Friday 19 December 2008

Dear fellow-bloggers,

In light of many of your recent comments, you may be interested to know that AOL has, for the last three days, filtered out my Newsnight email and placed it firmly in the Spam box.

The fall of the pound is directly related to the fall in interest rates, no wonder it keeps sinking when the BoE is talking about further cuts. A weak currency will please the Corporate Nazi stock market parasites as it will mean a higher FTSE ( shares are a virtual foreign currency based on the dollar ). If interest rates fall to zero the stock market parasites can borrow their heads off and create another share price and commodity bubble. The population will pay pay through the nose for it with increased imported inflation. Its back to the university motto that " its OK to steal 10 thousand quid in an armed robbery because its only a farthing on all the policies ".

The Corporate Nazi ideology is alive and well, now many big companies are demanding that we bail them out with taxpayers money like the Banks. The only true solution is to totally nationalize all the banks, let them lend the money and then take an increasing public stake in any company which fails to repay.

At least the right's of the people won the Manchester Congestion Charge vote, 79% NO, 21% YES. Celebrity Corporate Nazi alleged transport expert university boffins are still pushing for road pricing despite the fact that the electorate has comprehensively rejected it. A classic Corporate Nazi scenario occurred on Sark where the Barclay Brothers withdrew their investment after failing to get their puppet candidates elected in Sark's first democratic election.

today's highly intelligent debate about oil price.

gordon thinks its due to supply and some other geezer due to tax. neither accounts for a 100 dollar drop. speculation then enforced redemptions does.


more disturbing was 5 live drive who had someone they called an oil expert who went on to back Gordon view that it is due to supply. . I nearly fell off my chair to hear the british public being told such a distorted picture of what is going on and then being unchallenged.

so what is going on.

1.financial oligarchy is presented as liberal democracy.

2.The govt adopt a model where the highest idea of the mind is self interest resulting in deregulation and a bonus culture architecture that promoted target achieving not what was sustainable.
see pt 3 The Trap [ytube]

3. The govt protects tax havens [rule free havens] from which oligarchy can launch destabilising bets with unsecured loans.

4. when those bets went wrong in the mortgage backed securities the funds piled into commodities to try to get the money back. This caused the commodity bubble that resulted in demand destruction [and uk energy company profiteering!].

5. When those loans were called in by the banks funds had enforced selling of commodities crashing the price.

The mistakes of the UK govt

1. No or ineffective regulation.
2. Using Debt to try to fuel spending.
3. Believing what the energy companies tell them about energy prices.
4.Blocking wealth creation including a feed in tariff.

the currency reflects the above.

what should be done

create an economic war council

agree with obama to close the pirate bases of the uk tax free havens that can launch financial war upon not only the uk but the world.

focus on wealth creation industries with growth potential such as a feed in tariff.

regulation of the energy companies. A recent study in Texas showed where ever energy has been privatised prices have gone up.

use the housing crash as a means to restock social housing. Houses at enforced auctions can go for as little as 20 grand.

give up game theory model of man that means there is no such thing as the good and so no such thing as society.replacing common good and duty with targets that are then gamed to produce fictions.

Surely, of any time, now is exactly the right one for Britain to join the EMU?

With virtually Euro- Sterling parity it would make it relatively painless, and would also surely be a boost to business who would be more encouraged to invest.

Whether one agrees that we should join or not, is this not a fair assessment?

NickThornsby (#4) "Surely, of any time, now is exactly the right one for Britain to join the EMU?"

Given that Lisbon's been ratified, has this parity (and much economic turmoil along the way) been cleverly engineered? Has there been more to this 'economic turmoil' than meets the eye?

#4 NickT

"Surely, of any time, now is exactly the right one for Britain to join the EMU?"

If we do not have the option of allowing the currency to depreciate we lose the shock absorbing effect of that. If there are shocks, such as a decline in exports or excessive UK inflation, unless the shock is absorbed by a depreciation of sterling it will be transmitted to employment. A common currency would be like driving with rigid shock absorbers, miserable if the road gets bumpy. Right now a lower value of sterling should boost exports. (We hear people say it hasn't happened. It is a slow process. And with a world recession the depreciation of sterling may simply slow the decline in exports, rather than result in an absolute increase. It should still show up in net exports, assuming imports decline as we get poorer).


Why is near parity relevant? Parity doesn't mean much, except in arithmetic way. I guess we might get away without reprinting price lists.



Over the long haul, whatever rate we entered at different national rates of inflation would TEND to adjust the real exchange rate (of traded goods and services) to one to one.


But then, I'm an old dyed in the wool Euro sceptic.

#5 JJ

"Has there been more to this 'economic turmoil' than meets the eye?"

I think there might be.

If we look at the link you have posted before we find Rubin, a financier, is also an Illuminati.

https://www.henrymakow.com/we_all_are_victims_of_a_giant.html

Now we learn from David Icke that the Illiminati are Reptilian Humanoids:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

If David Icke says it it must be true. Also included as RH are George Bush and Boxcar Willie. Now one of the features of these RH/Illuminati is their ability to "Shape Shift". Now, when was the last time you saw Boxcar Willie? Exactly! Now we see what he has been up to. He has shape shifted into a Hedge Fund manager and engineered the collapse of the world economy. I and I just thought he was a rubbish country singer!

13thMan (#6) "Why is near parity relevant? Parity doesn't mean much, except in arithmetic way."

On the contrary, it's psychological (like most of politics), not rational.

Oh! No!

I've just found that Henry Makow's grandparents were "victims of the holocaust"

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Makow

Now, I have heard somewhere recently on this blog the holocaust may not have happened. If that is so, they could not have been victims. Now we know from David Icke that George Bush is a Reptilian Humanoid.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

Now, have you ever seen Henry Mankow and George Bush together, close up? No, I thought not. That is it. They are the same Reptilian Humanoid, shape shifting to two different human forms. Mankow is really Bush in a Trojan Horse guise. That is why he disses Obama and Clinton.

Has George ever admitted that? Of course not. Could imagine him trying to say "I am a shape shifter"?

Oh! The power of the web.

DEMOCRACY, EQUALITIES/DIVERSITY, HYPOCRISY AND HEGEMONY

13thMan (#9) Bush disses Obama and Clinton? Is that because Quigley was admired by Clinton (for at least one thing he wrote)?

One thing we can be certain of: none of them are 'transparent' - whilst they may not shape-shift (the ADL thinks Icke may be boxing clever there), they're certainly dab hands at spinning (see Cultural Marxism).

It's probably a gene-barrier/brain-gender thing, and so probably genetic. They've been packing the Lords you know.

#10

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"13thMan (#9) Bush disses Obama and Clinton?"

As well as Mankow? Perhaps because they are the same lizard.
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"(the ADL thinks Icke may be boxing clever there)"

This is waht I found at their sire:

"David Icke was once the most ridiculed man in Britain after declaring on The Terry Wogan Show that he was the Son of God. But he has now resurrected his career and is an internationally successful conspiracy investigator who lectures to packed houses world-wide. His latest theory is that the ruling elite are genetically descended from a race of 12-foot blood-drinking, shape-shifting lizards. But when Icke says lizards does he just actually mean lizards, as he steadfastly maintains? Or does he, as a powerful coalition of prominent Jewish groups claim, mean Jews?"

Ref: https://www.mininova.org/tor/162559

Does "12-foot blood-sucking. shape-shifting Jews" sound more plausible?

Note: Icke and Mankow and (it seems) JJ are fellow travelers.

This is a good read:

https://www.publiceye.org/Icke/IckeBackgrounder.htm

SHAPE SHIFTING (BUT NOT AS WE KNOW IT)

13thMan (#11) I don't subscribe to the 12 foot high lizard theory. On the contrary, I suspect the stereotype came about as a consequence of the much higher frequency of the autosomal recessive polymorphism (1/3 carry one polymorphism, 1/27 two) found on chromosome 6p21 which results in a subtle shift in sex-steroid/stress hormone chemistry and possibly a small, but significant, shift in brain-gender (and thus behaviour) which for each sex atypically shifts verbal-spatial balance (which I suspect is behind the solipsism/narcissism). Amongst other things, it makes affected males shorter than average.

This probably came about because of endogamy, a gene barrier. One of the other characteristics, is an unusual stress response. It has a cost, but it also has some advantages.

13thMan (#9) "Now, I have heard somewhere recently on this blog the holocaust may not have happened. If that is so, they could not have been victims."

There's certainly a lot of confusion over this matter, and it tends to get quite political.

There's 'losing grandparents', and 'losing grandparents', and some people tend to fill in the gaps/uncertainty where others don't. It's probably an intensional, stress related thing, and despite politically correct noises to the contrary, there are group differences in behaviour.

THE PRINCIPLE OF CHARITY

13thMan (#11) "...does he, as a powerful coalition of prominent Jewish groups.." This would seem to suggest that there IS a powerful coalition of prominent Jewish groups? Is it just that they don't shape shift as Icke thinks? Are AIPAC and the ADL etc powerful but reluctant to actually do anything with that power e.g. shape USA foreign (and domestic) policy in their own group interest as has been said by many? Presumably such powerful, but quiet and restrained groups wouldn't waste their time on Obama's election campaign either (they'd probably be doing powerfull things with money instead?)

The stuff and nonsense that fools think and post on the web eh?

power shift

if political science is finding out where the power is and if money = power then the political scientist should look for where the money is accumulating and where it is distributing as signs for where power is also accumulating and where it is distributing?

does the uk have an accumulation strategy or a distribution strategy? Consumerism is a distribution strategy which means consumerism will create a trend where money and power leaches away.

so maintaining uk wealth and thus power means adopting an accumulation strategy such as looking for industry with growth potential - e.g a feed in tariff, entertainment, innovation

policies that prop up consumerism like taking on debt to finance tax giveaways is a strategy to continue the trend in the uk's decline.

this model of accumulation and distribution can be used to spot trends in many areas from working out who will take over the high st to which organised crime gangs are getting stronger/weaker.

using that model one could have identified and planned for some banks, woolworths, the car makers, etc who had a distribution trend for some time to go out of business and put in place other industries with growth potential.

using that model one can predict power shifts and so adjust foreign policy and the makeup of international institutions.

by not using this model as a basis for policy either the Govt is unaware of it or think they have a better model they refuse to articulate to anyone?

For some reason the govt thinks supporting sterling is about setting a price rather than adopting an accumulation strategy which will naturally support stirling. Stirling is showing everyone the Uk has a distribution basket of policies.

in the light of this accumulation/distribution model the uk, with current govt policies, looks locked into a downtrend. So why should not everyone bet against sterling? It's the rational thing to do.

One buys accumulation and sells distribution.

THE TANGLED WEB OF 'AMERICAN' ACTIVISM/MORPHISM

The thing to note here is that many USA communists were Jewish Trotskyites/anarcho-capitalists, not Stalinists (especially after the events in the USSR/Eastern Europe in the 1950s - see 'The Venona Secrets' on rats and polecats), and that the former have much in common with internationalist free-marketeers (neoconservatives), who are naturally anti-statist.

Note, from the leading link, with respect to allegedly ex-Marxist Horowitz, "his parents were long-standing members of the Communist Party. While still identifying as a Marxist, Horowitz, like many other left wing figures of his generation, sought to distance himself from the Soviet Union. In the 1960s he was employed as a political aide to Bertrand Russell. At this time, Horowitz was a close friend and associate of Marxist historian Isaac Deutscher."

This type of ex-Marxism is Trotskyism, i.e. Workers Democracy (the sort of democracy championed by New Left Labour, not Democratic Centralism as in the PRC or in principle at least, Old Labour UK.

It's worth looking carefully into the relationships between the PRA, the ACLU, the SPLC and the ADL, bearing in mind that anti-statism coverers any form of totalitarianism or restriction of Human Rights, which might include antipathy towards something as benign as Old Labour's Webbian, welfare statism and the UK's Civil Service, which we have seen systematically dismantled over the past three decades in favour of 'freedom'. Not everyone sees this as having been a good thing, any more than it was good for Russia.

#12

Oy gevalt!

what's the big deal about the Euro? We are not the boss of Europe, we fight unpopular wars where no one cares except ourselves and the Yanks with our petty bourgeiose colonial mentality, repeat we are not the strong macho guys we thought we were. We cannot supply our troops with body armour, we cannot give them the right transport, we are cutting and running in Iraq and leaving our fellow colonialists with the mess to follow and we all indignant about losing the pound? We should be glad that we are welcome to join the Euro....because we have well and truly stuffed sterling!

13thMan (#17) Apart from the more extreme stress responses (higher anxiety/neuroticism due to disturbance in the HPA and glucocorticoid regulation) this *may* account for the lower interest in sport as there is also defective glycemic control and altered metabolic and hormonal responses. This is extrapolating from the more severe form of 21-OHD deficiency which affect 17-OHP - which is rarer. In #12 I'm referring to the much more common Non-Classic AH. Incidentally, 6p21 is where the Human MHC is too, which is possibly quite important in assortive mating.

What a fascinating discussion about lizards and socialists. I am reminded of many largely alcohol-infused naive ramblings of left wing intellectuals of the 1980s.

I wonder if that very framework for understanding modern society is in fact the root problem. If that was not the case, mulitculturalism would not have been compelled to rewrite science and history, surely.

I caught a talk by Ian Crane on EMTV about the Anunaki but was convinced only that a global elite does exist and not that it is extraterrestrial.

Until the 18th-19th century the only occupation that was tolerated for jewish people was usury. To this day my christian relatives will complain about money being dirty. So the west was built by a happy alliance of jewish finance and christian administration.

But, to say that islamic finance is a philosophically different system from the west is like saying one can only enjoy sex in one position.

It's the old curry menu syndrome. Westerners attribute all sorts of magical properties to traditional cultures because the west moved out of traditionalism into modernism - away from family vows and towards community responsibility, away from revenge and towards justice, away from nepatism and towards public standards, away from belief and towards proof, etc. The menu for chinese and indian restaurants look exciting but are no different in structure than the menu of a sandwich bar/cafe.

So, the point I am making is that there were as many checks on the financial system under judaeochristian capitalism as there are under islamic banking. The only difference being is that the west did not lay down a lexicon of the checks. So, when the finance system was opened up to non-western cultures nobody respected the unlabelled checks that had previously been a matter of etiquette.

Nevertheless, as I'm sure I have blogged in the past, the irony of the 21st cetury is that the entire world is now a theatre for sibling rivalry - and the cause of the row is which position it is best to have sex in, so to speak!

ANOTHER POSITION

doctormisswest (#20) "Until the 18th-19th century the only occupation that was tolerated for jewish people was usury"

That must have been truly awfiul for them. To be forced by gentiles to make a living out of exploiting others was truly an infringement of their human rights. They must have despised gentiles for such anti-semitism and having forced them into such wealth. No wonder they became so salient in the equalities and civil rights movements.

I take it that you've noted that New York City appears to have been in the news a lot over suspected transgressions of 'unlabelled checks', especially since the repeal of Glass-Steagall. It hasn't been Berlin, Rome, Madrid, Tehran in the news has it?

Have you looked into why that may be? It's just a demographic/statistical thing I suspect (#5), but I guess the persecution could be greater in NYC?

All those people who were not allowed to do other sorts of work....thanks for reminding us of the oppression, it's clearly still going on today and it ought to be stamped out, not encouraged, I quite agree.

PS. Any views on the shape-shifting polymorphism at C6p21?

THAT'S THE SPIRIT

doctormisswest (#20) Naivety? I think it's awful what some people are forced into doing in order to protect themselves from irrational prejudice and persecution.

HUMAN RIGHTS OR HUMAN EXPLOITATION?

As we encourage others to be more tolerant, offending behaviour, sub-criminal indiscipline and immorality continues to increase.

As we encourage women to advance themselves, be more independent, go out to work and spend rather than save and raise families, businesses profit which is of course good for the economy, but given the low TFR and differential fertility, how can this be good for anything else?

People or profit?

The figures speak for themselves. Leaving aside the rhetoric, which do you think any of the main parties put first? As I see it, people keep voting for their self-destruction because they're rewarded for living for the moment and punished for planning ahead. We're rewarded for consuming like impulsive children.

Dysgenesis - that's the real 'downturn'.

#20 "The menu for chinese and indian restaurants look exciting but are no different in structure than the menu of a sandwich bar/cafe."


But as with other things, variety is the spice of life. And the most interesting variety is the variety of the spices.

I wonder whether Jesus Christ was short and sports-averse? I think the narcissism is pretty self evident, he's everywhere this time of year. Jews,huh?

Happy Hanukkah

IT HAS ITS ADVANTAGES I GUESS

Fliegel (#25) It takes all sorts but some are better at spinning than others. I suspect, at root, this is a 'female' tilted brain-gender thing.

Incidentally, where is the British-Chinese power list? They comprise the same prioportion of the population as Jews (0.5%) do, and they come top in our school SATS league tables. Most of us seem to like them too so why no press coverage given all this talk of equalities? Furthermore, why don't they comprise nearly 10% of the House of Lords like Jews do?

Are the latter specially chosen?

PLUS CA CHANGE...

Fliegel (#26) As to JC, I recall something about 'vipers' brood' which got him and hi mate John into trouble over his 'hate speech'.

Surely there should be a law to stop people telling the truth these days?

EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION

Just in case it hasn't all sunk in.

(Don't neglect the female + differential FTR issue either).

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Moving over to the North-East, it seems that prosecuton of BTL exploitation can take years, but when one hears of 'repossessions' and people losing 'their homes', how often does this refer to small-business people losing their property portfolios rather than their main home? When banks are urged to lend to small businesses, how many of those businesses are financially viable rather than spun to appear so? Thee's been so much spin over the years that even the Bank of England doesn't appear to know what's really going on.

Didn't 'light-touch' Greenspan try that line not too long ago?

BIRTH DEARTH AND IMMIGRATION

So, given the low indigenous birth rate in the UK and rest of Europe) why was there ever a property BUILDING boom?

One can see why an unprecedented level of immigration has been encouraged as it justifies property building with a boom in loan/debt laden students feeding a Buy-To-Let economy. More cynically, was this all just a way of sustaining if not increasing the size of the debt-consumer base?

At what longer term cost has this, and the above Education x 3, been? Do those driven by (and driving) these bubble-based boom and bust cycles really care?

I suspect not. They just want cash-cows.

JJ # 28

Has it ever occurred to you that the Corporate Nazi's consider education, education, education as to reflect brainwashing, brainwashing, brainwashing. I must admit that I feel sorry for today's pre-school children subjected to trash alleged children's television guaranteed to send any sensible adult out of the room in utter boredom. If you consider the brain to be a computer your hard drive only has a limited space to absorb information, fill it with garbage at a young age and there is no room left for the more useful aspects of education. Furthermore, many children's programmes fail to develop the ability to concentrate for increasing periods, in computer terms severely restricting RAM. Perhaps its no wonder that when children go to school at five teachers have real problems trying to run educational programmes designed for the latest piece of software kit when they are dealing with a virtual ancient 286. That is not to say that early politically correct nursery or pre-school clubs are a good thing, they should definitely not become compulsory. Today's kids are a bit like Sir Henry at Rawlinson End, they don't know what they want but they want it now, usually any consumer products which have been advertised to them via TV.

Even if mothers are prepared to take an active interest in the education in early life Purnell is on the brink of forcing mothers of over one's to take courses to look for work, then at seven possibly go out to work full time. Perhaps the brighter young working class women will decide that even if they could manage on 60 quid in the hand benefits every week and still give their kids a good educational start in life, there is no point having kids if you are going to have to hand them over to a complete stranger. Current ideology dangles the carrot of the ten bob fat cat consumer dream, the Corporate Nazi's don't want anyone not mesmerised into believing that life can be free and easy on unlimited credit breeding. As for the alleged brightest young women who go to university, get a career and fail to breed in their twenties, private medicine can sell them fertility treatment when they realize they wanted kids all along in their late 30's ?

US power on the wane?
The U.S. power around has been on the wane for the past 8 years, pretty much...It may have a chance of getting it back....

SUPPLY AND DEMAND

brossen99 (#31) "If you consider the brain to be a computer your hard drive only has a limited space to absorb information, fill it with garbage at a young age and there is no room left for the more useful aspects of education"

That notion, although widely believed, is not one which I believe fits the evidence. People/kids are not buckets which are filled up, rather, they are like variable power searchlights driven by what they inherit. The problem that we face today is that we've been biologically reproducing too many with weak beams, and the market's busy supplying what they want. Sadly it's a matter of supply and demand. To mitigate this something quite radical must change to the birth rate, AND to differential fertility.

JJ #33

Breeding is not the whole story, the environment in which kids are brought up can either brighten the " searchlight " you speak of, or in extreme cases dim it. Too early education and " conditioning " could stifle development by being rebuked for asking searching questions of the alleged educator. I do know a bit about breeding, I once raced pigeons and bred almost all my own stock, a lot depended on how good the parents were, I even kept some poor racers just as parents to swap eggs under. I got to a stage where I just let the birds pair up on their own ( didn't have any bad pigeons ). It was always a quest to find a new design better than previous, I hardly ever spent any money on expensive pedigree stock birds. Despite that I was almost consistently in the top 20 of the local Fed and the man who got them when I packed up wins regularly with them to this day, he does no formal pairing either these days. At the end of the day the racing sorted out the gene pool, it was often the case that you would loose the most apparently promising young birds. The key lesson was how to dodge the hawks, not get freaked out after a hawk attack and learn not to fly low into wires.

Kids are far too often wrapped up in cotton wool these days and it must affect their desire to explore the world. I got up to all sorts as a kid, many of which would not be allowed these days, essential danger has been removed from kids lives. It is interesting to note that almost all the scenes of recent fatal Knife Crime featured traffic calming or a 20 Mph speed limit. The installation of traffic calming is probably the key step towards a residential area becoming totally run down and lawless. Take danger out of people's life ( particularly teenagers ) and they may replace it with something far worse.

CHILD PROTECTION: (WHY THE WORDS MATTER)

brossen99 (#34) Most of what you say was nicely put. Whilst much of the (operant) behaviour work I draw upon is, you might like to note, is based on work using pigeons (and rats). To many it will come as a major, counter-intuitive surprise to hear that we have no good evidence at all for the positive side of what you say when you write:

"Breeding is not the whole story, the environment in which kids are brought up can either brighten the " searchlight " you speak of, or in extreme cases dim it."

That is, we can not brighten the beams at all (see Arthur Jensen on this and raising scholastic achievement, this goes back to at least the late 1960s and yet we still hear nonsense to the contrary from government and particularly snake-oil 'edicationalists' eager to see their products or worse still, ignorant ideologues peddling rosy fantasies with no evdiene to back them up). It IS genetic.

However, what we can do is damage what's there through physical abuse to the system and neglect, and that happens quite a lot sadly. It will continue across the board until people start listening rather than dreaming and writing creative fiction to make THEMSELVES look socially desirable.

CREATIVE WRITING VS SCIENCE

This is not directed at anyone in particular, but browsing through some of these should give anyone who's remotely interested in the science some idea as to why it's infuriating to read vapid creative fiction written by arrogant posters who clearly haven't a clue what they're talking about when it comes to behaviour and what controls it. As a consequence, most people who do know what's really the case (to the best of human knowledge anyway), usually through decades of emprical, practical work in the control of behaviour (in applied fields often for the protection of others) usually don't say very much in forums like these as they find the ignorance which is thrown back at them when they do both highly offensive and incorrigible.

What happened when 50% started going to university was in fact a devaluation of education, which is inevitable, given that education is really the selection and reinforcement of genetically driven (frequencies of) behaviours.

"THE LAST KICKS OF A DYING HORSE"

We should not forget what ETS said in Feb 2007, what others warned of long before that based on USA demographic and psychometric trends (engineered by whom?), or, significantly, which country Zimbabwe models itself (however unsuccessfully) upon politically, and which is successfully protecting itself against the same fate whilst also being a substantial creditor of the USA.

"Diplomatic Editor Mark Urban revisits some of the key moments of 2008 - some of which reinforce the idea that America's position as a superpower is on the wane and the East is on the rise."

I'd say that 'diplomatic' is the key word. I mean, either NN is just softening the blow for the British bourgeoisie or the editors don't watch other current affairs programmes.

There was a programme not so long ago which went into some detail about how the US got into and out of debt since the stock exchange began and the severity of the debt Bush got into, and how much of that debt is held by China. Then the Ascent of Money series culminated with a fascinating expose of Chimerica - underlining the reversal of the flow of money from East to West and the security of China's savings.

Add to that, the UK is bailing out an Indian company who cite 'problems on the domestic market' as the reason why they can't inject funds into the British based subsidiary - 9 months after they bought it. You don't think the Indian company had already figured out that the British government would have to step in to save British jobs?

Add to that Putin and his Gas This-isn't-a-cartel-Cartel.

Add to that Sharia finance in the UK.

Add to that The Policy International Thinktank (can't remember the name, Fabian or Labour connections I think) announcing Mandehlson debating the Role of 'the west' in a Multi Polar World.

Add to that, corporate philospophy that dehumanises workers and has caused UK immigration policies to outstrip 'socio-economic' carrying capacity - as opposed to corporate carrying capacity, which is not the same thing.

Add to that the denationalisation of the population through multiculturalism and the loss of English identity - and when I say that I am talking about a multiracial group with English as first language.

Add to that the masochistic dismantling of protestant ideology by Rowan Williams - or is there something in it for him?

And what have you got?

Unless the US and UK come up with some very clever tricks, the west as a civilisation is now most certainly in the crusher.

What would be more interesting on NN would be some educated projections of what the world will look like when the resources are controlled by Russian communism, Arab islamic tribalism, and Chinese communism.

My guess is that both nationalism and individualism will be submerged for a few more millenia under dogma.

quote - Diplomatic Editor Mark Urban revisits some of the key moments of 2008 - some of which reinforce the idea that America's position as a superpower is on the wane and the East is on the rise. - unquote

I'd say that 'diplomatic' is the key word. I mean, either NN is just softening the blow for the British bourgeoisie or the editors don't watch other current affairs programmes.

There was a programme not so long ago which went into some detail about how the US got into and out of debt since the stock exchange began and the severity of the debt Bush got into, and how much of that debt is held by China. Then the Ascent of Money series culminated with a fascinating expose of Chimerica - underlining the reversal of the flow of money from East to West and the security of China's savings.

Add to that, the UK is bailing out an Indian company who cite 'problems on the domestic market' as the reason why they can't inject funds into the British based subsidiary - 9 months after they bought it. You don't think the Indian company had already figured out that the British government would have to step in to save British jobs?

Add to that Putin and his Gas This-isn't-a-cartel-Cartel.

Add to that Sharia finance in the UK.

Add to that The Policy International Thinktank (can't remember the name, Fabian or Labour connections I think) announcing Mandehlson debating the Role of 'the west' in a Multi Polar World.

Add to that, corporate philospophy that dehumanises workers and has caused UK immigration policies to outstrip 'socio-economic' carrying capacity - as opposed to corporate carrying capacity, which is not the same thing.

Add to that the denationalisation of the population through multiculturalism and the loss of English identity - and when I say that I am talking about a multiracial group with English as first language.

Add to that the masochistic dismantling of protestant ideology by Rowan Williams - or is there something in it for him?

And what have you got?

Unless the US and UK come up with some very clever tricks, the west as a civilisation is now most certainly in the crusher.

What would be more interesting on NN would be some educated projections of what the world will look like when the resources are controlled by Russian communism, Arab islamic tribalism, and Chinese communism.

My guess is that both nationalism and individualism will be submerged for a few more millenia under dogma.

JJ

You are right that education has been devalued. I never would have thought that I would become an advocate of classical education but I am now.

But equally there are many people who quite intuitively understand some of the things that 'scientists' feel that they have to prove in order to accept them as reality.

the latest on the chicago school of economists and their efficient market theories so beloved by The Govt even though they have proven to cause chaos wherever theya re used. so why do they still use them as the basis for policy? habit? or are the the govt believers?

article called

Friedman Would Be Roiled as Chicago Disciples Rue Repudiation

on bloomberg.

the blog won't let me link.

doctormisswest (#40) "there are many people who quite intuitively understand some of the things that 'scientists' feel that they have to prove in order to accept them as reality."

The problem is that there are many people who intuitively understand all sorts of things which have no rational basis whatsover (e.g. Brain-Gym, Angel-Reading, SEAL, Aiming High, most psychotherapies) i.e for which there is no empirical evidence for efficiacy. How do such people tell which of their beliefs are true and which are false?

How can they 'intuitively' know that they are rational?

bookhimdano (#41) "the blog won't let me link"

If the URL has an ampersand in it (they often have more than one), you have to supplement the ampersand alone with 'amp;' i.e 'ampersandampsemicolon' (no quotes).

= The problem is that there are many people who intuitively understand all sorts of things which have no rational basis whatsover =

I think the problem is more the relationship between the world of science and lay people

I think science fell into disrepute because it became over intellectualised and under intuitive - most scientific breakthroughs have been led by intuition, but a propensity to eccentricism and unpredictability has been replaced by guarded politics and reckless number crunching

If science gets the balance right - between recognising what can only be known through evidence and what can be known through interpretation then fewer people would hang on to irrational beliefs

But as long as academia makes pronouncements of absolute banality - as in 'tell us something we didn't already know' - lay people will feel able to dismiss more vital scientific information

doctormisswest (#44) "I think science fell into disrepute because it became over intellectualised and under intuitive"

No. The hard sciences are still largely male domains, and as we've deluged universitties with far more people, and especially more verbally adept people (i.e. females and feminised males), it was inevitable that the harder sciences and technologies would become relatively marginalised. A lot of the hard work in the harder sciences has also been made easier through computerisation/automation/programming and much more user-friendly interfaces made possible by dramatic falls in costs.

I'd question your use of the term 'feminised'. Whilst it may be true that language ability has up till now been accentuated in women, this does not lead to the automatic conclusion that language ability in men is a form of feminisation. In fact, language is the new locus of evolution. Social and memetic evolution have taken over where physical and genetic evolution left off. Thus the shift in language ability in men is entirely in accordance with a shift in evolutionary locus. The top jobs go to those who are adept at codified language, not those who are necessarily the most intelligent.

doctormisswest (#46) At every Key Stage (SATs) females (as a group) do better in English than males and in the language tests in PISA (OECD) females do better than males internationally. We have known for decades that females excel in verbal fluency and we now know that this is a genetically driven brain difference. Some males are more feminised than others biologically and vice versa for females. Some ethnic groups are more sexually dimorphic than others, and thus, as school curricula have been progressively more feminised (by the QCA/NAA) in the alleged interest of 'equality' some ethnic groups have been advantaged whilst others have been disadvantaged. We now live in a very feminised societies in liberal-democracies, sadly, this goes with below replacement level TFRs. Any other species which developed behaviours which had such a consequence would be described as 'biologically unfit'.

I suggest you look into which ethnic group is biologically more feminised and which is more endrogenised.

oops ...androgenised.

doctormisswest (#46) Then as yourself to whose (economic) advantage all of this equalties/liberation has really been....

I don't dispute your data - it's pretty much all in the 2001 census, from which can be projected future population composition.

The conclusions you draw from the data are not explicit. You refute what others say but you only hint at your own theory.

THE LONGER=TERM PERSPECTIVE

doctormisswest (#50) If you look back in the current archived posts, (and to those of my friend Adrienne) you'll see it's all been clearly explicated. Furtyjermore, it's not theory sadly, just description.

The important additional point to focus on is how European low TFRs (exacerbated by high levels of female education and employment) are driving up differential fertility which will drive dysgenesis and higher crime rates. Examined beyond immediate short term hedonism, liberal-democracy is not all that it appears!

So, your theory is that liberal democracy equates to hedonism and female emancipation will cause abnormal gonad development.

That's propaganda.

doctormisswest (#52) "will cause abnormal gonad development."

No, that's not what I have said at all. You're presumably picking up on what I have hypothesised regarding NCAH (which doesn't affect genitals the way that untreated CAH does anyway, and it affects adrenal sex-steroids not goands). NCAH is just more prevalent in one group than others, the second highest is amongst Hispanics (in NYC anyway). All of that has more to do with VERY subtle changes in brain-gender tilt and behaviour, and that was just an effort to make sense of statistically unrepresentative higher prevalences of some behaviours in some groups.

No, my main point about liberal-democracy is that wherever it exists it appears to bring about below replacement level TFRs (i.e. biological unfitness) as well as differential fertility (the latter through female emancipation and equalities legislation, all of which prima facie appears to be a good thing until one looks more closely at the longer term consequences - it's why we have high immigration in Europe). It doesn't matter whether any of us like or dislike this (most of us would like to have aour cake and eat it here), what matters is wherther it is true. We have a habit of coming up with all sorts of daft rationalisations to justify our behaviours even when they are self-destructive. I think natural selection has selected female phenotypes (shorter stature, less strength, different sub-factors of intelligence etc) to make them not equal to males in very important ways, as equality leads to precisely this sort of unfit competition/behaviour. Groups with high TFRs like Islam and Orthodox Judaism have always ha very strict rules about sex-roles as a consequence, and if we continue as we are, those in the liberal-democracies will just continue to head towards extinction.

If you look up democraphic trends for European and East Asian liberal-democracies, you'll see what I'm saying is sadly true.

doctormisswest (#52) "will cause abnormal gonad development."

(Not sure what was wrong with the first submission, but I have corrected a few typos - some of this is basic endocrinology the rest conventional demography).

No, you've fabricated that. It's not what I have said at all. You're presumably picking up on what I've hypothesised regarding NCAH (which doesn't affect genitals the way that untreated CAH does anyway, it affects adrenal sex-steroids not gonads, although it can result in PCOS). NCAH (the most common autosomal recessive disorder known to mankind) and is just a little more prevalent in one group than others, the second highest being amongst Hispanics (in NYC anyway). All of that has more to do with VERY subtle changes in brain-gender tilt and behaviour, and that was just an effort to make sense of statistically unrepresentative higher prevalences of some behaviours in some groups.

No, my main point about liberal-democracy was that wherever it exists it appears to bring about below replacement level TFRs (i.e. biological unfitness) as well as differential fertility (the latter through female emancipation and equalities legislation, all of which prima facie appears to be a good thing until one looks more closely at the longer term consequences - low TFR is why we have high immigration in Europe). It doesn't matter whether any of us like or dislike this (most of us would like to have our cake and eat it here), what matters is whether it's true. We have a habit of coming up with all sorts of daft rationalisations to justify our behaviours even when they're self-destructive, and I think natural selection has selected female phenotypes (shorter stature, less strength, different sub-factors of intelligence etc) to make females not equal to males in very important ways, as equality leads to precisely this sort of unfit competition/behaviour. Groups with high TFRs (like Islam and Orthodox Judaism) have always had very strict rules about sex-roles, and if we continue as we are, those in the liberal-democracies will just continue to head towards extinction.

If you look up demographic trends for European and East Asian liberal-democracies, you'll see what I'm saying is sadly true.

=You're presumably picking up on what I've hypothesised regarding NCAH =

No, I googled the word dysgenesis


=low TFR is why we have high immigration in Europe=

No. it is not. Since the manufacturing sector collapsed in the 1970s and the unions and their industries were crushed in the 1980s there has been (multiracial) surplus labour. But that labour has been repeatedly demoralised by class and culture prejudice, an education system inadequate for the needs of the new service sector economy, further immigration for humanitarian reasons, further immigration as a result of EU legislation and as Celtic pointed out economic advantage for employers, and the movement of jobs abroad for economic reasons. Resulting in a disengagement with society through a retreat into traditional large patrifocal family tribes centred on religious ritual on one hand, and into new complex single and step parent families centred on profane social rituals on the other.

=natural selection has selected female phenotypes (shorter stature, less strength, different sub-factors of intelligence etc) to make females not equal to males in very important ways, as equality leads to precisely this sort of unfit competition/behaviour=

That's an hypothesis, not scientific fact. Caucasian and African females are larger on average than Asian and Aboriginal males, so who is equal to whom? The structure of DNA was largely the work of a an uncredited woman, not the two credited men, so who was the more intelligent? The greatest epochs of UK history include the reigns of 3 queens. Evolution is not driven solely by natural selection, that it is assumed to be is part of the politics of science. According to Steve Jones, evolution has ended. According to others, evolution has entered a new phase of memetics and intuition. Who can really say that this new phase is not going to enable a society based on low TFR to be sustained? Could you really have predicted evolution before the event? Are you not in danger of measuring the future by the past instead of by future possibilities?

I've just read #34, what a great post and insightful observation about traffic calming! It reminds me of quoting the unseen aspects of policy implementation to students - such as when free school meals were brought in, parents stopped providing an evening meal for their kids, so the policy was slightly defeated. It goes to show that we cannot predict how policies will act out, and how interconnected seemingly disparate behaviours can be.

Back to JJ, it occurred to me, that what your posts amount to are:

a) dismissal of gentiles for having low TFR

b) dismissal of jewish semites for allegedly corrupting the financial system

what are we left with? the group which believes that they and they alone have all the answers, and while we're on the subject - why don't they put down their guns and come to the table? is it genetic?

doctormisswest (#55) "No it is not".

A few immediate responses.

Oh yes it isssssssss. Why are you arguing? This was covered/referenced over a year ago in the immigration threads.

As to height differentials between say Japanese male sand European females, this came about through gene barriers (oceans in this case). have you noted that Japanese tend to marry Japanese and Europeans Europeans? It's referrred to as 'assortive mating'.

As to the rest, you're clearly factually/statistically illinformed. Here are a few links. Especially this one.

Many people have been systematically misled for years on this entire issue. It's worth pondering who might have been doing that, and to what end.

The feminisation of liberal-democracies can only hasten their insidious demise.

doctormisswest (#56) "Back to JJ, it occurred to me, that what your posts amount to are:.."

These are appalling/spurious 'inferences'. Why not stick to the facts which I have written and not go beyond them with creative fictions?

doctormisswest (#56) Here's a benevolent tip: When I post something, it's usually been researched. As such, it pays to look into the background before responding/arguing.

I usually provide explicit references at one point or another.

why is it that now the pound and euro are worth the same, we are still having to pay 1.50 to enter the euro lottery while every other country only pays 1 euro???
is it because we have been treated like muppets by the authorities for decades??

alba40 (#60) "is it because we have been treated like muppets by the authorities for decades??"

Have you not been following the links on dysgenic fertility? Someone recently said that they'd 'had to look up' the term. One wonders why some bother posting at all (i.e why one says something which does not inform others, or at least prompt others to go and inform themsleves further).

But yes, we appear to be ever more insightless 'muppets' (probably the consequence of an old Cold War strategy, if not older).

jadedjean--thanks for proving my point for me.
by the way is it jean or are you a frenchman?(paying 1 euro compared to the 1.50 the muppets here have to!!)
happy new year jean---just get p*shed like THEY want us all to be(keeps us compliant you see!)

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FROM AN INSIGHTLESS MUPPET.

barrie (#63) It's not New Year yet you 'insightless muppet'!!

NEWBURY TWINNED WITH BRIGADOON

PEOPLE/CASH-COWS FOR PROFIT?

He said: "That the annual growth rate of consumer credit is slowing up is a truly double-edged sword. It's good for consumers, in that any reduction or slowing in debt levels must be seen as a positive, but the impact on businesses is very much a negative. People are becoming more cautious by the day, and caution is a word companies, retailers especially, are scared stiff of."

Alan Tomlinson, partner at insolvency practitioners Tomlinsons

"He said: “We need a more ethical capitalism. I don't think the answer to the current crisis is to tear up the market system and go back to 1970s-style socialism, but we do need a more ethical capitalism in which we recognise that business has real responsibilities."

David Cameron

Wha a joker. There is no such thing as 'a more ethical capitalism'! More people need to wake up to the fact that the current mess is a direct consequence of New Labour continuing the (Neo)Conservatives' anarchistic free-market policies instead of 1970s Old Labour policies, which in turn were undermined by proxy anti-statists, i.e Trotskyites. Until this country wakes up the fact that Trotskyites/Neocons/New Labour are just different names for the same deregulationist agenda, nothing will get any better.

It would appear that the latest part of the Corporate Nazi ( de-regulators ) plan to provide a welfare state for the stock market parasites is private insurance to pay for care in old age. People would be expected to save hundreds of pounds every year ( private tax ) of their working lives when only 1 in 10 actually need care in old age. One government minister admitted that it would be a " hard sell ".

MORE ON LA LA LAND NARCISSISM

We could do with a lot less of this celebritism too.

Why shouldn't the pound get pounded? It's not that the economies on the continent are any stronger or better managed than the UK's welfare state, it's just that they've managed to cover up the worst of what has been going on behind the scenes for the longest time. Their turn will come. The US? That remains to be seen. The US is in a unique position...maybe. It can print whatever currency it needs to cover its foreign debts and people will still buy it because of America's political stability. What would happen in France if there were massive layoffs? What would happen in Germany if soaring inflation sparked memories of the days of the Weimar Republic? China's currency won't look so strong when its exports to the EU and UK dry up and it must use its vast reserves to feed its one and a quarter billion people. And Japan is already in a recession after two decades of stagnation, where will its economy go when its exports dry up. Yes, we're all in the same leaky rowboat together. Only right now the UK's end is leaking faster. It would be an advantage to have an independent currency like the pound instead of the Euro....if someone in charge knew what he was doing. They say Gordon Brown is the best we have. Heaven help us all.

Just wondering if and when anything kicks off again?

I mean here. The world, locally and internationally, seems to have been quite... 'busy'.

JunkkMale (#72) "The world, locally and internationally, seems to have been quite... 'busy'."

Anything remotely unexpected?

The international response has been painfully muted/predictable. No prizes for identifying what the 'Israeli' big stick stick is, (not nuclear but economic - how else can such behaviour be excused?).

SCAM

If anyone has any doubt what the anti-discrimination and human rights campaigning has really been about for decades (apart from gainful employment and fundraising for some) look no further than this and the ADL/AIPAC in conjunction with the impunity with which Israel and many on Wall Street tend to go about their business.

This is a very clever world-wide public relations/group-advancement scam which abuses guilt and victimhood, and far more should be wiser to the damage which it does, not the least of which being to Israel's (and Jews' interests elsewhere) long term best interests.

73. At 2:24pm on 05 Jan 2009, JadedJean
Anything remotely unexpected?

Nope. All round. But it seems the mighty news gathering system has rebooted and is kicking into life again after some downtime...

From our Diplomatic Editor Mark Urban who has been to the Israel-Gaza border:
"Israel is using enormous military power against Gaza but so far has restricted access to the area. I've been finding out what the campaign looks like close up, asking Israelis what they expect it to achieve and trying to communicate with people inside Gaza about what the Israeli offensive has done to them."

I know it's a tad 'two wrongs' and all, but I am sure Hamas will also be asked what it has expected to achieve by their tactics, and a disproportionately acceptable number of Israelis will get asked how the last few months bunker-huddling has been for them, though that's not been mentioned. Priorities, I guess.

The choice of eye-witnesses on the ground that may be accessed from 'close up' will be as interesting as having explained the means by which such communications get facilitated.

I fear my faith in the objectivity and professionalism at play is often tested.

The muted nature of the international response is indeed of note, especially from those who might be thought to be more supportive. Perhaps an explanation for that may be sought, with luck from senior political figures of the countries in question, though I am sure there are other well know faces with some thoughts a mere researchers' speed dial away closer to home.

JunkkMale (#75) Sadly, there are plenty of Personality Disordered careerists about who are easily recruited to foment just enough trouble/economy with the truth to give this outrageous international subterfuge/scam just enough credence to keep it ticking over in Israel's (and its supporters) interest. Watching Michael Levy on BBC News (as former UK Middle-East Envoy) this-evening, along with other footage of Tony Blair, takes our corrupt, cynical politics to new debts of contempt I suggest. Fortunately, there are Israelis (and Jews elsewhere) who see and comment upon the folly of what's being done by Israel and its backers (not that this makes any difference of course). I hasten to add that I have nothing against Jews or Israel per se, just duplicity and hypocritical racism which appears to be almost policy. Something like two dozen Israelis (some of whom will be Arabs) have been killed by these rockets an mortars over the past 8 years. I'd like to know how hard it is for Israel to radar track them when launched, and either take them out there and then, or warn the expected target area in time. There is rarely any mention of how Gaza has been blockaded, which Abbas cited as a war crime last November.

Readers/viewers who can't appreciate the clear iniquity/predatory nature of 'Israel' (discounting those hoping to benefit from the charade of defence), are testament to just how hopelessly out of touch many of us have now become these days. It is not anti-semitic to point out that there are those amongst the Jews who play the victim and systematically hoodwink non-Jews to the latter's disadvantage.

Listening to Lorna Fitzsimons of BICOM on BBC News (ably moderated by Gavin) under the circumstances, more of less said it all sadly:

"BICOM's chief executive, until July 2006, was Danny Scheck, a high-level official of the Israeli foreign ministry on a two year leave of absence. He was previously the chief spokesman and director of the press division of Israel’s foreign ministry. He left to become the Israeli ambassador to France."

In less than 15 minutes it will be Twelfth Night in my neck of the woods, but the Newsnight blog team don't seem to have acknowledged yet that it's 2009.

DUMB DEFIANCE? (#75)

"I am sure Hamas will also be asked what it has expected to achieve by their tactics"

I have read of Brits imprisoned by the Japanese, taunting them and receiving a beating in return. You can't fault a Brit. Are not the Hamas rockets akin to that taunting? A young man's gotta do, what a young man's gotta do. And now they are getting the prescribed beating.
Didn't the ancient Chinese advocate leaving a defeated enemy some dignity? But then the Old Testament is strong on total annihilation of 'Amalekites', their wives, children, animals, cooking pots, etc. I suppose therein lies the difference between philosophy and dogmatic belief.

I hope we all 'took in' the Arch of Cant, offering his 'mite' over the hols? Hot dogma!

I'll admit i feel for the people of Gaza but in defence of Israel, I have to wonder exactly what Hamas thought would happen?

The Israeli's are not English and therefore, do not tolerate (Hamas or Hizbollah) hitting them on the head with a ten pound hammer, and then after worldwide criticism (Hamas or Hizbollah) replaces it with a five pound hammer, to a furore of celebration from Israel, No that's more English than Israeli.

we get pounded by if it moves tax it goverments (None are less guilty than the other), if they complain reduce it and we smile and are happy like, and i Quote: Insightless muppets'.

what we appreciate is overly aggressive is not seen that way in the middle east. If Israel behaved like we do here, there would be no Israel.

Gr8vel (#79) You have a good point about British political apathy in contrast to Jewish activism. Here is a link to a NY Times article back in 1911.

What I think the question one has to ask is how and why any one group appears to be much more emotional and prone to extreme stress-responses than another. The indigenous British are renowned for being placid but resiliant, Jews (as a group are stereotyped as not - think of Woody Allen's caricatures). In the past, I have offered a possible explanation at the statistical level for this group difference (see the NYC stats for a guide, and think of the phenomenal growth of 'therapy' and psychological ill-health in the last century). Why?