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22 December 2007
ADVENTURE TRAVEL WITH CHILDREN
Sandi Toksvig talks to Marshall Corwin, the producer behind CBBC’s Serious Survival series, which transports adventurous 12-15 year olds to jungles, deserts and the Arctic. Callum, one of the team members has just returned from South America where they were conducting environmental projects on the glaciers of Tierra del Fuego. They discuss the project and their response to the challenges they met.
Taking children on holiday can be a challenging proposition at the best of times, but what happens if you’re a mountaineer and want to continue your career with toddlers in tow?
Rebecca Stephens is the first British woman to climb Everest, Simon Yates is a mountaineer whose agonising climbing experience was immortalised in the film and book Touching the Void. Both have children under five and are acclimatising them to holidays that are little more rigorous than sitting on a beach.
Fawzia Rasheed de Francisco, author of The RoughGuide to Travelling with Babies and Small Children shares advice about travelling in remote and tough environments.
Presented by Sandi Toksvig

Photo: Andes mountain range (photographer: Caetano Lacerda ©)
This week’s guests:
Marshall Corwin is the BBC producer responsible for Serious Survival a series of programmes for CBBC. Over the last five years they have taken groups of 12-15 year olds to Borneo (Serious Jungle) , The Andes (Serious Andes), the Amazon (Serious Amazon) , the Arctic (Serious Arctic) and Namibia (Serious desert). They have just returned from Tierra Del Fuego. (Serious Ocean)
Marshall is also the author of the book of the same name, subtitled How to Poo in the Arctic and other essential tips.
Serious Survival: How to Poo in the Arctic and Other Essential Tips for Explorers Publisher: Collins ISBN-10: 0007262000 ISBN-13: 978-0007262007
Callum is a teenager and has just returned from Tierra Del Fuego where he has spent a month filming Serious Survival (Serious Ocean).
He applied to take part in the series because he thought it would be really interesting and he imagined it would be a life changing experience. The final eight, 4 boys and 4 girls, were chosen from 16,000 applications. They set off one month after they were selected and got back a week ago. Callum loved the wildlife and the scenery but he was sick twenty one times sailing round Cape Horn.
The series will be broadcast in the summer 2008.
Rebecca Stephens MBE is the first British woman to have climbed Everest and who went on to become the first English-speaking woman in the world to climb the Seven Summits, the highest mountain on each of the seven continents. Rebecca continues to adventure at every opportunity, although she no longer takes the risks she used to.
On Top of the World Publisher: Rebecca Stephens; 2Rev Ed edition ISBN-10: 0954447603 ISBN-13: 978-0954447601
The Seven Summits of Success by Rebecca Stephens, Robert Heller Publisher: Capstone Publishing Ltd ISBN: 1841126594
Simon Yates is a climber and mountaineer and although the events on Siula Grande were one of his most public, they only play a small part in Simon's climbing and mountaineering experience. His other successful expeditions include Leyla Peak and Nemeka in Pakistan.
Simon was 14 when he went on a school trip to Coniston in the Lake District where he first experienced climbing. He now has two children under five, and has already started them taking adventure holidays by walking in the hills. They have just come back from Tierra Del Fuego where he was mountaineering in the Cordillera Darwin Range while the family sailed in a yacht up the fiords and moored there while Simon climbed.
The Flame of Adventure Publisher: Vintage; New Ed edition ISBN-10: 0099283867 ISBN-13: 978-0099283867
Fawzia Rasheed De Francisco is a development consultant for NGOs and the United Nations. She is also the writer and researcher of the Rough Guide to travel with Babies and Small children.
The guide contains advice and tips on how to cater for young children in aeroplanes and airports, in hotels, in cars, in various countries, what to do about immunisation, games to play en route, illness…
Fawzia believes that you can take even very small children practically anywhere as long as you plan ahead and are sensible about what you take with you – both the things you need and the things you should leave behind.
The Rough Guide to Travel with Babies and Young Children Publisher: Rough Guides Ltd ISBN-10: 1843537044 ISBN-13: 978-1843537045The BBC cannot be held responsible for the content of external sites |  |  |  |  | PRESENTER BIOGRAPHIES |  |  |  |  | Sandi Toksvig: The daughter of a foreign correspondent, Sandi has been travelling all her life more info |  |
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