissioners were not 'hooked'.

My Rowntree submission gives an idea: https://www.barriesingleton.co.uk/
click "Visionary Stuff". I have a mind to try again - funding the demo myself. I regret 16 years lost.

My approach cannot be the only one possible. Perhaps others have got nowhere too? Or are we all so squashed by corruption and hypocrisy that the shrug is all we have left?

Do you think I should approach Nick n Dave?

JunkkMale wrote: "Is there an aquatic equivalent of a ciggy paper?"

None of that came as any surprise did it? That's Libertarian "choice".

We *should* all accept the obvious, namely that we live in a one-party Libertarian (Trotskyite) state which does "expectation management"
Hollywood style and where most people only ever listen to celebrities because the cult of disordered personality is revered second only to money.

That looks like it's critical, but it's actually just a description, isn't it?

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MIGHT IT BE (#29)

that The Ape Confused by Language is doomed to fail while he persists in setting up (defaulting to) APE SOCIETIES?

A truly HUMAN SOCIETY would function in a very different way.

Is the seemingly-insurmountable 'Coulomb Barrier', the transition from one to the other?

Quantum Tunnelling anyone?

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My wife tells me I am obsessed with the BBC and need to take a lie down in a darkened room and "stop fussing"......which immediately makes me suspicious that her feminine intuition tells her I am far too close to the truth for womankind`s liking!

It`s not called Aunty BBC for nothing...it`s a repository of every barmy impractical well-meaning good intention at large in British society today!

But more sinister than that by far... it also exercises much more political power than we voters can possibly do.

Consider whose agenda has guided "government policy" over that few decades.

Was it the public who marched up Whitehall demanding that we stay in the United States of Europe or went into the Balkans and Iraq and Afghanistan?

Did we demand to be flooded with low interest Chinese money by Wall Street and got into impossible levels of debt?

And who recalls which public broadcaster has brought down a reign of terror on the heads of anyone who complained about mass immigration?

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BEING VAGUE MAKES FOR A DIFFICULT TARGET (#32)

Sorry Jim, I couldn't resist that - I have now locked my Child in the cellar.

The 'flesh' is distributed all over the place, since I first realised that we die still primitive and juvenile - even after our 'allotted span'.

I am thinking on my 'feet' here . . .

I observe - in self and others - that old-age PERMITS intrusion of wisdom.
What if we were BORN with an inclination to wisdom that mediated the CHILDISH fascination with novelty and cleverness? OR more reasonably: if we ATTAINED SUCH IN SHORT ORDER? To be TRULY WISE BEFORE PUBERTY would be a massive check on our VEHICLE APE, modifying a wide range of behaviours, and even allowing us to become REALLY HUMAN.

It is now generally accepted that we have the 'kit' to get a diagnostic read-out from individuals, and the data to correlate - to a degree. This field will refine and progress (until the Ape-mob torch the research establishment).

Should I write to Nick n Dave? (How did he get out of the cellar?)

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TV_As_Eyes wrote: "no mention of Webster's anywhere on the wiki page, pls clarify"

See the second not first link. Look on the page for "Britannica Merriam Webster Dictionary of the English Language"

Next ask yourself how to corner a market. First peddle a religious system which is different to your own, one which preaches a kind of universal love (hippy-like) philosophy of peace and love (turning the other cheek etc). Get laws passe which prohibit money lending at high interest rates (anti-usury). Then, settle amongst said group but say you don't agree with the anti-usury policy except within your own group. Get this accepted bit the out-group on the condition that you wear a special identifying uniform (special had or badge) which ensures you are not arrested or attacked as a law-breaker. It's effectively getting a licence to be a Financial Adviser or banker. It would explain how one group ends up doing very well out of capitalism would it not? If anyone finds fault with this, get a definition created which makes them feel bad. If you get somewhere where you can all retreat to, have anyone who finds fault with your foreign policy guilty of a hate crime.

To see this strategy unravel, just imagine every group doing this, and every state. There'd be conflicts if not wars would there not? This is why it should be exposed as trouble making I suggest, in the interest of all concerned. This behaviour is remarkably like how adolescent girls psychologically bully each other is it not?

One sees this behaviour almost everywhere in modern politics. Last night, one could be forgiven for not immediately grasping that the UNISION representative was defending the pitiful pensions of £500 a month for many who have spent their lives just trying to help other people....The only reason why the MP had credibility was because he had amazing gall and out celebrity culture makes it much easier for them to get away with this, as we love being deceived on TV. We worship performers who con for a living. We find fault with people who are NOT good pretenders (not good actors or "role-players").

Aboriginaljim wrote: "Like Marxism and other religious myths they have sustained mankind when things were grim and dispiriting...."

As I've suggested before, read the Chinese Constitution, and look at their economy (and their urban OECD/PISA results - they are "partners").
This is a Marxist (Stalinist) national socialist state. It's Civil Service (Party) manages/regulates its capitalists as just one of its four classes (see its flag).

If you do not follow what's been posted, it is going to make rational communication difficult, if not impossible.

Look back to the FT comment on the UK FTSE and Footsie and read the most recent BLUE BOOK on national accounts. Then think about teachers, and all the other Public Sector workers (6 million in all) who are supposed to be either helping people into or out of work, or helping business in the UK. When one adds all these Public Sector workers (only 20% of the workforce) up, bear in mind WHAT they are supporting, as a lot of the people in the Private Sector are now working for companies which are based somewhere else in the world! That's where their profits will be going. Their company may be LISTED in the UK, but that isn't where the profits will go or where the dividends will be spent. Even if one looks at the balance sheets of the Private Sector Financial Service and other companies and considers the Corporation Tax collected by Revenue and Customs, one will see that the contribution to the Treasury from Corporation Tax is tiny (something like just over 40 billion of the 500 billion taxes collected). Compared to Income Tax and National Insurance it's tiny, and they want to reduce it even further. It's jobs which matter,. but as most of the jobs (80%) are in the Private Sector and probably NOT in the direct interest of the country, what are our teachers preparing people for, and what is the DTI etc really helping?

It doesn't seem to be Britain. In fact we are told that is "protectionist" or "nazi", hence the relentless attack on the state by internationalists and............ our own Governments! Our own Government is withering away the very reason why they exist.

Aboriginaljim wrote:"@31 That sounds vaguely promising Barrie...but you will have to put some flesh on those "human" bones if apes like me are to follow your drift!"

Barrie does not appear to favour detail. That would spoil his rhetoric.

This was the point made about our Libertarian (anarchistic) politicians last night on Newsnight, was it not? We get storms in teacups which all amounts to collusion in a relentless campaign against the state. This was made very clear in the clip of Miliband's words to the unions shown on Newsnight last night.

One should note that whilst Barrie frequently calls for the dismantling of Westminster (like all anarchists), he never proposes anything practical in its place, just grandiose psychological waffle.

To see non grandiose waffle at work, see China and the BRICS.
Ironically, this way of doing politics originated in the West but now we have our politicians getting us into debt in order to undermine our own state, and largely because many of their kin were once thwarted when they tried to undermine the state from within elsewhere. These are not statesmen and women, they may be unwitting "wreckers" who mean well, but don't look at the consequences. To see the important consequences, look at the birth rate, (and look at what happened to it in Eastern Europe after 1989). This is what biologists call "biological fitness" when looking at populations.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1937/03/03.htm

Most in the West are routinely taught that those being purged were innocent just as they are taught that nazis are nasty. But what if they weren't? Might that explain the state which we are now in across Europe and the Far East? Might some of the stories have been like those about Iraq's WMDs or others that we continue to hear today? Might the "activists" in 1930s Russia and 1920s and 30s Germany have been financial terrorists?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEU6tWDbF3g&feature=feedu

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/opinion/we-are-the-99-9.html?_r=1

"So should the 99.9 percent hate the 0.1 percent? No, not at all. But they should ignore all the propaganda about “job creators” and demand that the super-elite pay substantially more in taxes."

This would appear to be just a shrewd move on Krugman's part to exclude many of those in the top 1% off.

There are, of course, devious, self-interested people in all ethnic groups. But, some DO work systematically to promote group interests and it is part of some groups' code that they levy social and financial sanctions against any non-conformists.

How does one stop that, or even deter it? How does one stop people from asserting that behaviour is NOT hereditary when so much evidence now says that it is? Note how the second link finds fault for taking a line for which there is SOME evidence, but where the logical quantifier ALL does NOT apply. Are most people outside actuaries able to handle such probabilistic subtleties? Probably not, hence we censure and censor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_Salvador_Allende

https://islamversuseurope.blogspot.com/2011/07/leftist-icon-salvador-allende-was.html

brown-dog wrote:

"Will we see anything much happen other than even more people racing to climb the greasy pole? Watching some of the Levenson Inquiry made me wonder at times if it was just a publicity/propaganda stunt for the "aggrieved" celebrities who all tell tales for a living if you think about it!"




Father of 7/7 victim snubs the press inquiry 'hijacked by celebrities'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066410/Father-7-7-victim-snubs-press-inquiry-hijacked-celebrities.html

PRIME-TIME CELEB SAYS "NO" TO REGULATION

Don't mess with The Female Boss! Tulisa to defy OfCom investigation into her trademark X Factor tattoo flash

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2066483/X-Factor-2011-Tulisa-Contostavlos-defy-OfCom-investigation-trademark-tattoo-flash.html

For over a generation, we seem to have had the majority of the electorate voting for Governments whose agenda has been to get rid of the very people who provide Government (the Public Sector) and yet those voting this way generally seem not to have seen how self destructive that's been.

https://news.google.co.uk/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&ar=1322331718

Some are now asking why there are over a million young people with no jobs. Why are they not able to grasp that this is most probably a direct consequence of previous Governments mismanaging education and immigration so that we have had a surfeit of births of unemployable people, and a dearth of births of those who'd otherwise have been employable and gone on to create jobs and essential services?

It's time for some on Newsnight to put these unpleasant questions to the likes of Mr Cameron, Clegg and Miliband or their minions asking why they are slowly but surely creating Third World conditions in Britain and Europe

Remember how they told us last winter that the uprising in Cairo wasn't about Israel or the Jews? Well guess what.... It was and it is
https://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2011/11/of-course-it-wasnt-about-israel-or-jews.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

and to top it off
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8917077/Prepare-for-riots-in-euro-collapse-Foreign-Office-warns.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2066240/Second-leak-climate-emails-Political-giants-weigh-bias-scientists-bowing-financial-pressure-sponsors.html

Mistress76uk provided a couple of disconcerting links:

I suggest the first blog needs to be evaluated critically. The Muslim Brotherhood can be as hot-headed as activist Jews on these matters. Look at the following link, and critically evaluate it for bias, along with some of the issues listed on the side (Obama etc). Read the tone of the article on Germany and Iran, for instance..

https://news.google.co.uk/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&ar=1322331718

As to the Telegraph article - let's hope that this has nothing to do with the above. What abounds on the first site are hissy-fits after being scorned (entitlement etc). Times are worrying enough

That climate keeps on a'changin!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8918045/1-billion-of-UK-aid-to-fight-climate-change-in-Africa.html

cleggy rebranding himself

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066663/Lib-Dems-like-Oxfam-says-Nick-Clegg.html

:-D

Is it all just a massive coincidence, or do some of us have something to learn?

https://www.jta.org/news/article/2009/06/11/1005824/three-of-ukraines-four-billionaires-are-jewish

https://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/apr/20/rinat-akhmetov-most-expensive-property?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

https://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/jan/22/one-hyde-park-candy-home?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

https://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/nov/26/one-hyde-park-apartments-tax-avoidance?newsfeed=true


Wrong link in 49:

https://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2011/11/eu-threatens-israel-over-ngo.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2066380/Will-World-War-III-U-S-China.html

What are the chances of that happening, hey?

BRANDING IS A BIT HARSH LIZZY (#51)

Tar and feather should do it - and I guess the students will.

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BBC sought advice from global warming scientists on economy, drama, music... and even game shows:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066706/BBC-sought-advice-global-warming-scientists-economy-drama-music--game-shows.html

OPTIMISE WISDOM (#55)

Respect Nature - restore La Difference - demote Mammon - nurture for maturity.
Dethrone God(s) - disempower sects - demystify 'Life' - promote maturity.

Falinangel wrote "I think we have to try......and here`s a small beginning...we will rescue a persecuted people from the name "The Jews"
and embrace them as our fellow man."

Is it possible that just a relatively small group of developmentally dysfunctional people have been trying to make themselves appear to be much bigger and more powerful than they really are, but more in one endogamous group than others?

If so, the much larger, more normal, non dysfunctional members of the group comprising the reference group should perhaps be sorting this out, rather than foolishly "Caring In the Community" for a notoriously socially destructive minority class of Axis II Cluster B disordered people, as failure to do so is probably more than just giving the entire group a very bad name.

Like the effectively management of any technical problem, the first step is surely one of careful discrimination?

https://www.webofnarcissism.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=56c04911de59bbea7089b578c180a9fc&action=printpage;topic=4745.0

ODD

https://terroronthetube.co.uk/related-articles/did-%E2%80%98satanic%E2%80%99-powers-conspire-to-perpetrate-77/

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The next time you see or hear a politician, "business-person" or economist "argue" (usually no more than assert) that the way things are is a function of what the market demands (or "consumer-choice") i.e that prices are justified by market-demand, just do a quick translation of "the market" into "groups-of-children" or more accurately, "genetically-child-like-mental-age", bearing in mind that ever more people comprising populations (both here and elsewhere being
"democratised") function at a mental age below 11 years of age.
Education will not change that from what is known.

This is why some of those not-ready-to-be-democratised nations violently resist Liberal-Democracy as predatory/exploitative, as it's seen as a licence to take candy from babies (consumers).

It is usually right-wing Libertarians, not "lefties", who peddle Political Correctness and "equality", as that tends to encourage many to overlook the need for protective regulation given human diversity.

That does not mean that there are not those who don't exploit socialism for their own ends, i.e appropriate (nationalise) the means of production, communication and exchange) as state assets so that THEY can control these assets instead of the previous owners. One should expect a turnover in Government positions within such states (cf China). Where one sees the same family of dynasty in power over generations, there's clearly something wrong..

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BLOODY FREE WILL (#63)

If - as we are led to believe - our 'social circuits' are wired up using the society we are delivered into, as our template, and taking as given that we are intrinsically inquisitive and pleasure-seeking; left to ourselves (no wise guidance) it looks like a recipe for PRECISELY the disaster we have achieved.

Any delusional group who think THEY are bringing about our decline, have failed to realise the far greater force BUILT IN to the human organism, and that they - far from being above it all - are probably the least free from its ravages!

I have, as yet, no reason to change my view that small groups, with big taboos - TABOOS THAT REINFORCE NATURE - are the only sustainable configuration of human society.

The Kogi somehow found a way: https://www.alunathemovie.com/en

I hear there is one surviving community in S America.

GLOBAL ISN'T WORKING

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GET REAL? GET REAL! (#65)

When the least realistic (most delusional) are governing/subverting/manipulating the remainder, only Armageddon will reset to default. Assuming isolated, subsistence, hunter/gatherer groups are left (or lemurs or cockroaches) the Earth should re-establish an equilibrium (even absorbing all the GM madness). But if the big brain re-evolves, to bring damnation again . . .

One small glimmer is "The sons of Gods coming into the daughters of men". If we are - in fact - hybrids (and even, as Charles Forte posited: PROPERTY - see link) they might come back and benignly apply some insistence that we play nicely.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/fort/index.htm

Interesting times.

THE 99% AND THE 1%: LOST MOTION v USEFUL WORK IN WESTMINSTER (#66)

Westminster governance wastes much of its time, effort and money, fighting itself - not unlike a clapped out engine. BUT WESTMINSTER IS DESIGNED THAT WAY. MPs love - even revere - it.

No mature person would enter the party political arena of Westminster, with the GENUINE PRIMARY INTENT of doing good for the nation and its inhabitants.

The question: "THEN WHO DOES?" is all too easy to answer.

Shall I put it to Nick n Dave?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066706/BBC-sought-advice-global-warming-scientists-economy-drama-music--game-shows.html

Falinangel wrote:"How could you re-express post 58 in ways that give better clearer expression to the ideas (and possibly the sentiments?) you were meaning to convey to simpler souls like me?"

If you truly are a simple soul, try the following: Spend more time reading and following up on what has already been said rather than asking asinine questions such as the above. To start with, nobody knows who you are, or what your abilities are.

Expecting matters to be put into simpler terms is as stupid as asking for quarts to be put into pint pots or for someone to make 2+3=17. If matters could be put into simpler terms they already would have been, people wouldn't have to train for years to do what they do, and our current problems wouldn't have reached the problematic stage which they have as people would have prevented them.

GET OFF MY DONKEY AND DRINK MY MILK (#69)

So you spotted my presumption Lucifer. You do ask big questions.

Personally, I am investigating whether my MP, acting as plain 'Mr Benyon', after Parliament was prorogued, May 2010, enacted a DECEPTION by having the Conservative Liar Flyer put through my door (and, by inference, thousands of others).

I believe the MP, after prorogation, is VULNERABLE, like a Hermit Crab changing shells. I intend to highlight the DUPLICITY of the canvassing party politician, who presents AT ONE AND THE SAME TIME as rosette AND individual. I doubt this has ever been tested in law. ALL who are concerned with purported democracy, should ask their MP to CHOOSE between gathering votes for his rosette, or votes himself, and to declare which he has chosen before the next election.

barriesingleton wrote "No mature person would enter the party political arena of Westminster, with the GENUINE PRIMARY INTENT of doing good for the nation and its inhabitants.

The question: "THEN WHO DOES?" is all too easy to answer"

Stop writing nonsense about politics as you don't seem to understand the nature and problems of Libertarian (Liberal) Democracy. Libertarian Democracy is basically all about deregulation, i.e. minimal Governance - and they are good at that. It means NOT letting the state (i.e. Government i.e Public Sector) get in the way of the freedom of the Private Sector to run business (these days largely banking and other services - 80% if Service Sector) which makes their money out of the electorate.

The fact that our Private Sector is not competitive is not to be blamed on the tiny Public Sector (which is mainly education and health and similar public services these days and all the politicians have oversight of), but the low genetic ability of most of the population comprising the Private Sector (80% of the workforce and tax-payers) which is no longer competitive with other nations such as China, which is both bigger, and on average smarter.

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https://www.fairfueluk.com/survey2.html

"Under the loan guarantee scheme, the government will underwrite a set amount of banks’ borrowing, enabling them to lend money out to small businesses at a cheaper rate."

https://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/da82bed2-1906-11e1-92d8-00144feabdc0.html

£40 billion?

How does a Libertarian Government do "Credit Easing" without doing so at the expense of the only collateral it has i.e. (a) national taxes, (b) past taxes which have been sunk into Public Sector assets by previous generations now being sold off (e.g lands) (c) borrowing more money on the money-markets creating even more national debt?

Finally, what exactly is a "British" business these days? Isn't it illegal or "protectionist" under EU Law to favour "British" businesses?

We will be told on Tuesday apparently. Will it be transparent or will it be opaque?.

Libertarian regime changers have a history of painting those who try to actually govern countries as insane holocaust mongers rather than socialists who care about people. To see just how distorted it all gets have a look at this classic in from 1977

https://www.chomsky.info/articles/19770625.htm

and then look at what's being wheeled out again today in Cambodia in an effort to make a new generation believe that socialism is inherently evil..

https://www.thejakartaglobe.com/seasia/french-lawyer-takes-center-stage-in-cambodian-court/480802

"“It sounded like a novel written by Alexandre Dumas about what happened in Cambodia,” said Verges, condemning the prosecution’s “fantastical view of reality"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/cambodia/8908840/Khmer-Rouge-leader-slams-fairytale-accusations.html

Even the BBC has, at times, wittingly or unwittingly facilitated the dubious propaganda interests of Libertarians eager to spin low credibility tales of what supposedly happens in "secretive" and "oppressive" North Korea, the cotton-picking Uzbekistani "child-slave labourers", and most recently, the plight of Syrian "activists". It's like the tales of starvation in Ukraine under Stalin, the never ending tales of the dreadful "nazis" in the 40s which we get on TV even today, the alleged genocide under Mao in China, and the Iraqi soldiers doing terrible things to baby-incubators in Kuwait etc..

This is how Libertarianism is reinforced domestically. Look at the costs in terms of its biological fitness (birth rates)....or at least, ask some questions of those telling tales..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8917737/Is-the-global-warming-scare-the-greatest-delusion-in-history.html

UBS report says EU carbon emissions trading scheme cost the consumers $287 billion for almost zero impact on cutting carbon emissions.

bargain.

Falinangel wrote: "Not quite that simple that I don`t know very well why professions create their own internal language.....all professions are to some degree conspiracies against the laity with an active interest in protecting themselves from unwanted criticism and scrutiny...as you would surely concede?"

You don't understand! The professions are NOT "conspiracies against the laity". You need to get an education in areas which you don't understand. Learning new languages, be it chemistry, geology, genetics or French, ALGOL, C etc is what's required for anyone who wants to understand parts of the world which are not accessible in Natural Language. That's why the sciences create their own predicates. It's to handle discriminations which are only made by those working in those domains. Such discriminations are not made at all in Natural Language.

Why do you think people train? One can't translate what one learns in specialist areas back into ordinary language as the terms are not there!

https://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/opinion/cartoon/bill_jamieson_wind_of_change_hitting_renewables_1_1980974

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Falinangel wrote: "@73 The flaw in this is that a lot of successful capitalists and valued employees are frankly rather thick BD.....visit your local golf club and interview a thousand small traders before contradicting me please.....you must have done the research before you post on here!I will draw you up a reading list as well."

Try and take this on board: I am referring to people's behaviour, not to what they think or believe. It is all about what people do, and what they think and say is just a small part of that. In fact, it is not fundamentally important whether they are even aware of what they are doing. What does matter is the critical mass of behaviours at the population level. What people DO is what matters. The truth or falsehood of most of what I post here is not affected by whether people are aware of it being true or not, or whether they're aware of what they do either for that matter.

"Perspiration and determination Mr Dog.....that`s what wins through in the end."

No it isn't.

"Few jobs involve a high IQ......and thank goodness because high IQ`s are often associated with qualities that employers don`t really want in their staff."

This is not relevant. The world is as it is regardless of what you or I believe. Try and grasp the implications of that. Egocentricity (SELF-centredness) is a major flaw in modern life. It a feature of arrested (adolescent) development which is when most people's education stops. This is Newsnght blog, not Blue Peter.

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Falinangel wrote: "@85 How dare you abuse me in that way...try as you will to impose your fanatical deranged ideas about what is relevant (everything you believe) and what is the infantile misguided idiotic ramblings of an ignoramus (everything anyone else says)..your ideas (whatever they turn out to be) have probably gained no traction anywhere in the world or at any time in history......could history and the human race be trying to tell you something Your Omniscience?"

It looks like you need a spell in obedience school!

Those with clickers get my vote!

Nice to see those 'rules' that are often so strict on keeping the tenor of the thread civil can be relaxed, apparently.

Maybe it's not so much what one says but who one is?

As someone once said, another day another name...!

Maybe time to buy my own ISP and hold schizophrenic conversations with myself here all day? It sure would serve to keep away, or at least dilute any other input.

JunkkMale wrote: "Nice to see those 'rules' that are often so strict on keeping the tenor of the thread civil can be relaxed, apparently."

Or maybe you only THINK you understand the rules? Many of our European problems may derive from growth in numbers who put too much store by their mental or ego-centric criteria rather than physically independent
(allo-centric) criteria. This was a less which European philosophy and logic only finally learned around the 1930s, so one has to pause for though when that point is repeatedly made (see how Carnap changed and in the wake of that we got programming languages and the computer). This is why the great information or automation revolution accelerated after the 40s. Centuries of philosophy and technology were retarded by our not having made this discrimination, i.e that mentalism (psychological explanation) is a mistake, or just a domain of superstitious ignorance worthy of study AS a curiosity or modus vivendi. It was a very hard lesson too, and it's still one which few learn without a struggle, even today. Listen to the "On Having a Poem" link. Many people don't LIKE this, but it is true, and it works, as far as we know. It requires one to junk centuries of speculative "philosophy" as confusion.

"Maybe it's not so much what one says but who one is?"

On the other hand, maybe it isn't?

"As someone once said, another day another name...!"

And what if someone is wrong? How does one decide what is true and what is false? Part of the answer is not to ask certain types of questions as they are irrelevant, i.e. distractions. Focus on WHAT is said in sentences, i.e what is referred to out there in the world, not WHO the sentences appear to originate from. This can require quite subtle discrimination at times.

"Maybe time to buy my own ISP and hold schizophrenic conversations with myself here all day? It sure would serve to keep away, or at least dilute any other input.2

Schizophrenia is characterised by a split between reality and belief, where the individual is overwhelmed by intrusive "ideas" which make little sense. They are overloaded with irrelevant data. It has nothing to do with the mythical notion of "multiple personality" which is only something one gets in the movies..If one puts too much store by what one believes rather than the evidence for why one holds true what one does, one is just talking about the psychological, which is not-truth functional. When one talks about oneself (one's behaviour), others have access to that material too just not as frequently perhaps.

One of the four Axis II Cluster B identity disorders is Borderline. It is mainly females (75%) but it IS functionally related to schizophrenia.
These identity disorders are far more common than many appreciate, especially when one appreciates that many have multiple disorders.

These days we have "Care in the Community", which may be causing rather more trouble than we appreciate as these people are not very good at identifying what's just going on "inside their heads" vs what's going on in the world. Matters can get very fraught.

Give the allo-centric vs ego-centric reference system in language a bit of thought as at least part of the explanation for our growing woes.
Scientists and technologists are trained to be (selected for being) more allo-centric.

Falinangel wrote: "As to the frankly absurd idea that people like me can spend our twilight years combing through dense and obscure tomes on genetics...be serious!"

Do you appreciate that most people in Libertarian societies couldn't care less what you (or anyone else for that matter) do in your twilight years? They are far too self-centred to care about anything but themselves. In more socialist nations the elderly live with the family.

If one looks at all the youngish people today on their computers and Smartphones, one MAY see that in terms of time (and thus frequencies of
behaviours) they spend much more time in virtual reality than in reality. They "avoid" reality as it is too hard and demanding. As a consequence work and productivity suffers, and so does GDP.

For many, their world has become, (in terms of their time and behaviours), predominantly ego-centric at the expense of allo-centric.

There's also a major sense of "entitlement". Many tend to assume that others should enlighten them, or even prove matters of reality to them, give them jobs etc. There was a time when people had to go out to work for what they had but, in recent times (a generation or so, i,.e 30 years+) they have had it on credit. That's now coming to end, and when the entitled have their credit removed, they throw tantrums..It's termed "narcissistic rage". One sees a lot of it in blogs.

The wheels on the bus go round and round...all day long. Until the public sector "workers" go on strike this Wednesday thanks to those expensive Marxist led union barons floor the brakes. I wish Thatcher was still around (peace be upon her)..she'd know how to deal with the overpayed, underworked and pensioned quite nicely-thank-you-very-much public sector "workers"

#92 brown-dog wrote:

"If one looks at all the youngish people today on their computers and Smartphones, one MAY see that in terms of time (and thus frequencies of
behaviours) they spend much more time in virtual reality than in reality. They "avoid" reality as it is too hard and demanding. As a consequence work and productivity suffers, and so does GDP."


It's funny you should mention that because on Radio 4's Today programme (on early) this morning they were mentioning that some of the biggest firms in hi-tech, including Google and Microsoft, are calling for major changes in the education system to give Britain the computing skills it needs to compete.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9649000/9649618.stm

https://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9649000/9649670.stm

Of course John Humphreys, during his interview of the guests on this subject, completely missed the point. As (alas) did the two guests, Technology Correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones and Alex Hope, co-author of the Livingstone Hope Review on whether children need to learn how computers work, and not just how to use them.

The main subject taught in schools ICT, on how to USE computers etc, was rubbished as being wholly inadequate for teaching how they work or how to programme them. Doh!

*If only someone like you could have been on the Radio 4 programme this morning.*

None of the guests touched on the fact that subjects such as computing programming/engineering etc require high levels of literacy in subjects such as advanced maths and physics etc. As you have oft mentioned, these are tough subjects to study and learn and the kids of today just don't want to do them. Again, as you have banged on about on here (for quite a while), the dumbing down of our population has been a consequence of our libertarian, celebrity obsessed society in the UK. There aren't even sufficient teachers capable enough to teach these subjects at A-level in most comprehensives up and down the country.

Engineering has been a dirty word in the UK for quite some time now. Apart from a few niche examples, our entire industrial (i.e. making things) base has been exported by the snakes-in-suits in the The City and this is what has brought the country to its knees.

Still, if we can't grow our own computer programmers/engineers I guess we'll just be able to bus load in ever more immigrants into the UK with the requisite skills with the added bonus of creating even more consumers.

People really do need to wake up and smell the coffee.

#93 kevseywevsey

Was it Thatcher's economic policies that you admired...or was it her policies on N. Ireland? (and do you really believe they were her "own" personal policies? - I thought Westminster only did libertarian party politics)

btw - I don't think the old bird is dead just yet.

#93 kevseywevsey wrote:

"..she'd know how to deal with the overpayed, underworked and pensioned quite nicely-thank-you-very-much public sector "workers" "


Do you use the NHS or the private sector for your health-care provision?

(that's if you live in the UK of course)

One a day when the OECD is asserting that the EU is in recession and that the UK will go back in to recession early next year:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15915627

have a look at the following two links and give a little thought to some of the ubiquitous statistics which keep popping up as to who buys luxurious flats, football teams, and is massively over-represented in the most wealthy percentage in the USA and EU, and yet.......make political and financial capital out of campaigning as members of an alleged persecuted minority drawing on other allegedly oppressed groups (non Whites, females and gays) as fellow victims. Who are they victims of? Is the agenda not the removal of the status quo under the subterfuge that here is something oppressive or repressive about the state? How often does one read about "institutional racism" in the police or even our schools which justify trips and celebratory days to teach people to behave differently?

Is it not erosion of the regulative status quo which is the target? At the same time, ask yourself how many people you actually meet who you would say are prone to any such "hate speech", and what forensic evidence there is for any of these allegedly frequent mass killings let alone hate crimes.

Might it not be that such campaigns are in fact just cleverly contrived political programmes to secure self-advancement at the expense of others and to subvert regulations which might otherwise thwart such opportunism? Might it be an egregious creation of a fictitious bogeyman which facilitates *positive* discrimination based on fear?

How else is one to explain the marked discrepancy between measures of success and all of the allegations of hate-speech and discrimination?.If a group found this "activism" worked in their interests (i.e in terms of economic advancement) would it not recruit "activists" driven by "market-forces"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12261501

https://standuptohate.blogspot.com/2011/01/liverpool-event-remembers-holocaust-and.html

Is this absolutely impossible? Where are the reliable figures for this alleged "hate speech"? We even read these days of it being "unconscious", that is, there being no manifestation of it at all. How irrational is that? Policies based on the non existence of something.

It's a bit like going to war because of imagined WMDs is it not?

'94. At 13:11 28th Nov 2011, museV wrote:'

I enjoyed this tweet earlier...

'@johnpopham
I thought John Humphrys did a great job of trying to convince the world that learning to code was an impossible dark art on @r4today'

https://www.viddler.com/explore/kochvideo/videos/176/

He didn't get where he is today by knowing useful stuff. In some quarters it's almost necessary not to. That's where the big bucks are, and no one in the media world lacks the professional courtesy required to see such things get mentioned in other breaths.

Great... super.

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I SEEM TO HAVE JOINED THE 'MILE LOW' CLUB OF THE INEXPLICABLY REMOVED (#99)

In direct response to "great .... super" at #98, I posted CJs oft-repeated aphorism. I have read my 'courtesy email' twice, but can see no reason therein.