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| Tuesday, 2 July, 2002, 11:07 GMT 12:07 UK ICC: Can it work without America? The International Criminal Court (ICC) starts work in The Hague on Monday. The tribunal, the first in the world, which has been ratified by more than 70 countries, will have power to try individuals for crimes committed anywhere in the world. However, hours ahead of the court's opening, the US vetoed the renewal of the UN mission in Bosnia over concerns that its peacekeepers could be prosecuted by the ICC. The country says it fears that the court will infringe US sovereignty and that American troops could become the target of politically motivated prosecutions. But experts say America's concerns are groundless, because the court will only deal with cases that domestic courts are unable or unwilling to handle. Do you agree with the Americans that the ICC could undermine international sovereignty? Or should the US support the court? Could the tribunal work without America? This debate is now closed. See below for a selection of your comments.
Philip Ross, England Any country should think very seriously about subjecting its citizens to a potential lynch mob (kangaroo court). The Australian government is also unwilling at this stage to ratify an international court. The United States refusal to be part of the ICC is a prime example of George W Bush's innate inability to grasp the principles of international policy.
Milan, Serbia & Montenegro The world cannot wait for the US to join the ICC. There is a dire humanitarian need to stop atrocities happening around the world. The process has to start and in time the ICC mandate will be recognised globally if it performs well. The ICC answers to no particular sovereign country. There is no direct check on its power and no actual system of appeal. There is no guarantee that the judges will be impartial and no remedy if they are not impartial. And yet people wonder why America would be hesitant to join?!
A K, Denmark If the rest of the world took care of its own backyard, the United States wouldn't have to police the world. We don't need to be judged by European liberals who whine and cry about the death penalty and other effective means of punishment. If you want us to take care of your problems, then leave us alone to get the job done. Most US citizens don't want US troops overseas babysitting your countries and taking care of your problems anyway. How about just saying "thank you".
Daniel Hilliard, USA Under the law of the jungle, the strongest prevail. Those of us who believe that everyone should be equal before the law must work hard to make sure the court is a success and is not ruined by the wild west cowboys. There's a bit of confusion about the world court. The US is something of a democracy, among many in the world. The world as a whole, however, is not. The overwhelming majority of Americans would rise in rebellion against any government that made our citizens subject to judges from such defenders of due process as China, Nigeria, or Saudi Arabia. The ICC is just another political forum. If a particular case rises to the point of needing an international court then one can be convened for special cases as happens now. A permanent one will only lead to these political abuses. My guess is that US refusal to participate in the International Criminal Court will take little from the court's credibility and a lot from the US credibility.
Manu, Belgium This is just another blatant case of the USA riding roughshod over the principles of democracy which it expects the rest of the civilised world to adhere to. Complete double standards in my book and another frightening reminder of how far removed the world's only remaining superpower has become from the moral high ground. Who decides what a 'case', is? The nations that have a grudge against the US? Then we can expect daily indictments, and even if the cases are baseless, every one will be a propaganda coup for nations which have been seething over the US for involvement or lack of involvement on some or other issue for a long time. If the court only deals with cases that domestic laws can't or won't handle, then by definition isn't the ICC designed to supersede national sovereignty? No country, even the US, should be above international law, and this court is good start to enforce that ideal. | See also: 01 Jul 02 | Americas 01 Jul 02 | In Depth 20 Jun 02 | Americas 11 Apr 02 | Europe Internet links: The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites Top Talking Point stories now: Links to more Talking Point stories are at the foot of the page. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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