Welsh former boxing champions Tommy Farr and Eddie Thomas on Harry Carpenter's 1964 BBC programme "Champions' Way".

Having watched new heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali (who they call Cassius Clay) beat Sonny Liston for the title, the pair offer their opinions.

A somewhat-less-than-prescient Farr - who went 15 rounds with the great Joe Louis at Yankee Stadium in a 1937 challenge for the world heavyweight crown - is less than impressed...