Amazin! I think if it was that bad, the screening was full and there where people laughing and really getting into it THAT would have made it more awkward!

The set up of this film also sounds a bit like "Witness".

What a pity they didn't go and hide in an Amish community. That could have been even more side-splittingly hilarious...

Not a Fan then Doc?

hmmm i feel kinda in limbo as i havent seen any of the big mamma films or some like it hot..... so i guess i am not anywhere or anyone lol

And yet still no appearance of the "Fred" review...



Hope fades.

You have to be a Martin Lawrence fan to really like his Big Momma series. I caught the first Big Momma's House (a cop has to impersonate an elderly woman in order to protect a witness) on TV and didn't dislike it, he did make me laugh a few times, but I can't say I loved it either. I imagine it will have been the best of this series. The first movie was a sizable multiplex hit, it almost took as much as Mission Impossible 2.



To give Lawrence some credit he does work hard at the slapstick, pulling faces and double entendres to produce laughs in his movies, but it can feel laboured; other than the first Bad Boys movie the only other film of his that sticks in my mind was Black Knight; again he worked hard at the slapstick, pulling faces and double entendres on the basis that if one gag doesn't work another will be along in a minute.

Dr K, im sure that we all understand how hard it is to watch terrible films but do we realy need to suffer as you have?



I suppose we can all count our selfs lucky that you didn't decide to act out A Serbian Film. Thank heavens for small mercies.

Thank you Dr K for posting this wonderful rant. It was great to see it, having only been able to hear it live and on the podcast. A true Kermodian gem!



@No.4 Gazzauk, do yourself a favour and get hold of Some Like it Hot. One of the best Billy Wilder movies. Jack Lemon and Tony Curtis are brilliant, as is Marilyn Monroe, Edward G Robinson and Joe E Brown. A true comedy classic. Lemon is the standout for me.



I have never seen (and will never see) any of the Big Momma movies. I couldn't believe they flogged this dead and decayed one-joke horse any further.



Martin Lawrence did make some interesting movies in the past, but now he's on a downward spiral, I'm afraid with these schlocky, tasteless movies. The joke was tissue thin in the first movie.



I can only imagine the torture it must have been to sit through ANOTHER one of these movies. Thanks again Dr K, for taking another one for the team.

Mark, you must read this in relation to your cinema rules......you need to think again: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

@ Jayfurneaux



That is a very warm, forgiving review of Mr. Lawrence's efforts. I suppose it has to be said that if we're talking about successful film comedians, he's not as hateful and bile-filled as his counterparts Eddie Murphy and Adam Sandler. Sure, overweight people probably don't feel great, but at least he doesn't share that same level of creepy misogyny (and in the case of Sandler's loathsome 'Chuck and Larry', overtly hypocritical homophobia). It sure is lame though. Plus, Lawrence didn't do himself in favours in the race relations camp in Bad Boys 2, where he goes to Cuba, finds the entire Cuban military in the back garden of a drug dealing billionaire, and exits by Humveeing an entire shanty town community to death. (All diplomatic channels dismissed as gutless, socialist sympathisers, naturally.)

@ TheConciseStatement



Like you, I really, really disliked Bad Boys 2; it was bad (& in really bad taste; that shanty town scene (let's trash poor peoples homes) is really hateful, as was the morgue van chase) on so many levels. One of Michael Bay's worst movies (& so many to choose from!).



I didn't love the first Bad Boys movie (Bay isn't a great action director, he just fills the screen with 'stuff' and fast edits), but Lawrence & Smith together at that time managed to lift it to being a just-about-OK buddy/cop movie.

In BB2 they seemed to have lost their chemistry.



The days of smart, intelligent US comedies seems to be over. There are odd flashes; Tropic Thunder wasn't too bad.



Recent years have been pretty poor. But then for every Laurel & Hardy, Marx Brothers, Frank Capra, Hawks's Bringing Up Baby, Wilder's great comedies [Some Like it Hot, The Odd Couple, The Apartment, Irma la Douce etc], Mel Brooks & Steve Martin's golden periods, Tootsie, the Austin Powers etc. US cinema has delivered vast amounts of lowbrow, dumb and tasteless (and mostly unfunny) comedy movies.



The Police Academies, Rodney Dangerfield, Chevy Chase, Adam Sandler etc. Just not funny, period. To me at least.



Lawrence? Watch Black Knight or Big Momma's House; he knows he has to carry the movie and he puts a lot of effort into it. You may not find it to your taste (or that funny) but he does try hard; that's my point. Many 'comedy' actors don't try; think of Steve Martin's recent efforts.



At the end of the day the first Big Momma's House was no worse than some of the many so-so Carry On films (& Police Academy 1 was essentially a USA remake of Carry on Sergeant); yet people seem to be developing a retrospective fondness for the Carry On's.



No, Black Knight is not a classic by any means, but at the end of a hard work week it'd while away 90 minutes and get you in the mood for the weekend - something a lot of multiplex fodder relies on.



Same with the first Big Momma's House; a mix of broad comedy plus love wins through, plus other oversimplified sentimental values wins the day kind of movie.



It's not the worst 'comedy' movie I've ever seen; or attempted to watch. The worst? Recently - Epic Movie [I lasted 10 minutes before switching channels], anything with Rodney Dangerfield; some others have been so bad I've wiped them from memory. The success of Caddy Shack (and Three Stooges from the 1930's ) utterly mystifies me.



When I was much younger I walked out on Eric Sykes's The Plank (considered by some a mini classic).

I found it utterly unfunny (as were a lot of Milligan's TV efforts also).



If we use sophisticated, character based comedy as a yardstick (e.g. Billy Wilder - who, quite seriously, was one of the best comedy and drama [Sunset Boulevard] directors of all time then nothing nowadays comes close - except some character based TV series.



It's possible that the ability to develop characters and situations over a period of time in a TV series (think of British TV [& some radio] comedy classics) has reduced the impact of all but the cleverest, and therefore more infrequent, successful movie comedies.

Brilliant review - just love it, can't agree more! :)

They explain away the trashing of the shanty town by letting us know that THIS shanty is a drug lab or some such. It's all a bit crashy, noisy and bouncy at that point so I'll forgive you for not noticing it.



Agreed, there is something quite wrong about BB2, it's as though in BB1 they were just solving crime and bad guys got killed. In BB2 it's as though they're really going out of their way to shoot people. And I wonder if the different career trajectories did what it did to the Smith/Lawrence chemistry.



Rodney Dangerfield is briliant in Caddyshack but that is basically because he's just playing Rodney Dangerfield the stand-up comic.



I had the misfortune to sit through Meet Wally Sparks once and by the ned I was rooting for the square fall guy that Wally was tormenting.



Oh and least funny comedy of recent years: the Dumb & Dumber prequel.

cross dressing comedies reached its zenith as an admittadly shallow pool of ideas, with nuns on the run when two gangsters dress up as women to hide from other gangsters with hilarious consequences.... hang on where have i heard that plot before?!!

Love the newsreader's face at about 5.49 when Dr K's performing his little boy impression.



"You know that moment when comedy dies?" Yes Mark, I think she does.

@ Rich Indeed



Oh stop it. Justine loves The Good Doctor.

Can't wait for your Transformers 3 review.



However, you have to wear this...



https://blogs.forbes.com/davidewalt/2011/02/17/transformers-cine-mask-3d/



...when watching Bay's latest sequel.

Just finished listening to the review and it was one of the low points of another, sadly poor podcast. Dumbing down is the phrase, as Simon and Mark get sillier and sillier as the weeks go by. We used to have intelligent, interesting chats and reviews about films, now it’s more and more in house jokes, and immature rubbish like the "Simon Mayo in a fat suit" stuff we had to suffer this week. It's pretty pointless reviewing films like this as comedies (?) of this style are not targeted at the sort of audience that listens to 5-Live, and pretty obviously Mark is going to think they are rubbish. So please, less of the digressing silly jokes and more proper film stuff would be appreciated.

After many outings for martin Lawrence its become apparent that his name cannot be said in a serious manor. When ever I hear his name mentioned its always spoken in a stupidly cheesy american voice, as a result he will never be taken seriously as an "actor" furthermore when hearing that he is in a film already I have a inkling that the movie he is in will be terrible.

I know this is terribly inappropriate and I apologize in advance, but whenever I see that nice looking lady (I'm sorry I don't know her name), on the show she always seem to be fluttering her eye lashes at Mayo! I think we need to keep and eye on that one. I heard this review on the podcast but after hearing Mark's voice doing the voices I had to watch the video.



p.s Mark, I just bought your new(ish) book, looking forward to it!



Thanks

Olly

@ jayfurneaux



I apologise in advande for this but i have to say it....



....THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE!!!!!!



Ahem. I apologise again. Thank you and goodnight.

Are the kinds of people who actually go to see this kind of garbage the same kind of people who actually think they had to have swam down a sewer before they can decide if it stinks or not? Or perhaps they'd have to consciously step in a cow pat before reserving judgment on how disgusting it is?



Contrary to poular belief it IS possible to judge a film without ever experiencing it, once you know a few things about it. I could tell you from 10 miles away, blind-folded and gagged what a stinker this film is, and it shall forever be beyond my grasp how anyone would actually want to part with cash to see such bilge.



PS: YOU'RE NOT UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO SEE EVERY DAMN FILM THAT WAS EVER MADE. YOU *ARE* ALLOWED TO LET A FEW PASS YOU BY...