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Sports minister Kate Hoey
"I want to see a proper reasoned debate"
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Tuesday, 27 February, 2001, 10:31 GMT
Should terraces make a comeback?

Sports Minister Kate Hoey has stepped up her calls for a debate on a possible return of terraces to football grounds.

Is this a viable option, or should we heed the lessons of Hillsborough and stick to all-seater stadiums?

Tell us what you think.

HAVE YOUR SAY Hoey has asked the Football Licensing Authority to study new designs at stadiums in Germany.

Similar calls just a few months ago angered relatives of Liverpool supporters who died in the Hillsborough disaster.

But speaking to Brian Alexander's Late Night Live show on BBC Five Live on Monday, Hoey urged Premiership clubs to take a serious look at reintroducing "small standing areas".

Many clubs may be reluctant after spending millions of pounds building new all-seater stadiums in the wake of the Taylor report into the Hillsborough tragedy.

So is there a case for the return of terracing? Or would that be a backwards step? Tell us your view.HAVE YOUR SAY



My club, Bury FC, has had to spend alot of money to upgrade the ground
  Mrs Maria Hurst, England
NO NO NO. My club, Bury FC, has had to spend alot of money to upgrade the ground. What happened to rest of clubs who did not conform as they should have done within a certain time? This must not be allowed to disappear. hese clubs should be brought up-to-date or be fined, as was supposed to be the case. We do not want a repetition of Hillsborough. For those who died, let their deaths not be in vain. My club could have spent the money on better players, but, after the Taylor report and threats from the Sports Minister etc., they upgraded the club instead.
Mrs Maria Hurst, England

Let's stick with all seater. It's a safer environment to take the family to. Through the Taylor report, clubs are building new, cleaner, safer and friendlier football stadiums. If this report hadn't been produced I think some grounds would still be crumbling around our feet and resembling ruins of latter years.
Geoff, UK

I had several frightening experiences during the 70's on the terraces. Yes, it is an exciting experience but also a dangerous environment. Although I'm over six foot and 14st. I struggled pinned against barriers at Old Trafford, found myself confronted by missile throwing hooligans at St. Andrews and was showered with Newcastle Brown Bottles at Newcastle. Yes it was an experience but one I am hopeful to say I won't have to go through again, in order to enjoy a match.
R Lewis, UK


It would certainly improve the atmosphere at some grounds
  Danny Lloyd, Liverpool
The tragedy that occured at Hillsborough was not the fault of the fans, was it? I think that top clubs should be given the option whether they want a certain part of their stadium terraced. I would think it would need a trial run first. I know in Holland they have been successful with replacing an area of the seated area with terracing. It would certainly improve the atmosphere at some grounds.
Danny Lloyd, Liverpool, UK

Grounds have certainly improved tenfold from the 'dirty pits' they were in the 1980s, but one of the major casualties of 1990s football has been the scrapping of terraces at top-flight stadia. People want standing areas back, there is support for this. Safe terraces should be brought back to Premiership stadia. I get cold when I have to sit on a seat for 45 minutes non-stop! With terraces you can move about and not get cramp!
Mark Hemingway, UK

There is no such thing as safe terracing! All-seater stadia, by their nature, have helped to restrict the potential for crowd disturbances in a way that terraces could not. Why on earth do we want to turn the clock back at this stage?
Stephen, Ireland

Hillsborough, Heysel, Bradford and Bastia. Why can't we accept that it is not money that should be considered first, but safety to the fans? If we kill the fans, we kill the beuatiful game.
Mal, UK


Whoever brings back standing terraces should be made to stand on them week after week
  Mal Walker, Australia
I wonder how many hours, weeks or months Ms. Hoey has stood in the pouring rain in a puddle of icy water watching football? In fact, when was the last game she sat in luxury in a VIP box? Whoever brings back standing terraces should be made to stand on them week after week.
Mal Walker, Australia

Terracing should be reintoduced. The atmosphere at most grounds is terrible. As a Manchester United fan I am appalled at the atmosphere at Old Trafford. You would think there were Six thousand at the game, never mind sixty seven thousand. It is all due to all-seater stadiums. Of course the amount of people allowed onto the terraces should be limited for safety's sake. Liverpool's Kop is nothing like it used to be and Highbury has been renamed the library! Singing and chanting are all part of what makes the game so good. At the moment the clubs charge twenty pounds to sit on piece of plastic!
David Hunt, U.S.A

Bring back terraces now. We don't need huge open end terracing, but smaller enclosures where like minded fans, especially youngsters, can get together with their friends on matchday and create the fantastic atmosphere grounds like Anfield and Old Trafford, were world renowned for. All-seater stadia, coupled with the exhorbitant ticket prices, will be the death knell of the sport once Sky packs it's bags in the not so distant future. We need to provide terraces so the young and not-so-well-off can ensure the game has a bright future.
Dave P, UK


A return to terracing would be very negative and a step backwards
  Alex, England
The introduction of all-seater stadia has reduced hooliganism in the grounds and created a much safer environment for women and children. Football has been brought out of the 'dark-ages' since the Taylor Report, making the game the commercial success it is today. A return to terracing would be very negative and a step backwards.
Alex, England

On the day of the Hillsborough tragedy I was at Villa Park at the other semi. We were repeatedly crushed against the barriers when the ball came near the goal. Younger, older & weaker folk were really struggling. Later, seeing what had happened at the other match was then made frighteningly understandable. Bringing back the terraces is simply idiotic.
Chris, England

There is no such thing as safe terracing! All-seater stadia, by their nature, have helped to restrict the potential for crowd disturbances in a way that terraces could not. Why on earth do we want to turn the clock back at this stage?
Stephen, Ireland


Standing resulted in poor views and crushing at the best of times
  Dave, England
I've recently been to a rugby match with 20,000 people, of which only 5,000 were seated. I can't see where the problem is with standing areas. Hillsborough was due to the installation of perimeter fencing which prevented people spilling onto the pitch.
dave, UK

Consider carefully where football was only a decade ago. Crowd numbers were falling, family attendances unheard of, running fights between gangs of rival supporters and the police a weekly article on the news. In fact it was rare to have a Saturday evening news broadcast without reports of violence and thuggery. It took a coordinated effort form the clubs, their real supporters and the cooperation of the press in not reporting these unwanted events to make hooliganism socially reprehensible - and now you want to bring it all back by arguing for the return of the hooligans breeding ground? Get a grip.
Mark Garrad, Australia

Surely it's no longer a matter of "if" terracing should return to the Premiership. My team, Fulham are hopefully destined for the Premiership and have already been given the go ahead to play top flight matches at Craven Cottage next season. It will be interesting to see how the rest of football reacts if Fulham do play a season of Premiership matches at the Cottage with no problems.
Dave Hurd, England


Hillsborough cannot be used forever as the justification for stopping fans from watching football the way that many of us prefer
  Jon, England
Standing resulted in poor views and crushing at the best of times. And what about the clubs that have risked financial security in order to accommodate all-seater stadia?
Dave, England

Terraces are not a danger to fans. Idiocy by some fans, lack of investment on infrastructure and poor policing were at the base of the Heysel tragedy. Terraces would increase attendance and help poorer clubs get hardly needed extra cash from high profile games. Standing up or sitting down you still get trampled by the crowd.
Giovanni Calzetti, Italy

The lessons to be learned form the Hillsborough tragedy was that massive old-style terracing coupled with perimeter fencing are a fatal combination. Kate Hoey is not asking for a return to the old days, but a move forward to an absolutely safe and BRAND NEW method of attending football. Nobody wants to see a return to the old-style terraces and that will never happen. The suggestion is that safe and controlled terracing can and must exist.
Daryl, UK

Most supporters want them back. So why not?
Pete, UK


Standing up or sitting down you still get trampled by the crowd
  Giovanni Calzetti, Italy
Bring back terraces ASAP, and let more fans into big games. Remember, Hillsborough could still have happened if there were seats in the enclosure. It's other measures that have made grounds infinitely safer.
Keith, England

I was at Hillsborough, in the Forest end. I readily acknowledge that Hillsborough was a tragedy that no one wants to see repeated. It was not simply terracing that caused the problems. Drink, late arrivals and poor policing all played their part too. Hillsborough cannot be used forever as the justification for stopping fans from watching football the way that many of us prefer - standing up.

Whenever anything worth seeing in a game happens the crowd stand up anyway. Millions of people attended games for many decades prior to Hillsborough without injury and stood on the terraces. The atmosphere was better and it was cheaper to get in.
Jon, England

Her comments are a disgrace. Are 96 deaths not enough her! It is bad enough that the rest of Europe hasn't learnt from the disasters that struck in the 80's (Heysel was also part-due to a crumbling old stadium). When will people learn that safety is paramount, even to atmosphere and costs?
Rob, England

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