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| Tuesday, 18 June, 2002, 08:55 GMT 09:55 UK Birthday honours: What do you think? Artist Peter Blake, Rolling Stone Mick Jagger and Newcastle United boss Bobby Robson have been knighted in the Queen's Birthday Honours. Retired BBC Radio 4 broadcaster Sue MacGregor and writer Sebastian Faulks are among those to receive the CBE. Fashion designer Caroline Charles and actor David Suchet are given an OBE. Others featuring on the list are theatre director Trevor Nunn, playwright Harold Pinter and former newspaper editor Max Hastings. Lesser-known people to be honoured include Molly Badham, director of Twycross Zoo, and headteacher Robert Dowling. What do you think of the birthday honours list? Who would you like to see nominated next time round? This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below. Your reaction
James King, England Re Sir Mick. I would like to nominate my cat Stouffer for a knighthood. He's old, grizzled, makes a dreadful noise, and has fathered many children. I think people who already get paid gratuitously for what they do in the public eye should NOT receive honours. We seem to have forgotten the daily toil of ordinary public workers, like teachers who rarely receive such honours. I was delighted that the work of David Suchet was honoured. Mick Jagger too, who has put so much spirit in his performances over the years was long overdue for this honour. I fid it very sad that people like Sean Connery and Mick Jagger can spend their lives attacking 'the Establishment' and then accept honours. We should consider Keith Richard, for services to rehab clinics. My Mother's goldfish which can swim upside down and myself who can whistle the National Anthem backwards whilst walking a tightrope forwards and vice versa.
Roy Jamieson, Australia Just read some more on the honours list. Seems you can get a knighthood if you "curry" favour with the right people!! They held up Sean Connery's honour because he was outspoken about Scottish independence, now they're giving an honour to someone with an admitted drug history... as said elsewhere. These honours no longer have any real meaning, so demeaning for those who have worked really hard, without profit, for society, to see an overpaid "celebrity" get a knighthood when they have to settle for OBEs....
Michael Adam, UK Nobody deserves a knighthood more than Bobby Robson, a true gentleman and a skilled manager - perfect timing. Honouring Mick Jagger with a knighthood is simply ridiculous. It looks as if the Crown has become obsessed with the type of star-obsessed behaviour that Number 10 did long ago. The honour should have been given to Jerry Hall, for putting up with Mick's nonsense all these years. Dame Hall, is what I say.
Steve Smith, UK For Mick Jagger to get a Knighthood, for services to popular music is diabolical. Yes, he is a talented fellow in that sense, but the escapades in his personal life, far outweigh his professional life. And, sadly, that's what people associate Mr Jagger with: his escapades with members of the female sex. There was only one knighthood that was truly deserved in the list, that of Bobby Robson for his 50 year contribution to the beautiful game! A fantastic manager, and a gentleman, Arise Sir Bobby, Richly deserved! There was a time when this list was important, and it was an honour when such things were bestowed. Sadly we now see all and sundry being given all sorts of honours, and that means that it is now cheapened, and, in my view, rather tacky. I believe that the number of honours should be drastically cut so that their worth improves. We need to see a restoration of the decency which once surrounded such things as this. And, while I am highly unlikely to ever be honoured, one could respect the ones who are. It seems to be getting so bad now that it is an honour NOT to have a title. One does not, after all, want to just be one of the crowd.
Richard Batchelor, Wales It makes a nonsense of the knighthoods to see people like Jagger receive this title. I want to hear more about the honest hard working and charitable people in our country and to see their like get proper recognition for their life's work. Those receiving Knighthoods are supposed to be of the highest calibre morally, and one can't really attribute those characteristics to Mick Jagger. The only reason he was given a knighthood is because he is a friend of Tony Blair's who was crazy about this rocker when the latter was a university student. Mick Jagger? I don't get it. I thought there were some rules. Either the Establishment has sold out or he has. I'd respect him a lot more if he refused the knighthood, and I'd respect the government a lot more if they had some principles to stick to. He's a great artist, but he has been for at least 35 years. And since when has talent alone been a qualification for a knighthood? He doesn't live in the UK and he doesn't pay UK taxes - isn't that supposed to make him ineligible for honours?
Steve Chisholm, U.K. Arise Sir Bobby. A long time overdue. So Mick Jagger is "delighted" to be given a knighthood. Pass the sick bag, please! It makes me want to puke when "anti establishment" rock stars of Jagger's ilk sell out like this. This is the guy who has made a career out of being - or pretending to be - an anarchist (not to mention an antichrist). Now, having amassed his fortune, this phoney rebel has revealed himself to be every bit as "straight" and conservative as the people he purported to despise all these years. Come back John Lennon, all is forgiven! Although I do have reservations about the continued relevance of an honours system, I do recognise that it is a good way to acknowledge exceptional contributions to the country. Therefore, I don't feel that media and music stars very often deserve them. I would like to see more 'ordinary' people celebrated.
HL, Britain Including the director of Huntingdon Life Sciences and a prominent Labour party donor demeans the honours system and detracts from the honours given to those who deserve them. The honours system in principle is still valid, even in today's society. The only negative is still the system is biased in favour of those of the "elite" or celebrity status. So a football manager gets a knighthood for doing a job which is high profile, well paid, respected (among football fans) and a queue of people would be willing to do yet, those individuals who give tireless service, in the jobs that not only people don't want but when they do are paid a pittance are lucky to get a "gong". This is still an example of what's wrong with the honours system. There is no balance between true service to your country and fellow man and being already fortunate enough to be in the right level of society. As for Mick Jagger's comments re the England team, case in point, highly paid, highly rated yet if they win this tournament doing that thankless task of "playing a game of football" they should be knighted? It's a funny old world (or should that be game.) | Top Talking Point stories now: Links to more Talking Point stories are at the foot of the page. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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