Luton Town FC

What do you think of the new plans for Luton Town?

Sid King
I can't see a pig flying over the new stadium

A Realist
This Warehousing/Stadium proposal is first and foremost a major money making proposition for a few individuals who care little for the environment they propose to develop and even less for the football club they are using to further line their pockets. The residents of Toddington and Harlington, together with the supporters of Luton Town F.C. deserve better.

Martin
Haven't people realised that this isn't about LTFC. It is as usual about manking the directors and ex directors wealthier, land that is currently worth £100k suddenly, with planning permission for warehousing, worth £40Million. The football stadium (and club) are not the primary reasons for this development and they will be ignored and discarded just as before. Until we see real committment from our directors in terms of putting money where there mouths are LTFC will remain in the lower divisions or bankrupt. People should ask how much money has been committed to buying top players, the answer is no committment! Just false hopes - A new board is required who care about LTFC and not about increasing their own personal wealth.

Richard
I do feel sorry for the residents of Toddington, but this will be the best thing that could ever happen to Luton Town FC if it does happen at J12. I would have preferred J10, but the club can't stay at Kenilworth Road any longer.However, as others have said - we've had far too many false dawns on a new stadium in the past; I'll believe it when I see it with my own eyes!

neil
I think it would be good for the club and the town to get the new stadium. I have hoped that they would build it at j10 but as a luton fan it would just be great to get a new stadium any where in or as near as they can to luton. I hope its not a let down again other wise it will be another 10 to 20 years before they even think about it again and we have been waiting for far too long. if there is to be any kind of future for luton town fc they need a new start and a new stadium will give them that

exile in blackpool
my first game at the kenny was in 85 micky knocked the utd defence over the way only he could .since then a roof on the kenny,plastic ,excective boxes and the imaginatily named new stand are the only changes to an out of date stadium .a move a few miles out of town to secure the future of our great club shouldnt be an isue 4 real fans will realise this .i have to do a 6 hour round trip for home games and dont complain.

Andy, Luton
MK Hatter - you are quite correct, LTFC do need a new ground to secure the long-term future of the club. All this development will do will be to secure the long-term futures of Messrs Bassett, Pinkney, Mitchell et al. Despite what Jayten might have you believe, LTFC will be little or no better off from this development - indeed removing the club from its community is likely to significantly outweigh any such befeits that may accrue.And, now that the airport expansion plans have been shelved, even Jayten cannot pretend that there are no longer any suitable sites in Luton. Who knows, maybe one day everyone involved might put their own personal greed and ego aside and find a solution that is, first and foremost, in the interests of LTFC. That certainly won't happen whilst people blindly follow and accept everything that the likes of John Mitchell tell them. Sadly, I fear that far too many are prepared to do exactly that.

G Neal
I object to the proposed re-location of Luton FC to Junction 12 of the M1. This is a greenbelt area and is totally unsuited to the proposed development-IT SHOULD BE REJECTED IN ITS ENTIRETY. If Luton want a new stadium then build it in Luton on a brownfield site not near or around junction 10. This is a formal objection

susan church
My daughter has had to pay a premium price for a house in a village called Toddington simply to get away from the Luton Football Club at Dallow Road, Luton. It was absolutely harendous, police on horseback, helicopters and police with trungens etc. because of the riots, crime and drunks that went along with the Football Club so do you really think that she wants to be living near that same Football Club again - the answer is a 100% NO. She also has fields at the front of her house and, again does not wish to look at the club together with all the development that will go along with it. Are we not supposed to have a certain amount of greenbelt in this world without taking it up again with concrete ? Also where would the other "slip road" go ? I am sure there will be one and will that be going through Toddington as well ? Why not make an already busy road riduclously busy. There would have to be another road otherwise the motorway will get blocked up. Perhaps our money would be best spent on trying to save the plant and keeping greenbelt instead of how big a concrete complex we can build at whatever cost to others. I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THIS BUILD WITH A VENGANCE.

MK Hatter
We need a new ground to secure the long-term future of the club! Lets get behind these plans and the new guys and give them a chance! Blackwell also deserves a chance to show what he can do with his own players & ideas. I know we've been let down in the past by idiots but its time to move on and look to the future! Come on you Hatters!

Nick
Luton needs a new stadium the old one is totally nasty, and if we are to see Luton Town in the premiership why not let it happen in a new stadium

George Neal
If Luton want a football club it is up to Luton to find a suitable area within Luton to construct such a site. Toddington is outside Luton surrounded y greenbelt and God willing will remain so. The area is not suitable for such a grand scale plan. Further there are proposals to construct a new interchange between road (M1) and rail (new station) near Charlton with the down grading of the existing Junction 12 thereby making it nonsensical to create a white elephant within inappropriate access. I therefore strongly object to your proposals.

dan fennell
waste of time wont ever happen

lars in somerset
crossed fingers alot of luckcome on you hattersget mick harford back and blackwell out,he has never done the business in management and with a poor budget he has no chance of the team going up, but lets get behind the lads

Steve Cox - Hampshire Hatter
I have supported Luton since my first game as an 8 year old on Boxing Day 1962. We have always had more than our fair share of negative miserable supporters. I left St. Albans and moved to Denmead Hants in 1987. I still come back to support the Town as often as possible, a 200 mile round trip. If the narrow minded people (I cant call them "supporters") cannot accept a trip of a couple of miles to support the Town, then they really should stay away, we don't need them. Lets all get behind David Pinkney, Kevin Blackwell and John Mitchell (Who I have known since we were kids!)and do our bit to lift the club. I'll be coming to the first game of the season battling my way around the M25 as usual as I believe in what I'm hearing from the new board and management.

Hitchin Hatter
Interesting comment from Pinkney at the executive box meeting last night where he commented that he would like to take a BASEBALL BAT to the next LLSC and TIL meeting!!!!!!!! And they call us hooligans????? not sure if this is the man i want running my club......

Rob
Dave - you may be suprised that not all those who have left comments that you view as negative are supporters to begin with. A high rise development of nearly a square mile affects many more people than have or will ever support LTFC, whether they do so blindly like you do, or with a realistic understanding of the regional planning environment and awareness that their club is just being used as a Trojan horse. This isn't a forum just for "supporters" but for residents of Bedfordshire as a whole.

Tony
The pictures are very nice but the structure seems to be about 9 or 10 storeys high, it will dominate the local landscape together with 200 acres covered by 4 massive warehouses totalling the size of 21 football pitches as shown on the plan on Rosemounds website. This is so over the top that there is no question that it will be fought all the way by the local communities it would blight

Slim, MK
Good luck with building the stadium. I hope there will be arrangements to help fans get there. It'll be closer to my house in Milton Keynes than to Luton airport! But living in MK, following Luton is the only realistic choice I have. Very best of luck to the board. Fingers crossed that you can deliver what you want for us. But while you are here - PLEASE TAKE CARE OF OUR CLUB!

Dave
Well done to all those who've left negative comments below, the world is truely a better place with you guys. Please don't bother coming to games next season, supporters seats are for supporters. Check the dictionary for the definition! Come On Luton! :-)

Tez
I have spent 35 years following the Town. I'll believe it when I park my bum on a seat.

marcus bossendorfer
when i left bedford 23 years ago they were saying exactly the same thing.thank god i moved to plymouth!

hollandaise
Come on you fans lets get behind the new chairman .What is the point of harping on about what hasn,t happened in the past the future is now not yesterday.

Danny the Hatter
We are a joke. This will never happen and I hope it doesn't. What is the point in having a stadium like that when we'll never fill it as the highest we're ever likely to be is a mid-table Championship side.

Jean Abbott
I am outraged that they can even consider building this monstrosity in or near greenbelt land. This is a rural area, why should we have to put up with the disruption of thousands of football supporters trying to get here?

Peterborough Hatter
In an ideal world the stadium would be within Luton, but it isn't going to happen. Most people I know who support the club live away from the town now anyway, it certainly wouldn't stop me coming. The enthusiasm coming from the new manager and chairman is something we should all take on board. They actually sound like they know what they're doing for once as well!

???
Luton needs a new stadium the old one is totally nasty, and if we are to see Luton Town in the premiership why not let it happen in a new stadium

Harlington Man
Lovely artists impression...looks idylic..but oh what about the 1 square mile of enabling warehouses and oh the little matter of Harlington & Toddington. These villages pre date the Norman Conquest..WE WILL NOT BE AIRBRUSHED AWAY !Rosemound should go back to Australia from where they come and speculate in their own banckyard and ta ke Pinkney with them.

Randolph Bumbaras
I'll tell you what I think when the planning permission goes through.

Dave
A pipe dream is a fantastic hope that is generally regarded as being nearly impossible. The term derives from the mescaline pipe, which was popular in the early twentieth century. Such ideas usually need events to flow in just the right direction to be realized, as a plumbing pipe might. The probability of such a course, however, is extremely low. Misconceptions, obstacles unseen by the pipe dreamer, or simple ignorance of any issues involved are often disregarded. Also pipe dream is alluded to by the fantasies (a rather comical, yet popular, example of this is a banana hallucination which regularly gives the opium smoker bad advice) induced by smoking an opium pipe, but this term has been used more loosely since the 1800s.

Andy, Luton
Nice stadium, shame about the location and the fact that the chances of planning permission being granted are, to say the least, slim.

Harry Leonard
Just rename the club "Jongleurs" and have done.Its never going to happen. As for "a vision of seeing Luton in the Premiership" A vision?? Cloud-Cuckoo-Land more like.

Wootton Hatter
I know we may have heard some of this before but none of us will ever see a new stadium if some factions remain so pessimistic and negative. We now seem to have an enthusiastic manager who has quickly identified the vital need to strengthen youth development - the lifeblood of a club like ours. In this respect alone I’m liking what I’m hearing. All concerned now need to ensure the promising words turn into prompt, positive action.Although only time will tell we also appear to have a guy at the helm with a bit of business nous and who in his first major press conference has provided more clear thinking, a plan for the future and a structure to put it all into practice, than we have had in years. Lets hope David Pinkney is true to his words and achieves his aspirations for the club. Every aspect of the club has needed a serious overhaul for a very long time and it appears at last as though we now have some qualified, professional people determined to make every aspect of our club a more professional outfit. If everyone gets behind this vision and we are all moving in the same direction there is much less excuse or reason for it not to succeed.

Tom
Can't see 2010 season opening - the construction of the M1 widening (if it goes to plan!) is planned to start in 2009 and finish in 2011. Then all the planning issues, enquiry, etc. Will delay both schemes.

Xavier Fitzagre
Cynicism seems to be a very Lutonian trait - not suprisingly given the recent history of our major employers, our deplorable council and the football relocation saga now well into its sixth decade. I too will believe it when I see it - but this latest batch of artists impressions look good... maybe not as spectacular as the Kohlermodel... but here's eternally hoping.J12, by the way, is too far from Luton - a football club should be immersed in the community it purports to represent. If we ignore that, we may as well all support franchise football at MkDons.

ian hemmings(codicote)
to all supporters,stop moaning and get behind everbody at the football club.and support J12 its only 3 or so miles out of luton,and i live near stevenage,so get behind the hatters ,i know i am .UP THE HATTERS

Tom
It will not happen at Junction 12

Paul, Flitwick
It won't happen

Niall Kelly
I will believe it when i see it!

Amanda J - Toddington
What on earth do they need a 25,000 seat stadium for when they have been relegated? Notice no photos of the massive warehouses all around the stadium or are they hoping we won't notice them.

Phil Wain
Can i wish the new team the best and lets hope everything moves forward smoothly.