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Monday, 11 December, 2000, 13:02 GMT
Can England now be a world-class force ?
English cricket's greatest victory?
England have triumphed over adversity to break Pakistan's stranglehold in Karachi.

Nasser Hussain's team enjoyed their first series victory against Pakistan since 1962.

Are England now a cricketing force on the world stage or have they still to prove their worth?

Tell us what you think?

HAVE YOUR SAY

In their first tour of Pakistan for 13 years, Nasser Hussain and his team took a long-awaited series victory.

Not since Ted Dexter's first tour in 1962 has a series on Pakistani soil ended in England's favour.

England's chances only turned in the final hours to grant their series win.

But now the team have now notched three successive series victories following wins over Zimbabwe and the West Indies.

So are England now a world-class force or are they yet to sustain the form and consistency to prove they are world-beaters?

And will the real test of England's turnaround be the Ashes next year?

Tell us what you think.

HAVE YOUR SAY


Sorry, but any cricket result, especially in India/Pakistan has to be tainted by the suspicion that bookmakers have had more influence over the result than the players. I would love to think England could become a world cricket power. I will believe it possible when they have beaten the Aussies and hold the Ashes.
Ben Thomas, New Zealand

A marvellous result for England, following a great victory over the West Indies. However, if we are to give Australia a run for their money, England must learn to score their runs more quickly. 300, rather than 180, is par for the course for a truly world class team.
Max Moore, England

England are starting to show the kind of determination required to get to the top. But there's still a big leap for them up to the top where the South Africans and the Australians reside.
Martin Webster, New Zealand


Teams do not become a world force overnight
  Shanmuga Raja, India
Today's side contains many of the same cricketers that we were deriding just a couple of years ago. Although their technique may have improved somewhat in the intervening period, it seems that the major improvement has been 'between the ears'. Duncan Fletcher deserves the greatest accolade for transforming these apparent no-hopers into competitive, committed, mentally resilient and confident players able to compete with the best.
Peter Styles, England

England a world force in cricket, don't make me laugh. A single Test series win can never be used to measure the strength of a team. Teams do not become a world force overnight.
Shanmuga Raja, India

We have learned a great deal about mental stamina in the win aganst Pakistan, an aspect absent in many England teams in the past. If this can be continued, this belief that the game is not over until the last ball is bowled, we can be a great side again. The recent rise of New Zealand is testament to the difference a new mentality can make to the same squad. Keep up the good work.
Jackson, Manchester, England

England have a way to go before we could be classed as one of the top international teams. They have a good solid backbone of a team now, and have at last found what they have long needed, an intelligent and strong captain and a classy all-rounder. As for Australia and this seemingly easy Ashes victory everyone talks about - well they're rubbish aren't they, what have they done really, apart form set the world record for consecutive Test victories and win the World Cup.
Big Vern, England

Beating Pakistan on their own turf is a big achievement for any country, but getting an idea of being a world power again should be avoided. There is still a long way to go.
Ashish, USA

After so many defeats and batting collapses in the past it's quite amazing that we have beaten Pakistan. So we don't stand a chance and can't play spin, eh Wasim? Yeah, right. Don't forget that we beat South Africa in England a couple of years ago too. England may not yet be world beaters but we are on the up and up so look out.
Chris, USA

Well done England on a superb performance, it now looks like the team have the mental strength to carry on improving to their long forgotten greatness.
Graham, England


There is still along way to go
  Ashish, USA
Great result but in the pecking order we have shown only equal grit and ability to Pakistan. We will have to raise it for the Aussies. But bring them on.
Mike Harlow, UK

Here we go again. England are scraping the barrel, they win a game and now they are world beaters again. You've got to love this place. Bring on the Aussies or South Africa and then we'll see. Keep dreaming boys. One victory does not make you the best team in the world.
Andrew Mackenzie, South Africa

I think England can once more be a strong team. For me they are favourites for the next World Cup because they have a talented one day team that is improving every day. The cricket world will be so much better if England find their old form.
Umar, Pakistan

Well done to the whole team - you've restored my hope in English cricket. Australia's a tough prospect, but we'll sure as hell give them a run for their money next year - at home, no injuries, Hussain back to form, good weather - who knows? With this team and the crowd behind them we could just be looking at recovering the Ashes next summer.
Mark Woolley, England

A truly great victory for England, proving conclusively that they rank as one of the greatest sides in the world - well led, well motivated and allowing the talent to flow - congratulations to our boys
Shaukat Tola, UK

Respect is due for an outstanding performance in Pakistan. But remember the backbone of the side (Athers, Stewart, Gough, Caddick, Hussain, Thorpe) are all over 30 and coming to the end of their careers. In order to maintain our newfound position as real contenders in world cricket, youngsters of a similar standard must be found soon. And I suspect Australia will still be too strong next summer.
BB, UK

They are now contenders at the highest level and will at least fight back when things go wrong.
Noel Gilzean, england


We could just be looking at recovering the Ashes next summe
  Mark Woolley, England
I would like to suggest caution to those wishing to elevate England towards the top of the world rankings just yet. The team who have done well recently need to prove themselves against Australia and South Africa. Also since reaching all time lows last year a consistent level of performance is needed for them to be truly recognised as a great side.
Robert Bailey, USA

Australia are still several players better than England are throughout the team, while South Africa, New Zealand and India would probably still win home series against us, if not away series, since they all have greater consistency and are less prone to middle order collapses.

That said, England have improved and are apparently less suspect in the middle order, while they are apparently of an altogether tougher mindset. They will need that against the Australians next year.
Roche John, Belgium

Great victory, that confirms the beginning of the rebuilding of character and confidence under Nasser Hussain's leadership. The real test will be against the two Southern Hemisphere giants Australia and South Africa. At this level it is as much about confidence as technique and I will back them at home for the Ashes.
Chris Lawrence, UK

What goes down must go back up. England are on the ascendancy in world cricket, all credit to Nasser Hussain for not losing his cool when there were good reasons for doing so.
Roger Lane, UK

Brilliant result - under Nasser Hussain and Duncan Fletcher we have become hard to beat, there is competition for places and a good deal more backbone than for ages. Nasser Hussain has looked the part as captain from day one and fully deserves his third consecutive series win.
Toby, UK


England are on the ascendancy in world cricket
  Roger Lane, UK
Perhaps the greatest victory was the absence of the all to familiar 'England batting collapse'. The team showed great heart at the final day: snatching a win from the claws of a draw. Well done!
Erik Meijerink, The Netherlands

Certainly it's one of England's greatest achievements ever. Full credit to Nasser Hussain's captaincy and Atherton's experience. After beating the West Indies and Pakistan, England are emerging as the third power of Test cricket.
Zahangir Alam, Bangladesh

Certainly our best ever team for over a decade and our best result since we last won the Ashes in Oz in the mid-eighties. At last we have found a few players who really want to go out there and do it. Praise to the newcomers Trescothick and Giles, but well done Craig White for completely transforming yourself as a cricketer. Atherton was his usual brilliant best and well done Nasser Hussain on giving the players belief and guts. When we get Vaughan and Cork back we will get stronger still. Roll on Sri Lanka and then those Aussies next summer.
Matt Witcher, England

Congratulations to England. I was one of the Pakistanis who were writing England off at the beginning of the series. Pakistan, however were overrated, with their lack of genuine class spinners apart from Saqlain, and England's boring, but precise batting approach yielding results in the end. Too many one-day games have destroyed the Pakistani batsmen's mentality. They should learn how to keep their wicket, however learning off Atherton would be a bit drastic. Also Moin Khan, although a good motivator, is a useless tactical captain, and his decision to bowl Saqlain in the dark instead of a fast bowler, just said it all.
Farhan, UK

Totally incredible, after years of depression England really seem to be coming out of a slump. This was a fantastic performance and I really think that, as long as Sri Lanka don't turn us over, the Aussies are there for the taking! Well done, I still can't quite believe it!
Mark, England

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