Friday 10 September 2010

royal mail

more market fundamentalism. no john lewis model. because market fundamentalism has a long history of 'success'?

look at your gas bill then look at the european gas price then ask for whom privatisation has been a 'success'.

once again the ponzi pension scheme model blows up as they all will.

the uk govt are, despite the evidence of the credit crisis, unreformed market fundamentalists. Einstein said to keep repeating the same actions expecting a different outcome is madness.

pastor with a congregation of about fifty on a good day holding the world to ransom....must be a slow newsday

'we'll be considering how the story escalated into an international event '

With little introspection on personal complicity, one is sure.

Or critique of how appeasing PC world leaders, instead of telling their own to stop being plonkers and others to stop playing the faux outrage card once too often, pretty much set up any anger-monger to be 'justifiably' outraged whilst pointed those with small brains and big grudges in the direction of the nearest army recruitment office to air their rather uni-directional grievances. Again.

I feel so well represented, and led my our politico-media establishment. Not.

"And we will hear from the US journalist Ted Koppel who controversially claims that the devastating attacks of 9/11 succeeded far beyond anything Osama bin Laden could possibly have hoped for and that "over the past nine years, the United States has blundered into the 9/11 snare with one overreaction after another".

We will also hear from the former speech writer to George W Bush, David Frum, who insists that the US did not overreact."


a choice even FoxNews would be proud of.

1. the muslinks did it, dey are happy wid de results, it was all bin laden. The us overreacted, (there was no history BEFORE 9/11 mind you, we can forget such US acts as coups, invasions, assassinations and sanctions upon muslim populations etc), which wasn't America's fault - bcaues it was all planned by the evil Muslims, and America just fell into their traps.

2. there was no history before 9/11, America was just a white shining night in armour wanting to bring peace and democracy to the world, and those evil muslinks attacked without warning, and got everything they deserved. In fact, 'we' should go further, and destroy ANY Muslim nation that shows any disagreement with the US, as "disagreement leads to terrorism" with Muslims, who are a savage, murderous breed, and are faaar too emotional ever to engage in rational conversation and debate. Top of the list is Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Sudan, Palestine, but the Gulf states sometimes get uppity, and the Saud's should also eventually get a pasting, just to be on the safe side.

in summary, the US had no choice, they are peace-loving hippies, but those evil muslims *FORCED* the US to act militarily with their couple of remaining Marine corps and battered old land-rovers left over from WW2, where they also battered the muslims closest relatives - the nazis.

bin laden and al qieda had *nothing* to do with senior American Establishment figures, the PNAC report calling for a middle east war long before 9/11 was a coincidence, no bin laden video was dodgy, there is still WMD in Iraq buried under the sand somewhere, and poor widdle Americans are just victims, as per usual. Victimised by the Vietnamese, by the Nicaraguans, by the Cubans - seriously, the Palestinians have NO notion of how easy they have it, compared to what Americans have to face daily!!


wow, its *really* going to be a worthwhile watch tonight.

#1, jaunty: a flawed education system prevents citizens from understanding what is happening, and a flawed media prevents awareness and discussion of what is happening.

those who have stolen in the past, and called it "privatisation" have gotten away with it. Why should today's thieves think anything is different now??

"the uk govt are, despite the evidence of the credit crisis, unreformed market fundamentalists."

Yes, as is the USA and the EU. But that has been the case for a long time. The alternative is socialism/communitarianism, and both the UK and the USA went to war to prevent that from spreading, not only in Eastern Europe and Russia after 1917 (the Whites vs Reds civil war), but in the 1940s and afterwards (Korea and Vietnam) too. Then enormous resources were invested in The Cold War. The Liberal-Democratic (Libertarian) system (under which we now live) can not be easily changed, as it's a system. That system is supported by law, and our elected representatives have to follow our laws. Do you fully appreciate how constraining limiting that is upon all concerned? That is how this political war has been fought, and some would say we are now losing it.

Dearest ExPenSive Anti Beeb/boob can you D rag my post 63 from previous page and post it somwhere else, have we still got a post office? or has the office been posted?

I am posting myself 2 Karaoko/a? 2night

"As the Labour leadership contest enters its final weeks, Liz Mackean reports from Bristol where the five hopefuls - Diane Abbott, Ed Balls, Andy Burnham, David Miliband and Ed Miliband - meet a Newsnight focus group of 12 former Labour voters."

Wasn't the entire New Labour Project just a cynical set up dreamt up in the USA to ultimately make the electorate hate the idea of socialism whilst a) economically serving the interests of the retail and banking sectors through making cheap money available to naive consumers as debt and then b) using that indebtedness to strip them of what little remained of their public sector?


3. At 4:14pm on 10 Sep 2010, JunkkMale wrote:
'we'll be considering how the story escalated into an international event '

With little introspection on personal complicity, one is sure."

Well said. It escalated because the BBC etc saw this as a great opportunity to grab attention.

Perhaps this provides an insight into Mimpromptu's behaviour?

Is BBC broadcasting best seen as a desperate corporate mating call in these twilight years as the nation's public sector withers away?

Less police = less crime and greater 'efficiency'?

Rationale: With less police to record crime and less to detect crime there will be fewer prosecutions and convictions,.leading to a reduction in the prison population in time too. Then all they have to do is to work on the British Crime Survey so that people don't report as much crime either. As such surveys are no inevitably statistically flawed, this could be justified in terms of cuts to wasteful public expenditure.

Problems solved

#8

my behaviour or my posts? how do you know about my behaviour, may I ask, 'table'? have you been trying to 'attract' my attention yourself and are now displeased?

"9. At 8:03pm on 10 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:
#8

my behaviour or my posts? how do you know about my behaviour, may I ask, 'table'? have you been trying to 'attract' my attention yourself and are now displeased? "

Your posts are some of your behaviour.

In your posts you frequently (and explicitly) tell readers what you get up to, and in great detail (whether they want to know or not). You then get rather concerned that anyone's actually noticed, and sometimes even threaten to report them to 'the authorities'!

Are there many more like you back home in Poland (smile)?

PS. Please don't report me to MI5 etc.

..."I don't understand why a heavily indebted Gazprom goes round buying downstream assets when it needs to spend large amounts on getting gas out of the ground."...

https://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/sep/10/gazprom-neft-total-petrol-stations-gas

as a govt advisor i'm sure you don't.it allows them to build contacts without raising suspicion. russia, china etc doesn't think economically when it can think strategically. when invading a country get the troops on the beach. worry about the 'economics' later.



the uk political process institutionalises incompetence which is why we get the 'guardian' class we do. no strategic thinking and short termism. russia and china can think 20-40 years ahead.

#58 from previous page

Are you omnipotent, jaunty? How do you know I spoil it for 'everyone'? Have you spoken to 'everyone'? My impression is that there may be a few people who might be interested for real in what I'm about. Otherwise I would certainly not bother and would consider it a waste of time.

By the way, how are you getting on with cycling, 'cyclist', and what colour is your push bike, if it's not too an intrusive question, that is?

#11

So you are a government advisor or is it 'you' that you mention in line 5 of your text? It doesn't seem at all clear, not to me at least.

11. At 8:41pm on 10 Sep 2010, jauntycyclist wrote:

"the uk political process institutionalises incompetence which is why we get the 'guardian' class we do. no strategic thinking and short termism.
russia and china can think 20-40 years ahead."

You're not going to like this, but, yes - but as is frequently said here, THAT is the very nature of Liberal-Democracy i.e very SMALL GOVERNMENT where determination of value is left to anarchistic (largely unregulated) market-forces (largely the Financial Service sector these days), and not the 'nanny-state'. The state is effectively the enemy of Libertarians and serious cold (and even hot) wars are waged against them (think Iraq most recently), as they are allegedly sponsors of 'terrorism'. Not too long ago you were even suggesting that the largest of them was uncivilized.

See how irrational we human beings are, we are silo thinkers, full of contradictions like Oedipus (because of lack of awareness)...

You'll need to really think hard about this.

12

..a few people who might be interested for real in what I'm about...

then do it on your bebo page. or terrified you will be ignored?

NN is for news and NN stories. not your inner personal detritus.

14

..THAT is the very nature of Liberal-Democracy ..

incompetence? so we are foisting incompetence upon iraq and afghanistan by military means? no wonder they fight against it. It must also be this incompetence is the reason why they are winning? and always will win.

people do not freely choose incompetence. because there is no good in it. thus the words Liberal-Democracy are jedi mind trick words that is a mask for that which is bad in human affairs because it denies a role for excellence and the good.

the uk does not even have a Liberal-Democracy. The uk is still under norman monarchy occupation and its institutions from national oath,national song, political structure etc reflect that fact. Iraqis and afghans have greater rights in democracy than we do. they can elect a head of state.

an example of the market fundamentalism incompetence combination of uk govt that provoked warning of a strategic threat from intelligence service that have been ignored because of dogma.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1165753/China-use-BT-network-launch-cyber-attack-cripple-Britain.html

the excuse for govt doing nothing is a market fundamentalist excuse of 'ministers are concerned that replacing the Chinese components with British parts would go against their policy on competition and would be too expensive'.

their concern is for their dogmas not national security or safety of the british people.

SECOND WAVE - AND WE ARE DROWNING IN ADVANTAGES(#16)

Were the Normans behind the EU oppression Jaunty? We really are a bunch of dimbos in perverse Albion!

I'm not sure whether I heard what Michael Crick said about Osborne's 4 billion cuts properly but it eventually came across that the 4 billion was not additional to the 11 billion cuts already promised but instead of the original 11 billion ?

WHAT WRITING SPEECHES FOR DUBYA CAN DO TO YOU

Frum should be in that Guinness book. His right eye never blinked while his left one looked as if it might close for renovation.

There is something about politicians - worldwide - that we need to investigate.

18

yes eu are extremists who believe in unlimited migration.

psychologically as a society we are no different to those black and white Saturday morning pictures serials about lost tribes in the jungle who are forced to worship idols with human sacrifice because the political priesthood says it stops 'the volcano' from exploding.

so we have all these idols of 'equality', market fundamentalism', monarchy role gaming etc that demand human sacrifice. As soon as people substitute the good as the highest idea of the mind for lesser terms consequences follow.

#15

But I want to post things like that Newsnight every now and then, jaunty, since I've met a few people who work on the programme, as well quite a few of their guests over the years, jaunty, and feel anyway that my story may perhaps serve as an example of sorts. Besides, at some stage I did ask them for help which has been most gratefully received.

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#23 to #26

Very 'inspirational', jan, in every sense of the word, linguistically, ethically and by implication. It sounds like you've found a 'wonderful' way of dreaming, table

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"the uk does not even have a Liberal-Democracy. The uk is still under norman monarchy occupation and its institutions from national oath,national song, political structure etc reflect that fact."

And we all originated in Africa.... Look, this is why you need some formal education in politics, economics and philosophy etc. Britain is a Liberal-Democracy and just has a Constitutional Monarchy (which is essentially ceremonial, as has been since the Restoration)) so please stop posting nonsense. Look into the things that I have advised you to look into, as you will find doing so to your advantage if you do.

I'm a bit concerned that (as with the country in general), it's getting a bit mad around here (in this blog) - sensible/sane people will leave if this continues.

"16. At 11:06pm on 10 Sep 2010, jauntycyclist wrote:
14

..THAT is the very nature of Liberal-Democracy ..

incompetence? so we are foisting incompetence upon iraq and afghanistan
by military means? no wonder they fight against it."

Yes. Why does all that surprise you? Is it because you misread what is
written here because you don't expect to read quality analysis here? Why
does it matter WHERE one reads analysis? The nature of Liberal-Democracy
really is minimal governance (anarchism). It is light (hidden) hand on
the tiller so that the wheels of finance can do their magic (but for
whom?). It takes great skill to draft and enact legislation which stops
the state from controlling markets. Recall Iraq had a National Socialist
government (see the history of the Baath Party) somewhat like the Soviet
Union and Germany (hence the latter two were allies, for how long
1939-41 or right to the end is still in dispute in some quarters.
National Socialism definitely swept westwards under the Hammer and
Sickle after the Swastika, hence the US and USSR rush to Berlin. Then
there was the Cold War. That was anarchism/libertarianism vs National
Socialism. If you look at he world since 1945 you'll see that has,
basically, been the battle, with National Socialists allegedly exporting
'terror' recently (hence the attack on the centre of finance un NYC
nearly a decade ago). Arab and Iranian Nationalism is anti-capitalist.
America to them is the Great Satan.

There are yet more BBC NEWS pieces on Catholics and child abuse (60s and
70s). But, as research shows that it appears to have been LOWER in
frequency in the Catholic church than in the general population, why is
the Catholic community being given such a high profile? What is the
frequency of this behaviour in the Church of England and Judaism for
example? Why are there NO reports on that? It is irrational surely? It
is also discriminatory is it not? Why is this discriminatory reporting
so common and why is it not vilified like other forms of group
discrimination? Can we have some pieces on child abuse amongst other
Christians, Jews and Hindus in the interest of balance please?

#31

you have 'great' interest in abuse, have you, tb01?

HUMAN SACRIFICE WILL APPEASE THE VOLCANO (#21)

You are talking my language Jaunty. I didn't get where I am today, without knowing when someone is talking my language.

Sadly, Perverse Albion has entrenched human sacrifice watched over by the High Priests of the Westminster Ethos, while the Church of EductionX3 ensures none escape indoctrination in the Creed of Consumption.

We all come to love Big Brother.

Some interesting and important points here although what he is getting at is the question of banksters ability to force liquidation of gold to service debt to them:-

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"6. The banksters don't need to crash gold and gold stocks to take the gold items most investors hold; they just need to hit it enough so those investors liquidate. Because they have near unlimited financial resources, the best charts and analysis mean very little when put into the market battlefield against the liquidity flows of the banksters."

"9. Let's all repeat together: Gold is a control mechanism. The banksters make most of their money from selling debt to people, gov'ts, corporations, and now, central banks. The more debt that is taken on, the more money the banksters make, provided the debtor can pay the interest on the debts. It really doesn't matter about the principal; what matters is the ability of the banksters to keep the debtor servicing a growing debt."

"14. Where I differ with most analysts, is my view is that these bank policy tools are not designed to restart the economy, but to raise asset prices. The purpose of raising asset prices is to allow the largest debtor, the gov't, to continue to service their debts, without defaulting. "

My advice to anyone walking past a bank is to think terrible thoughts and very importantly dont go near it physically or online. Associate it with anything that repulses you.

The Achilles heel of the banksters is making them irrelevant. To do that you dont need politics you just need to not use them as they are now and demand new ones that dont exploit with debt servitude.

Debt servitude is now really dawning on the middle class of this country as they see their teenage children getting into massive debt over university education.

What are you going to do about it ? Do you want your children for ever in debt ?

#33

'church of education x3', chemical singie, are nothing but greedy ox scroungers with no normal minds to speak of.

"32. At 09:34am on 11 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:
#31

you have 'great' interest in abuse, have you, tb01? "

Have you not been following the news recently Mimpromptu? This is why the programme and blog is called Newsnight and not Mimpromptunight.

I suggest a little more self-criticism would do you no harm Mimpromptu.
For example, I suggest you could look a little more closely at your ability to make fine and accurate discriminations in language. A little time in the study of study of logic might help you there. You keep asking questions, positing all manner of propositions which are quite clearly false, but when the facts of the matter are provided for you, that never seems to suffice. Does that remind you of anything? It should. It's how young children behave when they want attention/communication/comforting from adults.

Having been taking interest i'n the Royalty and titles bestowed by The Queen, I've checked whether there is currently a man with the title of the Duke of Cambridge. As there isn't one, I'm wondering who might choose the title i'n the future.

mim

Lucky Dip Leadership

not sure the michael foot look glasses is doing a lot for diane.

Frump.

what kind of metrics were used to identify the 'axis of evil'? Can one buy an evilometer?

the fact that a small publicity stunt has taken on a world wide crisis shows how on edge things are. The extremists view all the wars [chechnya, iraq, yemen, afghanistan, pakistan, palestine etc] as just battles in one big world war while the west refuses to recognise we are in a defacto world war. They are in the game ahead of the curve always ready to open up new fronts be they real or propaganda to provoke and bait while we have not made the mental leap to world war. so we have no world war strategy which is why we are losing and always being successfully provoked and baited. They are choosing the prepared ground and thus always have the initiative because they see the bigger picture.

when we begin to see all these west/musilm conflicts as one and the same thing then we will be able to identify a comprehensive plan to dealing with it and choose which ones to repond to and which what [not always military] means.

36

i agree.

less of the Mimpromptunight would be good and more related to NN [which she says she doesn't watch anyway so no wonder she has no idea what is going on and why people post what they do].

#36 & #39

Isn't it 'lovely' that you 2 are i'n agreement??

My name is Mim
I'm nice but dim
And just like a good little ten bob fat cat
I spam the blog with pointless chit-chat.

A welcome cull of the key health-fascists ?

https://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/sep/10/dh-culls-top-doctors

#41

Well done, kitty!!
A ditty from ever so 'witty'.

#43 addendum

Pointless, the georgeous?

"42. At 1:27pm on 11 Sep 2010, brossen99 wrote:
A welcome cull of the key health-fascists ?"

You may be surprised if look up who praised Mussolini in the 1930s, and why that only changed during/after WWII. Fascism was in fact a serious effort to address the excesses of naked capitalism and expose the predatory nature of grass-roots individualism upon which it feeds. Many say fascism was demonized by those who saw it as a serious threat to their predatory way of life. A case of getting people to think ill of it, so they could keep their consumers/markets/prey unprotected? That's not to defend the over-paid in the NHS, but then, as in education and elsewhere in the public sector, maybe that's just been a means to make the public services appear corrupt in the public's eyes and so easier to cut etc?


"39. At 11:59am on 11 Sep 2010, jauntycyclist wrote:
41. At 12:43pm on 11 Sep 2010, brossen99 wrote:"

She'll love all this attention, and we are feeding the behaviour now.
There's a film out at the moment, where the star has asserted that she didn't want the role because she didn't like the femme fatale character she played (no problem her playing it in St Trinian's though), and when the director would say that he didn't understand why the character would do some of the odd things she did, the star says she would explain that it's because she's a woman, and that she wouldn't have known either..

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/news/arterton-did-not-want-to-be-drewe-14935488.html

That's life - people behave, but generally don't know why any more than they know how their digestive system work, so, they deny the actual reasons when they're told, simply because often this does not make them look good, or comes as a surprise to them. Nature is odd this way.

A CHANCE FOR A 'HEALTH SERVICE' NOW MAYBE? (#42)

We all know much of the NHS is really an NSS - at best getting you well enough to go back into Mammon World and make yourself sick again. We have enough accumulated knowledge to keep many well, much of the time, but where is the employment, tax-take and fat profit in that?

I'll get me prescription.

#45

do you look that good with all you 'knowledge', tb01

mim

P.S. from The National Army Museum sitting at table 1 from the left. Does that make you 'delighted' ?

47 addendum

Though, counting from the other side, I'm posting from table 4

Nano Thermite - This is what people are talking about online re 9/11

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9v0wd_nano-thermite-brought-down-the-twin_news

Koran burning - He was/is a nobody so is only an issue due to mainstream media take up.

Question is why ?

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Subject:
Thursday 8th July 2010

Posting:
--was up in london earlier in the week, very disappointed!

not only didn't i have any random abuse thrown at me on the street, but i also hung around victoria/Buck Pal, trying to look all shifty and russian-spy-like - yet NOT ONE PERSON came up to offer me an envelope stuffed with cash!! I mean *really* - i thought the Cold War was back on?!?

would just like to say ty to the people who helped with directions and buses, the lady on the bus to oxford circus, the bus driver on the way to victoria, and most especially the *beautiful* black Englishwoman at the centrepoint bus-stop - i also wish you had had more time!! :*


just one question: how comes, if 'retail therapy' is correct, that so many people out shopping look tired, irritated and miserable?


Elder Millipede last night - could even nuLabour MPs stomach having as Leader someone who not only followed US orders and immediately blamed Russia for the Georgia incident, but who is STILL trying to defend, lie, and cover up the UK's complicity in torture and executions under HIS watch as foreign secretary?

the man has no morality - but perhaps that is the way those nuLabour types seem to like it? It will be interesting to see which Labour MPs vote for someone who allowed the UK's intel services to take part in activities explicitly forbidden by UK Law. Is that REALLY someone we would want as Prime Minister? The State already has more powers than ever before in history, the last thing we should want is a Leader who ignores and lies around the very few Rights we citizens have left.

Subject:
Thursday 9 September 2010

Posting:
Mr Hawkins, Sir, you are a good, kind and gentle man, and i believe you are on the right lines with 'M Theory', although most of it is above my head (of course!). In terms of multi-dimensions, could some of them be related to changes in consciousness of the Individual (observer)? I apologise for the terseness of the comment 2 days ago, although i doubt you read it - i can easily imagine you have far better things to read. :)


salmond: is it not slightly amusing that Salmond is probably the most popular leader in the UK, at least for NN observers anyway, and many UK citizens would like to vote for many of his policies for Scotland (excl Scot Independence) yet he desires to leave the UK?


Murdoch's Critter, 'kevin McKensie' - does *ANYONE* in the this country that watched that broadcast last night on NN believe that this man's hands are clean of this crime? No doubt the intense pressure that will be brought upon the MPs on this committee who investigate News International and the Murdochracy. It seems even slightly in doubt whether that will include police pressure on those individuals as well. The corruption that mckensie talked about, police selling information about cases they worked on to the murdochracy, how high does that go?

bearing in mind the reluctance of Scotland Yard to follow the Law with regard to News International, the disgraceful 'closeness' between the Murdochracy and the Tory Govt leading to the PM employing a senior Murdokcrat at the highest possible level, for the defence of *basic* Democracy in this country Parliament should reconsider putting tight constraints upon Media ownership, and break up this near totalitarian, fear and blackmail-using Corporation?


the (non) book-burners - a media blitz. Incredible that the Western Powers and its lackey Media can so enthrall themselves with how the "barbaric Muslims" will go ape over this act of book-burning, deliberately high-lighted IN the Western media, YET not the slightest mention that PERHAPS this anger has something to do with the entire countries invaded, occupied and destroyed, and the million upon millions of innocent civilians, men, women and children murdered directly and indirectly by Western Govts? No, it is because Muslims are 'emotional and childish savages'.

look in a mirror, yanks.

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16. At 8:31pm on 09 Sep 2010, brossen99 wrote:

"7 Myths About Green Jobs, can't link it direct because its a pdf but this link should get you there, thinking particularly of Mindy's_Housemate."


"The government has recently laid out plans to pour taxpayers’ money into “green investments”, claiming that the high costs will be offset by long-term benefits to the economy and the environment. The new study finds that this “win-win” attitude is a delusion. Hidden costs include:

"Bureaucracy: In practice, “green investments” get spent on red tape. “Green jobs” are taken by bureaucrats, siphoning resources away from the productive sectors of the economy."

--productive sectors like the banks?? How can reinvestment in manufacturing, and housing upgrades amongst other things be seen as "non-productive"?


"Waste: For those advocating “green jobs”, inefficiency is a virtue. A United Nations study on green jobs actually calls for fruit to be picked by hand rather than machine. “Green” subsidies effectively pay companies to make everyday items more expensive and scarce, taxing the public twice over."

--what a piece of propaganda. Agriculture based upon oil, and vast machines, has destroyed the croplands our very survival depends upon - whilst making us almost suicidally reliant upon oil to produce food. We have vast numbers of unemployed, and methods of farming that use less oil and employs more people.

food produced that way may be more expensive - but at least IT STILL PRODUCES FOOD when oil hits a crisis point. Plus, the newly employed are not then claiming benefits, and are spending money in the economy that employs other people. Higher food costs, when those costs are not going into off-shore tax-havens but into people's pockets to spend, are not always a bad thing.

"Debt: Today’s “green investments” are made by increasing Britain’s colossal national debt, borrowing heavily in the hope of making future generations richer. If the green gamble fails, our children and grandchildren will be left with the bill."

--instead of a bill where they are in eternal debt to the banks, due to the UK having NO industry left, - because it is blatantly obvious that the casinomics financial system in London does not have long left, and is doing its level best to prevent structural change. See the new boss of Barclays for confirmation of that. Investing in secure, sustainable energy, investing to create new productive industries is *exactly* what people want - is it no interesting the Cato institute did a mexican wave at the financial bailouts, but its completely opposed to investing in normal people's employment?

this is *nothing* except a propagandic exercise, its message being - "do nothing, everything is OK, go back to sleep, there is nothing to worry about.". The Russians and Chinese must hug themselves to sleep when they read something like this put out to Western populations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY8QTxsdTH8

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ray lewis:

"discipline, discipline, discipline" - he seemed so eager to dish it out to pupils, yet CLEARLY as he pointed himself he doesn't even have the self-discipline to keep himself vaguely in shape, to do his job properly. Discipline comes from within, and the best methods train children to develop their OWN discipline. Imposed discipline usuall only creates a counter-backlash, which makes for a highly inefficient education.

and yeah, whoever pointed this out earlier, what about the *girls* as well? ALL children appreciate interesting, interactive lessons, and can gain much from them together. Failures in UK pedagogy start much earlier, and Gareth was right - there needs to be FAR more emphasis upon physical-environmental-interaction, at a young age:

https://www.teachers.tv/videos/sweden-early-years

Sweden does not force its children into early '4 Rs', yet by age 10 Swedes have the best reading ability in Europe. There is a natural sequence and development for most children, and by enforcing over-intellectualism a too young an age, this distorts and stunts that natural growth - with disastrous results, from the view of educators who care about ALL the children, not just those from a certain privileged Class background.

the video ends with a English teacher thinking i would be impossible because the UK would never put the investment into education to pay for the improvement - but the main change is a change of pedagogic approach, away from too early 4Rs into experiential education that builds rounded and confident students.


"16. At 9:48pm on 08 Sep 2010, brossen99 wrote:

? ? ?

https://climatechangedispatch.com/behind-the-science/7632-russians-debunk-peak-oil-theory-as-bogus-as-greenhouse-gas-scam

Brossen: Do you *really* think oil is being produced "sustainably" from underground Crystals? That oil might be mineral as opposed to organic based, i can accept that as a *possibility* - that it is regenerating itself to match human consumption, and the 'peak oil' is JUST YET ANOTHER MIND-KONTROL SCAM (omzgss!!! etc etc etc...) i find utterly laughable. I suspect there the FSB took one step too far here in their attempt to undermine Western society with false reports and deliberate Konspiracy-THEOrising.

remember the whole IPCC 'critique' was also released from FSB offices within Russia.

who is playing who, and for what ends? Always worth bearing that in mind. Although your "?"s indicate you also found it somewhat questionable?


tabbernacle01: when did you decide to become 'evil'? Or do you think you were born that way? There is some talk about 'evil genes', would you say that this is true? - Or do you honestly not believe that fascism is evil?

#53

Why, I wonder, though, so many Russians and Chinese have escaped, with thousands more dying to follow suit, to the West? Not a day passes without me hearing Pushkin's language or seeing lots of Chinese, 'housey'.

#56 addendum

The above was written at a round table on a terrace of McDonalds where there's a poster advertising a burger with bacon.

'housey'

Is it you who keeps referring to hugs? I'm not keeping any detailed mental track of what you post here and that's why I can't remember. Perhaps it's somebody else, like tb01.

#56: that, unfortunately, might change soon, as Western countries discover what happens to an import economy when their currencies plummet. And at the same time, it seems China is slowly (rapidly in political terms) moving towards economic liberalism - they are experimenting, just as Cuba is, with cooperatives to boost internal production/efficiency/consumption/happiness.

although Russia has once again headed back towards authoritarianism, and will likely see further economic problems and further wars on its borders, so the picture is not so rosy there. It seems clear the Russian strategy is to destabilise the West, rather than stabilise itself.

there is little doubt that tabblenabble and his groupies would prefer to live under the principles of Putin's Russia, rather than Western liberal democracies.

#57: ahh McDonalds, the ultimate Stalinist food outlet. Low quality, mass produced, cheap, shoddy, deskilled and highly polluting. McDonalds is the ultimate expression of how the Corporations turned the US into a Soviet gulag.

Mindy's_Housemate # various

I have got an open mind unlike some people that would appear to be irreversibly locked into some " New Dark Age " quasi religion. The point is that anything which comes with a " green " pedigree is designed to promote false economic growth in the global by increasing the cost of living.

Many of those who actively promote the " Corporate Nazi " ideology's apparent " guru " allegedly wrote something like that the one and only one social responsibility of any business is to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase profits. ( Just so long as it stays within the theoretical moral rules, that is to say it uses free competition and avoids any potential deception or fraud ? )

The only problem with the above is that large corporations have consistently lobbied government ( particularly in the UK ) to change or ignore any rules. The rot probably first set in after Dennis Healey took out the IMF loan in the mid 1970s. Ever since pure science and engineering has been increasingly infiltrated by corporate politics and been misrepresented in order to produce the most profitable outcome from research in order to generate false economic growth on the stock market.

My personal business ideology was formed as I was brought up in a village corner shop which made its own ice cream. Also before leaving school I worked part time at a local small haulage contractor, despite being one of the top performing students on the technical side I dropped out of tech in the final year when they tried to indoctrinate me with corporate business theory, but stayed long enough to get the general idea.

My first real exposure to the corporate world was whilst working as a HGV driver delivering metal pressings to Ford plants in the mid 1980s. I was on friendly terms with the owner of said engineering business who would openly admit that he would make far more money if he had his capital investment in a building society. His main problem was getting paid on time by Ford, they owed him for several months work but he couldn't take any action to get paid as they would have instantly cancelled his contract. He had to buy all the steel from Ford at their price ( they could probably justify this on quality control grounds ) but when one really bad quality batch of Ford Cargo cab back panels went rusty as soon as they were pressed, he had to pay to try to clean them up. Said engineering company arranged all their transport but then Ford demanded that they use Ford's own corporate haulage sub contractor at extra expense and inconvenience. We lost the haulage job but it was said about a couple of years later that Ford had sent in a team of managers to run said engineering works which then soon went into administration. Although we technically lost our jobs due to Ford transport policy our union ( T&G ) did nothing to help us even though our replacements were in foreign built vehicles and consistently breaking the drivers hours regulations.

In between hauling metal pressings we did muti drop chemicals throughout the UK. You could tell how a company treated its workforce by the way they dealt with you as far as getting quickly unloaded. It was always a pleasure to visit ICI sites, but that was in the days before most of the company was sold off and then virtually asset stripped for instant profit. Large companies like ICI always managed to retain their share price whilst providing decent working conditions and terms for their workforce, at least until the 1987 stock market crash. I can't remember whether the following is in strict chronological order, but I was informed first hand that when Guinness took over Distillers ( in a dodgy deal ) the rent of small arable farmers in west Lancashire was doubled overnight, a pattern which was to become all too familiar in the 1990s.

On the politics side, it would appear that Thatcher would not play their false economic growth to plug the black hole in the stock market game and so they tricked her into introducing the Poll Tax after which she was compelled to resign. Just as soon as Major got elected in his own right the false economic growth regulations were trotted out regularly. As far as personal experience was concerned we were hit by new sheeting regulations at the quarries, Tilcon must have know it was in the pipeline as they had sold the majority of their road haulage sector to Fewston, a company set up by the banks and profit based on sub letting haulage work to smaller haulage contractors. Tilcon had always bought several new British built Foden eight-wheelers every year but Fewston switched to Swedish Scania, the haulage rates never went up to cover the costs of sheeting, many experienced drivers left due to the health implications ( including myself with back problems ). The net result was the Sowerby Bridge Disaster in which several people lost their lives after a Fewston wagon ran away down the steep hill, given the evidence almost certainly caused by an inexperienced incompetent ex-police ( just recently passed HGV test driver ) " pumping " the air brakes after they " faded " on the long hill down into Halifax. Of course Tilcon escaped any vicarious liability at the time but the ministry of transport came in and got the haulage rates increased, after which Tilcon was subsequently taken over. All to prevent a bit of harmless dust getting onto the ten bob fat cat yuppies who had moved into the Dales new BMW's.

Then came Traffic Calming, and it in not simple coincidence that Hyndburn ( the first local authority to introduce widespread traffic calming ) was one of the first local authorities forced to sell its corporation bus fleet. One first rate coachbuilder I knew left ( Stagecoach ) Ribble Blackburn depot to become top man at Hyndburn Transport, only to leave after a couple of weeks later because the urgent repair workload ( due to running over traffic calmed streets ) was impossible to keep up with, he was such a good man that Ribble instantly gave him his old job back. Corporate Stagecoach picked up Hyndburn Transport on the cheap in a bent deal arranged with the bent Labour leader of the council who pushed the traffic calming in the first place, the first class engineering depot ( on a prime site ) was asset striped and sold. Other corporation transport operations have fallen to the corporates since due to being unable to even break even, and not being able to access new investment for more modern vehicles.

Another false economic growth investment scam was " disabled access to public transport ", the corporates were all for it after sorting a bent deal with the minister in charge who's son was employed in a top management position by one of them. Just for the extra interest payments alone it would have been possible to provide a 24/7 dial up free taxi service to anywhere in the UK for anybody claiming DLA. Perhaps this prime example of politically correct lunacy is the main reason why its far cheaper per mile to run your car than use public transport because the fares are so high now in many areas. We have now reached a point where local authorities are forced to subsidise the majority of bus services using the council tax, the corporate bus operators taking the angle that if they can't turn a fat profit they wont run the service. Thatcher's bus privatisation plan has been amply proven an abject failure, short of total re-nationalisation the way forward now is efficient regulation with the bus operators turned into virtual road haulage contractors to the local council, who would collect all the fares and organise all the timetables.

Both the above false economic growth generating scams come via the EU but more recently motor industry funded alleged charities have been set up to demand legislation on the grounds of " road safety ", but their impact has been nothing compared to the influence of environmental NGO's on government policy. Perhaps their first major victory was when Ken Clarke introduced the Road Fuel Tax Escalator, of course big business said nothing perhaps because they were prepared to run with anything which could prevent the top rate of income tax being increased and the resultant drop in funds to their " stock market parasites ", ( hedge funds and the like ). It didn't have any real impact at first but Labour was favourite to win the 1997 election and if there was a working brain between them they must have realised the RFTE made particularly northern manufacturing industry uncompetitive. However, Brown just carried on with it and by 1998 I can recall that hundreds of once well secure job for life " household name " manufacturing jobs were being lost every week. This continued until the Farmers For Action fuel protests and ending of the RTFE in 2000, but by this time the " stock market parasites " had got it into their DNA that asset stripping British industry was far more profitable in the short term than actually trying to run it efficiently. By this time global big business had organised itself into a virtual Corporate Multinational Cartel ( CMC ) which prevented any real competition in an alleged " free market ", with direct services to the public contracted out to franchise holders in many cases. I suspect that the general public have no idea what the vast majority of FTSE listed companies actually do anymore, and therefore it is impossible for members of the public to take any direct " consumer action " against them by withholding their trade. Take the toxic waste dumping in Africa more recently, it is impossible to decipher which major company was actually responsible, almost everyone in the chain escapes vicarious liability with the investment in the " shell company " which probably goes bust to pay the fines being insured by credit default swaps etc. The sting in the tail is that if it was not for alleged environmental groups bleating about non existent toxic pollution from waste incinerators with the latest technology we could have created well paid sustainable jobs in the UK.

That neatly brings us onto the next eco scam, household / industrial waste incineration or lack of it as far as the UK is concerned. Eco groups have bleated so loud over the last 20 years about toxic emission that most brain dead politicians ( at least where engineering or science is concerned ) have done everything they can to appease them. Many councils are now contracted to mega expensive " waste treatment plants ", which probably cause anyone local far more noxious smell than any incinerator could ever do. The most logical way to dispose of waste is to incinerate and generate electricity, in rural areas where the potential smell is well away from residential areas but also to allow the construction of glasshouses in order to use any waste heat in order to grow the exotic fruit and vegetables currently imported by environmentally damaging air freight. Of course the UK is not allowed to do this because it hits the CMC in two areas, the energy sector ( electricity from incineration could reduce market prices ) and the airlines which indirectly hits the oil section of the cartel. Environmentalists have made a big noise about disposable carrier bags and other alleged excess packaging but if they were burnt to generate electricity we could reduce demand on other fuels. The UK has 300 years supply of good quality coal in the ground yet the environmentalists say we should not use it because there would appear to be doubts about the practicality of the most expensive option for capture of CO2. CO2 emissions from fossil fuel plants can be significantly reduced growing Chlorella, a fast growing Chinese pond slime which itself can be used as fuel, yet no UK research as I believe Shell hold the rights and they would prefer investment in gas ?

Despite all the environmentalist's rhetoric about standing up against big business it would appear that most of the policy they promote is in actual fact increasing the influence of the CMC over the UK economy, oil companies want an alleged low carbon economy in order to force up the market price of gas. Similarly the alleged environmentalists pushed for the introduction of traffic calming in towns which probably increases road transport pollution emissions by at least 10% on a national basis. The main question is how have the alleged environmentalists managed to get Carbon Dioxide classed as a pollutant in the first instance, the man made global warming theory is based on dubious science to say the least, but like most science I expect that research is skewed to reflect the interest of the CMC. Meanwhile its likely that implementing the Climate Change Act will result in the mass asset stripping of UK manufacturing industry on a scale not seen since the RFTE before 2000, it doesn't help that foreign aid money is allegedly being used to buy up mothballed UK machine tools on the cheap for export via third world countries.

Meanwhile UK citizen stakeholders are being sold short by the politicians for the benefit of the " stock market parasites " and false economic growth which continually increases the " financial apartheid " between rich and poor. Within the next 10 years the energy industry will fall to the same fate as Railtrack after the Hatfield crash in 2000, wind farms are a pointless waste of scarce investment. Evidence from Denmark and Germany shows that they have not closed a single fossil fuel plant, in fact Germany has had to open new fossil fuel plants to prevent power cuts. ( probably not helped by the fact that Germany also backs up Denmark ) The main thrust of the wind farm scam is probably designed to inflate the world price of copper, its probable that you need far more copper per unit of energy produced in wind farms rather than fossil or nuclear power plants. Copper related mining shares appear to have been the main driver of the current recovery in the FTSE index, I suspect that all the hedge funds are in there borrowing up to the hilt to speculate in mining shares and thus denying scarce investment to real productive UK companies.

The UK faces the real possibility of regular power cuts which could precipitate total anarchy in our larger towns and cities, the situation is not helped by the fact that if anyone dare open a new power station or gas storage facility the alleged environmentalists are round there quick sharp with a fleet of corporate lawyers demanding a public enquiry. It would appear that the primary focus of mainstream alleged environmental groups has nothing to do with protecting the overall ecology of our planet ( export pollution to China and India ) and everything to do with inflating the cost of living in the UK, false economic growth which can be expressed as an increasing number on stock market indices. The UK can simply not afford to continue on the same false economic growth policy of the politicians always opting for the most inefficient and expensive option of achieving anything vital for the continued success and relative prosperity ( and now that its been left to go on for so long perhaps the survival ? ) of our nation and its citizens.

The idea of sovereign debt is crazy when you understand fraction reserve banking. you have to ask: why govt's borrow from banks when they can do the money creation themselves ?

You the govt allow banks to create money from nothing when someone/business/organisation goes to them for a loan . Then you go to them yourself and borrow billions

?

This is vastly crazy if not its massive fraud - just stealing from the nation in the form of "cutbacks"

Seriously to all the unions out there study fractional reserve banking, inform your members and then en mass put it to the govt as to why they did the above.

SHARP OBSERVATION FLICKS (#49 link)

I had not spotted the barmy book burner as a smoke screen. Shrewd thinking.

The scientist in the video clip is VERY disciplined in his constructions - a joy to receive.

Obama, of course, talks only of 'Twin Towers'. He really is a cousin to Tony and a clone of Dubya (even the sibilant word-endings). Obama get's a mention in this link, but the precise inference is unclear.
https://www.youtube.com/profile?user=creativewindspirit#p/u/2/EJAVMUMjr3Q

Dubya would speak of EVIL DOERS. Darned toot'n Dub!

#59

'Housey' says: 'It seems clear the Russian strategy is to destabilise the West, rather than stabilise itself.', and I twirl to 007.

'there is little doubt that tabblenabble and his groupies would prefer to live under the principles of Putin's Russia, rather than Western liberal democracies.' - why don't you all go there then, 'housey'?

#59

Well, 'housey', not everyone can afford to dine and wine at Ritz's or even in the restaurant 'on the Thames' in Barnes. Besides it's convenient. The chips at McDonald's are always fresh and clean, and the burgers I used to eat from them seemed to keep my body free of digestive problems and in good shape.

#64 addendum

The restaurant in question is called 'The Depot' by the way.

Are some of you, NN bloggers, on route 66??????

"46. At 2:31pm on 11 Sep 2010, barriesingleton wrote:

We all know much of the NHS is really an NSS - at best getting you well enough to go back into Mammon World and make yourself sick again."

So you won't mind when it's broken up (like so much else has been, or is
being) and is sold off to private vendors where you have to pay them for their services then? That's what this is all about. Making the public happy to have the rug pulled from under their feet.

It was old and tatty, unfit for purpose ....etc etc.


55. At 5:11pm on 11 Sep 2010, Mindys_Housemate wrote

"Or do you honestly not believe that fascism is evil? "

Were British Gas, British Airways, BT, The GPO etc evil? Was this:

https://www.labour-party.org.uk/manifestos/1945/1945-labour-manifesto.sht
ml

Do you understand the nature of these questions? I suggest you need to give some careful thought as to who benefits from making out that some things are evil, "axes of evil", "weasels" etc instead of just repeating propaganda that you have been peddled as a member of a now declining Liberal Democracy as your posts tend to be a rambling mess with only a tenuous grasp of political reality.

"56. At 5:32pm on 11 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:

Why, I wonder, though, so many Russians and Chinese have escaped, with thousands more dying to follow suit, to the West?"

Most of the Chinese came from Liberal-Democracies in SE Asia and just want to make money at the expense of other people. As to so called 'Russians' here, either they aren't Russians, they're mainly stateless Baltic nationals (as Russia is not in the EU).or they are greedy Oligarchs.

Russia and the Eastern Bloc was wrecked by Neoconservatives from the 1940s onwards, especially in the 1980s/1990s. Spend some time at the Commanding Heights website to find out how the USA has been a wrecker of other nation states and how the UK has aided and abetted them with its idiotic Austrian School economics under Thatcher etc...

"'there is little doubt that tabblenabble and his groupies would prefer to live under the principles of Putin's Russia, rather than Western liberal democracies.'"

You are getting rather irritating. You don't appear to be able to grasp even the simplest of sentences when they are written in very clear language. You attribute your own poor understanding to other people to boot! That is insulting. Go and read the Labour Party manifesto for 1945, and look into this country's public sector services up to 1979, and try to grasp how it was ripped apart and sold off to private interests in the name of 'freedom' and 'democracy' when it already belonged to the people of this country when they had all worked and paid for it through taxes. You haven't got a clue. The BBC will be next after Royal Mail.

A few thoughts:

Is there any relationship between extreme self-centredness and the false notion that others might be persecuting one?

Might this disposition be more common in some parts of the world than others?

Can anyone think of any historical precedents in the late C19t and early C20th which led to mass asylum seeking - perhaps to the consternation of the nations which the migration was from)?

https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/malignant-self-love/grandiosity-and-intimacy-the-roots-of-paranoia/menu-id-1469/

#67

Grasping or gasping, tb01? As you have absolutely no chance of changing the political system in the UK, tb01, why don't you emigrate and work for Putin directly over there in Russia? It might be more rewarding for you that way. And think what you're missing by not being surrounded by all the beautiful Russian ladies and boys, as the case may be?

#68

Don't you think I don't know the difference between then and now, tb01? Funny you should mention Maggie as only today I saw a whole wing of the Royal Chelsea Hospital named after her which she was behind setting up for brave Veterans of the British Army.

Are you brave, tb01, hiding your identity behind your 'fanciful' name, 'table'? What is it really that you're 'hoping' to achieve? Courage, go for it in real life. See whether this leads you anywhere though I wouldn't recommend conimg anywhere near me. Pointless.

No 72 has stuck in my mind from when the Allied Forces were using very long guns, 72 I think they were called, or something like that, when fighting Sadam Hussain after he'd invaded Kuwait.

*********************

I've woken up roaring like a tiger, or was it a lion?
Anyway, I am in London.
There are stars visible shining in the sky
So hopefully during the day it will quite bright.
I like it when it's bright as I do love the light.
Which reminded me of William Blake's great verse:
'Tyger, tyger burning bright
In the forests of the night'.

Should anyway be interested in learning, or brushing up on their education regarding metering and feet in poetry, they are welcomed to read the following poetic analysis of Blake's poem from the 'Songs of Experience':

https://www.cummingsstudyguides.net/Guides2/Tiger.html

mim

Perhaps someone should point out to Sam Vaknin that people with a personality disorder are not all male.

The BBC should be totally privatised, its morally wrong to lock up people (I think something like over a thousand have been behind bars) for non payment. Its Oxbridge and the better university run and is obviously projecting the govts line. When it steps out of line ( David Kelly ) heads roll asap. The editors will project what ever the UK govt wont's especially those in front of camera - they are paid a fortune, this is more important to them.

It wont be privatised because of the above.

At the moment they can pay their childrens private education and university fees. When they cant (many of their friends already can not) they may wish to start talking about fractional reserve banking and the world of money creation via debt. Nothing like personal experience to motivate against a terrible wrong. Until then we will have lackey blab shows by force of payment of a small fortune to a cardboard cut out presenter while the rest of us get the real news from people posting stuff for nothing on youtube.

Having just awoken up, I can see right in front
The TV transmitter with four lights
Like the tiger burning bright
With the stars still in the sky
And not all that many clouds.
Following which I’ve just checked with BBC
The prognosis for the day -
With blue patches and no rain.

mim

****

HOW BEING RICH CAN BE BENEFICIAL:

This time it is the British Museum that benefits:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11274399

mim

What a sprightly 89-year old Commonwealth Lady:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazel_McCallion

I've just read in the 'Washington Post' that central bankers and government regulators are meeting this weekend to work out a balanced system of banking although: 'Any new standards adopted by the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision would still need approval of individual national governments.'

To mark the occasion I might do a bit of twirling to my yodelling songs, sung by Elton Britt, either later today or tomorrow. Any objections?

mim

Boycotting of the Papal visit by subscribers:
https://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Irish-Catholics-Snub-Pope-Benedicts-Visit-To-Britain-Fewer-Than-1000-Plan-UK-Pilgrimage/Article/201009215725005?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15725005_Irish_Catholics_Snub_Pope_Benedicts_Visit_To_Britain%3A_Fewer_Than_1%2C000_Plan_UK_Pilgrimage

Koran burning in the US (near Ground Zero):
https://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/09/11/2010-09-11_man_ignites_koran_near_ground_zero_apparently_prompted_by_florida_pastor_terry_j.html



Shredding the Koran opposite the White House:
https://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100911/ts_alt_afp/usattacks9yearsreligionislamdemo_20100911185812

Mosque Protest at Ground Zero:
https://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/125293/rallies-concerning-islamic-center-bring-controversy-to-lower-manhattan

Religion, eh?





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Webster Tarpley on Rev Terry Jones and other matters :-

https://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/

#78

It's a double edged sword, though, Mistress76uk, with religion. There are very good aspects, which I don't have the time to go into now, of religious faith and inspiration, not that I believe in any god any more myself.

mim

" As you have absolutely no chance of changing the political system in the UK, tb01, why don't you emigrate and work for Putin directly over there in Russia? It might be more rewarding for you that way."

Just think about this for a moment or two. I've pointed out that many people here are unhappy because over the past three decades or so, much that was good about Britain has been eroded by self-centred people out to get what they can with little regard for others except as sources of supply for their self-interest. In a relatively harmless way, some of your behaviour here on this blog exemplifies those traits. What do we see you say above? Your advice is that those who don't like seeing this country turned into a self-centred hell-hole should go and live somewhere else!

Classic.

I sometimes wonder just how many people who were shot crossing the Berlin wall (which surrounded West Berlin which was situated entirely within East Germany) were actually shot whilst trying to get into the East German Democratic (socialist) Republic which was in fact a big welfare state, and how many people feeing Poland etc to the West were in fact Poland's rejects e.g. its criminal and unhinged classes.

It doesn't look like it's been getting better does it? They just keep hiding what we all feel is happening.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7997092/Revealed-not-a-single-burglar-gets-maximum-jail-sentence.html

73. At 03:14am on 12 Sep 2010, flicks2 wrote:
Perhaps someone should point out to Sam Vaknin that people with a personality disorder are not all male.

He'd probably fly into a rage! There's a British newspaper interview with him where he talks openly about he himself suffering from one of these disorders!

This is quite interesting in parts:

https://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/paranoidnarcissismspectrum.html

but I don't know how reliable it is. We seem to have found places for emotionally battered children in our culture, which turns them out by the score only to place them in occupations like the entertainment industry which just reinforces the problem as I see it. Hell-hole is a good description for our way of life perhaps? Not all nations behave like this to the same extent i.e. they don't set up these peoples as role models!

Pointing out how destructive they are doesn't seem to work as they are so wrapped up in their own selfish, child-like world, that they don't care about others, so don't listen.

ed is gonna sneak it....yipppeeee

#81

Especially for 2. Wink, wink. Not to be confused with 'win'.

#83 addendum

So the UK is a 'self-centred he'll-hole' that you 'are trying' to change, so why and where are you hiding yourself?

#84. correction

It's the I-phone that has defaulted to 'he'll-hole'. I meant to use the word that's normally used to signify the place opposite 'heaven'. Being alive, healthy and having the freedom of choice here on Earth with all the contradictions, successes and failures, is my preferred option as long as it's not a totalitarian regime.

https://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/

Stoneleigh and Ilargi have great taste in documentary photography they also know a thing about debt servitude and how it may well play out.

Ask yourself why doesn't the BBC talk about fractional reserve banking and debt servitude ?

Posters have tried to coax Robert Peston but nah .

"Ask yourself why doesn't the BBC talk about fractional reserve banking and debt servitude ? "

Maybe they expect intelligent people to already know this?

Sadly, across our Liberal-Democracies the notion of Social Justice was premised upon the very odd (irrational) idea that wealth could be 'redistributed' by issuing debt with the risk of default being securitised (spread thinly, disguised, and dumped somewhere else as national debt!). It was a mega-con. History has always warned that one can't live safely or securely on the basis of debt and delusion, but for reasons which most people still won't accept, many people in the USA and UK etc have been doing just that for decades, i.e living way beyond their means. It isn't that banks are making money up, it's just that they've been using loans issued at what amount to high compound interest rates, as never-never (to be repaid in many cases) money so long as their risks were covered elsewhere (securitized). The alternative was to live in reality like in the 50s and some of the 60s, but that would mean many people feeling rather poor, stupid and ignorant, because.....
sadly, that really is that many people really are like that because they never physically grow up. It doesn't suit their grandiose self-image.
People have been told for decades that everyone is equal, and they've been told that in order to more easily dupe them. Can you see how? Some can't, but that's the nature of being easily duped. Some can never be enlightened. That's why the nanny state had to regulate in order to protect them! All that's happened in the last half century is that lots of naive people have been induced to abandon their own protection.

A timely film has just been on about the Spitfire in WWII, it was a Leslie Howard production.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7997595/Treasury-Chief-Secretary-Danny-Alexander-apologises-over-tax-demands.html

I dont believe this was a mistake. Its designed to test/see how the public would react to a personal financial shock. Why? they have more up their sleeve all designed to dove tail into debt servitude. Its now the lower middle class who will be forced down the pecking order. Using much higher price university education. They wont be able to reach the status of doctor, lawyer, teacher etc unless they are prepared to live the casino risk of their future massive debt. Many just wont have the guts and families wont have the finance. This will push a whole new generation into debt servitude.

Pakistan Cricket scam with days of blanket coverage and a nobody nutter threatening to burn taken seriously by the mainstream media means something war like is on the boil as well as more debt to keep the banksters and ruling elite filthy rich.

"84. At 12:31pm on 12 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:
#83 addendum

So the UK is a 'self-centred he'll-hole' "

Yes.

Here is some relevant information to help you see past some of the propaganda so you might better appreciate the reality of what was really behind Thatcher's and Blair's Britain: The kingmakers changed, that's all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Joseph

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/keith-joseph-the-father-of-thatcherism-was-autistic-claims-professor-407600.html

""His ideas have influenced politics for 20 years. Monetarism has some of the characteristics of Asperger's in its insensitivity and its harshness - that is my point, the man and what he does in life are one.
It is important to know this because these people control the destiny of the nation," Professor Fitzgerald said."

Whether you accept this or not (and I'm not sure I accept the Asperger's Syndrome bit), try to learn something from this, or forever remain a dupe. The main reason that Britain appeared to boom in the Thatcher years was because its state assets were liquidated so they could flow into the pockets of the private sector people who contrived her Party's ascent into power through misleading the British public about the unions mislabelling anarchists as communists. This is an old trick. .In fact, these anarchistic Militants helped destroy the unions and thus helped her into power. This is why those who were staunch defenders of the state or pubic sector (welfare state) in the 80s hated her so much. She wasn't very bright Mimpromptu - she was used by anarchists!

#88 & #87

Blanket, flick? I use one these days.instead of a duvet escaping this way from being duped.

Imagine two children in school on their first day of class in history.

Child A hears a sentence about something in history for the first time, so does child B.

Child A says to self: "I didn't know that"
Child B says to self: "That's not what I thought"

Note the very subtle difference (a hard and decisive bifurcation, and one which many fall foul of is my point)

Child A goes on to learn, child B goes on to struggle throughout life because she never really leaned what school was all about. In later life, she never grasps that she must learn things which are at odds with her prior states of ignorance if she is ever to learn!. Instead, she feels threatened (demeaned) throughout life when learning, whilst child A learns to her benefit. Child B becomes an argumentative, difficult, self-centred person in life, always telling people what she believes even when it's false. She attacks those who try to help her, whilst child A grown up showing gratitude.

This happens.

#91

Stick then with child A, won't you?

With China seeking to monopolise rare earth this may become significantly important going forward :-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Pass,_California

Least the US has cotton, rare earth and brains.

#92 addendum

'gratitude' for extreme abuse? and anyway, what it is that you're expecting from child B? A treasure? If so, what sort of treasure? gold /Arabian/? Or 2, treasure and 'pleasure', with 'pleasure' shared?
With

Mainstream media = blab shows and childish logic bombs delivered by cardboard cut out's. You will have more chance of the truth from headless chickens running around looking for their own heads.

You lot who read this - its about the banks and govt positioning you to be in debt to a bank .

We learn there wont be a blanket ban on Credit Default Swaps. Well everyone learn about credit default swaps and you decide about that decision and stability and incentivised destruction :-

https://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/10/08/whiteboard_untangling_credit_default_swaps/

James Rickards : -

"They're just betting – why should we have instruments where the hope is for the failure of a sovereign state? These are not financial games, they have a serious detrimental impact on the citizens of those countries," said Rickards, a director of Virginia-based Omnis."

Ref : https://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/15/credit-default-swaps-regulation

Of course the banks are already switched on and wired up close to a server for fastest speed so they can manipulate the market via high frequency trading. Last time I tried the link was mod removed so google up Karl Denninger and find out how. I dont much care for many of his views but he is a fine and very intelligent market analyst.

47

Well done mate I was there the other day with a mate 2

I missed u

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95. At 5:41pm on 12 Sep 2010, flicks2 quoted:

"They're just betting – why should we have instruments where the hope
is for the failure of a sovereign state? These are not financial games,
they have a serious detrimental impact on the citizens of those
countries," said Rickards, a director of Virginia-based Omnis."

Let's consider this from within the free-market Libertarian theory. What
the argument was, was that through taking positions (bets if you like)
for and against certain events, the overall market would determine what
the right value was. So, if currency traders looked at how a country
like Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain etc were managing their economies or
how those countries were faring demographically, the correct value of
their currency would be reflected in all those positions. It wasn't so
much that people were just gambling recklessly, but more that they were
computing the probabilities of real events as truth values. The argument
was that it wasn't these bets which made good or bad things happen, the
bets just reflected the underlying realities.

So, what IS the fatal flaw in the argument which underpins
Libertarianism? There clearly IS a flaw, as you say, but as Greenspan
said he was surprised and as it doesn't look like anyone else has got
any clear ideas as to what to do about it, the big problem is that IF
those embracing free-market Libertarianism really didn't expect any of
this to happen, there IS a radical flaw in the entire system, and that
needs to be addressed. That is what I have been talking about. The
reason why Libertarianism came about was not because anyone thought it
an ideal, it was because nobody believed they could manage a Planned
Economy, because it is too complex and management intensive - regulate
it and you just get a black market economy! if you try and police that,
you need a very big police force and domestic Stasi etc The argument was
that you need an enormous state in order to run a Planned Economy, and
the state never seems to be able to do it without being
overbearing/oppressive.

Is China showing they CAN do it? Can we learn from China?

Here you go Mindys_Housemate and Mimpromptu - the Telegraph alleges "that more than 200,000 public sector jobs have already been axed or are at risk of being lost" How many of these deserve it because they are evil fascists?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7997747/Unions-warn-of-co-ordinated-strikes-against-cuts.html

Mindys_Housemate: Who is Jamie Insole?

#99

yours, to start with