Can the Tories deliver 'real change'?
The Conservatives will fight the general election under the slogan "vote for change". Can they deliver on their promise?
In a speech at his party's spring conference, leader David Cameron said he has "got what it takes to turn this country around". The Conservatives have outlined six key election campaigning areas: dealing with the deficit; boosting enterprise; shoring up families; backing the NHS; raising standards in schools; and cleaning up politics.
But, after one opinion poll suggested the Conservatives' lead had narrowed to two points, Mr Cameron acknowledged his party faced a "real fight". Labour said voters would find the speech "wanting" for substance.
Did you watch David Cameron's speech? Can his party deliver real change? What do you think of their election slogan?
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At 05:25 27th Feb 2010, U14357878 wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 05:28 27th Feb 2010, muttlee wrote:The change I would worry about is the change to a tax system to benefit the well off [with massive reductions in death duties for instance],and a change for the worse for the less well off [possibly with the abolition of Tax Credits and large chunks of the benefits system].I worry about a change to privatised Schools and a privatised NHS.I also worry about the break up o the UK which will surely come when Scotland recoils from an 'English' Conservative party lording it over the Scots again. Change there may be,but it might not be for the better for most of us.
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At 05:41 27th Feb 2010, Gary Chiles wrote:If "change" means not starting any more wars, telling the yanks where to go, and stamping out religious nonsense, that would be a good thing.
However, I don't think that is the kind of change the CONservatives have in mind.
Always remember, the CONservatives still think of the Dark Ages as "the good old days".
Still looking forward to the great leap backwards?
True believers in social justice no longer have any political representation in the UK system. Voting, for those with a social conscience, has become as unpleasent a task as using a portable toilet at a summer festival.
All the available choices are total excrement, but you still have to choose one, and just hold your nose.
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At 05:44 27th Feb 2010, U14357878 wrote:I love David Cameron, he has a lovely haircut and I believe every word he says - that Gideon Osborne is very nice too and he can count to 10.
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At 06:10 27th Feb 2010, Linda wrote:After 13 years of labour in power we need a change.. ooops, am i allowed to say that.. one has to be careful what one says nowadays.
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At 06:10 27th Feb 2010, sir andrew freespeech wrote:change for what poll tax 18% inflation 3 million out of work 250,000 miners out of work remember thatcher its all ready started notts council leicester county council both tory i minght add cutting public money do we really wont the goast of thatcher back {david the eaton lad camron]
there both the same yes lets vote for change a give another party a crack at it thay carnt mess it up as much as the main two no more boom and bust torys and labour said the same as i can recall WHAT A LAUGH or is it there just lairs o and 1 more thing expeces immigration you can go on and on and on
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At 06:12 27th Feb 2010, Lynn from Sussex wrote:The country does need change and also a 'leap backwards' We need to go back to an education system that educates, law and order that is on the side of the victim and not the criminal. We need to stop paying teenage mothers to breed. We need a simplified tax system that is fair to all. We need to put the brake on uncontrolled immigration. We need an NHS that is not overburdened by management and targets. We need to encourage business startups to provide employment and this will lead to increased tax revenue. What the country does not need is a continuation of the last 12 years.
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At 06:23 27th Feb 2010, starquin10 wrote:There would be no significant difference between Camerons BluLabour and the version we currently have in Government.
On every major issue, Conservatives have the same policies as the LibDems and Labour.
This is to be expected as, since Lisbon, the parties have very, very little they are allowed to change. Everything else comes from Brussels
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At 06:29 27th Feb 2010, ldw wrote:So Cameron's offering change? Like the SAME haircut he's borrowed from a 1990s Blair? And the SAME slogan that worked for a much more genuine and socially responsible Obama?
By the time this wolf in sheep's clothing has taken us back to 'no such thing as society, just the individual', a boom and bust economy, devastation of the NHS and transport system, more needless wars and arms spending, a view of England - i mean the UK - about 200 years out of date, family values... there'll be no change left to go 'round.
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At 06:34 27th Feb 2010, His Horse is Thunder wrote:Can the Tories deliver 'real change'?
Of course they can, as they have always demonstrated in the past, but it won't be a change for the better. People would get mass enemployment, riots, reduced public services, higher taxes, be taught greed and seperatism by trying to convince individuals that they are better than anyone else. Essentially everthing that is bad in society.
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At 06:34 27th Feb 2010, David Maginnis wrote:I lived through the thatcher years, never again will I trust the tories.
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At 06:36 27th Feb 2010, SnoddersB wrote:I have taken the Tories at their word and will be voting for change. I will vote UKIP and have a change from the EU dictators ruling this country.
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At 06:37 27th Feb 2010, Stephen wrote:Both Conservative-&-Labour are dodging honesty across-the-board; 80% did NOT vote Labour in previous General Election, shame MANDATORY-voting [easily register online when living or moving-to a given-address].
Pretending pensions & other 'benefits' are affordable without stiff TAX-INCREASES funding the Welfate-Bucket fools a-few; as more company-pensions 'fail' it is clear the 'old' rely on the State [TAXPAYER].
Ripping pensioners-off with UK£1,000pw care-charges... & claiming an UK£8,000 insurance-premium will pay-out after commissions, profit... should ring alarm-bells.
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At 06:44 27th Feb 2010, Ax0l0tl wrote:As they say "if you could vote for a change they would ban it".
The real problem is that we only have a choice of pro-capitalist parties to vote for and as the underlying problem is capitalism then we will never have a real change.
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At 06:46 27th Feb 2010, Liquidfire wrote:Definitely the Tories will deliver positive change. The country is desperate for a change from Labour in the first place. I see the main differences as 180 degree changes on
- Public sector spending. The Tories would spend efficiently (versus Labour who have spent, borrowed and taxed recklessly).
- Immigration. The Tories would tightly control non-EU immigration (versus Labour pretending to do that while actually doing the opposite)
- Education: The Tories would focus on every child achieving the best they can (versus Labour's focus on every child achieiving the same).
- Social: The Tory view is that people should be trusted to be responsible but jumped on if they are not (versus Labour's belief that nanny state knows best and should interfere in every aspect of your life).
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At 06:48 27th Feb 2010, KAOwen wrote:The Labour government have hardly made a success of their time in power. Immmigration, benefits underclass, decline in education standards, decline in NHS, worst recession in memory, political correctness, a decline in pride for Britain and britishness. So yes change is needed now. I hope the conservatives win as more of the same will make this country even more toxic to inhabit.
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At 06:48 27th Feb 2010, steve s wrote:Its a bit like Obama " Yes we can ".. WELL.....no you can't, actually.Change?Please try to be a bit more original because nothing is perfect, it never will be and what we need to know is the nitty gritty policy measures the conservatives will actually implement.That is a long time in coming and the longer Cameron leaves it the smaller his lead will become.When millions of working people are putting in loads of overtime for nothingCameron has a very big hill to climb.
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At 06:50 27th Feb 2010, Daryl wrote:Labour?/Tory?...same old same old. Cameron is far too interested in telling people what they want to hear but as soon as the votes are counted it will be back to normal with no promises kept, no real changes made. The Mps expenses joke has made many voters realise that this country needs radical political change but the party political system is a big monster to slay!.
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At 06:50 27th Feb 2010, vince russell wrote:There is no difference between any of the ruling elite. They are all in power to be in power, not to change anything. there have been very few real changes since before the Normans took charge, the ratio of rich and poor is still the same but the gap is wider. there is no real democracy, Brown or Cameron, they only care about being in power, not what it can do.
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At 06:52 27th Feb 2010, Ax0l0tl wrote:No change, whether Tory, Liberal or Labour they all say cut. The only difference is by how much.
Oh yes, like the new style HYS. The neanderthals seem to have gone elsewhere to vent their bile.
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At 07:00 27th Feb 2010, paganpaul wrote:Yes the Tories can deliver change - smaller government, lower taxes. Whether they will or not is a different matter.
However, more of the same is not an option for us. The Labour Party has tried to ruin our country with uncontrolled mass immigration. It is supine towards the European Union and failed to get public consent via a referendum to the transfer of many powers to Brussels. It has protected and encouraged the growth of religious extremism.
The Tories are the last hope for an independent UK.
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At 07:01 27th Feb 2010, John May wrote:Yep, the Tories can deliver 'real change'.
They can change the faces we see on TV and in the papers.
Other than that, they will do what all the other major parties intend. Change the way they ruin the lives of the majority of the population of the UK, destroy the economy, and impose unpleasant, occupying forces in far off lands.
A change in the method of government is required, not a name change of the current one.
Cynical? You bet!
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At 07:13 27th Feb 2010, Lord Rant wrote:No doubt the next incoming government will WILL deliver change. Whether it be a good or bad "change" will be another matter..
This present Labour government ,lack the ability to comprehend the deep ingrained Financial and Social problems this country face.
At present Labour simply has the wrong mix of talent to run a "Toffee shop". let alone a Government .Any Idiot can borrow and throw money about
For the Tories to achieve any real constructive and corrective progress in solving the UK problems they must gather together a balanced mix of real talent . and leave aside the labour mentality of 'hire a Mate" for the job .
If the Tories party forgets the old schoolboy network and forms the best team for the problems ahead.
Then and only then ,with the right people in the right jobs ,Yes they Will achieve real change for the long term benefit of ALL the UK.
Such a team should probably consider the likes of Vic Cable form the liberals
But the some nasty tasting medicine will be taken before the UK begins to recover
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At 07:15 27th Feb 2010, Average-UK-Male wrote:Oh I hope there is a change, a change to the tax system where when you work hard to earn a decent wage nearly half of it is taken to give to the workshy, a change to justice where punishment fits the crime, a change to education where disruptive pupils are expelled with no recurse of appeal and a change to immigration like putting up a sign saying sorry we are full.
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At 07:17 27th Feb 2010, theblackant wrote:Our society is in moral and social meltdown. The Tories nor indeed Labour or the Liberal Democrats are really going to offer us the kind of changes we really need to see in society. We need real change in the way business is run, the way the planet's resources are managed and an end to the ludicrous indulgence that providing more and more consumer goods is going to make people happy and fulfilled. Do I hear anyone offering a really radical agenda for change or have we already reached the point of no return?
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At 07:17 27th Feb 2010, Joseph Harrington wrote:We need a break from this present Government, which helped start a war, led us into recession by failing in their duty to control bank lending, they have plunged us into massive debt by borrowing billions, printed money, interest rates at an all time low, unemployment at an all time high. They would rather spend our money on immigration, illegal foreign wars, foreign aid, asylum and EU subsidies which together would come close to wiping out our national debt.
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At 07:23 27th Feb 2010, leighton kirby wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 07:24 27th Feb 2010, squigles wrote:I always thought you elect a party to represent your ideals and wishes? I have not seen this to date, change will come and it won't be through electing Tory, Labour or Lib …………
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At 07:24 27th Feb 2010, Daisy Chained wrote:You do not change something via slogans, sound bites, and leaders who say a lot. The will to change is demonstrated by actions. Consider the actions Mr Cameron has taken in Parliament, in his media appearances, and give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps. Now look at the Tories in office since 1979 and, if you are an ordinary person, shudder.
Vote for Change (for the worse).....
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At 07:31 27th Feb 2010, David Edinburgh wrote:Successful companies always sack their bad managers and Labour have proved yet again that they cannot manage our country, so we desperately need change.
Standards and have fallen everywhere (especially education) and only the gullible think differently, because they only listen to the Government's manipulated figures - 'spin' that Labour is now famous for. If you want the UK to become a Third World country (the rest of the World is overtaking us), then vote Labour again. if not vote for change - we really do need it.
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At 07:34 27th Feb 2010, The Ghosts of John Galt wrote:If I thought we lived in a democracy I could be a believer in the preachers of the doctrine of sacrifice. But unfortunately, I know we live in some kind of perverse one party state that likes to fool the public with a charade of elections every so often - it stops the masses getting restless you know! If people really want change they must change the system, change the established order, and remove the incompetent, the corrupt and the morally bankrupt from all our institutions. If the public want real change, then the first step to achieving this is to open the mind to the possibility that our perceptions of reality are being manipulated by those who wish to control us all. Wake up first, then choose a different kind of future not dictated by corrupt elites and wealthy parasites. The fake saints and saviours of party politics will not save us or change anything.
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At 07:39 27th Feb 2010, ThoughtsRThings wrote:Yes. The Tories can deliver real change. This doesn't necessarily mean that it will be change for the better though.
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At 07:40 27th Feb 2010, Howdidweenduplikethis wrote:Gary Chiles writes...
"All the available choices are total excrement, but you still have to choose one, and just hold your nose."
Is there any wonder we have the politicians we current slave under?
Whats wrong with civil unrest? Or were our forefathers just wasting their time struggling to provide us with rights we so carelessly neglect?
Its worth remembering that most of those weren't gained from any ballot box.
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At 07:41 27th Feb 2010, powermeerkat wrote:I seriously doubt that British subjects will ever be allowed to vote in a referendum on U.K.'s membership in EU superstate.
Regardless who's Britain's next premier.
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At 07:44 27th Feb 2010, Ian T wrote:Still harking back to "the Thatcher years"? Pathetic. They ended twenty years ago and if it wasn't for her, we'd have been in this appalling mess continually since the seventies.
Labour administrations past and present (hopefully never again future) seem to think that money grows on trees and that money can be continually doled out to those that it hopes will vote for it. Doling out money = success in their book, but it's not. We haven't got any left.
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At 07:45 27th Feb 2010, cottingley wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 07:47 27th Feb 2010, PeterTigerman wrote:David Cameron has lost the plot. He keeps talking about change, but doesn't offer any to his potential voters. I am not a core Tory voter, I have voted Labour in the past, but not this time. Yet i know many strong Tories who will not vote Tory this time. This is entirely due to the fact that they don't think Cameron is offering change. It will be more of what we have had this past 13 years. This government offers him open goals and he cannot score in any of them. He doesn't raise the issues. The economy is in a real mess; Brown wrecked UK pensions; the farce of immigration control and deportation of asylum seekers; the workshy given dole for not working; the overpaid public servants; and the EU. Nothing comes from Cameron and the Tories.
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At 07:48 27th Feb 2010, Daisy Chained wrote:Please can we have some choice in this election, a chance to vote for what we really believe and want. There is not a lot of difference between Con, Lab and Lib, so little in fact that you won't notice there has been an election whoever wins.
So do something really exciting - don't vote, or if you do, spoil your ballot. Now that really would be a vote for change.
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At 07:48 27th Feb 2010, thorsteiner wrote:I see that it is assumed the Tories are going to win the forthcoming General Election but I have my doubts because at the recent Council Election held in Jarrow, both the Tories and Lib-Dems were beaten by two Independant Candidates and one Right Wing candidate and the Labour winner had an enormous amount of postal votes !
Nothing is certain in politics !!
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At 07:50 27th Feb 2010, webboffin wrote:The change will be more of the same. Dishonesty will still prevail and avoidance of direct questions.
By the way the new Have Your Say has gone retro by 15 years. The previous one was easier to read and had a supportive vote of the general feelings of the community, this new one is ugly and bland and boring. I will probably like others go to other forums.
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At 07:52 27th Feb 2010, Paul Stevens wrote:I don't trust the Tories by any means but there's no doubt they'll clear up some of the mess left by Labour, the crime issue for example, (probably create some mess while doing so).
Sadly if they get in they'll probably scrap the alternative voting system proposed by Brown and supported by the Lib Dems since it won't work in their favour.
Fact is no political party will make things perfect. It's a question of who will make less of a mess.
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At 07:54 27th Feb 2010, chrislabiff wrote:The public will take ANYTHING provided they are allowed to play big kids every few years, wave a piece of paper about and think they have democracy. Seriously, think about it, would power ever allow a bunch of serfs to effect meaningful change? So the shop-front changes colour, again, but the goods are identical. Don't worry, after say 8/15 years of Tory misrule you can give Tory-Lite another landslide. Exciting eh?! Things can only ever get better! For movie buffs, this one-party game is represented by TweedleDee and TweedleDum in Alice in Wonderland - nothing new. Enjoy exercising your right, citizens.
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At 07:54 27th Feb 2010, gughskipper wrote:The Tories can,t even sneeze unless they get permission from Brussels. So whats the point of people voting in a general election.
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At 07:58 27th Feb 2010, The Ghosts of John Galt wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 07:59 27th Feb 2010, ConManDave wrote:Yes , the Tories can deliver real change. Changes that will make life worse for the majority because the people making them are not from ordinary working backgrounds, they don't understand the need for a strong NHS, strong state Schools and for an economy that will provide decent jobs. They understand inheritance breaks for the well off, they understand private education and private health care, they understand how to exploit working people to make more money for the idle rich, they understand the importance of fox-hunting (to their weekend fun).
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At 08:02 27th Feb 2010, MrsSilly wrote:I don't take any notice of slogans, they are childish.
But, I do believe the Conservatives will deliver the changes needed to bring the UK economy back on track.
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Comment number 47.
At 08:05 27th Feb 2010, chrislabiff wrote:We did vote for change. We got the SAME OLD CON.
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At 08:06 27th Feb 2010, rapidviking wrote:If the conservatives get elected the time for change slogan will be realised - the party has amongst its leadership boys who want to become men and will want to prove themselves by leading a bloodbath of public services in the name of reducing defecit. This will be change - having lived through two tory lead recessions where in the 1980's 3 million people were unemployed for 5years and whole communities were destroyed by party dogma, whereas in the 1990's it was a financial meltdown due to our membership of EMU I am not sure that I am ready for that change again. The public services have improved over the last 13 years I am not sure the tories want to preserve them at current levels- the hyeanas are currently circling awaiting the spoils. Certainly public services need streamlining making savings where possible but not affecting current levels of service.
The difference between parties is one of timing to make changes to reduce defecit - one wants to go at it from day1 whereas the other two are prepared to wait for a year before acting. The real change for the country would be a hung parliament where the party with the largest number of seats has to significantly rely on smaller parties in coalition or a revolution based on people power - it is very questionable whether MP's represent their constituents so changes to the voting system are needed to reflect this.
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At 08:06 27th Feb 2010, Tio Terry wrote:The country is certainly in need of change, the present administration has clearly run out of ideas and keeps peddaling the same old policies time and time again in new wrapping paper. Having said that I'm not convinced that Cameron is the man to bring us the neccessary change. His policies all seem a bit airy fairy, outlines with no meat on the bones. If he wants to gain votes he's got to give more detail of what he's going to do and how he's going to do it.
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At 08:07 27th Feb 2010, Barrowmucker wrote:Yes they should be able to and have done so in the past, not always to the best advantage of the country, but we are in a mess and we need a government who can get things moving again and who will stop throwing money at every problem that comes up , and a Government who will tell it as it is, and who will support the hardworking and get the unemployed back to work.
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At 08:08 27th Feb 2010, frankiecrisp wrote:I'm sick of of nulabour but there is no way I'm going vote for a party whose front bench is full of public school boys who have never had proper jobs and have no idea how most people live and the struggles they have.
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Comment number 52.
At 08:11 27th Feb 2010, greatvoiceofreason wrote:I would like to hear the real situation regarding immigration explained without the race-card being played. Personally I would like to see a lot less of it, but if the economic reality is that we just can't get enough of it to balance the reducing birth-rate of the original white population (Labour's view which they haven't cared to share, but have vigourously pursued), where is this going to take us? And is this the only solution. David Cameron is going for the popular vote by saying he will control non-eu immigration, but what effect will this have on future population dynamics and the U.K's economic future?
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At 08:12 27th Feb 2010, Blinkybilly wrote:None of the current parties schemimg for our votes have the courage to take the very radical steps needed to change our society for the better. Tinkering with a system that has totally broken down and left its so called masters out in the cold needs a radical rebuild.
Harking back to the 'good old days' won't work for our modern society - we need a totally different blueprint, underpinned by solid values.
The right decisions are rarely the popular vote ones, but if trusted you'll win people over. I have yet to see a leader with a vision who I would trust, there is no one brave enough!
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Comment number 54.
At 08:13 27th Feb 2010, Angryman wrote:You know what. I just don't trust Cameron, there something about the fact he's able to have a dig at those around him but hasn't talked about any policies he and his boys will implement.
He does talk about family values and tax cuts for families. I know folk who have a happy family life with good level headed children but they are not married. Think again Cameron, it's a vote loser and I think you are.
Bring on Labour again.
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Comment number 55.
At 08:13 27th Feb 2010, Confucius wrote:Any new government will change what is happening now.
What the Tories will offer for the majority will be more serfdom for the peasants and a ring fence for the wealthier who have found a way of making more for themselves and decided that half the population is superfluous.
Thatcher put this country socially back 200 years. New LABOUR exploited what she had done and used it for the their own benefit.
She repealed labour Laws and workers rights. NU LAb destroyed their political party.
Between both parties, they have destroyed democracy in this country in favour of the privileged.
The result will be that extreme parties will grow just as they did in Germany in the 20's and the Money and influential will link with them.
Cameron with his weird Etonian ideas is too far removed from the realities of the real world and will not be able to stop the rot which pervades Whitehall.
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At 08:14 27th Feb 2010, barry wrote:if voting could change anything,do you really think these characters would,even for one brief moment,think about letting you do it
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At 08:14 27th Feb 2010, judy wrote:Let's hope that their "change" includes changing the leader of their party.
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At 08:16 27th Feb 2010, seenitallbefore wrote:How many years have the Tories been in opposition ? The slogan they are going to use is the meaningless - vote for change.
I dont know whether to laugh or cry.
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Comment number 59.
At 08:16 27th Feb 2010, Beejay wrote:If David Cameron wants to win the next election he must drop the "Green" image. Carbon Dioxide is not a poison or pollutant. Saving the Planet is a total waste of money and effort. Mother Nature wins every time. Stop wind farm subsidies Now. Do something about waste disposal so that we have our bins emptied every week. Stop most of the funding for Quangos. That alone will save billions. All immigrants should honour our flag/country/queen or return from whence they came. Stop town halls flying flags of other countries. Remember that religion is a faith and not a fact and do not impose one religion's demands on anyone that disagrees. Make referendums part of policy decision making. Let the people of this country have a bigger say in Government as at present we sit and watch and are impotent.
Use our resources [coal/gas etc]to produce power and build new, more efficient Nuclear power generators and avoid being held to ransom in decades to come by overseas suppliers. Develop the Falklands oil reserves. Enlarge our armed forces. Above all teach our children to read and write properly, avoid dumbed down TV programmes and stop Health and Safety and Human Rights from emasculating this once mighty Nation. Finally make all Politicians accountable for their actions.
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Comment number 60.
At 08:17 27th Feb 2010, thrill_vermilion wrote:As usual this country lurches from one political extreme to another every ten years. The new incumbent Government blames the last for the mess they have to clean up.
How long is this going to continue?
It's about tie political parties were scrapped in favour of true independant candidates who do what they are meant to do - represent the people who voted for them.
As it happens, I wouldn't trust David Cameron to hold a door open for me.
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At 08:18 27th Feb 2010, syd vaughan wrote:no, the economic climate is the market force on change,but a vote for tory is a vote for austerity, and the rich will prosper, while the working class will foot the bill, we cannot and must not cut back on jobs in the public sector, as the only way we can work our way out of this economic armagadon is by creating more worknot less, we must stop the lift and shift of manafacturing industries and bring in a policy like the french and germans where jobs are protected from the exploitation of greedy shareholders and off shore bosses,
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At 08:22 27th Feb 2010, androstempest wrote:can the Tories change would be a more pertinent question? Under 3 successive leaders they have been "unelectable" why should the fact that they are up against Gordon Brown mean that they are any more fit to govern now.
More smoke and mirrors from the master to Spin.
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Comment number 63.
At 08:22 27th Feb 2010, CL wrote:All this user's posts have been removed.Why?
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At 08:22 27th Feb 2010, thrill_vermilion wrote:The real change needs to come from society, and that is something that no Government can alter.
Personal change - less selfishness, greed, lack of consideration, arrogance and laziness.
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Comment number 65.
At 08:23 27th Feb 2010, Tim wrote:I lived through 18 years of Tory rule and I will never vote for them again - It really is that simple!
The basic principle of Tory rule is one of under investment and by the sounds of it, that is exactly what they are planning again.
Schools with no books or computers
Too few police on the streets
Not enough hospital beds
4 Million unemployed
A cut in taxes funded by the sale of all our national assets.
Sorry but I have been there before - Do I wan't to return to Briton in the early nineties? - No Thank You!
Many on here seem to think that times are bad now. I think they are either too young to remember the pre Labour years, or they are suffering from some form of memory defect!
Sure Labour have made some mistakes, but would the Tory's have done any better?
The Iraq War - The Tories have backed this all the way.
The Afghanistan War - See above
Allowing the banks too much freedom - Is that a left or right wing policy?
MP Expenses - Motes, duck houses -- sounds very blue to me.
The down turn - how many times did that happen between 1979 and 1997?
Taxation - We still pay lower taxes than much of Europe, which is why they have a better standard of living than us! The idea that you can have something for nothing is not going to work Mr. Osborne! Under investment leads to depravity and I don't want to go back to that.
I know it if fashionable to slag of NU LABOUR but please don't just be lemmings because history tells us that the other lot are a lot worse!
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Comment number 66.
At 08:24 27th Feb 2010, chrislabiff wrote:If voting posed the slightest danger of effecting change it WOULD BE ILLEGAL.
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Comment number 67.
At 08:27 27th Feb 2010, chiptheduck wrote:Yep!
Instead of all our money being given to the feckless, it will be handed to those with Eton on their CVs.
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Comment number 68.
At 08:27 27th Feb 2010, Sarah wrote:The slogan is probably effective. However, a lot of voters don't seem to realise that the change is likely to be negative with excessive cuts causing real hardship. The Tories will look after the rich and the poor will get even poorer. Children who don't have married parents will be made to feel like 2nd class citizens. The health service will be privatised even more with lots of private companies benefitting from tax payers money. More schools will be run by religious bodies encouraging a divided society, instead of improving social cohesion. David Cameron is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He comes across as Mr Nice Guy but he'll unleash devastating cuts.
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Comment number 69.
At 08:28 27th Feb 2010, Premal wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 70.
At 08:29 27th Feb 2010, Edwin Schrodinger wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 71.
At 08:34 27th Feb 2010, Mrs Vee wrote:The one thing in the Tories favour is that they are NOT Labour. Labour has brought this country to its knees; we cannot afford another 5 years of that. The Tories don't have all the answers but we cannot go on as we are.
I think benefit scroungers will feel a shiver go up their backs and some of the public service monoliths won't know what's hit them; are you listening, BBC?
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Comment number 72.
At 08:37 27th Feb 2010, tobycoulson wrote:One thing for certain is if Labour stay in power things will only change for the worse.
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Comment number 73.
At 08:37 27th Feb 2010, U14357915 wrote:Yes. People like me will vote for them. I am fed-up of being treated unfairly and like a 'naughty child' whilst having to work extremely hard to mittigate Brown's sneaky taxes, unreasonable beurocracy and pension -plundering policies. This is just making me more determined. I run a professional and responsible business and have a track-record of doing so. If you continue to treat the nation like greedy naughty kids you will end up with a nation of greedy naughty kids who need looking-after with no economy to do it with because if Brown is re-elected myself and others like me will emigrate to a country that treats us like the responsible adults that we are. I will also take my family, my business and technical skills and my experience with me. Brown should have fully understood the impacts of his policies before he implemented them. The Tories are clearly doing this and that is what was needed 10 years ago before this abysmal catalogue of waste, failure and cronyism started. Brown and his stateist policies have failed and are destroying trust and integrity amongst us. I will never vote Labour whilst he is involved in any way whatsoever. There is a thin-line between a courageous leader and a fool who is blundering on without taking a reality-check. For a start a courageous leader would promote trust, teamwork and fairness. A picture is emerging of Brown as the 'spoilt child' who bullies to get his own way regardless of the consequences to the rest of us. We can see the pattern of this emerging over time because we have intelligence. You cannot deny patterns that have established themselves over time as you cannot change what has happened. I want to see a change to this and the Tories will change it. Of that, there is no doubt. People might have to work a bit harder but, hey, no pain, no gain, as the saying goes. We ned an adult in charge now and that's what I'm voting for.
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Comment number 74.
At 08:38 27th Feb 2010, Wu Shu wrote:Nicely loaded question from the BBC who seem to be doing the job of New Labour's marketing department.
How about asking this question instead: "Can the Tories do any worse than New Labour?".
The answer to that is clearly 'no'.
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Comment number 75.
At 08:38 27th Feb 2010, winston smith wrote:Has it ever occured to the political parties that the world has moved on?The people of this country are far more streetwise and can evaluate, look up comments on the internet by all leaders,past policies,mistakes and gaffs.Politicians are under the spotlight as never before and the voters dont like what they see,can you blame them?The Tories are still viewed for the rich only,the Labour party as state dominated and the Lib-Dems still viewed as wannabees and a wasted vote.That doesnt leave much to support and many have been excused in the expenses row. These old parties cant change nor do they want to,they still think they can hoodwink the voters.The voters will punish the first party that blinks.A hung parliament is on the cards-a good or bad solution?-Lets find out.
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Comment number 76.
At 08:39 27th Feb 2010, griff wrote:I wouldn't trust Cameroon (sic) to change a light bulb, he is the most untrustworthy politician that I have ever seen and I do not believe a word shiny-faced Cameroon, or his shiny-faced sidekick Osborne say.
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At 08:40 27th Feb 2010, Vince Edwards wrote:I am sure they will keep their promise to bring change. That is a very good reason not to vote for them. ie. from principle to vacuousness, experience to ineptitude, consistency to opportunism .................
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Comment number 78.
At 08:41 27th Feb 2010, shillingfan wrote:Anyone who thinks the tories have changed their spots must be very gullible. It is a great pity that no one under the age of 30 will remember the Thatcher years and the poll tax as well as the systematic dismantling of British industry. Cameron is no different and in fact was and probably still is a Thatcherite.I dont think the tories have changed and if the should get in power they will continue where they left off by attacking the working class and the needy. A leopard cannot change its spots.
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Comment number 79.
At 08:44 27th Feb 2010, chris wrote:The simple answer to this is No. The next governments hands are tied with the ongoing problems associated with the Global Recession. The Tory ability to manage any significant change is further restricted by their complete lack of experience. The Tory front bench team seems to have more to do with the Old School Tie Network - than re life experience.
So in short... I wouldn't trust George Osbourne to open a crisp packet - let alone run UK public finance.
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At 08:45 27th Feb 2010, Roy wrote:How can the Tories deliver "real change" when they are Labour in disguise and have a Blair clone as their leader.
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Comment number 81.
At 08:45 27th Feb 2010, Lynn from Sussex wrote:To Rapidviking, I have lived through Labour governments which have all ended in the same way, economic disaster. This one has excelled itself. The country is bankrupt, make no mistake about it.
Prior to Margaret Thatcher the country was run by the unions and their unrealistic demands. A car industry that was churning out inferior cars that no-one wanted to buy, coal mines that were becoming uneconomic. The dead were not being buried and the Labour government had to go the IMF for the country to be bailed out.
If the current government is voted in again, God forbid, taxes will rise massively, immigration will continue, law and order and education will continue to decline, there will be no incentive for any new business to start up, hence a increase in the lack of jobs and a decrease in tax revenue.
It will not be easy under a Tory government but it will have to do what it has done before i.e. clear up yet another Labour disaster.
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Comment number 82.
At 08:47 27th Feb 2010, heraldnomore wrote:Change from what? From the pitiful wasteful inept years of the red tories, or from the legacy of sleaze of the blue tories? There is only one route to change and it comes not from the red or the blue, whipped up corrupt, self indulgent elected members. It is up to us to elect people who will make a difference, who are not intent on feathering their own nests, from our local streets to the laws of the land. Think about where you put that cross, and what the recipient can do for us all; look at the bigger picture than individual self interests. We reap what we sow and we have certainly poisoned the fields this last 30 years. Yes it is time for change, make it happen, but in the right direction. Time to work towards the ending of the union.
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Comment number 83.
At 08:48 27th Feb 2010, Christopher Barrett wrote:I feel that another 5 years of Gordon Brown and his Labour Party cronies would be a disaster for the UK which is already a very divided country, and these divisions would only get worse. This will result in more people voting for UKIP and the dreadful BNP. While there has been a world recession, his economic policies have, in my opinion, contributed to the UK's dire financial situation.
The UK under Labour has seen one's personal liberties being whittled down while, at the same time, they are too soft on crime. They will not give homeowners more rights to defend their homes, something that the Conservatives propose to do.
However, I did not like Britain under Margaret Thatcher and, should the Conservatives win power, I hope that they can offer something more positive and start listening to the people. Maybe a hung parliament is a good thing.
Politics in the UK needs to be different. Politicians, especially the Labour lot, must stop behaving in such an arrogant way and believing that they are superior to everyone else.
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Comment number 84.
At 08:48 27th Feb 2010, androstempest wrote:It is JUST a slogan. Cameron has no more intentions of making a positive change to Britain than he has intentions of changing himself into a woman. Don't be fooled by this, he's trying to pull the same stunt Blare did in 97. NuTory is still Tory and they will make exactly the same mistakes they made in the 80's.
As #65 Tim points out, it was the Tories that started the process of nationalisation, it was under the Tories that we had unemployment at over 4 million.
Swapping the Party in Power is not a magic wand, it will not fix anything.
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Comment number 85.
At 08:51 27th Feb 2010, Syed A Mateen Karachi Pakistan wrote:Labour Party’s slogan ‘A future fair for all’ is less meaningless than Conservative Party’s slogan ‘Vote for Change’.
In the forthcoming elections, majority of the voters will be attracted by the Conservative Party’s slogan ‘Vote for Change”.
Let’s presume that Conservatives win the election and form the government, the real question behind the miseries of UK’s voters is: Can Conservatives bring a Change?
A change in the government cannot bring change in the system with change of the faces. If the system cannot be improved and economy is unable to boost, people remain unemployed than what is the need to bring ‘change’?
Let the Labour Party remain in the government, as Mr. David Brow and his colleagues have been working hard to tackle and address the real issues faced by the British Voters. In case if Conservatives won the election and make a new government, they will have to start from the scratch, which will again take years to accomplish the goals and targets set by the Conservatives.
In any case, British Voters know better than me what the ground realities are? A change just for the sake of change does not mean any thing to me.
The bottom line should be: Will quality of life of an average Briton change in UK with the change of the government or not? If not, than why should people make such a futile exercise, which cannot yield better results than before?
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Comment number 86.
At 08:51 27th Feb 2010, David Urquhart wrote:The only change Big Dave could bring to the UK is a change in hair style. His policies, if they qualify as such, are flash in the pan, poll driven, opportunistic and short term. He spends most of his days attempting to be all things to all men - At least with Gordon Brown, love or hate, you know what you're getting.
I fear the day "light weight David Cameron" (As Obama called him) becomes PM on this country.
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Comment number 87.
At 08:51 27th Feb 2010, Boyd wrote:The fact is the Tory philosophy and everything they stood for has been updated by New Labour ... They have no ideas ... Their politics are firmly based in the past and have no relevance today
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Comment number 88.
At 08:53 27th Feb 2010, Dave wrote:Surely this is a non question. Should it not be 'who in their right mind wants the current shambles to continue'.
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Comment number 89.
At 08:53 27th Feb 2010, Merv Rogers wrote:I fail to see how Cameron can chastise Labour about the widening gap between rich and poor but at the same time cling stubbornly to a policy of protecting the wealth of a few hyper-rich. I will consider only voting for parties that are genuine about the redistribution of wealth and that will, in my view mean serious changes to taxation which is grossly unfair to PAYE payers at the moment. We desparately need to move to a system whereby everyone is pulling in the same direction. At the moment the country is run like Dickensian childrens home with the fortunate few keeping the many down in their place. Britain will not be Great again in that way!
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Comment number 90.
At 08:53 27th Feb 2010, jrules0193 wrote:How can the party deliver real change when the party itself has not changed at all. It is still the party for the rich as it is offering tax cuts to the very wealthy yet want to scrap child benefits for middle incomes. They want to put the economy at risk by cutting public spending this year which could take us back into recession. This may be change but it is still the same old conservative party- disasterous policies.
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Comment number 91.
At 08:53 27th Feb 2010, ColinWhinger wrote:For the main in the street, we currently have the best of three, if you think that labour is bad just look at the options and consider the thought of living off soundbites and subsidising the very rich even more, i think not. The tories are as ready as they have NEVER been.
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Comment number 92.
At 08:53 27th Feb 2010, Steve Miller wrote:I do not believe the Conservatives will be too much different from Labour and I particularly distrust Cameron as a Prime Minister. In the past, I've found him too quick to change his stance to suit what he perceives people want to hear - not good enough. I'd like a PM to possess a spine.
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Comment number 93.
At 08:55 27th Feb 2010, John Stratford wrote:Not under this leadership! The current Conservative party is difficult to distinguish from Labour. There is in reality no party committed to the virtues of self help, personal accountability, responsibility for one's actions, family values, the ending of benefit & hand-out dependency, opposition to the morass of PC legislation, a pride in being English ( not separatist Scots, Welsh or Irish who I wish well in their independence) and not wishing to see our culture and way of life subjugated by minority & alien ways of life and culture. A life long moderate Conservative I'll be making a protest vote at the next election before finally ending my days living abroad in a country who knows who it is, expects people living there to follow their way of life and is justifiably proud of it - France. There is little left in the UK to either be proud of or value. It's gone too far for the current Conservative leadership to fix and Labour thinks the destruction of decent society is OK. The fact the UK is 'broken' beyond repair hardly merits any concern. We are a nation obsessed by trivia & mindless drivel.
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Comment number 94.
At 08:57 27th Feb 2010, samwise wrote:'Vote for change' No Thanks Mr Cameron. I remember previous conservative changes and i would never trust another conservative government to run this country. The idea of them changing the welfare state fills me with fear! This Labour Government has flaws but i trust them not to turn their backs on the needy.
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Comment number 95.
At 08:59 27th Feb 2010, ThoughtCrime wrote:A huge step backwards would make sense.
Back to the days when burglary was punished more severely than parking offences.
Back to the days when children went to school to actually learn, and the rights of the many outweighed the rights of the one oik to "express himself".
Back to the days when teenage mothers weren't rewarded for having endless children they couldn't support.
Back to the days before Gordon Brown turned a complex tax system into an insanely complex system. Back to a simple tax allowance rather than a scheme that takes money away from you, then lets you apply for some of it back but then taxes the part it gave back again.
Back to the days when we didn't have councils employing huge numbers of people to do useless non-jobs at public expense. We managed just fine without 5-a-day outreach coordinates and diversity awareness managers then, we can manage just fine without them now. We can also manage with council tax cut back to 1997 levels as a result.
Oh yes, and back to the days when we didn't have hordes of ambulance-chasing lawyers advertising on daytime TV.
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Comment number 96.
At 08:59 27th Feb 2010, BGarvie wrote:Despite some scepticism, the Tories are the only Party that can deliver change. The present Government have failed in everything and have run out of ideas, hope, money and time and the Lib/Dems will never be a powerful force in UK politics. That leaves David Cameron and his team to come in and act as 'Receivers of bankrupt UK Ltd'. They must salvage what assets remain and sharpen up the economy. Otherwise the pound will go down the tubes and leave everyone worse off. Brown & Darling have been operating the economics of the lunatic asylum.
This Government have ruined our pensions, ruined our savings, ruined our jobs, ruined our businesses, ruined the economy and ruined our standard of living. The country is in a dire state with an unsustainable £848 BILLION Government debt, and the electorate sick of witnessing the many business closures and the massive rise in unemployment (2.6 million). Additionally there are 2.8 million left with only part time work that could soon be terminated. This is no way to govern a country. Times are desperate and must change.
David Cameron and his team are the only Party to offer hope for the future. Whatever they offer to do will be better than keeping dusfunctional Labour in power. That would be a definite recipe for disaster and despair.
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Comment number 97.
At 09:00 27th Feb 2010, Peter Bridgemont wrote:All this user's posts have been removed.Why?
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Comment number 98.
At 09:02 27th Feb 2010, England is Ruined wrote:I really cannot stand Gordon Brown and NuLabour. They have destroyed this once great country.
I had hoped the Conservatives would be a viable alternative. However, there is no chance I will be voting for them. Cameron reneged on his promise to hold an E.U. referendum.
Like Blair & Brown before him, he is micro managing everything, e.g. checking all leaflets being distributed in the constituancies, foisting A list pro-discriminated candidate lists on Conservative Party Associations.
He won't discuss the huge elephant in the room - immigration. He is vague about policies, changing his mind constantly.
I have emailed him twice, without response. I see him as a useless alternative to Brown and am not surprised the poll lead has sunk to hung Parliament territory.
Cameron is trying to be all things to all men and is treading on eggs in an attempt to keep everyone on side, but is failing to do so and is alienating everyone instead.
As a protest vote I voted BNP in the Euro elections, as did a million or so others.
I will use my vote to protest again against the main parties who are just clones of one another. If a BNP candidate is standing that will be where my vote goes, failing that it will go to UKIP.
Wake up Cameron - you still have time to pull it around, but not the way you are going at present.
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Comment number 99.
At 09:04 27th Feb 2010, steve wrote:They can't even deliver an accurate picture of David Cameron.
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Comment number 100.
At 09:04 27th Feb 2010, Robert Moore wrote:Is the change going to be what's left of my income.
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