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Last Updated: Thursday, 19 February, 2004, 19:07 GMT
Doc blasts 'abysmal' Scots
Dejected Scottish fans in Cardiff
It was dismal viewing for the Tartan Army
Former national manager Tommy Docherty believes that Scotland cannot ditch Berti Vogts despite the "absolutely abysmal" display against Wales.

John Collins became the latest former Scotland player to suggest that Vogts must go after the 4-0 defeat.

But Docherty said: "I don't think Berti Vogts knows what his tactics are, but I think he should stay until they get someone better.

"The world's best tactician would make little difference with these players."

Wednesday's defeat in the Millennium Stadium was the heaviest defeat by Wales in more than a century of matches between the nations.

"It was absolutely abysmal," said Docherty. "The worst display I have ever seen from Scotland."

To me, they look like a team lacking motivation and passion
John Collins
Docherty does not believe there would be many keen to take over as Scotland manager.

"Even if Sir Alex Ferguson was to retire from Manchester United and could be persuaded to take over again, it would make little difference if you don't have the players," he said.

Neither does Docherty think a solution is to bring in players born abroad but who qualify to play for Scotland after two years' residency.

"It is time to get back to basics and pick players who want to play and die for Scotland," said Docherty.

He does not see much hope for Scotland in the forthcoming World Cup qualifying campaign.

"Norway will beat us at Hampden and in Oslo, while Italy will beat us home and away as well," he said.

Docherty admits that he does not know much about Slovenia, Moldova and Belarus but concluded: "We have no chance of qualifying."

Former Scotland, Celtic, Monaco and Fulham midfielder Collins thinks it is time for a new man at the helm.

"I don't think he is the man for the job," he told BBC Five Live.

"We don't have a lot of talent, you have to say that for the man, but what we do have needs to be motivated and inspired and what comes across to me in his interviews before and after games is that he doesn't have a great grasp of the language first and foremost.

"When you've got limited players, what you have to do is make sure they're motivated and to motivate individuals you have to get into their minds and communicate with them.

"To me, they look like a team lacking motivation and passion.

"In the past, we haven't had the greatest teams, but what we did have was 11 players going out on the park motivated, playing for each other and organised.

"We got results, we surprised a lot of teams and it was very rare that we got a going-over, as is happening just now."





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