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Mark Kermode|14:08 UK time, Friday, 10 December 2010

That time again. Time to peruse your elegant and considered responses to my blogs on issues as diverse as how far you'd go to see your Uncle Boonmee, the overlooked composers of some of the greatest soundtracks in 80s cinema, and a dialectic on class consciousness and onscreen profanity.

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  • Comment number 1.

    Now Tangerine Dreams Near Dark sound track was good, but in The Keep when they do Walking in the Air from the The Snowman cover it kind of pops the Undead Nazis balloon for me.

  • Comment number 2.

    I've been DESPERATELY looking for UNCLE BOONMEE through Filmdates.co.uk, and it's being shown in arthouse cinemas until today (10th Dec), then later on 6th Jan at ICA. Just not at a time when I'm back in the UK for the holidays (between 17th Dec and 2nd Jan).



    They should put it On Demand (like MONSTERS), that way the money goes straight to the makers, and no need to worry about distribution problems. Of course, there's piracy, but that's a lost cause.

  • Comment number 3.

    I live in Northampton (UK's 4th-largest town-population nearly 200,000) and fancied going to see machete this week only to find it's on 1 cimema,

    once,

    at 11.50pm,

    on a WEDNESDAY... i mean really.

  • Comment number 4.

    There is only ONE cinema here. ONE. And films like "Uncle Boonmee" are the ones that you'll have to drive to another, larger city, the nearest one being two and a half hours away, to watch. And they never bring re-issues or anything like that. It's sad actually. Mostly because I can't drive. If you want to watch such a film in a cinema, you must have a driver's licence.



    "the overlooked composers of some of the greatest soundtracks in 80s cinema" One name springs to mind: Richard Band. Some of the films he has composed a score for are: Troll, Puppet Master, The Alchemist, Re-Animator and From Beyond. Very impressive work.

  • Comment number 5.

    Tangerine Dream's track 'Confrontation' for Thief is just beautiful, and almost a kind of instrumental stepchild of Pink Floyd's 'Comfortably Numb'. Playing one after the other, on a walk home at night time, and for a minute you feel as empowered as the reborn James Caan at the end of the film - bliss.

  • Comment number 6.

    I always swear with a smile.

  • Comment number 7.

    Mark, you really should become a politician. 'Spin' Doctor Kermode. What about the code of conduct?

  • Comment number 8.

    I'll second Tangerine Dream's soundtrack to LEGEND. I haven't heard the Goldsmith score and I wouldn't want to. As a young kid LEGEND was one of the first films I ever saw on my brand new VHS recorder; the days when VHS was the latest thing! The film has always stuck with me since, mainly because of that soundtrack. It was dreamy, surreal and haunting - an aural mirror image of the film. As someone once said, sound is 40% of a film. Danny Boyle is a great believer in the power of sound and music in a film - he is one of few directors who ring-fences a slice of the movie's budget for the soundtrack. Other directors don't seem to care, and it shows in their work.



    I'm pissed off that I still cannot get a DVD copy with the Tangerine Dream soundtrack. It's like it's been excised from history.

  • Comment number 9.

    Thanks for the freeback Dr K but I have a request; I know you are a busy man and you can't read out everyone's posts but you seem to be consolidating much more of your thread responses in single videos unlike before when you would read out each topic's responses in a single video. This mean's that only one or two messages are being addressed on each topic even though many videos now are getting 100+ responses. There are many great points, arguments and opinions brought up in those conversations but the many brilliant contributors we have hear (as far as internet messaging boards go this is by far one of most intelligent - not to mention polite - ones I've been to) and many voices are left being unheard. I try to read as many as possible but I a lot of the time I can't get through them all. I'd be nice if we could get more "in depth" on certain topics rather than casting the net widely and only briefly acknowledging a few points.



    Grumble over.



    Also, saw Somewhere today. It's Lost in Translation without the wit.

  • Comment number 10.

    #9 - Hear! hear!

  • Comment number 11.

    Re : myself



    After a bit of looking around, it may be the case, that the one track I'm referring to in the score to Thief called 'Confrontation', may not actually be composed by Tangerine Dream! Oh well, what I said still stands - sounds great on walks at home at night, played together with 'Comfortably Numb'.

  • Comment number 12.

    Tangerine Dream is always a plus, they are responsible for perhaps the greatest score from the 80's 'Thief'

  • Comment number 13.

    Re swearing:

    The diff in swearing is that in Made in Dagenham the language is used in dialogue between characters and therefore used as swearing is normally used in speech, to colour or emphasize emotional expression. In The Kings Speech, the swearing isn't directed AT anyone - the aggresive nature of the words is removed. As such, I can understand the decision to allow one at 12A while leaving the other at 15.

  • Comment number 14.

    @ TheConciseStatement, The track Confrontation was in fact by Craig Safan, who's perhaps most famous for his theme music for the TV series 'Cheers'. The story goes that Michael Mann needed some extra music for Thief but TD had returned to Germany and so he asked Craig to supply something a bit like their music for the movie. Mind you I don't blame TD for going home as at one point they were once locked in a cupboard as the US studio thought they didn't have the right visas. Can't imagine Jerry Goldsmith gettign treated the same way ;)



    For more on TD I suggest checking out the score for Flashpoint (which is actually a pretty decent film), Firestarter (which is a god awful film) as well as the made for TV 'Forbidden' (again the nazi's against TD, German synth-pop wins...probably on penalties! sadly unreleased on CD though :(). If you've got that far also looked for their pre-Hollywood scores such as Vampira (1971).

  • Comment number 15.

    @ I_am_I

    you need to get a multi-region DVD player and then get yourself the two disc (region 1) version of Legend, which contains by the TD and Jerry Goldsmith scores, great music...shame about the film, Ridley what were you thinking of? ;)

  • Comment number 16.

    My concern with uncle boonmee is, as i didnt watch it the week-of-release, im kinda screwed. il have to wait until dvd... if its easy enough to get it that way!



    Simon (of Simon and Jo Film show podcast)

    www.simonandjofilmshow.podomatic.com

    www.screeninsight.com

  • Comment number 17.

    @Me



    I realise that just before I comment on the collective intelligence of this board that I used "hear" instead of "here".



    Sorry for denting our credibility guys.

  • Comment number 18.

    Once again, thank you Dr K for your concise precise of the comments presented here in response to your video blog.



    I am looking forward to seeing The Kings Speech on Boxing Day here in Oz. I will then judge on the use of swearing in it's context, as opposed to Made in Dagenham (which I loved).



    I will do my utmost to 'swear with a smile' when dealing with the idiots and morons of this world, believe me, there's a lot out there.

  • Comment number 19.

    I'd really like to see The Keep with the wonderful Tangerine Dream soundtrack released on DVD, my VHS copy has gone kaput. Can we start a pressure group?

  • Comment number 20.

    I think that you should rename your programme "Bantertainment".



    It is much more fitting XD.

  • Comment number 21.

    @ Robinthedog: not sure about The Keep (I only rate the first minute and then it goes downhill from there and never fully recovers in my opinion, even the author thought they slaughtered his book), however what I really want is a decent DVD/Blu Ray of Friedkin's Sorcerer. Hopefully widescreen with all the different cuts, including the UK TV version? that opens with TD's score with a long helicopter shot over the jungle. Much praise should go to not only Tangerine Dream for their ground breaking score but also to Keith Jarrett for his eerie Spheres album much of which is used at several key points during the film. I'm sure lots of people over the years didn't even notice it was Keith who did some of the music and all the praise/brickbats went to TD instead.

  • Comment number 22.



    In defence of The Keep - the version of the film that was originally released (and which totals around 96 minutes), was a result of cuts imposed by the studio.



    Depending on which story you believe, the extended cut would be anywhere between 2 to 3 hours. It would be fantastic to have a proper version of this film, but whether we ever will, is unclear. Several reasons have been given as to why the film, hasn't been released.



    Anyway. Great soundtrack.

  • Comment number 23.

    I was looking for a picture of kermode on google all I get is cute white bears.... interesting.

  • Comment number 24.

    Tangerine Dream also did a deliciously atmospheric score for Kathyrn Bigelow's NEAR DARK. Tremendously underrated.

  • Comment number 25.

    Mirrorball, I also did a sort of aural doubletake when Tangerine Dream's version of Walking In The Air came on in The Keep!