Myself and my father have developed an unquenchable thirst for information on the SMITHFIELD area of Belfast, from the back entrance of where the Castlecourt Centre now is as far as Clifton Street and CARRICK HILL. My dad was born around this area and for many years was a barman at MCGLADE'S PUB (later THE PENNY FARTHING and now THE KREMLIN) in Donegall Street. During the school holidays, I got my first work experience (washing and collecting glasses) and soon learned that MCGLADES was where it was all happening! It was full of journalists and musicians and media people. I've been in London for about a decade and have only recently been back. I'm interested in talking about this SMITHFIELD / TELEGRAPH / CARRICK HILL area and my dad remembers it all in photographic detail while I'm lacking the visual fill-in for his tales. I was in SMITHFIELD maybe twice or three times in the mid-seventies (buying the bits for a crystal set) before it disappeared but the memory of its treasure trove of odds and sods stays with me as I'm sure everyone who's been there will appreciate. I'm a big fan of the current version of Smithfield. Hopefully this could become a spot to share recollections, pictures, anything about what I'd call Belfast's nerve-centre.
Your Responses: Geordy Austin - July '08
What great Craic about the districts.Especially the "HILL". I was born and reared there. My mother was from Francis St.I went to St Anthonys, Millfield started in 1948 at 4 years of age left in 1952. The boys tachers (The Masters) names were O Brien,O Shea McCarthy, Paddy McFadden (the best and the finest). Miss O Doherty taught Babys and Senior infants. We lived at 3 California St.I have seven brothers and three sisters and my father all alive. My father is Paddy Austin he was 99 last week. I am gone 30 years Im now in the USA. I have the fondest memories and affection for the Belfast pepole and especially the "Hill" North QueenSt,Sailortown.The Half Bap Coates St ,The Bullring Millfield. God never made finer people my best to you all. I hope this gets printed . I sent an email a couple of years ago similar to this but it didnt make the press.God bless you all. Geordy Austin. Henry (Honda) Irwin - July '08
Smithfield lives on, a bowl of soup ,selling old comics, buying white mice.
As I got older it was the motorbike shop, cannot remember it's name, bought my first Honda there. I feel lucky to to have been in Belfast in the 1960s. Now I live in Toronto, but the heartlives in Northern Ireland. Manny Magaiodh - June '08
Attenion Maggie Carvey Murphy Brown came across this site accidently for all information on pound Loney ie Cinnamond st. go to thelowerwackatyahoodotcom. Slan Manny Emmanuel Conway -June '08
Catherine Brown Holden, I have come across a photo which I'm sure is your Uncle Rabbie at his fruit stall in Old Smithfield around about the late 1960s. it is just how I remember it on that corner. The Photo is on the Belfast Forum Kathryn - June '08
Hello, I am trying to find Patrick Brown, who grew up in Unity flats, his sister was Olive Brown. Patrick will be in his 60's now. Does anyone have any information that can help me find them? Please email me kathrynhigginbotom at hotmail dot co dot uk
E McArdle - June '08
I was born on the junction of Carrick Hill and Clifden Street. My mother was Maisie Deighan and she had a hairdressing business above John Murray’s pub. My great aunt was Mary Farmer who had a shop at 110½ Upper Library Street/Carrick Hill. Before that my great grandmother Mary Kearney (nee Griffin) had a shop at 77-79 Carrick Hill. My grandmother Elizabeth Deighan lived in Trinity Street and then in Upper Library Street. I am working on my family tree and would be grateful for photographs or stories of these people? Tom Irivine - June '08
Hi B Tumelty
I came from Stanhope Street, I left there in 1960 but I still remember Bridget and Lena Mathews from the street.
T om Irvine, Auckland New Zealand. M Fitzpatrick - June '08
Hi B Tumelty
Was your granny Bridget Mathews? You mention Miss May and Miss McCormack - do you remember Miss Brennan Mr Mc Kenna that's going back a while! B Tumelty - June '08
Hello all old belfast lovers! Good times. Just found this site, B Tumelty! Carrick hill is where I was reared in Regent St - born in a cellar ,went to St Anthonys school. Granny Mathews lived in Stanhope St. Best friends lived in Aarnon St. 7 aunts 7uncles . Miss May, Miss Mc Cormick were great teachers (St Anthonys school)
Brenda Theobald (Nee Creighton) - June '08
RE Raymond Davey - Nov '06
(My grandfather was Cecil Creighton of the wee pet shop in gresham street and my granny (Nan) still lives with my mum and dad. Would love to hear from anyone who knew him. I helped out in the shop as a child and have very fond memories.) Cecil Creighton was my uncle and I am at present trying to trace some of my ancestors and have being having some difficulty finding my father's birth place. I would be interested to hear from Raymond as he may be able to help. My father was Arthur Creighton and we lived in Bexley, Kent
Catherine Brown nee Holden - May '08
I was born in Upton Street, my father was Freddie Holden with brothers, Michael Eddie, William Josie and Sam with sisters Mary and Kathleen, Aunt Mary was married to Robert Mallon who had a fruit stall outside Joe Kavanagh's in Smithfield. I have many happy memories of running all the way from Upton Street to Smithfield with sausage and egg sandwiches and a billy can of tea for my daddy and Uncle Robert then on a Saturday at the end of the day sitting on hand cart as it was wheeled back to the yard in Gresham Street for the night. Alos had an aunt and uncle in Cal,ifornia Street, Maggie and Willie Thompson. Does anyone remeber Lizzie Loughrans shop in California Street? I would like to know if anyone remembers the famil and better still if they have any old photographs. We lived in Alice Mc Ginty's house and my grannie Holden lived in number 38 Upton Street, I used to be terrified of Minnie Lightning!! Eddie Vince - May '08
My name Eddie Vince I lived at 38 Wall Street of the Carrick Hill. My school was St. Partick's Elementary School, Donegall Street continuation of Clifton Street and next to the school was St. Patrick's chapel. Anyone knows me or district please get in touch. We were bombed out in Wall Street Derby, Loughran, Divine. Marlie smith etc come to mind. Dolores Craig - May '08
Re: The book Green Peas and Barleyo...
It was written by a great man from Carrickhill called Danny Morgan. I would sit and listen to his stories for hours. We were once in a writer's group together. I last seen Danny a few years back, have to say he was very ill then. Hope someone else can give more scope on Danny and how to get this book.
Slán
Fellow scribe. Margaret Turley - Mar '08 RE: Maggie Carney Murphy Brown - May '07 I came across the site by accident but the name Hackett in your message came back to me in a flood of nostaliga. I lived in Cinnamon street as a child and remember the Hacketts very well.
Would I be right in saying that they lived on top of the pub a the top of the street, Paddy and Kathleen? We lived across the road in number 37 and our name was Loughran. I haven't seen them in over 40 years but they were a wonderful family. Pat Clarke - Dec '07
Wishing all old and new friends the very best for Christmas and New Year and to the families of those no longer with us ... Pat Clarke Colette Porter Montgomery - Dec '07
My name is Colette Porter was Montgomery. My grandfather, William Montgomery owned Montgomery Pets Store. My father and his brothers ran the store after my grandfather died. I remember as a little girl my father (Patrick Montgomery) taking my sister and I down on a Sunday morning after mass to feed the pets. I just loved it! All different animals - rabbits, puppies, hamsters, goldfish and so on. My father is still alive aged 88 and my mother 87 they had 11 children 6 boys 5 girls. I am the youngest at 45 and the oldest is 61 and we're all still living. Pauline Mc Carry - Feb '07
Hi I am doing a bit of research for my dad. John Mc Carry, he lived on Stanhope St number 37. Any info on his mother Sadie/Sally Mc Neil? He was mates with Francie Walsh.
Emmanuel Conway - Feb '07
Reading through the messages from contributors from the last six months, it seems that it should be called old Carrickhill instead of old Smithfield as the site has been inundated with messages about the place and people who lived there. I am from Millfield as most of the previous contributors already know but i'm now resident in Carrickhill.
I can help with some of the information people are looking for but I would need time to go through each of them. Catherine Brown, your uncle Robbie was well known and gave us kids from the Smithfield area any fruit that was too ripe. We would ask him "Any damaged fruit Robbie? He returned the hand cart each night to Lennie Teague's yard not in Gresham Street but in Winetavern Street behind Andy Crowes butchers at the corner with North Street. He hired the handcart for half a crown, We were only kids but Lennie let us hang about the yard and even let us mind it for him while he went for his meals in his home which was in McCrory's shop. He let us push the Carts up to the blacksmith up at Durham Street near Divis Street to bring back the wheel rims which he put on the carts himself. My uncle Jamesie Conalty used to push a cart to deliver second hand furniture for Charlie Connollys of Smithfield. Both father and son. I remember lizzie Lougrans shop very well. We would make excuses over before she closed each night just to hear the late Maggie Bailey play the mouth organ and the spoons. The craic was ninety. Lizzie moved to North Queen Street because of redelopment in the area. The John Mandeville Club was I believe the oldest club in Belfast at one time. it was situated in Stephen Street. It was run by the Brown Brothers who apparently inherited it from their granda. Eventually Joe Brown ran it on his own as Desi had his own bar and the other brothers who had worked for O'Kanes undertakers, opened their own undertaking business. It was a great and well run club with no hassle. we would have played a game of cards in it for hours.
One of the stories about the place was that it once served the fastest pint anywhere as it was alledged that the beer was scooped up from a bath in a pint glass. Another wise crack was that the Browns served you when you were alive and served you when you're dead. The facade of the building is still there but the inside was ripped out for storage space for the Belfast Telegraph. They claimed the premises were theirs and forced Joe to close. Joe died of cancer not too long afterwards. Robert and Anthony also passed away. Desi owns the Tavern bar which used to be called the Avenue. Matt Doyle - Feb '07
I was born in Carrickhill at 34 Stanhope Street on July 1951. My mothers maiden was Martha McGrogan and married to become Martha Doyle. Two of my younger brothers were also born in Stanhope Street, their names are Emmanuel and Joseph. I have another 4 brothers and 1 sister which were all born in 23 Carlisle Street they are Johnny, Samuel, Jerry & Michael. The girl of the family was named Caroline. My Grandfather Joe McGrogan who lived in 36 Stanhope Street with my uncle Joe who was a shoemaker by trade. My uncle Sammy McGrogan my aunts Minny & Annie have sadly all passed away. I went to St Patricks Primary School Lancaster Street in 1956-1962. We had some great times living in Carrickhill and I also still live there now. If anyone is familiar with my family feel free to drop a line it would be nice to hear from a few old friends. Colette - Feb '07
Dad is called Patrick Montgomery. His father was called William he owned the pet shop in Smithfield. My father Patrick is 86-years-old and is still alive. My name is Colette Montgomery married I am now married, the youngest of 11. I am 44-years-old the eldest is 62. My mother is still alive, both parents are living in Turflodge.
Joe Curley - Feb '07 Danny Corr, I have been looking for you for years looking round Ballymurphy and surrounding area. I even went to the Barny reunion in the Waterfront although I hated the school to see if you would turn up there.You were my best friend in school at that time we had great times there Danny. I just stumbled on this web page and my eyes nearly popped out when I seen your name. My name is Joe Curley and I hope you reply Danny. Joe Murphy you forgot Conlon's bar at FrancisSstreet you were drinking in it from you were a wee lad ha! ha! still can't get over Alex.
J.Clarke - Feb '08
I am trying to find where the Royal Cinema was in Belfast.
If anyone knows would you give me this information and maybe some background to it? Mec - February '08
hi has anybody any information on taits (tates) court? All I can gather from street directorys is that it was off Millfield. K MCCANN - February '08
Hello.Im doing a little research for my father-in-law who was brought up in Corporation Street Belfast, then moved into Unity Flats where he grew up - that then became Carrick hill area - where until recently his mother still lived. Many of his family are still living out in Belfast, and we do often visit. ButI'm not getting anywhere on finding some information on a pub that his grandfather once owned or ran. Basically it is all barred up now ( when we pass) but it was once called the Mandawville or something like that. All i can say its near Libertys Frames -that was opposite the taxi Rank. Does anyone have any chat on this old pub? I'm sure it comes with many a story . Any info on Corporation Street in the early to late 1950's-for my father-in-law, Danny, would be great.Thanks. I LOVE reading these storys ! ! MEC - Feb '08
Hi Ive just noticed your comments about maybe having some photos from Letiticia Street. My family is from there, no 11, the Campbells. Would be interested in getting a copy or a look if possible. Tommy Bartlett - Feb '08
Gerry Tierney I don't know if you remember me but for years I thought that you and your brothers were my cousins.My name is Tommy Bartlett and my mother Lizzie and your mother May were the best of friends. I remember Pat,Bill and Kathleen and your dad Jack unfortunately thats as far as my memory allows. If you read this drop a line to this site and I willtry to contact you.Best wishes to all Jonathan Shearer - Feb '08
My father Marshall along with his brother Wesley owned and ran Shearers record shop in Smithfield, I have very fond childhood memories of going there on a Saturday..it was like another world. John Beattie - Jan '08
Hi, I started in G.P.O.1960 as a telegram boy and I knew Carmel Johnson who lived in Smithfield Square at the corner of Francis Street, also Manny Sterling lived at 8 Garfield Street. We used to go to dances at Clarke's in Donegal Street and the Astor Ballroom in College Mews, they were the days of jive and you held your partner. We didn't need drink then to have a good time. After the dance if it was dry we walked home to Andytown both the girls and boys. I was in in love with one of the Andytown girls but nothing ever came to a head and we went our separate ways, I sometimes wonder what if? It is so good to read from exiles from Belfast and the memories they have of this great city. Jane Doran - Jan '08
My grandparents owned the bar on Stanhope Street. I think it was called 'Doherty's Bar', it was a large bar.
There names were - James and Jane O'Doherty. Do you have any photos of Stanhope street?
Regards Jane Geordie's great granddaughter - Jan '08
To Patrick Clarke. Geordie Meighan, sadly passed away many years ago. Maggie Carney Murphy Brown - May '07
My name is Maggie Brown from USA. My Mom was born in Belfast. Her brother Eddie Murphy owned the pet shops (2) in Belfast. My Mom was Margaret Murphy Brown and had lived on Cinnamond St with her foster parents Frank and Mary Hackett. She married after WW2 to my Dad who was a soldier then. I am looking forward to hearing from any cousins out there. celticmoon522000 at yahoo dot com if any one would like to converse. John Burnett
Looking for info on Teresa Hamilton my grandmother to do with clay pipe makers moved to glasgow married John Donald Burnett around the 1800`s John Burnett Angel torley - Apr '07
I have just come across the post from Bob Torley dated February.
If your fathers name is Jimmy then the answer is yes, my email address is angel dot ireland at yahoo dot co dot uk Mary and Jose
Alright fitzy did you have a good time on holiday did you behave yourself Dolly Flannigan - Apr '07
Thomas Irvine
Tom you know my Sisters Anne she was the oldest Frances .brother Paddy We Used To Go SEE You .i came here in 1971 .
Do You Have Any Pictures of all your Family i sent you an e mail .you can copy and paste this into your e mail Dolly737 at aol dot com Paula Corr
to paul metcalffe - better late than never in replying!!!
Corr is my married name (now divorced!!) my ex's family come from coalisland town there are loads of Corr's in that area, there's even Corr road!
good luck
paula Thomas Irvine
hi dolly
i tried your email it didn't work try mine ngatom at clear dot net dot nz my late eldest brother gerry used to sell fruit for uncle joe on the corner of lower north and high sts. i used to help him saturdays in the early 50s tom irvine. Jack - Apr '07
The germans bombed our chippy Margaret Fitzpatrick - Apr '07
Bernie Mc Giv Carlise Street was at Carlise Circus I lived there in the flats when the troubles began I told you I was smart ask mary Margaret Fitzpatrick - Apr '07
Mc giv I am glad you found the site I knew I was smarter than you I found the site about 10 months ago it is great I check it every day It is great to hear from people from all over the country and futher afield .
your neighbour Ainslie Magill - Apr '07
Does anyone have information on the Magills from Ton Street? My grandfather Charles Magill was born in Ton Street in 1921 - his parents were Charles Magill and Ellen McCarthy. They had a number of children and came to Glasgow around 1930. Any information would be greatly appreciated Jackie Close - Apr '07
My name is John(Jackie) Close. My father had a wee shop on the old Lodge rd. next door to a pub called the Elephant and Castle , he sold papers sweets and cigarettes. The court house was next door and Florence Place was in between , we left Ireland in 1954 to live in n.s.w. Australia I was twenty years old . I loved reading about Smithfield us kids would visit the magic box I think it was called, we used to buy little glass stink bombs and break them in the pictures or at the bookies, also I bought imatation dog poo and many a time my ma would give the cat a hell of a belt for pooing behind the door, I wonder why that cat never liked me… if any body remembers me or the Old Lodge rd, i would love to hear from them. I used to go to Perth street school. Bernie McGivern - Apr '07
Alrite there Fitzy, where was Carlise Street? B.Magee - Apr '07
Complete amateur at Pc,s. Anyway here goes, We lived in Unity St. My Dad drove a horse cab and jaunting car .We also kept other animals; goats, chicken etc,. I used to gather skins with a pony and cart,. The pony's name was Blondie, who was one of the last of a now extinct breed of Cushendall ponies. A few of the shop names from the area that I remember are: Micky Mc Cabe's (Butcher), Coyllers (Grocers who slaughtered and prepared their own pigs on site.), Billy Kingsmores(chippy), Mrs. Passmore (pigsfeet and elder), Toughers pawn. How about a few local pubs names, anyone remember some?
Great site and memories..keep up the good work and keep the stories coming. Gerry Rutter - Mar '07
I now live in Australia but remember my dad taking me down to Smithfield on a Saturday and having a packet of peanuts pinched from me by a monkey in one of the shops!I was very upset but the monkey wouldn't let go. I attended St. Malachys college with one of the Kavanagh boys. Dolly Flannigan - Mar '07
Dolly Flannigan from Market
My Dad was Mickie Flannigan from carrick hill i know i had a lot of cousins named Irvine, also Nolan .do you know these namesMy uncle Joe Flannigan had a little fruit shop on the hill,Sally was my Aunt
We did a story in Rushlight Magazine bout my Dad.
my e mail is Dolly737@aol.com Mary The pepperhill wanderer - Mar '07
Here fitzy now i know what your doing at night you kept that quiet from the rest of the street im telling jose she will want to know about this. Teresa Cookson - Mar '07
Came accross this site by accident and loved it. I was born in pound street in the 1940s . went to st brendans school with eileen mayes. still go home on a regular basis would love to hear from anyone from the pond loney. I have four sisters and one brother William, Eileen, Margaret, me Teresa,Marie and Bell My maiden name was Gough Margaret Fitzpatrick - Mar '07
Hi Annie Malone. McGurk's bar was blown up over 30 years ago with the loss of many lives Joe Murphy - Mar '07
Ok big joe wot about ye? Did u sign the petition?
Maggie Murphy - Feb '07
Hi there everyone, I lived in Carrickhill, but now live in Liverpool Anne Malone - Feb '07
I used to live in carrickhill unity street and now live in liverpool england Ii stumbled across this site when my nephew showed me how to use a computer and logged into a belfast and found this site is mc gurks bar still in north queen street as this was a regular haunt of mine. Bob Torley - Feb '07
I live in Coventry, England my name is Bob Torley I think my family originate from Belfast and I have read a message on here from Angel Torley, I wonder if we are related ... my grandmother was Margaret Torley J Stott - Feb '07
I'm trying to track down a copy of a book Green Peas and Barley O, for a family member, it was written by the residents of Carrick Hill. Has anyone ever heard of it and would anyone have any idea of where I could get a copy . Thanks Joe Curley - Feb '07
Couldn't believe it when I came across this web site, memories came flooding back. Manuel Conway, big Mick, Joe Murphy, Alex still can't believe he is not here anymore, Alex and Patsy used to babysit for us, she is my niece. another shock I got was my best friend at barny whom I was trying to find for years Danny Corr who turns up on this web site. Emmanuel Conway- Jan '07
To Sheila Phillips. Altcar Street was in the Short Strand area of East Belfast. It ran from Lisbon Sreet- to Mountpottinger Road. I believe it disappeared under redevelopment.
I checked a 1957 street directory and there are 3 Murrays at that time living in Altcar Street. Mrs. B Murray lived at number 5 and Mr.James Murray lived in number 18, with a Mrs. Edna Murray living in No. 22. I am wondering are they the same Murrays who had relatives living in Winetavern Street in the Smithfield area where i Came from? Bob Torley - Jan '07
I live in Coventry, England. My name is Bob Torley. I think my family originate from Belfast and I have read a message on here from Angel Torley, I wonder if we are related? My grandmother was Margaret Torley J Stott- January '07
I'm trying to track down a copy of a book Green Peas and Barley O, for a family member, it was written by the residents of Carrick Hill. Has anyone ever heard of it and would anyone have any idea of where I could get a copy . Thanks Peter Smith - Nov '06
Hi,
Would anyone have an old map of Belfast, say around 1959. If you have , perhaps you could scan and forward to me. I am particularly interested in The Market area, where I was born and raised. Thomas Irvine - Nov '06
Hi folks
It's great to read about familiar places and names, some of you people are probably related to some of the guys i left St Anthony's with in 1953. Guys like Paddy Conway, Tony Stanton, Owen Mc Mahon, Peter Arthurs, Harry Fisher and Tommy Vernon to mention a few. John Parker - Nov '06
H ello patsy hey manuel your given my age away i only 37 ha ha Tony McGonigle - Nov '06
j.m 25 june 2004. Wasn't there two pet shops beside each other in Gresham St. -Montgomerys and Creightons. The latter was Cecil Creighton who had been a useful boxer at the something fields? Anyone know where these fields that the boxing took place in happened to be? Raymond Davey - Nov '06
My grandfather was Cecil Creighton of the wee pet shop in gresham street and my granny (Nan) still lives with my mum and dad. Would love to hear from anyone who knew him. I helped out in the shop as a child and have very fond memories. Pat Seaye - Nov '06
I was just reading the posted letters about smithfield, yes it was the heart of old Belfast, I went to school with a girl who's dad had a shop there, the family name was conlon, her name was Pat, I know she later owed a shop in Andersonstown and later went to Spain to live, she married a fella from St. James called Danny Elliman, love to here anything about Pat. I am living in Aus for 20yrs. Sheila Phillips - Nov '06
There seems to be a lot of knowledgeable people on this page! Can anyone tell me about Altcar Street ? I think it's gone now but my family lived there in the 1920s Their name was Murray. Joe Murphy - Nov '06
Thanks for your condolences re Alex. His headstone was erected last week. Patsy Johnston - Nov '06
I have found out about this site through my mate Emmanuel Conway and it is everything he said it would be. My family comes from the Carrickhill Johnston on my fathers side and Deighan on my mothers side. I used to work in my grandfather's fruits shop at the top of North St (Deighans) and remember my forays to the old Smithfield market with the fondest and warmest of memories, what a wonderland, you could spend your whole day there, but my mammy would have given me a crack round the ear as they say in our neck of the woods. I would love to have seen old photos accompanying this site, to make the journey complete.
John Parker - Nov '06
JP to Joe sorry about Alex, how are you joe? Are you still working? Yvonne Lascelles - Nov '06
Hello, has anyone any information on the Todd family from a very early Smithfield, would love to find a origin for this line of my family tree, any help appreciated. Margaret Fitzpatrick - Nov '06
Hi everyone, I was on the phone to my brother in Australia on Saturday night, he has been in Australia for 34 years and has never been home. He told me his son had come across this site and printed out 7 or 8 page of comments for him, he said it was very good reading brought back a lot of memories to him he was reared in the Smithfield area. He has now passed the comments to another Belfast family who came from the Carrick Hill area so I thought I would let you know that our comments are being read 12000 miles away from Belfast - I think it's great. Henry Honda - Nov '06
Wee white mice, at the pet shop, Gresham street. Who can forget Smithfield, hung a lot at the motorcycle shop as I got older. Lots of memories, got married, came to Canada and here I am. Belfast has changed but the memories never leave, no more goldfish, no more hamsters, no more irish girls ha, ha. Where are my old buddies, on the bikes, used to hang out at Barnett's Park and Pootsies Soda Bar, Shore Road, couple of names Henry Milliken (Tiger 90) Davy Daytona. PS - my dad owned the Wee Boyne Tavern, & Harry's Bar. GAFFIGAN ST Sandy Row. Sold Harry's - bought the Boyne. Ps I lived on the Donegall Road, near the Windsor Picture House. Margaret Fitzpatrick - Nov '06
Hi J K
Iremember Paddy Leicester very well as a kid. He sold telegraph around Smithfield, Millfield, North street area. He also delivered the 'tele' to houses in Samuel Street and Millfield, was aways late Paddy did not come from this area he came from the Pound Loney.
Emmanuel Conway - Nov '06
To JK, I and my 3 brothers Gerard, Danny and Paddy all sold 'Teles' for Paddy Lester. We would have to go from pub to pub on Saturday nights looking for Paddy to get paid and if we were stewed up (Papers over) Paddy would give us a couple of coppers and the papers to sell on the way home. (Skinflint) He could always be found in one of the bars in the Pound Loney. To John Parker & Patrick Clarke here is a wee bit of your school history.
1. John Parker 16 Agnes Street. Number on School Roll 307
2. Patrick Clarke 1 Letitia Street & 3a Abbotscoole House, Rathcoole Number on School 304 and your late friends, my brothers Danny and Paddy and Alex Murphy and Emmanuel Campbell.
3.Alex Murphy 7 Samuel Street Number on School Roll 315
4. Emmanuel Campbell 17 Wilson Street number on school Roll 294
5 & 6 Danny and Paddy Madden 30 Millfield Numbers on School Roll 319 & 328 respectively.
1963-64 You were all in P1 and P2. You all entered these classes on various dates.
Alex was first at the age of 5yrs & 2 months he entered the class on 22/04/63 Danny was next at the age of 5yrs & 4 months
01/05/63
John, 6 yrs & 2 months. Patrick 6 yrs 1 months and Emmanuel 5yrs & 11 months You all entered the class roll 01/08/63 although the school year didn't begin until 28th August
Paddy Madden was the youngest and entered the class on 09/09/63 Other pupils in the class were Alan Cotterill, Gerard (Ned) Kelly, Kieran Maxwell, Herby McCartney,Davy Kearns, Eugene Hale, Michael Duffy.
Patrick you left St. Anthony's 20th September 1966 and were due to return on 28th Nov. But Didn't turn up until the next day. I assume this was when you moved to Rathcoole.
Classes were of mixed gender in 1966 and some of the girls names are Ann McMahon, Theresa Kane, Rita Parker, Rosaleen Crawford, Mary McGivern, Margaret Black and the late Eilish Russell.
I hope this will give you both and anyone else who reads this something to talk about over a few beers.
John (Comber) - Nov '06
Eddie Havlin- what a great guy. He used to give talks to the insurance company surveyors about locks and safes. He had immense knowledge about security. Told a good yarn. Sorry to hear he passed away. Old Smithfield - I used to visit every Saturday with me Da in the 60s. Hundreds of stalls. You could always find something you didn't need but had to have. I also fondly remember Tommys pet shop in Gresham Street, great wee man was Tommy. Kavanaghs window was a great place to stare at. Generally couldnt afford to go in there! Joe Murphy - Nov '06
To JK, yes I remember Paddy and his dad Arthur, who sold papers in West Streeet, both are now gone, sadly. Harry Mc Garrigle sold papers at the Elephant Bar in North Street, sadly he too is no longer with us. We used to sell 'teles' for Paddy and Ulsters. Thomas Irvine - Nov '06
Hi Theresa,
Nice to hear from you after all these years. I hope you and your family are well. I haven't seen or heard from John or Gerry since I left London for Australia in 1967. I came to New Zealand in 1973 and, apart from 2 years in Rarotonga Auckland, has been my home. If you get time it would be nice to hear from you. Fondest regards, Tom Irvine. John Parker - Nov '06
To pat from JP, I lived in Agnes Street, then moved to unity flats have not seen Michael Duffy for years. I remember big Geordie Meighan. I work in Matalan on Boucher. Aine Gorman - Nov '06
Hello, my granny was born in Samuel Street, and her two sisters lived their until the early nineties when they had to move out for the Castel Court developement. My granny's family were the 'Matthews', Lily, Sally, Peter, Nelly, Joseph, Tommy and there were probably more. JK- Oct '06
Does anybody remember Paddy Leicester who sold the 'tele' at the bus station? Tony McGonigle - Oct '06
To EJ Havlin, we nicked the big yale key that hung over your shop. the shop was near the record shop? we took the key round to kellys cellars for a pint. This was in the early seventies. Pat Clarke - Oct '06
To john parker.
Hello John, in response to your query I was born in 1957 and was also in Mr McKennas class's and Mr Smiths. I'm currently in touch with Geordie Meighan and he knows lots of old pals whereabouts i'm currently trying to find Michael Duffy any ideas?
Where did you live? Margaret Fitzpatrick - Oct '06
To Liz Brennan it was I who was trying to find out about the Doran twins Geraldine and Phyliss. I myself went to school with the twins, we went to ST Anthony's in Millfield a girl called Roseleen Clarke who had asked if I remembered them, it is hard to remember after 40 years but I did remember them I now live in Carrickhill Kathleen and Elish Valliday also lives here I lived 3 doors down from the school. I hope if you are talking to Phyliss you will pass this onto her my name - in those days it was Margaret Conway. Paul - Oct '06
Curry's Pub, Falls Road:
Can anybody give me any information on the Curry family, who had a pub on the Falls Road, Belfast, which I believed closed in the 1960s
J Parker - Oct '06
To Pat Clarke from J Parker, I can't remember you what about my two older brothers Tommy and Pat Parker? John Parker - Sep '06
John Parker to Pat clarke, I was born in 1957. You might have known my older brothers Tommy and Pat and my sister Kathleen, I used to run about with Paddy, Danny Madden, Alex Murphy and Manuel Campbell. We were all in the same class in school along with Gerard and Ciaran Maxwell, they where the good old days and we will never see them again. It would be great if we could get a reunion of all our old class mates. If you get to read this Pat let me know who's class you where in I was in Mr Mc Kenna's class. Liz Brennan - Sep '06
Just happened to come across this site and was reading all the emails when I spotted one about Geraldine & Phyliss Doran from Ballymurphy. I know them well, their younger sister Rita (who is also a twin) is my best friend. Geraldine has lived in america since the early 70s. Phyliss lives on Black's Road. They are still identical and still as lovley. Theresa Walsh - Sep '06
Hi Tommy Irvine, are you the son of Sally and Joe Irvine from 50 Stanhope street. My name is Theresa Wlash, sister of John, Gerarld, Francis Bobby and Tony. We lived at 38 Stanhope Street. Linda Reid - Sep '06
Hi, my name is Linda Reid, I am doing a family tree my father came from ton street he was a rag man his name is Dennis Hanna, he had two sisters one called Kathleen, which I found went to England and came back his other sister Rose. I cannot find my grandfather Dennis Hanna came from Massareene Street, Quinns and Hannas are in my family tree. I hope some one can help me, thank you Linda. Fiona Perry - Sep '06
Hi
My family owned the leather shop at 37 Gresham St and I'm pretty sure that it was in the family from 1823 (could be wrong on that date). My grandmother was Hannah Gallagher, she died in 1952 and then my aunt Minnie Gallagher ran the shop. My aunt Annie had three bookshops, one in Union Street, one opp. the Town Hall and the third was on the corner of Gresham St opp. Smithfield Market. I was born in London but I would be taken to Belfast for the summer holidays, and sometimes christmas as well, by my mother Kathleen Maude Flude nee Gallagher. I have wonderful memories of Smithfield Market & of eventually being allowed to go there by myself & just wandering for hours on end especially among the secondhand book stalls. It was always my job to go and buy the milk and bread in Winetavern St & I still don't think I have tasted soda or potato bread to match it. The pet shop was a daily must and I always spent a lot of time in with the Kennedy's, above the shop at no 35. I wonder if anyone remembers my family and/or has any info on my grandparents Hannah & (I think) Charles Gallagher. Would love to hear from anyone with even the smallest bit of info. Cheers Fiona. Dana Madden - Sep '06
Hello Margaret and Emmanuel,
I hope you are both well, I would just like to give you my email address ( danamadden @ pharoweb.co.uk) then perhaps you can send me yours and we can exchange photos via email.
I would love any more photos of dad (Dani) now i'm older there don't seem so many!
I showed mum this site the other day and she thinks its just brilliant I know she is now on the hunt to find some old school friends to. Speak soon x x Brian - Sep '06
Paul Metcalfe,
I am also trying to trace Corr family, originally from Tyrone but then living in Pinkerton Street,North Belfast. I have Bridget McAleer, married to John Corr, on Nov 14 1874.Cookstown. Later generations of Corrs married Maddens from Pinkerton Street. Is anyone connected to these families?
Thanks Emmanuel Conway - Sep '06
To Euron Jones, if you could tell me your father in law's name I may be able to help you with some photos. I and the late Alec Murphy did an exhibition of the streets and people of Smithfield 6 years ago. To Joe Murphy, I'm sure we (Alec and myself) must have got at least one photo of Euron Jones Father in law. Joe Murphy - Sep '06
To Euron Jones - hello, could you please tell mr your father- in-law's name. Maybe I could be of some assistance to you thank you, good bye. Euron Jones - Sep '06
To anyone who can help. I am looking for some old photographs of Samuel Street where my father in law grew up (1940s and 50s). I'm trying to put together a birthday present of old memories for him. If anyone has got any or knows were I can get some please contact me at euron . jones @ btinternet.com) M Sweeney - Sep '06
Hi, any information on Frank Spence, merchant seaman who socialised in and around smithfield/1970/1980, his old friend M Sweeney is enquiring. Thank you. Margaret Conway Fitzpatrick - Aug '06
Hi Pat Clarke, I read your comments - you were asking on behalf of your sister about the Doran twins and Paddy Doran the last I heard of them was over 40 years ago they were living in Ballymurphy but I will try and find out. You also mention Barney Conway he is one of my older brothers but Sammy is younger I wonder does Roselee remember Elish and Kathleen Valliday. Maura Stanton who also lived beside St Anthony's. Sadly some of our class mates have passed away, ask Roseleen does she remember Miss Breenan and Mr Mc Kenna they were great days we may not have had much but they were good days. I hope to hear from you again, I myself am married I have 5 grown up children 11 grandchildren 1 great grand child. Pat Clarke - Aug '06
To Elish Mc Gartland / Margaret Conway.
My sister Roseleen is not online but she wants to know if you remember the twins Geraldine and Philis Doran.
Also Barney Conway and Paddy Doran. she said you were in the same class as her at St. Anthony's. Pat Clarke - Aug '06
To Dana madden
I used to play with Paddy / Danny / Alex and Manuel .
We would go down to the Mill Dam and catch bees in jam jars, we could often be found playing in West St Bus Station or in the timbers in Wilson Street (an old demolished building behind the pub on the corner of Millfield / Wilson Street we all wore shorts in those days and our socks were always around our ankles, me and Danny always had runny noses and were always being told that the snotters were tripping us.
Unfortunatly we moved away when I was about 12 and lost contact now in later years you look back and try to rekindle your childhood friends and find its too late.
Kathleen murphy will give you my e mail address.
Please keep in touch, Pat. Emmanuel Conway - Aug '06
To E.J. Havlin Deepest sympathy to yourself and your family on the death of your father Eddie. A man who'll be remembered for helping make Smithfield a famous landmark. We met when you were doing your dissertation. Big Micky Connolly sends his condolences. To Dana Madden, I will be forwarding some photographs of your dad taken in his younger days. Uncle Emmanuel. Margaret Fitzpatrick (Carrickhill) - Aug '06
Hi Dana Madden, this is your dad's aunt Margaret your grannie's sister your great aunt. I was delighted to see your comments on the site, Pat Clacke and Joe Murphy could tell you about your dad Danny Madden. I know you have been in touch with your grannie when Paddy died. Your dad was a very funny guy as a kid if you want to ask anything feel free to ask give my love to your mum and sisters hope to hear from you soon. Margaret Conway Fitzpatrick - Aug '06
I was so pleased to see my comments on your site today also the comments from my brother and nephew Sammy and Manuel Conway. I would like to hear more comments from Danny Corr or Elish Mc Garland. It is so good to hear names of the past. I am 59 and am now only learning how to use the computer. I go to classes in the center in Carrick Hill, where I now live they have knocked down the old flats and we are in nice houses. I have been living here for over 36 years. I hope to hear more comments soon. Liza Authar was inquiring about Mullholand or Auther families. There is still a man in this area named P Mullholland his sisters married name was Authars she had two sons and one daughter - Charmaine. I was very friendly with them. I don't know if these are the same people they were inquiring about. EJ Havlin - Aug '06
I am sorry to post the sad news that my father Eddie Havlin died last week 2nd August 2006. Dana Madden - Aug '06
Dear Pat Clarke My Name is Dana Madden and I saw your message mentioning the Maddens brothers deaths, where you a friend of Paddy and Daniel madden from Belfast, if so please could you reply I would love to find out more about my dad in his younger years. Joe Murphy - Aug '06
To Pat Clark, hi Pat how are you keeping thank for your sympathty about our Alex and Danny and Paddy Madden and Emmanuel [Soupy] campbell. You can contact me on joenmurphy @ msn.com .I noticed e havelin message on this site he sadly passed away this week. Iwas talking to Gerard and Emmanuel Conway at Alex's month mind mass in St Mary's last night. It's been a sad time for all of us as you know. Alex and the Maddens and Soupy were all good friends and sadly none of them lived to be 50. John parker, how are you John, big shock about Alex and Paddy. Lisa Arthurs - Aug '06
Does anybody have any information about the Mullhollands or the Arthurs from Carrick Hill? Paul Metcalfe - Aug '06
To Paula Corr I am trying to trace my wifes family tree her father was a Corr do you know if any of youre relations come from Coalisland or from that way?
Sammy Conway - July '06
I just came across your site thanks to my nephew Manuel, very interesting to see so many names of people and places that I have known all my life. Very good idea to have a site/page where people can contribute to those looking for imformation about Smithfield/Millfield area. M Conway - July '06
It was lovely reading about millfield I myself came from millfield I also went to St Anthony's, I lived in 32 millfield iread one comment from elish mc garland i was in the same class as her my name was Margaret Conway. I also know Danny Corr I was friendly with his late sister, I also knew his late mother and father.
Emmanuel Conway Carrickhill - July '06
To Pat Clarke
I was just browsing and came across the correspondence between yourself and my good friend John Parker. He informed you of the murders of my brothers Danny and Paddy Madden, and the deaths of our good friends Alex Murphy and Emmanuel Campbell, we all attended St. Anthony's P.S. Millfield. Alex was a pall bearer of Paddy's coffin when his remains were returned to the family home on Tuesday 4th July and died of a broken heart on the 5th. Paddy and Alex were best friends.
Pat I remember when you came in and out of our house at 30 Millfield. Alex and I organised a Smithfield re-union and photographic exhibition about 5-6 years ago. We got lots of photos of your neck of the woods Letitia/Wilson Streets as well as 100s of others. Emmanuel Campbell Died in May 1987.
Danny Corr, I remember you when you lived in Millfield, down near St. Stevens Church. During our research into the people and places in Smithfield we were able to attain many of the old roll books from St. Anthony,s which were on display at our exhibition.
Jennifer Crawford - July '06
Can anyone tell me how the name Peters Hill originated?
Thanks
JB
Eilish Mcgartland - July '06
I am 59 years old and was reared in Alton Street Carrick Hill and attended St Anthonys Millfield. I remember Miss May and Miss Nora McDermott with great affection, most of all I have great memories of the people of Carrick Hill, and all the great characters Jump Jimmy Jump, Ructions, Jimmy Duffin to name but a few, happy days, to me it's still the best city in the world and Carrick Hill was its jewel.
Pat Clarke - July '06
To john parker - it was with regret that I recieved the news of the Madden brothers deaths.
But yesterday finding out about Alex Murphy and Manuel Cambell as well has really shook me up .
I've been trying to trace them for months now on friends reunited [st anthonys] but now its too late.
I suppose I may have been in the same year as you? Please get in touch patsmai1 @ blueyonder.co.uk John Parker - July '06
Hi John Parker again just a few lines about to mates Danny and Paddy Madden they lived next door to St Anthony's School both are now dead, Danny was killed in england 10 years ago Paddy was killed this week. God love them, may they rest in peace we wont forget you, good night lads Gerry Tierney - June '06
I was born at 32 Valentine Street in 1949 and attended St Pats Donegal Street ( taught by Bro Keane ) and then Hardinge St CBS - now living in Dublin - I have 5 brothers Bill, Pat, John, David & Michael - 1 sister Kate - We moved to Andersonstown when I was 13 but I still have memories of the Smithfield area. Patrick Lavery - June '06
I remember fondly as a young fella in the late 60s wandering around the old Smithfield Market. It was like an Arabian Bazaar and to a child was an amazing place. Harry Hall's bookshop was a big draw as I loved the American Superhero comics and the Magic Box was well 'Magic'. I also loved the little out of the way shop that sold war memorabilia. My Dad, also Patrick Lavery was from 21 Balaclava Street so Patsy McCann you would probably know the family. I would also love to know of any books or photos of the old place. Pat Quinn - June'06
Pat Quinn late of Bombay Street. This is a faciniting site I think I know Danny Corr. I went to a carnival in the lower falls in the late fifties great times. Gerry Ross - June '06
My grandfather had a shop in old smithfield - James McCoy he was from Californai Street, I had other relations there - Humphries. I went to school at the Christian Brothers Donegall St 1955 -1961. I was taught by Joe Barr, the last years - fond memories. Pat Clarke - May '06
Re. Richard Greens question - Did your great grandfather have a son called James?
Or relatives living in Boomer St off Divis st? Richard Green, pleasanton, CA USA - May '06
Dear all,
I am trying to find any photo's of the area of Millfield and in particular the pub at 24 Millfield. This was my great grandfather - Michael McKeown. They owned the pub about 1925 to 1930. If any one has the name or details. Joe Hodgkinson - May '06
When I was a"wee" lad my brother Frank would take me to Smithfield on a Saturday to buy me a jigsaw puzzle, I loved to poke around Kavanaghs. This was probably in the late thirties. Now I'm in my late seventies(79) and spend my time between N. Y. and Florida. D. Curry - May '06
I know a member of the McMurray family who may have some old photos of the shop in North Street, his name is Ken and he can be found in the telephone directory under McMurray cars. His Dad died about 4 years ago but was in the car showroom one evening when I was buying a car and he told me his family had run the shop for many years. Try asking as I'm sure the family will have kept records and photos etc. good luck. Pat Clarke - May '06
To paul connely, jan o6
hi paul i would be very interested in old photos of the hill/millfield/smithfield as i have no photos of where i was brought up. Brian - April '06
Hi Paula and Danny CORR. I'm doing the family tree and have CORR connections from Pinkerton Street, and wondered whether either of you are connected?
My CORRS were connected to MADDEN from the same area.
Many thanks
Brian Margaret Rankin - April '06
Do any of you remember the wee stew shop bottom of north st what a feast for sixpence a whole bowl of stew those were the days my friends. Then into next door eve's hat shop for a pair of earrings for the dance on saturday. That bowl of stew was very welcome after trekking round Smithfield. John Parker - April '06
I went to st anthonys, i live in unity flats, i went to school with joe and alex murphy and angel pat torley they were good old days. Danny Corr - March '06
I was born and bred in Millfield, went to St Anthonys, and have so many happy memories of the place, and the people, does anyone remember Charlotte's fruit stall at the Francis St end of Smithfield Market? she would sell us 1 pennyworth of "damaged fruit" on our way to the Central picture house, better known as the "flea pit" had my hair cut in Davy Swindles barber shop, beside the Central, loved watching the older guys getting a " B Bap " and then he would singe the top of the hair with a straw, also spent a lot of time staring through the window of the Magic Box. I have lived in London for 36 years and have not been home for 14 years, but I will always have the memories to keep me going. Patrick Clarke - Feb '06
R.E Joe Murphy 24 June 2004. I used to go to school with Joe [St. Anthony's].
I was born and bred in Letitia st. [off Millfield] (Now long gone). We had Jimmy Higgins shop,m Mooney's pub, Pat Carrolls pub and The Curlies, who used to rent out handcarts to the market traders and rag/bone men. You can find me on Friends Reunited/ St. Anthony's School.
Angel Torley - Feb '06
I live at 5, Winetavern Street and have done all my life, My grandmother was born here in 1911 her name was Annie Fields. We are the last of the original families now left in the area and hope to be here for a long time to come. Four generations of our family attended St Anthony's school on Millfield. My mothers name was also Annie Fields before marrying my dad Brian Torley. We have seen so many changes over the years to the area. Sadly Castle Court has ripped the heart out of what used to be a fantastic place to live and we so miss all our old neighbours..
Paula Corr - Feb '06
Re - Mary Jane Burns.
Trying to do my family tree..does anyone know of or related to Mary Jane Burns died, in child birth 1883. lived at 31 Arnon street Belfast. She was married to my great great grandfather Peter Mc Phillips. Any info welcomed.
My father is in his 80's and has never found out much so I would love to help him.
Paul Connolly - Jan '06
My family are the Connolly's who came from Carrick Hill. I have some good stuff at home if anyone has an interest in the area. The Granda (Tommy) was a bookie and hired out bikes 'Connolly's Crocks' - leave a message if you need more info. Berni Muller - January '06
I worked in McGlade's for a couple of years, under my aunt, Kitty McGrogan, who was a supervisor (at the time. John Hart who died tragically in McGlades, was the manager). Eilish was the cook. She cooked a mean fillet steak, topped with tinned mushrooms!! and if you were lucky, you could shake the brown vinegar (brandy) into your coffee, when you were on a break. Gerry Fitt et al were regulars. It was a great time. Jim Quinn - January '06
It was great fun reading this, my recollections of the area go back to the fifties and VERY early sixties, when Smithfield was a useful place to "mich " off school when it was raining, up until the oxford snooker hall opened later in the morning. Some of the people mentioned in the various articles would play snooker in the Oxford at lunchtime, it was great as a 15 year old to listen to their banter, it would make a priceless recording if only .... Marko - Jan '06
...Jim are you writing a book about the area?..I've a wealth of information about the place...have you written any other books about there?
Gerald Franklin - Dec '05
My grandmother, Ellen Trainor (nee Dawson) and aunts ran Dawsons furniture shop in the old Smithfield market. I was brought up in London, but for all the 1950's we went back to belfast (and Ardglass) for our summer holidays. I loved helping in the shop and remember most of the names mentioned here. A trip to the Gresham Street pet shop was always a must just to look round. Opposite our shop was the Central Cinema (I think that was the name) which used to be Dawsons Wholesale Ironmongers, my grandmothers family firm. My grandfather, Jack Trainor, managed the National Club in nearby Queens Street until he died in the 40's. I have very many happy memories of those times. I was so sad when I heard it had burt down.
Rosemarie Farrell - November '05
My Grandmother was Rose Hamilton of the Hamilton clay pipemakers in Belfast. She left Belfast for Scotland and was so ill on the journey over that she never returned home. She met and married my Grandfather in Glasgow and they had five children who in turn provided them with seventeen grandchildren of which I am one. I would dearly like to know more about the family if anyone can help. Barney Donnelly - Nov 05
I was born in Regent street the hill area. I went to St Patricks school, moved from Regents street Ballymurphy. I remember as a kid going round old Smithfield and I used to sell papers round the town and in the market area with my dad and my brothers. At 17 I went away to England and I'm still now living in London over 40 years later. I still go back to Belfast to see my brothers and sisters that live in New Barnsley, Moyard. When I come back home each year me and my brothers have a we dander round town and have our few drinks. Thomas Irvine - October '05
(formerly Stanhope St, Carrick Hill.)
I attended st anthony's school mill field 1945-53 and i left belfast jan 1960 but i still have vivid memories of smithfield. Browsing the market was a regular occurrence and walking toward the market from samuel st past the bus station the first thing you seen was joseph cavanagh on the roof, and if i remember correctly his slogan was (i buy anything). I remember the teachers at the school, i don't recall the name of the lady teacher but the hm was mr o'brien and misters o'shea, mc fadden, mc carthy and rooney. Patsy McCann - Sept '05
Iam now living in Vancouver,Canada, but I lived in Balaclava street Falls road. We used to love going to the Smithfield Market, thats were it all happened on Saturdays, such great memories and innocent fun. Frank Joyce - Sept '05
i worked in HarryHall's bookshop back in 1962. I have some great memories of the market and it,s people. I moved to australia in 1970.It would be great to hear from anyone who worked in the market around that time.
Jim - Sept '05
Hey, I'm doing some research on the Union Street/little donegal street area. Any information as far back as possible would be greatly appreciated from anyone.
David Murphy - August '05
I worked in McMurrays in North Street for five years, starting in 1983. I loved the shop, the staff, and working in that historic old area. Does anyone know where I can get photos and articles about the Store? E J Havlin - July '05
My family still run their business in Smithfield. My father Eddie was the 'Key man in the Safe business' as Havlin's locksmith developed from the market stall to the permanent shop fixture. I've just finished a dissertation on the effect of the fire in 1974 on the Smithfield community & have been lucky to spend some great time with the colourful characters of that era. A very different time. Stephen Montgomery - July '05
My Grandfather William and his sons owned and ran the Montgomery pet shops in Gresham Street, Peters Hill and on the Falls Road. My father and his brothers all took turns in working in the shops over the years till finally only Gresham Street remained opened, till a few years ago. Even during the darkest days of the troubles the pet shop remained opened and was also badly damaged in various bomb attacks. The end came with the redevelopment off the area with Castle Court. Louise Killen - July '05
Peter Hall, U can get lots of pictures of smithfield and carrick hill at the carrich hill hall just phone and ask. I hope this helps. Peter Hall - July '05
My father ran harry halls bookshop for 40 years, and i also worked in the shop for a number of years. I have many happy memories of reading comics and collecting books. Can any one get any good pictures of old smithfield market? send them to me if you can. Gerry Cupples - June '05
My name is francis gerry cupples born 1927 in arnon street my father was bill cupples a docker I have many memories to share I also went to st anthony's i also played in the bus station as a boy also samuel street my sister sall was buried alive on the same night the bus station was bombed in trinity church. Terry McLaughlin - June 05
My father, Jimmy McLaughlin, delivered milk (Kennedy's) in the 50's and 60's around Smithfield area - including Hamil St, John St, Institution Place. I used to help him at weekends and vividly remember Smithfield Market - an absolutely magical place! Jacquie Allen - March '05
I am currently researching information about my grandfather who I believe had a shop/s in the Smithfield area of Belfast in the 1920's - 30's. He was a master confectioner and made his own sweets on the premises. Later he lost his shop and made his sweets at home and transported them to shops around Belfast in a van or later on his bike. His name was Ernest Francis. If anyone has any recollections they would be very gratefully received. Denis Cooke - January '05
My father was born in 11 Winetavern street, his name was Charles Cooke. There were 6 in the family and the last one to live in 11 wintavern street was mollie adams. She died in the 60s'. Next door in number 13 were the Kavanaghs. My fathers mother Jane was one of the Hamiltons who were famous for making clay pipes that were sold all over the world. There is a page on winetavern street in the book As I Roved Out by Cathal o Byrne. I have visited the P.R.O in Belfast and established that there was a Hamilton in Winetavern street since 1829 and the last record was in 1929. When clay pipe making was big business there were a number of families making them in the street ad there was also a factory in Bathgate street off Durham street also run by a Hamilton. I am keen that the name Pipe Lane be retained in any future development of the area. I also hope that the last remaining householders rights are respected. How about a reunion of all interested people soon ? YP&M ED - Denis, we have passed your address on to Rosemarie Farrell - Feb '06. Kathleen Murphy - September '04
My father owned the Smithfield Pet Stores. I worked there for a while when I was a kid. I've been away from Ireland for about 40 years. My brother here in the states could give you all the information you need about it. He has a photographic memory. jm - 25 June 2004
Does anyone recall the pet shops in the Gresham St area of Smithfield? Montgomerys, Murphys, Creightons. Harry Hall, Joe Kavanagh, Cecil Creighton, Tommy Lennon, Eddie Havelin were just some of the shopkeepers in Smithfield. I recently read of a mill disaster in Winetavern St in the 1800s. Joe Murphy - 24 June 2004
Further to my message posted last night, I was thinking of all the public houses in and around the area - the Elephant, the bus bar, the Elm [McLaughlins], the Kingsway, Maddens, Peters, the Cloraine, Carrols, the Avenue, the Brown Horse, Campbells and many many more ..... Joe Murphy - 23 June 2004
I am 48 years old and was born and reared in Samuel Street, Smithfield. I left the area approx 20 years ago and moved to nearby Durham Street. I worked in a fruit shop in Winetavern Street after school and at weekends. My school was St Anthonys in Millfield. We used the old bus station as a playground. Our house was badly damaged when the bus station was bombed in 1972.
If you try www.rushlightbelfast.com there is a lot of info about Smithfield and Belfast in general. Catherine Brown - Feb 08
Looking for anyone with memories of Upton Strett, California Street, and the big park where I played every Saturday my family are the Holden's Dermot finnegan - Feb '08
A BBC DVD entitled The Complete Our Jimmie (James Young)contains a scene where Jimmy has a walk round old Smithfield in its heyday.Very interesting and nostalgic episide for those of us who miss this very essential part of our city. j.clarke - Feb 08
i am trying to find where the Royal Cinema was in belfast.
If anyone knows would you give me this information and maybe some background to it Emmanuel Conway - Feb '08
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