Friday 1 October 2010

Narcissistic interviewer interviews narcissistic celeb famous for being famous!


No news here!...move along please, move along, nothing to see here.

I look forward to Russell Brand being "skewered on a pin in the glare of your intellect" by Jeremy :D
Ha ha ha ha!!!

Now I've heard everything....Bin Laden talks about climate change.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6901DG20101001
Nuff said.

#1

Speak for yourself. You may not be famous but you're known /of/.

#3 addendum

In fact, debty, war tonight's programme will tackling is precisely what so many NN bloggers have been moaning about.

@ DJ #1 - Jeremy isn't narcissistic! And Russell Brand is a VERY famous comedian and even more huge in the US in both Films and TV comedy shows, and his second book is coming out. Oh and on top of that, he also raises money for drug addicts. He is, in one word, AWESOME :o)
He's even twittered about being on Newsnight tonight - and there'sa fab pic of him with Jeremy too!
https://www.russellbrand.tv/

#5.

Thanks, Mistress76uk, for the link which i'm going to watch before tonight's programme. I've felt a bit guilty all day for critiquing Russell so harshly without really knowing his work much. I'll get back to you once I've seen a few more clips of him but do remain of the opinion that he seems quite full of himself in the Newsnight clip

mim

BRAND - WHY?

You will be featuring 'good lord' Archer next! I trust the walls will be swirling and the intrusive musack intruding, in the interest of edginess and fun.

New Generation - New Depths.

Reply to ...

At 6:31pm on 30 Sep 2010, tabblenabble01 wrote:



Collectively - i.e. society - there is a ‘mountain of stuff’ that we don’t yet sic know. Evolution dictates that the global community continues with general consent that it is human nature to experience,consider, learn, experiment, practice, and evolve. Consequently IMO ‘we’ strive to maintain the belief that we will ‘get there’ even though ‘there’ is a empirically imposed illusion and results in a self - society wide - constraining yoke. (IMHO the evolutionary construct obligates global self-destruct. But! .... Hey! What do I know!)

As one eight billionth of that ‘community’ I am all too well aware that my knowledge is nanoscule and - undeniably - my existence probably consumes more than contributes. But! .... Hey! I am what I am and I certainly had no say in being here yet - honestly - almost “Je ne regret rien”!

That said ....

I try to read all of the posts here, often I will follow the links and often I’m left with the state of mind of that I’m much better off for the experience(s). Succinctly .... These posts, and a myriad of other ‘things’, - no matter how bizarre some may be - contribute to my very own personal evolution. At risk of condemnation for repeating myself I am what I am, I am where I’m at and “Je ne regret rien”!

By nature of choice I observe in - and hopefully intellectually accumulate from - all directions. Up-ways, sideways, which-ever-ways but I never consciously observe down. Why? Because IMVHO there is nothing beneath me to observe. Simply, I am equal to all and all are equal to me! (Altruistic, naive, child-like, delusional or just plain sad .... You decide.) Unfortunately my opinion of where I stand in the world is not always the same as where others consider me to be in the entire scheme of things. (Hey! C’est la vie.)

If you go back to my earliest posts you will see that many started with the identifier “From the top deck”. The intent was to offer to the discussion (Yes, OK, on occasion ... the drivel.) a witnessed view - inevitable and inescapable subconscious prejudices included - of what I observed other people were saying. It didn’t achieve much - Labour still lost the election - but I felt a little bit easier because I had tried to do what I felt had to be done. 1979 all over again just didn’t appeal! (Boy! Would I have felt better had I been able to have had one minute with GB! As it was I didn’t even get the usual polite 30 seconds on the doorstep from my constituency MP .... Maybe she realised the game was up. She lost her seat! No surprise to me there!))

On this post-board there is little in the way of cohesiveness - except possibly pontification, dogma and inter-poster condemnation - even in the sense that one would expect that the bulk of the posts would relate to the web team’s offered subjects for discussion. Most - I include myself as undoubtedly equal here - bang there own particular drum, claim or condemn the PC mantel, attempt to inform, attempt to impose or just plain drone!

But, strangely some might consider, the points made in the previous paragraph are at the root of many of the reasons I enjoy this board and keep coming back to it. (Masochism cannot entirely be ruled out of course!) This is despite the ‘fact’ that the Corporation increasingly seem to be ‘hiding’ this site! (Put the gun down,‘coz it’s useless. I’m paranoid!)

Yes it - this board, not ( now and here anyway) masochism - has it’s idiosyncrasies - e.g. It’s OK to comment about the sexual allure stroke physical ‘attributes’ of a female ‘celebrity’ but don’t dare make a reference to a Sandra Bullock movie plot, a 1950’s parodied comic book female hack and an item for future broadcast because you’ll get extradited to the ether oblivion! (Yes, I’m still trying to figure out what was wrong with the post but I have no option but to console my ego with the illusion that it was probably simply a case of I ‘caught’ the moderator whom - sadly - was having a bad hair day! By way of mollifying the moderator reading this ... The blisters on my - two - typing fingertips and the necrotising brain cells still trouble me to this day and I’m trying hard to continue to take my punishment like a man stroke woman stroke person! (And the book deal? ... Forget that!?)

So where is all this - waffle you may think, I couldn’t possibly comment - going?

Here! ....

Dare I suggest that perhaps you read my ADHD comment too quickly?

The main point I was attempting to make I had hoped would come from two - key - words in the first sentence i.e. “must have”. I then followed with what I thought was a reasonably clear statement defending the ‘nature and nurture school’ (Perhaps, as I type so slowly, I had over-condensed my viewpoint?) Where I do have an ‘ishoo’ comes in with the “rare string’ statement.

Summarizing ... We are force fed the concept that ‘ a convenient label is an acceptable excuse.’ My beef? Too many people lurve the label, it’s suits purpose and clouds liability thereby easing of the conscience. ( I would hope that this last sentence shows that I am a clear advocate of research but NOT overhyped media extrapolation!)


Incidentally, I did catch the R4 ‘discussion’ .... IMO both sides lost!

As a thought .....

Did you catch BBC 3’s “My School Prom” last night? An excellent programme highlighting more for ‘society’ to worry about!

Re your post at 36 yesterday

Spot on! (Likewise the link.)

But don’t take me being patronising if I venture that IMHO most of your posts are!

I feel that we don’t really disagree on too much.

We come from different places, see thru’ different eyes and express ourselves in different ways!

And that is - irrefutably - some of, the many joys of, life!

My answer to your question in 36 .... No. Nothing that emanates from human beings can ever be impartial but I have a ‘thing’ about hypocrites e.g. Ms Her-own-man and the hypocrisy of religion amongst others.


Re a couple of my recent posts and references to megaphones.

The penultimate - size-wise - megaphone becomes active today, the Equalities Act.

I say penultimate because there is one more megaphone to come ...

The one that stops us from thinking!

Or is it already here!





Nanoscule”.

Yes, there’s no such word but it suits! Call it evolution of language? If anyone prefers to call ‘it’ something else ....

Who am I to complain!

I thought this programme was called Newsnight?

I won't be watching.

Kashidamus

Having correctly predicted the outcome of the Labour leadership election some many months ago - and relieving some turf accountants of a not unsubstantial sum of zamoolyas in the process - I can now exclusively reveal that; Ed Miliband will lose the next General Election, will stand down as Leader, a new leadership election will take place, his brother Dave will win it, will lose the next General Election i.e. in ten years' time, will stand down as Leader, another leadership election will take place and the winner will be Ed Balls. After that, the pictures get a bit hazy.......

Russell who? He's changed a lot since Gladiator!

Courtesy of a link to the BBC’s Editors Blog - via an unrelated reference to a post from, and by, tabblebabble01 (Thanks Mr T.) - I came across a link ( NB already vettted by the Corporation) of interest for two reasons; that stated by the original poster and the fact that the Burka appears to now be a fashion ‘must have’ for males!

I could be wrong though!

No. 75 on .......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2010/09/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnHLDeedVg&feature=player_embedded

he doesn't even mention fractional reserve banking. The Jerome Daly case -

"Daly based his defense on the argument that the bank had not actually loaned him any money but had simply created credit on its books. Daly argued that the bank had thus not given him anything of value and was not entitled to the property that secured the loan"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_National_Bank_of_Montgomery_vs_Jerome_Daly

Next day and a new future for millions -

"However, the bank appealed the next day, and the decision was ultimately nullified on the grounds that a Justice of the Peace did not have the power to make such a ruling. The nullification did not address the case's merits."

"I always think that impartiality is in our DNA - it's part of the BBC's genetic make-up.

Anyone who thinks differently doesn't really understand how the organisation works and how seriously we take issues around balance and impartiality."

Ref https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2010/09/

Yes very interesting, then why not tell the truth about fractional reserve banking ? Ive never heard it on the BBC

Its laughable to talk about balance and impartiality when you have a state that locks people up for not paying for its propaganda material and a fortune to "stars" for blabbing nonsense.

Come on Helen Boaden go on Newsnight and talk about fractional reserve banking, personal and govt debt just for "balance and impartiality" Tell everyone that banks are allowed to embezzle and rigg markets, price inflation and asset bubbles and tell us just for 'balance and impartiality' whose fault it is ?

Im all ears Helen Boaden.

#8

It's only a song, ja, made extraordinarily famous by the already getting on in years Edith Piaf but I'm quite sure she regretted lots of things in her past. I do skate to some of her songs but I do not consider myself all that similar to her. She didn't particularly appreciated other female singers and women and seemed at loggerheads with most of her female contemporaries. Apparently also she slept with a few German officers during World War II, something I can't imagine doing myself. Sleeping with the enemy is not something I approve of. My opinion on that is as strong as that although at heart I'm a liberal kind of person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP69L-aCQmA

Adrian Douglas of GATA talks about fractional gold banking

"this is a joke"

NN is now "Friday Night with Jeremy Paxman", perhaps we can have a bet between ourselves here on this blog as to the identity of the most vapid celeb he will interview in the next 12 months, I'll start with Lindsay Lohan.

Meanwhile in the real world everything is spinning out of control, from the global financial crisis to the wars, this is how the world ends, to thunderous applause.

Rickards @ 14.30 mins

'Japan could get militant and develop nukes'

https://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/TV_Shows/Lang_&_O%27Leary_Exchange/ID=1602476688

you a masochist, ja?? No, never.

#16

The world has heard of it coming to an end many a time, 'turbo', but to a thunderous applause?? I haven't heard of it myself before.

MY CHOICE FROM THE VACUOSI (#16)

Wossi.

so the bbc is to offer 'career-average benefit pension' ?

so nothing related to how well the investment does then? which still makes it a ponzi that will require ever higher licence fees.

I wanna see Rachel Brice dancing around Paxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnYYK07lGFc

man she is something

#6

I have opened your link, Mistress76uk, and was immediately put off from it by one word in particular, although in no way am I squeamish or a prude, and therefore did not bother with reading it. Then I watched a few seconds of his show in New York and was also put off it. It ain't my type of humour, etc.

You say he does charity work. That's just the only thing so far that I would consider as having any value.

Is it dress down in the gutter Friday?

Why pad out Newsnight with an interview with irritating, light entertainer Russell Brand? At least Ken Dodd's an agreeable chap, though interviewing him was dull too. Can't we have something a bit more interesting, please? Newsnight's supposed to be for people who have a few working brain cells at least.

Absolutely LOVED tonight's interview by Jeremy with Russell Brand - my favourite comedian :o) This is a classic - up in the top 5 in fact! Jeremy's right all this censoring etc is stifling creativity...the most ridiculous being the trillions of pages which need to be signed before any interview is now broadcast. What a waste. Even Jeremy was impressed by him.
It's all the Daily Wail(Mail) readers who were into the non-story about Andrew Sachs. The rest of us thought it was funny.

'NEW GENERATION' - SAME OLD WANDERING BLOBS ON THE REVIEW WALLS.

How can such wielders of gravitas, as Portillo and Greer, sit in a Play School studio without asking someone to TURN THE BLOODY BLOBS OFF?

For the avoidance of doubt, I left the room the moment the child actor turned up. I presume this will be a regular feature? (It is in keeping with having that irrelevant Yank on Question Time.)

Oh - it's all going awfully well.

Next time you buy a cheap pineapple think about this article and film

https://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2010/oct/01/high-cost-cheap-pineapples-supermarkets

After the Frank Field interview I switched off.

The report of IDS's 'victory' in creating a single universal benefit was greeted with what seemed like joy by Emily Maitliss on Newsnight tonight; there were no claimants interviewed and the only critics on were from the Tory thinktank, Civitas, (which strangely for a right wing outfit is actually worried about people falling through the cracks) and the inclusion of the extremist from the IEA who sounded like 1980's Tebbit! The last package on welfare on N/N did at least include some people at the sharp end of these reforms, the last being the introduction of a new disability medical test which even newly paraplegic ex military are failing! These reforms will be a disaster for millions especially disabled claimants who will see significant awards disappear, no mention of that in the package.

This desire and need for welfare change has been a constant given with the BBC who seem to have been willing govt to 'crack down on welfare' and introduce major reforms with Panorama, Saints and Scroungers', etc all focussing on the minority of dodgers, but why? We know the BBC isn't always impartial: it is famously 'not neutral on multi-culturalism' perhaps with the exception of the excellent Paul Mason it is the economic/social make up of the BBC News Teams which are still largely Oxbridge/privately educated, etc, people who have never been near the benefit system or likely to know people who use it.

It's partly Russell's mannerisms that are so off-putting in my view. He doesn't seem all that stupid and it was good to hear him apologise once again for the 'prank' on Andrew Sachs. If I were him I would start changing within himself rather than trying to come up with some great idea of how people should live and with what they could replace religion and communism. I'm sorry to say that yet again he hasn't made me laugh, and as far as competition with Jeremy goes, well... I'll leave you guessing.

mim

Yeah that bloke Paxman was talking to is a real blabberationist

if that's what it means to mess up the BBC then ok lets have more idiots blabbering nonsense.


The writer bloke on review should leave the typos in, humans are one big never ending, blabbing typo .


I'm going to go a blab typos in bed now.

#26

Has Jeremy told you, Mistress76uk, that he was impressed with Russell Brand? Perhaps the story with Andrew Sachs was a bit overblown, nevertheless it was very offensive for him to have received the message that he did on his answer phone. Fortunately, Russell is at leat apologetic about the incident. It might do him good, though, I think, to slow down a bit and reflect a bit moore. I would recommend a few long walks in the wilderness. If not in the wilderness, there are lots of beautiful parks in London. They can be very soothing.

Having read My Booky Wook 5 times, I have felt lost and confused as to why the serious media will not take Russell Brand seriously. Tonight, I watched Brand on ITV with Paul O’Grady – I was so cynical – Was this a PR stunt? Then suddenly an in depth interview with Paxman on BBC2! No – not possible, Paxman writes books on the history of chemical warfare- Brand writes books on biology, perversion and chemical abuse- Then it hit me…..none of this is important. I would never have considered watching Newsnight before (full of news, politics and reporters – how dull), and now I am addicted the chemistry between Brand and Paxman and it has made me realise what the BBC can really produce in terms of high quality content. Well Done Jeremy.

#28

I only buy expensive pineapples these days, Ecolizzy.

THEY ARE ONLY JOHNNIE FOREIGNER - THEY ARE LUCKY WE HAVEN'T FOUND A REASON TO BOMB THEM (#28 link)

How telling when the private farmer said 'organic takes far less work'!

I wonder if all global executives should have to report to a WI gathering, to be debagged like Tony? If they had to keep coming back (Tony ran away) until they stopped their evil ways, a lot might be achieved in reining-in tobacco, alcohol, banking and fruit-growing. The Harperson brigade isn't going to do it - that's for sure.

can someone tell me who the musician was at the end, i missed her name. thanks

IDS + FIELD + BRAND - IT MIGHT JUST WORK

Brand clearly is bright but feels he has to mask it with silliness. As such, he would probably be a good link between the stuffy parliamentarians, with no experience of the no-hoper mentality, and the human wreckage that I would guess Brand 'gets'.

Put Brand on the team.

Confusion seems to reign these days, on a global scale, and yet light starts breaking through the cracks here and there. The crack bit, I have to admit, I've borrowed from Leonard Cohen's 'Anthem'. Thank you, Mr Cohen for your songs.

mim

#36

How about adding fruit cakes to your list, singie? In fact, personally I would leave it as the only item on your reining-in itinerary.

"6. At 7:48pm on 01 Oct 2010, mimpromptu wrote:

Thanks, Mistress76uk, for the link which i'm going to watch before tonight's programme. I've felt a bit guilty all day for critiquing Russell so harshly without really knowing his work much."

Don't feel guilty, it was an accurate observation. Put in his name and DJ's assessment into Google. Our culture has been celebrating such behaviour for far too long. is it on its way out now?.

"Russell Brand, comedian, columnist, actor, author, radio/TV presenter and self-confessed narcissist, who once claimed - not entirely jokingly, one suspects - that he has never knowingly Googled anything other than his own name, is reading out an article."


https://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/stage/comedy/article4950820.ece


. At 8:00pm on 01 Oct 2010, JAperson wrote:

"But, strangely some might consider, the points made in the previous paragraph are at the root of many of the reasons I enjoy this board and keep coming back to it. (Masochism cannot entirely be ruled out of
course!) This is despite the ‘fact’ that the Corporation increasingly seem to be ‘hiding’ this site!"

That's because it's actually a portal to Magrathea. We're slowly deconstructing the old Earth and leaking out the new one ever so surreptitiously .We can't have just anyone looking in - most of them are Oppositionally Defiant anarchists out there! We have a few test subjects on this blog.

#36 HHhhmm Barrie I think we ought to take note of the way these people have to survive, it's coming to britain soon. : (

Especially as I've just read this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/8037991/Polish-migrants-returning-to-Britain.html

It would be hard to find a reason to bomb them, they are a neutral pacifist country and got rid of their forces in 1949.

I think we should enlighten Russell Brand that he's just substituted drug supply with audience 'supply', and that the origin of this behaviour is very probably genetic/developmental. It certainly isn't that our culture creates this behaviour. This Libertarian culture just licences it, and massively rewards it. It now provides an opportunity for such people and their agents to massively profit from dysfunctional behaviour. So much for John Rawls and his Fairness/Difference Principle. I blame Dreben (but he wasn't alone in opening up this conduit).

What a dull opening presentation to the Review Programme. Four studio guests (including the ubiqitous Portillo) sitting in a group round Kirsty, looking as if they expect the jury to find them guilty.

And what a wonderful thing in the Paxman interview, to see Russell Brand show some contrition for his infamous boo-boo, whilst coincidentally bringing out a new book.

Glad to know the money for every TV licence fee I ever paid, and that paid by several million others, has gone towards such a worthy cause in 14 minutes and 49 seconds.

It did elicit something out of the ordinary though. Paxman actually laughed heartily. Could be a Youtube hit! The Laughing Paxman.

I shouldn't think Ed Miliband is/would be impressed with Newsnight's ending tonight, if he's watched it. If he hasn't, he's bound to hear about it. As he said more or less to the effect that one shouldn't preach what one doesn't practice, I think he couldn't be further away from being even considered as one of Mao's children. And anyway, even if we do inherit this or that characteristic from our parents, we're hardly ever precisely like them or, in fact, very different indeed.

Monika

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7awFypTnrOw

#42

How about brushing up a bit on your history, Ecolizzy? Was it the Poles themselves getting rid of their armed forces in 1949?

#41

My feeling of guilt was real. What's wrong with feeling guilty if one is wrong or unjust? /To this day I carry a feeling of guilt about something I said to a friend when I was about 21 and am still hoping to have the opportunity to apologise. It marked, in some ways, what was quite a beautiful friendship though not at all reminiscent of the one from 'Casablanca'/. I've written above what my impressions are of Russell now that I've seen a bit more of him and his work on stage, and my recommendations for him are only recommendations. He's probably going to ignore them anyway.

#44

I've seen Jeremy laugh before.

How about adding 'sado' to 'masochistic', 'clown' - jj, tb01, ja and whoever else you signs as? Have you got now a driving licence, a real one, that is?

Isn't it awful and tragic if a woman resorts to killing herself because of harassment by a maniac?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20101001/tuk-suicide-pact-woman-complained-about-dba1618.html

Let's hope the Police do find the harassers who should be duly prosecuted.

I think the origin of his behaviour during that interview was based on his fear of being out thought by Paxman and mentally/emotionally bowled out. He felt he had to amp it up and 'serve major heat' He certainly has an ego the size of a mountain but I dont think he has a personalty disorder. Some who seem to obsessed by diagnosing the problem maybe part of the problem being as they go looking for what they want to find.

Just a skilled blab artist - fits in nicely with TV, radio and internet.

"What a dull opening presentation to the Review Programme. Four studio guests (including the ubiqitous Portillo) sitting in a group round Kirsty, looking as if they expect the jury to find them guilty."

visually agreed, If I were directing that I would be looking to develop a dynamic but the studio does look limited. Need to get closer in, get some diagonals, perspective and strong complimentary colours going on.

Kirsty has taken to waring black again this is fine but I recall her waring a finely stripped horizontal top which was exquisite and visually striking . A lot of women are afraid of looking stupid and not confident of their visual judgments. Let me tell you something: It has to fit very well on the shoulders and thighs, not stick out, minimal physical design with strong geometric visual pattern and the face made symmetrical. The hair must be close to the face with straight diagonals. I adore looking at exquisitely dressed women sadly few can do it these days.

One should never complain about the creativity of stars:

'Stable forms of magnesium are produced in stars. It is made from fusing helium and neon, in the so-called alpha process. Creation requires temperatures above 600 megakelvins and masses greater than 3 solar masses.' from Free Wikipedia

They are vital to our lives and have been since the so-called beginning of time

#53 addendum

There are stars and STARS though:

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01102010/58/league-fletcher-rebuked-judge.html

mim

Jeremy Paxman meets...........

I am in a quandary. I do not think NN is the right place for such narcissistic ‘celeb’ interviews, yet I am glad that they did this one. My viewing habits seldom lead me towards anything delivered by the likes of Mr Brand yet one can barely escape his hold on the public and the media. So here was a chance to see and hear what all the fuss is about. And I am darned if I can see it.

I shall have to leave Mr P’s responses (professional or personal) to another place and time and focus on the darting eyed, schizoid, camera loving, scatterbrained, not unintelligent guest.

Brand clearly has education and learning and is quick of mind but simply too full of the self importance of his look at me ‘new age narrative’ message and ‘how do I look’ to actually take a nano second to formulate a response a little more considered and less manic. His ‘self effacing comments I fear came across as totally disingenuous as they were delivered amidst far too much shifty sideways glances to camera. Did I once see his gaze focus on the face/eyes of his inquisitor? I shall watch again (the full interview) carefully but I suggest not.

As for the famous downfall antics and its fallout – Jeremy was right – it was overkill - but it was led by the media, in this case, not unsurprisingly the over the top indignant daily mail and the sheeples they manipulate. Yes the act was tasteless and unnecessary. Yes, it raised questions as to the nature of output (do we call it creativity or ??????) the BBC and other broadcasters are prepared to label ‘entertainment’. And yes, action should have been taken against all those involved, not least I am sure the editor who with the benefit of hindsight thought the entertainment value outweighed the bad taste of the event. Shame on those sheeples who actually thought it ‘funny’. But these details are all water under the bridge and already over debated.

But, what this also did, was point quite clearly at the source of the ploughed trough that masquerades as ‘entertainment’. Who really is the Peter Pan to Brand’s Tinkerbell/Hook hybrid? Who the family man approaching 50 who strives to reach the bottom of the barrel and descend to the u bend at every possible opportunity; and who the still pubescent (15 years the junior) who by his own account may have had too close a relationship with mind altering substances?

Fascinating insight, but possibly NOT the one Mr Brand hoped he was giving!

PERHAPS WE SHOULD BOMB OURSELVES 9/11 STYLE? (#42)

Fair point Lizzy. I have 'thought it out again'. We could declare an emergency, with blackout (lights and news) then bomb ourselves. This would present lots of ready-dug holes to be filled in; thin out the population (see Bro's link #46) and gear up the arms industry. Low-carbon eco-bombs of course

There is no problem with ethics - we have none.

THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT ?/! (#55)

Hi there Elsie. You are 'cooking with Hydrogen' methinks.

I am using blatantly your post to make the point - again - that The Ape Confused by Language is deeply maladapted to the modern environment. Just as we live too long and gather 'diseases of old age', so Confused Ape lives in physical ease but psychological hell - and goes barmy.

Probably the most damaging factor of all is TV. I have a deep suspicion that it bypasses all 'higher function' and talks DIRECTLY to the un-evolved ape in all of us.

I PREDICT THAT TV WILL (one day) BE SHOWN TO HAVE 'ALPHA MALE' STATUS in the family group. I make this assertion based on TVs 'installation' in a prominent position in the home, and the GROUP attention it ATTRACTS. If I have guessed right, we have a feedback loop of nihilism.

Watching Newsnight does nothing to dissuade me . . .

no.34 kenny royal

I agree, this is the kind of creative edge NN needs to use the power of celebrity to bring quality journalism and analysis back to the people.

I think the NN editorial team 'get it' actually and are trying to do this. As long as the prudish brigade are not allowed to poo poo it, it could be the start of a positive force for change.

Well done NN please embrace this approach ...go for it.. you are probably the only team who can and this stuff is actually really important as a necesarry precursor to create the desperately needed mainstream debate on the issues of our time beyond what we are currently being spoon fed by incresingly out of touch and dangerous vested corporate,media, finance an political interest.


C'MON...

Msg #41 DON'T PANIC!

H2G2 references (final paragraph) made me laugh out loud. Bet you wished one more blog post had got in before you.

A per pro nothing.........There is a rather fine Oyster yacht by the name of Magrathea

https://www.oystermarine.com/charter/Charter_fleet/Magrathea

- her inspiration obvious by the spinnaker monica (42). I could volunteer to 'leak' onto that for a brief sojourn. Another planet for sure.

#57 barriesingleton

"I PREDICT THAT TV WILL (one day) BE SHOWN TO HAVE 'ALPHA MALE' STATUS in the family group."

I would contend only with the word 'will' in that statement. have just re-read Ray Bradbury's wonderful 'Farenheit 451' and now appreciate the insight (science fiction some may say) in part of a work competed almost 50 years ago. spooky.

Tv to cocoon, surround-a-scene cyber relationships and all.

MAKE IT SO (#58)

May you be proved right Jericoa. Paradoxically, as I have suggested before, TV is probably the only medium that COULD reverse the rot. But it would take a broadcasting revolution on a par with The Enlightenment - one you seem to hint at?

LEAD ON!

It amuses me that people are saying 'well Russell Brand is clearly not stupid, but that interview is just an act..'

For those that listened to his radio show we know that while the show was both anarchic and madcap, it was also incredibly cerebral, as Brand is a very intelligent and well-educated guy (despite, or perhaps because, he didn't fit in / do well at school).

So if you think that Brand is changing his persona in an effort to compete with Paxman or appeal to Newsnight viewers to buy his book, you're precisely missing the point that Brand was making: the media portray him in a certain way that fits into their own narrative, but it isn't an accurate representation of what he's really like.

In other words - don't believe what you read in The Sun and The Daily Mail!

BRILLIANCE IS AS BRILLIANCE DOES (#62)

Is not the ultimate brilliance to be unobtrusive with it?

'Those who do the most good are seldom noticed'.

Brand is secondary to BBC Enlightenment as mooted at #58.

https://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/hot-topics/galleries/TMG8035239/78/In-pictures-Anna-Wintours-fashion-week-style-round-up.html

Women take note! this is how to do it - striking yet simple and clean. Vertical lines make the eye go up and down the body and accentuate gently curved lines, this express's elegance. The silver and blue is dazzling yet controlled by simplicity. And nothing sticking out.

#61

BBC Enlightenment.

I had not thought of it in those terms Barrie until you mentioned it, but yes, a kind of media led Enlightenment that bucks the trend of the current cartel of sickeningly leveraged rhetoric is probably ineviatable at some point as the pressure builds against the current system. An enlightenment that harnesses the power of celebrity and media to distribute a new type of awareness to the mainstream.

I found it fascinating when it was touched on in the interview and your post above, almost jokingly, that celebrities and the TV in the corner most pay homage to every night are the new 'gods', we all know how powerful a message or tranforming philosophy can become when the influence of the gods is invoked to promote awareness of a messgae which is 'of its time'.

Was it not ever so?

I will be made redundant on the 8th of October which affords me a window of opportunity to have another go to plant a few seeds on the lines as above again before the necesities of supporting my family come to intervene again. I have afew ideas of seeds to plant, hopefully one of them will take this time, one can but try to promote what you believe to be right in a peaceful way, that is enough.

#65

AMEN TO THAT JERICO.

(Sorry about the redundancy - good luck in the Mammonsphere.)

Why is everyone on this forum rude and arrogant?

#67 hi

Hi

I don't know, but perhaps it's the same reason that some people make sweeping unsubstantiated assumptions.

WITH RESPECT - NOT EVERYONE (#67)

Hi Hi. We do have one or two arrogance specialist, but it's genetic so must be accepted.

However, being peremptory is NOT genetic, so you have no excuse. (:o)

What soil are you planning to plant your seeds, Jerico?

By the way, does your name suggest of Jeremy's company or cooperative by any chance? I know you are not Paxo, if that is the 'connection' you're making, but please do not ask me how I know. It's a secret. A big secret.

With due apologies to the late Professor Hans Eysenck.

Last night’s programme was purely and simply about ....

IDS and Egos.

I turned over when the Ego part started!



And ....

I necessarily have to repeat myself !

Mr Go-very-fast - particular on new education policies - has done it again. He needs something to get the rest of the Borg out of it’s stupor and on to it’s feet at the forthcoming ‘meeting of minds’ sic so he is letting it be known (Again!) that he is going to change the rules for schools so that Teachers can ‘restrain' violent pupils where necessary!

To attempt to counter this policy pipe-dream again I will say .... again ....

The law was properly and satisfactorily amended in the late nineties to allow exactly the same outcome as he is proposing now!

Teachers will not intervene! They have been told by Head-teachers not to intervene!

This I know!

Why, because the Teaching Unions and the School’s Insurance Companies ....

Have instructed against it!

And in doing so ....

They are guilty of creating their own demons!

Just wonderin', but might NN invite on famous BBC-favoured luvvie Richard Curtis to chat about what he's been up to lately? Maybe from one of his several big, possibly hard to heat homes.

No reason.

#71

Do you claim, ja, not to have one then? Can you say with your right hand on your heart and the left on your skull that you are completely and utterly devoid of an ego?

#72

Who is Richard Curtis? I haven't heard of this 'luvvie', as you call him?

I think we should enlighten Russell Brand that he's just substituted drug supply with audience 'supply', and that the origin of this behaviour is very probably genetic/developmental. It certainly isn't that our culture creates this behaviour. This Libertarian culture just licences it, and massively rewards it. It now provides an opportunity for such people and their agents to massively profit from dysfunctional behaviour. So much for John Rawls and his Fairness/Difference Principle. I blame Dreben (but he wasn't alone in opening up this conduit).

52. At 08:03am on 02 Oct 2010, flicks2 wrote:

"He certainly has an ego the size of a mountain but I dont think he has
a personalty disorder. Some who seem to obsessed by diagnosing the
problem maybe part of the problem being as they go looking for what they
want to find."

What you are telling us (with little insight alas) is that you don't
have enough experience in this area to make an accurate assessment, and
so are a very poor judge of this behaviour. He was presumably chosen for
the programme because a) his behaviour fits the criteria so well, and b)
because of the damage which this behaviour has done to the BBC in
general (and it wasn't just Brand, it was SOCKSGATE etc). Paxman was
just drawing the behaviour out as interviewers are paid to do.

Try to pay attention a little better, and you may learn something
useful.

Please cut down the amount you are posting on FRB pseudo-economics and
political propaganda. You don't understand economics any more than
jauntycyclist understands philosophy and politics. Nor will either of
you learn from instruction as this has been explained to you in detail
but you persist. That makes me at least wonder why you post to a blog
like this. Do you ever really question whether you have grasped
what's going on or do you just look for material which reinforces your
prejudices?

All that the BBC and other media vendors are doing is euphemizing the
grotesque freak shows of earlier times. Brand etc are well paid to be
'exploited'. Do they burn out? Just look at many before him, and look
into the drug, alcohol, relationship abuse. It's classic. Yet you will
see people in this blog, like elsewhere, drawn to this. What does that
tell you about them? It's just diversity in action of course. This
culture doesn't create the behaviour, it breeds it and then finds a
place of expression for it. What's odd is how we have come to highly
reward non normal behaviour. This is where Rawls' Difference Principle
has taken us, and it is no accident. It's been subversive, and it
favours a specific minority - which requires some thought and attention
to detail. Perhaps the new version of the Equality Act 2010 may actually
redress that, as Protected Characteristics are not, as I read it, to
differentially advantage these people either. Have a look at the
relevant clauses and see what you think.

Look up comorbidities, and look up his personal history (se also Fry).
These people make no secret of any of this. They write books about it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Brand

Why do people confuse grandiosity with intelligence/ability? This is
exaggerated, pathological behaviour. It is not a role model. It's a
combination of euphemised voyeurism on the part of the audience coupled
with unrealistic conceptions of what is viable and sustainable in human
behaviour. The media expects audiences to suspend disbelief because it
only requires them to see this behaviour in rehearsed (or prepared for)
small doses/bursts of showmansip. Normal people are not like this
because they are healthier.

Wow! Mr Paxman just slightly gobsmacked by Russell Brand!

Until last night's interview, I've always dismissed Brand as a sensation seeker of little merit so now, Russell, I apologise. Last night's interview demonstrated your brilliance of mind. Thank you for the entertainment of Jeremy’s face, and thank you BBC for two camera’s in one interview.

If I have to put up with his occasional stupidity, so be it. Russell's trademark, raving, messianic delivery often makes me cringe but I realise it's partly my British upbringing at fault; I will teach myself to give him the benefit.

Last night he showed such a fine mind and inspiring thought-speed. He may have come late to the party but he is a blast of fresh air which should be directed up the back-stairs of the well-meaning beancounters and their media moguls friends.
Their influence needs resisting heartily and that interview hit the bull. BBC take note, we don't like your tepid comedy now you've turned the we-don't-dare-air-conditioning ON.

Quite right Newsnight, thank you for exposing the even more stupid overreaction to his latenight radio exploits. This is why we have poor journalism. Supported by the advertising media circus, once they see an opening to resurrect all their pet projects, they dive for the gap with fervour. Once it’s opened, of course, it can rarely be dammed properly, again.

This stifling environment around programme creation needs to be adjusted back and this wonderful interview is should help.

Please don’t forget your promise to put the full-length interview up on the website.

THE BRIGHT UNWATCHABLES (#27)

Along with Brand we have Dawkins, Patrick Moore, The Gamut of Dragons, Jeremy Kyle and a lot more I have forgotten.

Then there are 'bright unhearables' - ear-maddening presenters such as Quentin Cooper and Daniel the Weather-Man (and all the lisping weather-girlies).

Let's just have people who know their stuff; who don't have a yen to be a legend in their lifetime.

#76

So you're not into Guinness drinking puppets staging shows at your command, table1? Do you consider that normal?

#79
And how about sending people off to sit on benches?

Responses to .....

14. At 8:56pm on 01 Oct 2010, mimpromptu wrote:




Ah .... Edith Piaf ... One song, lots of memories!

But it might be that you are wrong to indirectly condemn her ‘survival instinct’! ( ?Love, Lust or emotional needs!) I do not know what I would have done given the ‘sorrow’ of the French people during those times and I suspect neither do you! I would like to think that I would have gone down with the MP 38 chattering, a Gaulloise dangling and a Mam’selle fawning but ..... Would you, as a woman, really not have used your most valuable assets to survive? Think again! Seriously ...... Think again!

If the French have anything to consider reconsidering sic it is the horror that individuals in the mob used to suppress their own faux pas ..... Shaven heads, tarring and feathering!

Those are crimes!

Consensual sex. A crime? ..... Not!

French women! ......The most beautiful in the world ..... Discuss!

Now there’s a subject for a Nn slot!



At 9:58pm on 01 Oct 2010, mimpromptu wrote:

Forgive me! I was under the impression we all are! Just some can’t admit it ... Even to themselves!


41. At 00:15am on 02 Oct 2010, tabblenabble01 wrote:

Both links .....

Oi’l giv it phoive!


At 01:29am on 02 Oct 2010, mimpromptu wrote:

Were I to be both - assuming I could possibly be wise enough to recognise it or foolish enough to admit it - it would seem to be a little bit pointless as, (by definition of the people ‘on the top deck’) surely one would cancel out the other! Or maybe, perhaps, it would be twice as much ‘fun’ ..... I couldn’t, wouldn’t, shouldn’t possibly comment!

And as for being elevated to the likes of jj, tb01 ( Why did you not add gnuneau? ) that IMVHO is perhaps the first foolish thing I can recall you having said!

If he whom wears the crown, cherishes the crown and defends it ....

Deserves it!

As for the Driving License .... Never had one!

The planet is way too important!

From Jim Willie:-

https://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1285794000.php

JJ/table

As I recall from one of your cyber harassment replies you dont understand the fundamental of FRB stating that "leverage is more important" when its the FRB system that allows reserves to be leveraged in the first place.


As others have said - you seem to suffer from the very disorders you speak of. Gangofone had a riot with you on that.

Robin Griffiths on KWN

https://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2010/10/2_Robin_Griffiths.html

"gold and silver are both money have been for thousands of years"

very funny to see Emily pretending to empathise with the life of a 'single mother on benefit' as if she has a clue what's that like.

Brand

the bbc 'rehabilitation'? Must have friends in high places.

No Strike

BBC Management have caved in and said yes to ponzi pensions? Is this the type of management 'talent' that get paid more than the PM? So when do they start managing?

Please can you let me know where is the link to the extended version of the interview that was alluded to during the programme?

#81

you'll never wear a crown, ja, even if you know somebody who might one day. As for the survival instinct, I do have a strong one but it does not what you consider having 'fun'. It's real love that matters not some kind of cheap and vulgar substitute.

Beautiful women? They are everywhere as there are not so beautiful ones everywhere. And I might just as well add that talent does not necessarily combine with physical beauty. Piaf was only one such example and look how many men she had at her feet.

#85 addendum

I forgot to mention gnu even if he keeps reminding me of himself quite often, including today, in a Royal Place, would you believe?

#74 update

I've now checked up on Richard Curtis and in fact have seen quite a few things made by him which I did like.

#84 Paul Neale

Try this

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/9053238.stm

an extra 5 minutes or thereabouts.

barriesingleton #78

'Then there are 'bright unhearables' - ear-maddening presenters such as Quentin Cooper and Daniel the Weather-Man (and all the lisping weather-girlies).'

So glad I am not alone re Daniel the Weatherman. It's like he's performing to a kindergarten, with us all sitting in a semi-circle on the classroom floor.

Recall one day he was pointing on the map to a 'blue' area of rain over the country telling us this would soon move away to the continent, at which point he turned and waved at it saying in a soft, infantile tone 'bye-bye'.

I thought the channel had switched itself to CBeebies.

Though in fairness he's not the only one who speaks to viewers in patronising tones. I think presenters receive special training in it these days.

Webster Tarpley seeing the HFT flash crash as an attempt to destroy the euro :-

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#47 Mim I was talking about Costa Rica to Barrie at #36, not Poland!

Look at the pineapple link, and how the people there are exploited. I think you commented you didn't buy cheap ones, try to buy the "organic" ones grown by the small farmers.

And my link about Polish workers coming here, is not because I dislike the Poles, I'm just wondering what jobs they are going to do with the massive unemployment that's about descend.

Oh and thanks for your link to the "lord", I've never bothered looking him up. I rather wonder about all this genealogy stuff, one of my relatives worked it out, royalty are always recorded, unlike serfs. Hhhmm but how do you know that you really are descended from them would be my question, many a woman goes astray! ; )

FLICKS 2 (#90)

Not hard to find where Flicks 2 was pointing.

IT CERTAINLY GIVES PAUSE FOR THOUGHT.

Ed'll fix it (with some help from special adviser James G Brown).

#91

Ecolizzy

I obviously misunderstood your sentence in italics and I know you are not either a racist or any other nation hater. I do also appreciate your worry about too many immigrants coming to the UK. However, they do also seem to contribute significantly to the British economy and hopefully eventually things will even themselves out.

As far as being a royalty descendant, I'm not aware of being one myself, although there is a possibility that the Swiss/French side of my family does have some kind of royal roots while I always wondered whether my surname does not indicate a link to the Bourbons. I'd like to find out a bit more about both sides of my family tree but so far we only go back in our knowledge of it to the beginning of the 19th century.

Thanks for writing to me, Ecolizzy

mim

#91

Re: pineapples

I was only kidding, Ecolizzy. I only occasionally buy either pineapple juice or dry pineapples.

'SIMPLE EFFECTIVE AND FAIR' - IDS WELFARE

Has it got a snappy title? How about 'THE NEW CRUELTY' (L A Story)

If it all goes politics-shaped, will IDS resign? Thought not.

'New Generation' is even creamier.

I have not laughed so much for ages at the brilliant sketch of the inauguration of our `dear Ed,` at the end of the Friday News night.
David Keddie

ecolizzy 91#

'I rather wonder about all this genealogy stuff...'

I wonder about it too. If I traced some long lost relative and they turned out to be like some of them I already know...urghh!

A piece of good and positive news: London architects Zaha Hadid win the Riba Stirling Prize:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11456875

mim

#70

Hi mim, not that interesting I am afraid, just a shortened version of the name of the beach where I met my wife 'jericoacoara' in the north east of brazil.

It was a small fishing village back then with no electricity in the early 90's.

https://www.jericoacoara.com/j1/pages/english/place.php

The name means 'turtle holes' in the local indian dialect with reference to the numneorous sea turtles that used to lay eggs there, but noboddy knows for sure, certainly nothing to do with bibles, walls and trumpets.

Like Dahab on the Sinai peninsula when I visited there in the 80's when it was still under UN peacekeeping control I asked where the toliet was and the guy pointed to the red sea, the shower was a piece of sagging cloth with holes punched in it slung between supports with a small ladder and a bucket next to the fresh water well.

Both places have learnt to cater for those who follow in the wake of the adventurous since, seeking to have a similar experience as I had but 'in comfort' , they tend to come away with a faint taste of 'ash' in thier mouths.


I don't have any affiliation with any group or religion, I keep trying with NEF but they are only interested in me increasing the level of my donation to them so they can 'do more important research' and 'write more stuff' presumably all within the comfort of thier offices within the London bubble.....


to steal Barries strapline.

'it is all going awfully well'

#99

Is it now? Going awfully, you mean? No good without the trumpets.