Anger Night!

anger? bit daily mail?

this is the way to deal with anger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YpAdK0CrTY

ANGRY AND POWERLESS.

Westminster is the, low, belly-sliding Dragon but the people have no St George.

We need a hero.

Your question has defeated me, the well is too deep.

I think the best I can do for you is to post a link to our 'work in progress'.

This should tell you everything you need to know, it is not pefected yet ( some of the text and images will be in the wrong place still ) but is planned to be released as an e-mail circular this weekend, not by a political party or action group, just by a bunch of fed up people who came together on the net and want to tell what we believe is the real story in a way real people will understand and then be able to make decisions about.

https://www.lobbygroup.org/Jericoa/Ethical_banking/

Such is the anger in the message I seriously doubt it will get past the moderators, if it does not get past you Mr or Mrs Moderator at least please pass it on to Sarah Mcdermot, I think as a piece of input to her research for the article she will find it invaluable at least.


Jericoa

LETS HAVE THE FULL DANIEL HANNAN CLIP (as requested yesterday on NN blog)

You want to investigate anger? THAT was anger, served cold, without oratorical embellishment, but WITH eye contact that would have drilled holes, if Brown were not a cross between jelly and Scotch Mist.

Put Hannen on the studio wonderwall, on a continuous loop, throughout the whole program. Anger was never so sweet - never so earned - never so cathartic.

If you can splice in Browns unspeakably juvenile 'dont-care' grin - so much the better.

What gets me angry is the way in which a minority of eco-fascists hold so much sway on UK and EU government policy.

By the time you have wasted millions of tons of concrete and steel to build wind farms which at best only produce power for 30% of the time you could have built both a Severn and Morecambe Bay barrage which could produce energy for almost the whole 365 day year. Trouble is that as usual with anything actually useful the Eco-fascists oppose it due to its theoretical effect on wildlife. French experience with a current similar scheme proves that a barrage will not adversely effect wildlife.

Similarly with energy from waste, the UK could produce up to 15% of its base load electricity from modern household / industrial waste. With the current recycling only policy fly tipping is out of control in some areas, with incineration much of such waste could be disposed of for free due to the potential heat in contains.

The eco-fascists spew out so much bullshit and have cried " wolf "so much on environment policy that it is perhaps hardly surprising they loose the argument when it really matters like building the new third runway at Heathrow.

Are you in fact "mad as hell" and unable to take it anymore?

No, but you might say I, and perhaps a few others, are a smidge unimpressed with 'The Establishment'

4. At 9:13pm on 26 Mar 2009, barriesingleton

For all the airy dismissals from the MSM's dead tree dinosaurs and their slavish supporters, many surrounding the relative obscurity of the 'incident' (an MEP, in the Brussels Parliament, and a noted commentator on a major UK quality daily), it might have been better that the commentator made his political point by lobbing a shoe to be deemed 'newsworthy', as opposed to polite, calm, but deadly, not to mention well-aimed words.

It seems quaint for a few to bleat that it's time to move on, and throw toys out the pram that some do not feel ready to, when the point at issue is that something of not insignificant political note, and public interest, remains essentially glossed over, apparently through not conforming to a desired narrative.

How much better to have given the piece the objective coverage it warranted at the time... and then move on. Now, each time a non-group think politician is fingered for putting their bins out on the wrong day, the credibility of those that suddenly get excited by trivia over substance spirals ever lower.

Also, I am only now 'finding out' but for some reason from oddly selective sources, that a world leader (The President of Brazil no less), came out with a rather 'interesting' take on the racial breakdown that should be considered in the global banking crisis.

Is this lack of reporting due to who was standing next to this person, given a pass to be more than a tad racist when others might find the full glare of liberal ire upon them? Maybe it is, as SKY's anchor suggested, 'yet another embarrassment for the PM'.

If anyone should be embarrassed, it should be those caught editing by omission whilst claiming objective reporting.

Hmmmm, let's see; MP's claiming second home allowances for their relatives home 11 miles away from their own home, the lies that took us to an illegal war, peers selling changes to the law, peers being allowed to remain in the upper house despite being conviced criminals, the constant spin and lies from No 10, MP's being unable to answer a simple question yes or no, the financial crisis being caused by greed and then rewarding the bankers that caused it with huge pay-offs, etc, etc, etc. No, I am not angry. I have gone beyond anger and now I am simply apathetic. I no longer believe that my vote counts for anything. I expect MP's to lie, cheat and steal. I have no faith in the authorities of any stripe. From the police I only expect either corruption, incompetence or racism. From social services, the usual excuses "we have learned from our mistakes". From the civil service, any blunder will be excused and nobody is ever fired for their mistakes. From the government the usual huge amounts of wastage of taxpayers money. Ethically and morally bankrupt the whole stinking lot.
I feel like crying.

Rioters

If you watch the TV, the only people rioting are hippy low lifers!!

These people should get a job and stop living off of our taxes!!

I am just your average "(wo)man on the street" so forgive me if what I say seems naive.

I am not angry at the government or the banks because I know nothing about politics and finance, nor can I have effect major governing decisions, so I have to have faith they that they know what they are doing. It may be a misguided faith but it's all I have.

I do, however, get angry with people on a level much closer to home. What makes me mad is a lack of manners and consideration (right down to people who don't thank you when you hold the door open for them). A lack of respect for our elders. A lack of respect and pride for ones neighbourhood. People complain about rising taxes yet do not dispose of their waste responsibly and expect the council to clear it up, for free!

So many people complain about the government this and the government that, yet as I see it, they are not prepared to take care of the little things, the things they actually have power over.

What is the saying "take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves". Surely the analogy can be applied to our social and working lives!

Yes I'm angry. but I'm also wary of teaming up with just anybody to protest. I wont be going to protest at G20 because of the nutters there who think violence is a justified response.

We have laws to deal with this. Lets use them.

What makes me angry is all the mis-directed anger. We should be upset about the economic crisis, about the poor performance of the banks, about the light-touch regulation/Conservative+New Labour financial deregulation which allowed our bankers to seperate their remuneration from their performance, and about the lack of action from the FSA. I cannot believe that the FSA could be so unbelieveably naiive as to buy into the free-market neo-classical model which rests on such absurd assumptions as perfect foresight, perfect information and perfect, instantaneous adjustment of prices.

What we must NOT be angry about is taking measures to reinflate the world economy. All the bleating over the cost of borrowing is ridiculously misguided and the Conservatives are doing their best to stir up this sentiment. The Great Depression was exacerbated by Hoover's financial cutbacks and the withdrawal of funds back into struggling banks, and if we have not heeded the lessons learned from this catastrophic slump then we deserve to dive headlong into a recession. We need financial stimulus to protect our jobs and our spending power and let our markets recover; if we cut back now while demand is falling we will only feed the vicious circle of lower expectations -> lower expenditure -> lower employment.

Anger does not begin to describewhat i feel .World wide millions of children are suffering from autism. Their parents leading lives of quiet desperation.Big pharmacology states vaccines are not to blame .Currently one of the longest and most expensive medical trials in British history is taking place.Where have all the investigative journalists gone ,is the bbc content to sit on their hands ,do we wait until drug companies decide on vaccination schedules for our children.One in sixty children are affected by autism spectrum,how much longer to we wait for answers.Mothers ,fathers ,grandparents have seen for themselves the results of one size fits all vaccine programmes.

Anger does not begin to describewhat i feel .World wide millions of children are suffering from autism. Their parents leading lives of quiet desperation.Big pharmacology states vaccines are not to blame .Currently one of the longest and most expensive medical trials in British history is taking place.Where have all the investigative journalists gone ,is the bbc content to sit on their hands ,do we wait until drug companies decide on vaccination schedules for our children.One in sixty children are affected by autism spectrum,how much longer to we wait for answersanswers.Mothers ,fathers ,grandparents have seen for themselves the results of one size fits all vaccine programmes.

Anger does not begin to describewhat i feel .World wide millions of children are suffering from autism. Their parents leading lives of quiet desperation.Big pharmacology states vaccines are not to blame .Currently one of the longest and most expensive medical trials in British history is taking place.Where have all the investigative journalists gone ,is the bbc content to sit on their hands ,do we wait until drug companies decide on vaccination schedules for our children.One in sixty children are affected by autism spectrum,how much longer ,how many more millions of damaged children before we get to the truth.Meanwhile the media is complicit in their silence.

THE GREAT BANK OF SPIV v KARMA (#3)

Karma to you, in return Jericoa. (I am now staring, frozen, at my keyboard, as the full impact of our enslaved impotence strikes home.)

Look at the number of postings (currently less than 10). If the subject had been Wossygate or Harrygaffe or Gazagall, there would be a much greater TURNOUT.

Every word you have posted at the link (well done Blogdog - I'll post you a juicy indiscretion soon, as a reward) is conducive to a better banking situation, but it isn't the way life is lived. Did you attach a free offer? Is Karma the name of a Page Three girl? did you add a lot of salt, MSG, sugar etc. - or make it very loud? (Full marks for humour - I long for Spitting Image to return.)

We have now had generations of in-breeding such that nihilism is routinely expressed. I have long held the view that an ethical man (as I think you touched on) is either 'just that' or a consummate conman; the two are indistinguishable. You only find out 'afterwards'. Ethical Bank might be the ultimate Oxymoron?

I am still of the view (propounded, formulated and pursued - to nowhere, in 1995) that ONLY a move to develop adult abilities in very young children - to IMMUNISE them from parents, school and culture - has any chance of halting the decline.

My approach takes time, and even covert action - of a sort, yours is head on and might just start a fire. I will be more than happy to burn. (:o)

OTHER POSTS: Bravo! Group crying in the wilderness - can't beat it. No sign of that hero yet, though Hannan did a damned fine imitation! Should we try to sign him up?


SPIVs n VIPS

If you bank with the great Bank of Spiv
You will find that they take - and you give.
Though the top man’s a charmer
Just look to YOUR karma
Move cash - let ‘em crash. WAY TO LIVE!

MONARCHY DEBATE

'Angry' thoughts for the day.

Who hated Catholics and why?

What did Catholics do in 1290 and 1492?

Why is this relevant today?

What makes me angry is the hypocrisy of government (all governments).

MPs tell us how we should aim to be good citizens of society, pay our taxes etc and all the time they are 'manipulating the system' with their expense claims and their second homes, having marital affairs and generally not behaving like a 'good citizen' at all.

Don't even get me started on 'foreign policy'!

To quote Leo Tolstoy;
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.

All the usual stuff - bankers, M.P expenses etc but what really gets up my nose is why it takes so long to address some of these issues. For example, when it comes to the M.Ps expenses - in any business enterprise the M.D. would just put out a mail saying what you can claim and want you cannot - job done (they would not put it to a working party and a vote). As for their London accomodation all we need is an M.Ps Hall of Residence. Job done. Ans since I'm now potentially on a roll, I saw Gordon Brown at his New York press conference looking like a 15 year old kid coming back from school (conkers missing) - can we send his suit to the dry cleaners, with him inside (at taxpayers expense)?

From the pen of the FT's & LSE's Professor Willem Buiter:

"Too many bank insiders have exploited their monopoly of information and the control it bestows on them, to enrich themselves by robbing their shareholders blind. There has been a spectacular failure of corporate governance. Boards have foresaken their fiduciary duties. Surely, even the liability insurance taken out by board members ought not to shelter those who are guilty of, at best, such willfull negligence and dereliction of duty? Where are the class actions suits by disgruntled shareholders? Where are the board members in handcuffs?

Now that there is no meat left on the shareholder drumstick, the rogue managers and employees are going after a piece of the really juicy bird - the ever-patient tax payer. I hope they choke on it."

https://blogs.ft.com/maverecon/2009/03/moral-hazard-lite-and-strong/

AMORPHOUS GROUP ANARCHY AGA

That warm feeling of solid stability. There is a mad myth about that 'individuality' is bad; I venture to suggest it is an illusion, born of our experience of faux individuals in modern life. Our culture curtails development to maturity, hence any 'individual' is a posturing child full of angst. (That covers J Gordon Brown.)

A mature individual, standing strong in their own being, is far better placed to compromise for the greater good than a desperate, posturing wannabe. (That's Tony covered.) The mature individual is unassailable with charisma, rhetoric and a grand manner (there goes Obama) can resist spin and advertising, and cannot be either bribed or scared into a party-vote.

Unless we attend to the needs that NATURE DECREES VITAL for each new life, in the interests of optimum development NOT INSTITUTIONAL SCHOOLING but development to individual excellence (excellence of BEING not - as now - of DOING) the monetary mess will be followed by such serial mayhem, that only Tolkein and his ilk might envisage.

As Long John Silver so astutely said: "The dead will be the lucky ones".

The debate against capital punishment - from the usual crowd, bankers and bent MPs will always have the red mist making an appearance in my world.....and the utterences of the Guardian readership brigade.
Can we not legalise torture? ..that would make me happy:)

Yes, I have read 'Atlas Shrugged' and a lot of other Ayn Rand work.

If 'Angry of wherever' thinks Ayn rand's prescriptions are the answer then they have truly failed to understand the question. She was much (although not totally) ignored during her lifetime because the solutions she proposed were not that dissimilar to those the world had not long previously fought a long and bloody war against.

She was an advocate of a belief in 'superior beings' - those to whom the rules did not apply. She broke her husband through her dalliances with younger men, which she justified with an 'ubermensch' philosophy that the rules didn't apply to the elite. Hypocrisy is another way of putting it - do as I say, not as I do (oh yes, she believed herself very well equipped to tell others what to do).

Apart from that, she occasionally made a good point about stifling bureaucracy. But let not one swallow lead anyone to believe in the arrival of an endless summer. She was just another old-style, authoritarian right-winger. Anyone who advocates implementing her ideas has clearly not been watching, reading or listening over the past 20+ years, while unshackled titans of the financial world used their freedoms to bring the world to the brink of ruin. It's old hat, proven to be disastrous and not worth spending precious air on.

Anger and disgust with the biased reporting and indeed the non-reporting of the BBC.

Perhaps if we could get the media to discuss real news instaead of who should be next in line to the throne.

The world is being taken to hell in a handcart by the rogue eugenicist's world governments and all we get is the same old s--t.

"You are fired" by Alan Sugar. "You danced s--t last night, good bye." "Housemates this is.....on and on and on.

I for one don't want to be put in a work, extermination camp.

All indications are, we're in the same position as Germany 1929. Obama is the new puppet, like Hitler was then, and we are all doomed if we don't act against these Illuminati scum NOW!

SEDITION FOR A GREATER CAUSE?

ajkgrumpy (#19) "All the usual stuff - bankers, M.P expenses etc but what really gets up my nose is why it takes so long to address some of these issues."

What if...... what if all these things are precisely what they are anarchically engineering in order to a) Balkanize the UK (Regional Development Agencies/Assemblies) as part of slotting us into the EU as NUTS (~6m in size like Scotland, united Ireland, Finland etc) and b) establishing a global system of government?

That's why all they seem to do is talk in my view. In fact, I suspect this has been engineered strategically for some time - possibly for what's considered to be everyone's best interests?

Nation states have gone to war in the past. Other countries are a problem for national goverments when they have to trade internationally. Solution: get rid of nation states and one gets rid of protectionism nd wars. Create a federation of states a global one and you can govern more efficiently.

In the end, everything else makes no sense as they are all behaving akin to anarchists.

Are they really incompetent? Do they really trust 'the market' or is that all being used just to break up the state?

I gave up getting angry at MP`s, now I just simply ignore them and their false promises and childish antics.
Makes me wonder why I served my Country & Queen when I look at the mess these politicians have got my country in.

Firstly website that dont support firefox make me mad... can you please fix the bug that you Blog site have so i can use a standard supporting browser...

More seriously i work within a company that does governemtn contract and the ammount of money that so called governement benifits and approvals analysis makes me so mad. I was on a £10 million project that delivered to the MoD over 10 years. and it was 2 years late starting cos they spent £4 million on consultants from PA conulting to do an benifits anlysis to proove the £10m was worth spending!!!! come on!

They also employed 3 civil survents to monitor the 3 consultants to check they were "doing the job properly" what a waste of tax payers money.

Check out this open letter to Gordon Brown.
Pretty much says it all
https://katirai.com
Although not 100% accurate, it's more accurate than any of Gord's predictions.

I had shares in Lloyds TSB - lost 91% in value
I had shares in HBOS - gone
I had shares in BT - worth less now than when bought them 25 years ago
I had shares in GEC -Marconi - gone
Cheers Gord.

This won't cure anger or its causes, but it will temporarily take you to a delightful if not untroubled place. I've just finished reading VS Naipaul's first novel 'The Mystic Masseur'. It's a world of folly, laziness, vanity, greed and envy in all its recognizable sweet humanity. The difference there is that human vulnerability leads to (sometimes unintended) acts of kindness, rather than opportunism. It is also hilariously funny. A wonderful world to visit, even though it might make you batty to live there.

What i do not understand is how these bankers knew about the state of things and yet were abloe to set up massive compensation packages prior to their Banks demise.Alos when the ministers looked at the books they wouldf have seen these enormous packages which were to benefit the high ranking bankers and yet still rubber stamped it for government help.
I still say that most the finaicla support should have gone directly to manufacturing partners including the building industry which would have kick started the economy.Our whole ethos is based on asset wealth so when threatened the people contract and sit it out.
I for one have applied to banks for the Governemtn loan Guarantee Scheme which is aimed at helping new businesses start where funds from the entrepeneurs are limited.The Banks still want a minimum of 30% up front ie 70/30 so the whole idea of the scheme is a sham.Six to Seven people could now have well paid jobs now if the scheme was gievne to help people like me. I am very experienced in this area of business so there was little or no risk.

The slowest moderator in the world makes me angry!

I find it so stupid that the three main parties and trying everything to block any progress of the BNP.From experience the more you do that to prevent their existence ,the more everyone will want to know more about them.
Being in denail will not work if they have something to say let them say it ,as long as you all keep to the rules of engagement.
Let people make their own minds up.Its like telling your daughter not to have sex,if you don`t explain why she`s going to try !

Candide - especially in Bernstein mode. Clearly we do not live in the best of all possible worlds and we need to make our gardens grow.

I am particularly angry at the Government neglect of the severely mentally ill. If through neglect they come to Court, their medical history should be available, and their disposal not to prison, but to a secure environment where they get appropriate treatment. also there is little or no programme of rehabilitation for this group of severely ill people.

I wrote to my MP well before the banking crisis was in full flow and asked Why Mervin King and co felt that inflation was the problem and not taking the right course of action. It was like running towards a cliff in your car and waiting until it was going over until applying the brakes. Just like watching Zulu and the British reserve. Furious is a better word for this abuse of trust by a nation of Lions

The total lack of proper analysis by your so called political staff of whom the Political Editor is a prime example. Most of the output appears to be written from government friendly press releases.

The biggest mystery is what was the deal done with Bush that was so big we went into an illegal war for? The link could well prove to be why we are in recession today. Blair is no fool and yet he appears to have been foolish.

Keynote (no. 29)

As all the companies in which you have held shares are shareholder-owned and not, therefore, under the command of the government, how do you reach the conclusion that Gordon Brown is responsible for their failures?
Should you not, rather, be pointing the finger at their managements?

(Undeclared Tory Party supporters and like-minded others, who would rather rail against the government for everything - not excluding bad weather - than work to build a consensus for recovery REALLY make me angry)

I am angry that the BBC does not realise that it already employs a man - PAUL MASON - that understands very well what is going wrong with the World economy, but it doesn't use his inputs on its peak time news programmes. Instead it uses the lame techniques of "explanation" effectively satirised in the BBC4 programme, Newswipes.

I am also angry that even on Newsnight, the anchors are all so 'artsy' in their own education and training that they cannot conduct a penetrating interview of any economist, scientist or engineer. Nor can they tell that when they have both a talent - such as the FT's Gillian Tett - and a clapped-out politician in the studio at the same time, sufficient weight needs to be given to the one that actually knows what she's talking about.

We're angry, as mad as hell, because more than ever before politicians are not listening to us.

It's bleeding obvious to almost everyone except politicians that we shouldn't be in Iraq or Afghanistan;

that Western, particularly American, policy in the middle east has been a disaster and is the wellspring of terrorism;

that we have been complicit in torture and rendition;

that human rights at home and abroad have been diminished;

that India, Pakistan, Israel and the original nuclear powers are all in breach of the nuclear proliferation act;

that the UN is a sham as longer as a single country can frustrate the will of the rest of the world;

that unbridled greed has brought misery to the innocent (was it Gandhi who said "there is enough for man's needs but not for his greed"?);

that we are subsidising those whose greed created our economic pain;

that we are over-populating the planet to extinction

... and much, much more.

We're angry, too, with the media for they have generally supported the government line - the middle East is a prime example. Where was the reporting of George Galloway's convoy to Gaza? Why was criticism of the war crime in Gaza muted? And whether you share his views or not how do you explain the You Tube phenomenon of MEP Daniel Hannan's speech which was hardly reported by the mainstream media?

Maybe the answer is we live in what are effectively one party states.

Rather than Atlas Shrugged read Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine".


Yours, more in sorrow than in anger and in concern for our grandchildren.

I am livid that after working for most of my adult life and through no fault of my own I am now obliged to live on Incapacity benefit, I am treated as no better than a scrounger by the DWP. In the 70s when I had a young family to support I made the sacrifice of 5% of my salary to a Pension. I now find that because I receive this as an occupational pension that my local council penalises me by reducing my housing and council tax benefits accordingly. My Occupational pension only amounts to £17 a week. However, if I had put the money I contributed to a pension into a savings account. As long as it didn't exceed £6,000, I could happily draw a £100 a month from this for up to five years and my HB and CT would be paid by the council in full. Others who have never worked a day in their lives seem to get everything they whinge for whilst those who have paid their taxes have to fight tooth and nail for their rights at a time when they need it most. Incapacity benefit is for all intents and purposes what was called sickness benefit. I have been receiving it whilst undergoing radiotherapy treatment for prostate and bladder cancer. And yet when mentioning the name 'Incapacity Benefit' at the local Job Centre we are received with an arctic approach as if we are using a swear word. Can you believe, bearing in mind that many who are in receipt of IB are long term ill and extremely vulnerable, they do NOT qualify for cold weather payments. Anyone on income support or JSA qualify even though they could be as fit as a butcher's dog. But anyone who whilst ill and needs to stay warm does not qualify for Cold weather payments, even if the weather conditions are met. I have had a ketter from Kate Usher, labour MP for Burnly that deals with DWP benefits and she has adfvised me that the Government have no plans to change this policy in the forseeable future. This is how uncaring this labour Government has become. Where they will see healthy claimants catered for and the vulnerable left out in the cold. I've been a labour man all my life but I shan't be giving them my support at the next election.

I get very angry indeed that people don't seem to care (to the extent of doing something about it) that some regimes are very unfair to women. We all, very properly, cried out about apartheid, and in the end it stopped. Viewing women as worth merely half a man and without the right to decide on their own futures is just as bad. And the tacit acceptance of the fact that some cultures practise female genital mutilation is ghastly.

Strongly agree with determinedWilsonJM. It's not good enough just to accept that all these poor quality loans were packaged as AAA by force majeure or some forgivable slip on behalf of nobody in particular. It's blatant fraud with real people and real motives behind it. It was likely known damn well what the result would be, so it would be sensible to look at who profited from the collapse. Those responsible should be traced all the way back and put under investigation. And I'd eat my hat if the chain didn't lead back to Bush & his banking chums.

Government interference in the everyday lives of citizens on the pretext that they know best, but no interference in business institutions. Cleverly dividing the population with there anti- drinking , anti smoking, anti junk food. and social engineering We are hammered if we break the speed limit by five miles an hour, place rubbish in the wrong receptacles. Fines and penalties handed out by private agencies. Taxed to the limit of endurance. Surveillance everywhere to "combat terrorism". Ordinary citizens are oppressed while financiers, bankers, essential utility companies and multi national corporations get away with daylight robbery. Anger doesn't begin to describe it. Ministers are so detached from reality it beggars belief.

We need no heroes, we are each, collectively, indivisible our own heroes.

Anger? Yes we are angry, but we temper that anger with knowledge and wisdom. We know that the banking classes and the socially dominant within society are inciting anger as a policy. They are doing it on purpose.

Our anger plays into their hands and they WANT us to revolt. The governing class are even challenging us, daring us to revolt. This is their trap for us, for IF we take this bait, we are done for. They Civil Contingencies Act shall be invoked and we lose everything. Yes they have set the trap and now the powers that be have their puppet media (ALL mainstream TV and print news media) bait that trap for us daily. The BBC are inciting violence and rioting with this very article that this comment in in response to. It is clear as day. I laugh at it, for it is SO BLATANT. I can see it and say, Oh look, it it's a trap! It is so blatant as to be laughable. This is where I draw MY power from and it is where the angry population should, and will, draw their true indefatigable power from. It is the ONLY power we have.

The only REAL power we have is the power that WE voluntarily GIVE to the powers that be every day. Violence and Anger shall not draw that back, but shall only entrench that power further away from us. We can withdraw that power from those who have and continue to abuse it. We can do so lawfully and peacefully and it is the ONE THING that the elites fear the most. It is the one thing they want to avoid the most and it is the reason that they daily create provocations galore. They are TERRIFIED. and I mean utterly terrified beyond reason, because they know, and they know that we know that we have the power to remove their power at will, easily and all at once.

Lawful rebellion and the peaceful refusal to comply with their system is the MOST POWERFUL weapon we have and it is one that they cannot possibly Weald , nor defeat.

The story I read that daily inspires me is 'And Then There Were None' by Eric Frank Russel.

FREEDOM - I WON'T! It is the most powerful weapon in the world and WE EACH HAVE IT and we can LAWFULLY and PEACEFULLY use it whenever we choose.

The time is nigh.

What makes me angry is all the stuff we've been hearing about with the so-called credit crunch.
Because the BBC is state controlled, and because the other news channels are commercially controlled, there is no truly independant news media prepared to campaign for the punishment suited to this massive crime. Instead, we are forced to witness the biggest theft of public money - and worse, the sanctioning of even more public money to be paid to the thieves who started all this in the first place!!
Brown, Cameron and co are all part of the problem. The BBC, or a truly independant news medium should be campaigning to get rid of all these criminals.
Oh, and while we're about it, lets have a Constitution. Even the most backward countries manage to get one of those - and I don't mean the tricky-dicky thing that Straw is punting!!

What makes me angry is arrogant, disingenuous MPs who have a " do what i say not what i do " attitude. Bankers who seem to think they can take what risks they like knowing they will never be answerable while pocketing our money. Unaccountability of those who wield the power in parliament. Those things aside i`d say i was pretty happy.

About time News night! I am no Tory, I voted Labour - but never ever again....GB and TB have made me very very angry - especially for the war lie, and where is that TB hiding - he seems to have disappeared, I guess he knew what was coming so got out in time!??
I need help from someone who can tell me how to use my vote (in our UNdemocratic voting system) so that I do not let in by default either Labour or Conservative. How can it be done? are others wondering too?
I have noted comments: 8, 19, 24, 37, 38 as particularly useful. I looked up Katirai.com whose letter to the PM is deservedly strong, but Mr or Mrs Katirai should have included who he/she is so we could judge the agenda.
Thanks to Barrie no 4 for the You Tube link to DANIEL HANNAN - Brilliant but this Tory presumably supported Thatcher who with Reagan started the whole mess. That our UNelected PM Gordon B and his ministers are more right wing than even Thatcher is gutting. By the way- why do we never see the EU in action - and why not show Daniel Hannan on Newsnight? It is shocking that it was not shown.

Where is the anger about our country being overcrowded (over-run) by immigrants?

Today's headline (by some broadsheets and others, but not by BBC) shows the adverse impact, in terms of huge population increases by uncontrolled immigrations, and future surges due to high birth rates of second and third generation non-British born mothers.

We have become gagged by laws and slurs about 'racism'. I'm married to an Asian, but had to go to a full Tribunal Hearing in London to challenge a refusal to allow a student visa for a relative. The scene there was like my long experiences of working in 3rd world countries - some 500 people and not one white face (except mine) amongst the applicants, their sponsors, advocates, legal advisers, translaters, and judges.
My case should not have been refused as no challenge was made against my grounds for appeal, neither did the Home Office bother to send a representative - yet I had to go through these elaborate delay procedures for over 6 months before getting justice.
No wonder so many foreigners get rich on the processes of dispensing this justice to fellow-foreigners.
I expect this post will prompt the cry of 'goose-stepper', but the failure of heed the warnings of those like Migration Watch and Office of Statistics, represents mass sleepwalking into the creation of a 3rd world Britain.

These recent months have come to seem like a complex puzzle with the pieces falling into place, or not. For instance, if Gordon Brown now presents himself as being an expert on world finance and therefore our saviour, how was it he didn't - especially as a good Old or New Labour man - know what's been going on these past 10 years? Alternatively, if he did know, if all along he has been the expert, didn't he fail miserably to act?

This isn't a new thought, I know, but I am trying to say something about why the anger is real, while at the same time the powers that be, politicians and bankers, here and across the world, don't by and large own up to what's been going on. So we are in what seems a dreamlike state. Are we awake now and not dreaming still?

PS... maxkeiser.com I can thoroughly recommend on the subject....

Continued: I am angry at the mess that is the NHS - cost 100 billion pounds per year. A friend just had an operation (on her feet so could not walk) in the Hommerton Hospital London and received absolutely NO nursing at all. She gave me a list as a warning, should I (or you) have the misfortune to be a patient in this frightening place:
1 take tissues as no paper accompanied the bedpan, which had to be begged for and was more or less thrown at her.
2 take wet wipes as bed bathing is no longer given.
3 Take bottles of water as she found it very hard to get a 'nurse' to bring her water,
4 take a relative or good friend to nurse you or a mobile phone to call for help.
5 take anti bacterial stuff as the ward literally stunk of urine and faeces. I suppose MPs etc all go private as part of their expenses.
I am angry that the CEO of the hospital in Staffordshire (tip of the iceburg?) was not arrested along with the minister for health, for the manslaughter of more than 400 people and the hospital closed down - Health and safety is apparently everywhere but not in British hospitals! Shipman only did 200 and he ended up in prison.

atlas shrugged? people are reading it cos Paul blogged about it. Doh! lol.

"What makes me angry?"
Well, incessant announcements on London Underground that "services are operating normally" (if they do, there is no need to say so), to "report suspicious behaviour" to the security services immediately at great haste, because a forgotten shopping bag with potatoes is surely an act of terrorism, to "stand back from the platform edge as the train approaches" (but there is no train) - you get my drift.

I'm seething, top of my list is the inadequate, unjust sentencing in this country for violent crime & murder. I've just read that Jimmy Mizzen's murderer received `LIFE` 14 years, he will be swaggering back on our streets aged 33 years old. Jimmy Mizzen lost 70 years of his life, his brothers lost 70 years with him, his parents have lost 30-40 years with their son and possible future grandchildren. How can 14 years possibly compensate their loss?
A Paedophile just attacked a 12 year old while being monitored!
Violent people, murderers & Paeodophiles should live in secure walled `villages`for LIFE, not amongst us. We are only in danger from people already known to the police. Life must mean life at the very least. This injustice burns away inside me every day without fail. Our judicial circles and governments must represent the Devil himself to tolerate such atrocities and add so much pain to families already suffering.
Sentencing generally is laughable, burglary, violence in homes, muggings etc blight peoples lives, yet perpetraitors receive suspended sentences and curfews! By not dealing with these nasty people, kids become trapped in gangs out of fear, the old stay indoors.
100,000 more prison places are needed and zero tolerance on all violent related crimes. Full prisons are no detterent.

1. Politicians not being held to account.
2. Politicians making up their own rules, turning it into policy and then saying 'i've done nothing wrong as i've only followed the rules.
3. Government Policies that have continuously armoured the banks with Power and Control and Arrogance. This protectionism has meant that banks - Chief Exec's have got away with failings many small businesses, in fact - individuals, through the banks own incompetence.
4. The failure of the News Media to go where Politicians dare not - into the heart of communities to see where policies are and have failed many individuals and families and then hold the local and central government to account.
5. Jade Goody was able to get all the media attention she craved and made a fortune by doing so - nobody really knows why. But what about those with appalling issues where they have been failed by governments policy, weakness of local MPs and teh lack of Media attention. Why doesn't the News Media adopt a much broader scope and thus give those in need an opportunity to get airplay to their appalling story. Surely this is fair?

What troubles me most is that well intentioned law, race and gender discrimination, the data protection act, human rights and so on have so quickly been turned into a stick with which to beat us.

And it's always the very people those laws were originally framed to help who manipulate them way beyond their original intent.

We're angry because we are subject to non-stop nagging. We are nagged by the human rights industry. We're nagged by equality groups. We're nagged by broadcasters. We're nagged by politicians. We're nagged by asylum seekers. We're nagged by criminals. We're nagged by judges. We're nagged day after day after day by people who think we owe them a cushy living. We're nagged by people who hate our way of life, culture and language and are willing to bribe politicians to trample over the majority to change it. And when we're not being nagged we're being subjected to a constant diet of obscenity through films, plays, tv and pornographic magazines or through tv, radio and newspapers who use the "public interest" excuse to bombard us with stories about rape, sadistic murder, child abuse.
No-one tries to stop property developers ruining the London skyline with unwanted ugly carbuncles. Minority groups with less sense than they were born with go around rewriting our history to justify their malign views while busily inventing fancifully flattering histories of their own. Our politicians are for sale to the highest bidder and while they're selling themselves they're also selling unelected sinecures, British passports, peerages, contracts, planning permissions, national land and property, home and foreign policy. Our broadcasters are weak, ignorant and/or corrupt and spend their time filling the airwaves with government propaganda or programmes involving morons dressed in glitter and prime colours against clashing badly made sets or cretinous music with vile lyrics that we're told has the same worth as Beethoven. Our education system has been dumbed down to the lowest common denominator so that the stupidest people on the planet are awarded meaningless degrees taught by third rate lecturers in tenth rate educational establishments. The theatres are full of utter bilge in the form of musicals for bowling club coach trips who are conned up from the provinces to stay in 2 star 'hotels' in Brentford.
When broadcasters give us a breather from the propaganda and porn they only stop to bombard us with criticism and malice directed towards the middle class, the monarchy,the church or anyone who's tried to get a better education for their children and pays their bills on time.
The police can't stop crime. Customs can't stop illegal immigration. The streets are knee deep in litter. No-one in the shops/buses/hospitals can speak proper English so there's no cheery banter to help us get through the day. The shops are full of badly designed, badly made, third world rubbish and its impossible to buy anything made lovingly and beautifully unless you're a millionaire or you go abroad to find it. Once we've paid the electricity, the gas, the community charge, the water, the tv licence, the tax there's not much left but still they want more. MPs salaries; MPs chauffeur-driven cars and air travel; interest on PFIs; education for foreign students rather than our own; overseas aid for people who can't be bothered to help themselves; illegal wars; perks for bureaucrats, BBC executives; civil servants and the ever-burgeoning heap of freeloaders and sleazebags with their hands in our bank accounts. And then there are the judges, the lawlords, the barristers, the prison inspectors whose only interest is the human rights of criminals and whose contempt for the victims of crime is a daily insult. And the doctors who feel not the slightest obligation to pay lipservice to the hippocratic oath and many of whom, along with nurses, demonstrate a careless compassion deficit. Patients are seen variously as subjects for experimentation and research; a means to British residency or a lucrative income.
Then there are the queues that aren't queues but just ill-disciplined every-man-for-himself scrums; the overcrowded transport; the inefficiency; the lost and stolen mail; the everlasting attempts to ruin our soil and flora with GM crops; the ridiculous health and safety police; the politically correct wet blankets.
How could anyone not be angry when politicians who should spend their time putting everything right, simply spend their time lining their pockets and feathering their nests?

Yes I'm angry!

- about bankers who took risks with other people's money, lost a lot of it, get bailed out by the taxpayer, and still expect to keep their enormous pensions and bonuses

- about governments that set up the light-touch regulation that the bankers asked for and that allowed the bankers to get away with it

- about MPs that claim allowances from the public purse that they shouldn't really be entitled to, but insist they haven't broken the rules (that's because the rules were set up by MPs), and even if they do get caught then all they have to do is say a few words of apology

- about people that break the law and still expect to sit in the House of Lords

- about politicians that allow the Israeli government to invade and terrorise their neighbouring countires

- about the lies we were told to get us into Bush's war in Iraq - Why did Blair have to follow Bush? Was Bush blackmailing him over something?

- about politicians who pretend that the terrorism we face is not the result of our foreign policy of invading countries that were no threat to us

Where is the accountability? Some bankers should be in jail. Some politicians should be on trial for war crimes at The Hague. Will it ever happen?

Quote "A Paedophile just attacked a 12 year old while being monitored!
Violent people, murderers & Paeodophiles should live in secure walled `villages`for LIFE"

Don't you realise they are - it's called the UK
and extra police and 60,000 trained civillians
have been put in place to control it.

to get really angry - follow the news on the BBC!!!

usually it is the lack of balance, eg. some minister evades the question(s) put, even when pressed for an answer BUT there is no "price to pay".
journalists should cite evidence, not be shy to "embarrass" the politician -- if they're caught out, expose them!

check N Robinsons blog of trip to Brazil & comments -- you'll see what I mean.

Oh yes I am angry, angry at the system that can allow greedy banks and bankers to cause such havoc and get away with it.
Angry that not one person has thought about the fact that vulnerable people who have had accidents and have their money with the Office of Public Guardianship have had their awards made when the interest rate was 6% and thus the calculation for their future care is going to be insufficient, who will care for them when their money runs out ? I am sure it will not be the greedy banks or the bankers out of their bonuses.

What makes me mad is the fact that we have so many lawyers and bankers in politics and a dearth of successful businessmen. The result is that we have an overload of un-necessary or un-enforceable laws on our statute book and a banking system that was to all intents and purposes an un-regulated free for all (with carte-blanche from our political leaders to pay themselves obscene bonuses for short-term profits). No wonder people are disconnected from politics when they see way some politicians use the system to line their own pockets. Our 'first past the post' system ensures that we usually end up with an elected dictatorship - the governing party normally has enough majority to push through anything they want to (and even mis-use the parliment act if they are Nulabour)

dont get angry get even (u dont like it dont buy/pay for it uman right)

I'm off tit pub (the right room for a right argument and more)

Re: BBC TV news channel 80 female sports caster Friday 27/03/09 17.30hrs.

Where on earth do the BBC find female sports presenters? Is the main criterion to appoint dolly-birds? Having just watched the early evening programme it appears the young lady presenter had about as much passion or interest in sport as a wet flannel. Obviously reading from a tele-prompter she clearly has little or no knowledge on any of the four sports mentioned. Worse still, her fluffy flowery waffle and dreadful squeaky, screeching voice made viewing impossible.

I'm sure she's a nice girl but please give her something else to do off screen.

how unsurprising that the bbc would use the example of the "neo-liberal" ayn rand - but wouldn't it be great if the "entrpreneurs" would go "on strike"! after all, these great masters of the universe have done so much for us all with their "private sector efficiency"...anyway, the anger thing isn't new - what is new is that things have changed so much that you can't pretend it doesn't exist.

I have been a floating voter for 25 years and adamant that my politics are centre of the road. I strongly believe that we help to keep stability within a democracy as a tribal vote for one or other party does us no good in the long run.
It is essentail,therefore that we form our views upon a well balanced presentation of content. The last decade has seen an unprecedented trend to manipulation of the media and the BBC should be constantly on guard that they present a news report rather than a media piece of PR prompted by one or other parties,often quoted verbatim. Earlier this week we are presented with the P.M speaking to Europe but are denied a brilliant speech from Daniel Hannan which has clearly been limited to a web audience for what reason? Either the BBC choose not to do so because it is critical to what some editors accept as their views or they have misunderstood the news content of this reply.

What makes me angry? Blatant Labour party propaganda shown by the BBC instead of meeting their charter obligations to political neutrality.

Compare and contrast the sycophantic treatment on the BBC the Sub-Prime Minister's wasting time over a three hundred year old law law that affects (at most) half a dozen people *and* will take years to change (as it has to be agreed with 15 sovereign governments) - with the BBCs intentional non-reporting of the most popular political speech on YouTube, on a subject of vital importance to the UK - the destruction of our economy.

Wht don't the BBC| reporters wear their Labour party membership cards on their suits? It would be more honest!

Firstly Politicians don't listen and will continue to ignore the electorate while trotting out the usual platitudes and drink from the trough of expenses at Westminster. Secondly we seem to have an idiot in charge at number 10 who believes he can reinvent the financial system of world banking. He is waving Lord Turners reforms around as if it were the answer. How can someone like Lord Turner and the FSA continue to regulate the financial system. The Bank of England should be responsible for policing the financial system. They are supposed to implement government policy while the FSA has been turning a Brown eye to everything. The taxpayer has given the banks billions and yet you cant get a loan for less than 8%. Am I angry yes but not one politician will listen. Brown is more responsible than any other member of this shambolic Government. My Vote Does Not Count along with millions of others.

we are all angry...but I am angry at some contributers who condemn the people who actually want to march against these crooks with phrases like 'they are hooligans, the police should lock them all up' etc., we would still have kids up chimneys, women still fighting for the vote, no trade unions if these people had their way. I am angry at the apathetic and docile attitude of we, the British people who have stood by and let this chaos happen....

HONOURABLE IS AS THE HONOURABLE MEMBER DOES.

If it were not for the fact that they are called 'members' and they meet in a chamber, I would find contemplation of British politicians almost impossible, without auto-combustion.

I keep hearing the cry go up (from politicians) that most of them really are honourable! Now how can that be? They belong to the party - body and soul yet claim to represent US, and can be heard, daily, defending the indefensible to gain Brown-ie points (or Dave Stamps).

Any honest fool can see that democracy is not served at Westminster, yet not one of these wannabe ciphers stands up to be counted on our behalf.

It is this doublethink, by constituency MPs, that should be challenged and lampooned at election time. They should be asked, over and over, to stand as INDEPENDENTS, on their personal attributes rather than party manifesto and rosette. Just watch the panic in their eyes.

I shall certainly do everything in my power to make the good burghers of Newbury aware of the bum deal they get, come the day.

What am I angry about? It is to do with the Monty Python country I now live in.
How long have you got?
I need two hours in front of David Cameron, with him sworn to silence and listening.
I can give him material for a landslide victory next election around.

We all know "it's the economy, Stupid!" BUT (i) is there no drug problem? or has this become an accepted feature of modern life,
(ii) is there no crime? no drug related crime? No bias in favour of the offender, stuff Joe Public the offended?

(iii) what has he said against the surrender of "human rights" of British citizens in the case e.g. of the NatWest three, carted off in shackles onto an American plane, the PM Blair, insisting to the House "there is nothing I can do!" Blair and Blunkett should be tried for treason on this count alone...not a whimper from Cameron.
(iv) EU including Britain have just signed an EU law allowing member countries..YES Bulgaria for example, to extradite British citizens on suspicion of a crime in their country. You can write the script:
they trawl the Yellow Pages, file a few hundred claims a
month, and once you've been handed over by this authority they require payment for repatriation. No parliamentary debate, just signed on our behalf.
(vi) what correction is promised to the Monty Python state of political correctness in this country?..the David Jason , the BBC "golliwog", and Prince Harry issues could not have been written into a Monty Python script 15 years ago.

(v) what about the car parking Mafia, move the car with a couple of (guess where from) heavies on to the white line, clamp, charge for release.



(vii) what opposition do we see to the ever -ridiculously Stalinist powers of local authorities? Commissars for this and that and swingeing fines if you have the temerity to refuse access.

(ix) what the hell are we doing chasing turbaned idiots in the sands of Helmand on the justification this is the war against terror... at a cost of billions we have not got. What rhetoric has Brown for the families when the troops eventually, as they must, pull out?
7000 troops here could form a militia and sort out infected urban areas, our porous borders and those who so easily, currently, squeeze through them.
Does Sangatte herald the partial recovery of the Calais area, we lost under Elizabeth I?

(x) I am angry that my country is being led, with its citizens sleepwalking, into economic, moral and cultural oblivion and no-one notices, as long as there is something on the telly.
Orwell had it spot -on, the Thought Police are with us.

The M.O. of this govt is :- Moralise, demonise, TAX. no? what about, 4by4's, large cars, non-PC foods, smoking, drinking, car travel, air travel, house has a nice view, your lad's doing better than my lad at school..sort out that better school.

We are all sick to death of apologising for being British or even having a culture whose differences might cause offence to some notional minority.

Finally, I am profoundly saddened that, despite the inevitable eventual removal of the Brown "administration", the opposition does not merely not know the solutions to our problems, it does not even recognise the problems.

David, if you want to hear this and some more, I'll meet you over a pint! Beanscallowman

BBC bias and moderation.

Gordon Brown.

The erosion of civil liberties.

Organised religion.

The slow but sure eradication of England.

No vote on the EU.

Incomers expecting us to change our laws to reflect their dark age religions.

Sharia courts, Deth Din courts and any law in England but English law.

Oh yes I am very very angry.

back from tit pub

met a man who is difficient in the leg dept

A Paratrooper/3 Para

Am I Mad/Angry

Where did he lose it/who lost it for him

Is the person in CHARGE in charge

not even of him/it self

There is quite a lot to be angry about, the economy, government failings etc. But the one thing that does make so many angry is the ridiculous justice system we have. The punishment does not fit the crime and as a result we have no practical deterent to stop the decline of our society. No one can expect utopia, but we should at least be safe on our streets, in our schools, on our transport and in our pursuit of contentment. Mass unchecked immigration is now adding to peoples anger as they see their jobs and lives vanish under a mountain of people, draining housing, welfare and medical resources. Resources they have helped create over years of hard work and pride. Now that pride is gone, that sense of being is almost erased by a constant battering of our way of life. The total inability of our so called leaders to hear what the people are saying. The lack of courage to stand up and say enough is enough, the country is full. There is no more room, no streets paved with gold, no free ride at others expense. We are, as has already been written and warned, heading for civil unrest. You only have to go out on the streets to see it. The looks, the mutterings, the whispered comments.
Thats what makes me angry, sad and dissappointed. That our elected leaders are not listening to us in the slightest and I doubt they ever will.

John Lydon once sang, "Anger is an energy." My rage was recaptured after millions of people's global protests against an unjust and needless war were cynically ignored. The slippery slope since then has been very steep indeed.

The current economic crisis has served to show "ordinary" people that their belief that hard work, thrift, decency and good citizenship would result in some form of reciprocity have been a cruel joke. Fairness demonstrably no longer exists and, if the citizens see no reason to keep their part of the social contract, government and "the establishment" have good reason to be fearful of the consequences.

I'M ANGRY ALRIGHT....
Thieving bankers,increased council tax and MPs grining like IDIOTS will lining their pockets at our expense. They should be STRUNG UP....!!

Recently my wife applied for a B-2 tourist visa for a 3 month vacation to travel with me to the U.S. She met all the qualifications and supplied certified documents relating to her personal life and proof of intent to return to Vietnam. On the day of her mandatory, 5 minute interview, there were 200 applicants interviewing. Each one paid a $131 dollar non-refundable interview deposit for the scheduled interview. Of the 200, only 20, or 10% were given visas. Do the math, all the U.S. Consulates world wide X 200, than reject 80%. Mandatory deposits, mandatory interviews, 200 a day, scheduled only on-line through the Consulates, then reject 80% of those. All of this money is deposited into an account with citibank and your receipt is required at the interview. If you want to appeal, you must go through the entire process again, including the $131 dollar deposit, however, they tell you up front that once your denied, your chances are slim to none that you will ever be approved. This definately puts me into the high end of anger.

Like many of the posts here, I too feel anger towards the greedy, arrogant and corrupt bankers, politicians and corporations. I could probably live with the fact that their only objective is to create and hoard vast amounts of wealth for themselves if, at some point, they were capable of reforming when their greed destroys the entire economy and the lives of millions of people. But alas, what actually happens is that nothing changes for them, and their lives continue as normal. But I have an even deeper anger towards myself and millions of others like me, for feeling powerless and afraid to change things. I despise the fact that we have the freedom to eject and elect whoever we want as our government, only to discover that none of them really serve the nation as they constantly prove by enriching themselves the rest of us witness the slow erosion of the foundations of our society such as the NHS and education. If I thought for one moment that law-abiding protesting would bring about fundamental change I would be in there like a shot. But the scary truth is that only something akin to a revolution could ever change the system.

Whats making me angry? at the moment its my inabillity to contact South East Water Ltd. to pay our water bill! and speak to a human being, I,ve tried all their phone lines including the "emergency" line all you get dial 1, 2, 3 ,4 and 30 miniutes of musak!, their e-mail responce time is quoted at 10 days! . I guess they have all us captive customers and dont care. Why 0845 phone No,s to pay or report a leak? Gosh Im rambling on its just me pensions running out!! Its just I did,ent get the £m? payout from the tax payer the RBOS got!

1. Phoney outrage from media journalists who know full well that the only benefit of their anger will be their own bank balance.
2. Phoney concern from politicos who lie through their teeth to stay on the gravy train.
3. Phoney priniciples from the professions, whose fangs come out at the first sign of threat from more knowledgeable lay folk.
4. Phoney scaremongering from security services whose behaviour leads to people dying and them expanding their budgets long-term.
5. Men who regularly bed mistresses preaching about morality within marriage.
6. Women who are useless in bed attacking 'evil men who use defenceless girls'.
7. Foreigners bleeding us dry whilst preaching how fair and principled they are.
8. Mr ten per cents in Africa pleading poverty.
9. The English saying how free of drugs their sports are.
10. Drug dealers becoming established members of society via 'entering new markets'.
11. Scottish Nationalists using the HBOS/RBS scandal as yet another excuse to demand independence.

MPs salaries

Bankers Salaries.

Well done to the ppl who smashed up Goodwins house.

Not desperately happy to have a government that is a poodle of those bankers, an extension of the Israeli foreign ministry.

The way the government mps and ministers alike keep saying the same old things ,its like if they repeat it long enough we will believe it .. how dare they claim all the money for expenses ? dont we all live on the same planet , we all have to get to work and lots of us work very unsocial hours , tough its the job you wanted and the money is great as far as i can see , you lot wont suffer in your retirement your pensions are well looked after , they insult us at every turn with that condesending smile , let us have an election very very soon , but oh who do we vote for ?? it seems we have the same incompetents in the torys as well !! I feel so angry and so unable to do anything about it , and there lies their power .

Anger is a strong word. I am frustrated with humanity as a collective. We have all of the means at our disposal to create a beautiful world, yet we are seemingly incapable of doing so, this both frustrates and saddens me.

SPOIL PARTY GAMES - NAIL YOUR CANDIDATES WITH REALITY

To all those above who feel unable to do anything, the first move it to recognise how vulnerable these party ciphers are when an election is called.

Are they party or people? (Look on the internet for their shaky dual allegiance).
Ask then to publicly refuse the whip - that flushes out the truth of their situation.
Ask them if you should vote for the rosette or the person.

The stunt they all pull is 'Vote for me - I am the right PERSON to represent YOU' when it is really: 'Vote for this rosette, representing the party with all its faceless trickery that I (a rosette stand) will never challenge, on your behalf, as it is my master'. Put this to your candidates, force them to admit the truth, SPOIL PARTY GAMES and then INDEPENDENT candidates will stand some chance.

GOOD PEOPLE DOING NOTHING (#86)

Don't forget the words of that fine speech that Jack Kennedy HAD WRITTEN FOR HIM - and that he read so well. "Ask not . . . ASK ONLY WHAT YOU CAN DO. . ."

I refer you to the reply I gave earlier (#87).
But remember: if you ever rise to a position of power USE YOUR OWN WORDS or you will become like them.

I could not think of anything else to add, other than the no-fly zone imposed over the south east of england as gordon has invited his mates to some meeting (it's at the local brewery I believe).
Mike

Lying politicians infuriate me. I spend a lot of time infuriated. Add to this my anger at local poiticians who do the job for the outrageous fees they are paid and the other perquisites of the "job", while pretending it is only for the public good. I spend a lot of time angry.

Every time I lift a newspaper or type news.bbc.co.uk into my browser, I end up grinding my teeth in frustration and fury. I am basically a seething ball of rage.

* A banking MD basically contributes to wrecking my country and is rewarded with a pension that earns double per day, what I earn in a month!
* Prisioners live in 5 star jails and have seem to have more rights than I do.
* I have to work 45 hours per week & commute two hours per day to a soul destroying job, just to pay ludicrous taxes so the work shy can stay at home.
* I have to tolerate my home flat being vandalised and my wife verbally abused, because to react to these delinquents would result in my arrest, or a severe beating from them.
* I laugh in barely supressed bemused rage as people sprint from their disabled badge holding car to beat me to the pay machine.

Where can I direct this rage? I share it with my friends and family only to find they share similar anger, yet our frustration mounts as we realise there's nothing we can do.

So why should I feel anger at people who claim benefits, berate my wife, vandalise my home, evade, cheat and lie their way through life? It's not their fault... they're only taking advantage of a system that designed to allow that type of behaviour.

I can't change the attitude of millions of people, but I CAN change my government. I have a vote (just like prisioners do now), and I'll cast my only stone in the next election.

Things that make me angry: Bad manners, rudeness, Chavs! Bad, arrogant and inconsiderate drivers, the legal and criminal prosecution systems, MPs who think they are above the law, soap operas, animal cruelty, Microsoft Word, overpaid footballers, "celebrities", bankers, the paparazzi, the tabloid press, the Highways Agency when they close an entire road for hours on end, Chavs!, publicists, cheats, liars, terrorists, lazy people.....there are so many more but I have now wound myself up. Solution - go do some exercise and have a long shower because no matter how much whinging we do nothing will change because all of the above (apart from the chavs) are in charge.

To thread 88,

You make a good point and to an extent i agree. However, i shall quote an African proverb (though i distance myself from the chap who recently quoted it)

"If you want to go quickly, go alone. If you want to go far, go together"

Throughout history individuals have achieved great things, but imagine a world where we all work together as one, what possibilities would lay before us?

Hi all & Paxo

What is happening...Paxman gone soft or what?
I`m so angry...get a grip man!

AND...why are all the published political statistics proven to be false or at the very least misleading?
I`m so angry I could...!!

I am so angry that democracy is not part of the British way of life anymore. On Question Time on thursday evenings, a lot of talk is given over to the BNP but alas no BNP representative there to answer in person. As a British voter i want to see all parties represented on such shows. Otherwise how can i make an informed judgementon where i will place my vote. If the other parties are so frightened of said party then their manifestos are not strong enough.

The treachery, lies, deceit and illegal wars of nulab!

ANGER MANAGEMENT

What makes me angry is that I asked Newsnight to cover this (watch the video at least) when the producers first came_out_of_the_closet in February 2007, and yet despite many repeated requests here since, when NN was asking for suggestions, they still haven't, and they still keep peddling Lysenkoism and asking people who don't know what they are talking about What Is To Be Done?

Why?

Is Newsnight just for subversive, anarchistic fun? Or is the 'Credit Crunch' another expensive, psychopathic Orwellian scam like 'Bird Flu', 'Anthropogenic Global Warming' and 'The War On Terror'?

What makes me angry is the puritanical way that a section of the UK reacts to any situation in such dramatic terms.
I can't believe the childish, holier than thou tirades that seem to serve the lack of intellect required join in a discussion.
Respect for others opinions or reasonable discussion seems to be a thing of the past and I despair for the future of our country as a result.
In future maybe we should just let all our decisions be made by the Daily Mail or similar - even the BBC have clocked on to this puritanical streak as Nick Robinson or Jeremy Vine both demonstrate adaquately. They come on, I switch over or off as they have nothing of consequence to say, but if I was a puritan, I'd be taking to the streets complaining about them and trying to oust them from the BBC.
We have lost the plot in the UK.

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Thigs that make me angry:

- Criminals suing police for compensation
- Yobs getting police protection
- Poor grammar on BBC news e.g. AN Historic.., AN Horrific.... etc.
- Eco babble and the sheep mentality that makes people follow this crazy stuff.
- Virtual TV (Big Bro etc)
- Brown mania (Gordon)
- Celeb mania by the BBC. e.g. Jade somebody getting cancer & dying. Who cares?
- Unruly children and the namby pamby parenting that makes this possible.