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Renaming James Street

The St Helier Parish assembly has voted to give a street a Portuguese name.

Its official – James Street near Minden Place will become Rue De Funchal following a vote at the Parish Assembly.

After hearing the arguments from both sides the assembly voted by 30 votes to 16 to rename the street.

Constable of St Helier Simon Crowcroft was at the meeting and described the debate as ‘interesting’, read heated.

Constable Crowcroft in Broad Bean Down

Constable Crowcroft

Portuguese role in Jersey

Constable Crowcroft said: "I think some people did express quite strong feelings against the notion, but equally there are some quite strong feelings expressed in favour of it.

"The proposer was Canon France of the Roman Catholic Church and it was seconded by Geraint Jennings of the roads committee. Nick France gave a very useful overview of the Portuguese role in the community as he sees it and Geraint Jennings gave a very historical view of the naming of streets of St Helier.

"He pointed out in particular that streets do change names. King Street for example used to be called Rue de Derriere and not many people regret the loss of the earlier title.”

"The argument about heritage which was used by several people, but it was pointed out that the madeiran community are part of our heritage, they contribute to it and street names are not just about the past they are about the future."

The new road name incorporates a Jersey-french prefix, ‘Rue de’ and the name Funchal will be used to reflect the contribution made by people from Madeira to the island over the last half century and the upcoming twinning with Funchal.

The street was chosen partly because of the high number of James Streets in the island, although this was challenged by some of the speakers at the assembly.

Town hall

The town hall hosted Madeira Day

Erosion of Jersey heritage

Constable Crowcroft said: "Some of the speakers who stood up to oppose the renaming actually called it St James Street. There is only one recorded incident where post has been sent to the wrong place, but anecdotally there is evidence of confusion."

However, the main objection was a feeling that the renaming was symptomatic of an erosion of Jersey’s heritage. This proved not to be too much of an issue as the 2 to 1 vote margin showed.

Constable Crowcroft is quick to point out there will be a period allotted in order that the necessary paperwork can be tidied up.

He said: "This not going to happen tomorrow, there needs to be a period where businesses can make changes to their websites and discussions needs to take place with the post office.

"I anticipate that this is going to happen some time next year, hopefully in conjunction with some kind of finishing off of the twinning. We are hoping to bring over the Mayor of Funchal over to Jersey to sign the agreement on our soil as it was signed a year ago in Funchal."

Have your say

Do you agree with the assembly's decision to rename the street? What other streets could be renamed? Will we see a polish street in the future?

last updated: 31/07/2009 at 13:07
created: 30/07/2009

Have Your Say

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TheBean
Why not name it after that great Club of yesteryear Raffles.Call it Raffles St.

Dave
Lynn,There are already a few scottish street names. Caledonia, Balmoral and Midlothian.

rob
last person to leave.take the flag

cilass
With all due respect Guerrero I am jersey born as are my parents, grandparents etc

Uncle Jack
So are we to get a Rue du Jersey in Funchal, Madeira? Can't believe a renaming of a street has brought on the question of nationality and immigration/immigrants. My life will be so affected by this street name change, that I may follow suit with my real name. Sad the lot of you, and anyway can't believe a debate was held by 30+16=46 people that's almost the whole population who gave a cr@p about this. Politicians there are more important issues to be sorted than, changing a name of a street. Just please try and spell it correctly.

Flash
Guerrero: To suggest that only those who speak Jerriais are not foreigners is completely erroneous. We are a British island, but we're a British island where any nationality is free to live and work as long as they contribute (which most immigrant folk do.)Are Channel Islanders living on the mainland supposed to feel foreign?

Lynn
carl,I was not complaining merely pointing out that there are many other immigrants on the island who contribute greatly to the community.

Lynn
carl,I was not complaining merely pointing out that there are many other immigrants on the island who contribute greatly to the community.

Guerrero
@chris what racists, everyone is a foreigner in Jersey but no one realizes it, do you speak Jèrriais?????????????? British people are foreigners here but think it's their Island

Rodders
What I want to know is, what will happen if the standard of living in Portugal improves and we get immigrants from places like Albania or Rumania, who are actually quite poor in comparison; if Eastern Europeans do supersede the local Portuguese community will they have a road named after them?What about slaves from Poland,Spain and the Soviet Union who were forced to construct the Underground Hospital by the Wehrmacht forces stationed here during the Occupation - is there a monument to them?

Shell
What is the point of changing it's name anyway? Regardless of what too, why?

Brands
Rather than making local place-naming even more exotic, they should be concentrating on "Britannifying" it.Yes, local immigrant communities should be honoured but, instead of this silly token gesture, why not a plaque or statue in Howard Davis Park?The other thing is, how come all of the folks who are contributing to this debate are locals - why haven't the immigrants themselves expressed their opinions?! I'm convinced that it would make this debate far more balanced and convincing.

Carl
lynn, considering that a massive influx of Scottish, Irish, English & Welsh effectively took over what was a Jersey-French speaking island from the 1800s onwards, I don't think you can reasonably complain!It could have been renamed in honour of the Scottish as Jimmy Street :)

Chris
The good thing about this whole debacle is how it has highlighted the sheer number of racists in this small island! I find some of the comments disgusting...

Dave
What a load of trash is being banded about just because a road is named, what islanders should really worry about is the brave soldiers who are out fighting in Afganistan to give us all a right to freedom, those on here who criticise our fellow europeans should hang their heads in shameover such a paltry issue. I think they need to go out more they are pathetic

Grange
It's stupid and not the time to change street names.It won't create more jobs, make life better bring people together so why waste time??????????Jersey is Jersey and should stay that way, People forget that this is not England, Portugal, Scotland etc. We moved here to live together but should accept the heritage etc. like it always has been.

Flash
Rue De Derrier was renamed King Street.Perhaps they should rename James St as Rue De Derriere because that's where it feels we're being kicked in...

Paul Gonsalves
It's true that local immigrant communities contribute immensely to the local economy and society, but there are far better ways to express gratitude and appreciation than to foreignise local place-naming; take gatronomical and folklore events, for instance, they can be frequented and enjoyed by outsiders and locals alike without causing offence.I am convinced that many islanders will take offence at this decision, which will actually have a detrimental effect in that it will create the impression that local immigrant communities do not need to integrate.I see no need for a Rue de Funchal any more than for a Gdansk Avenue. Immigrants should respect the fact that the best way to be respected and admired is to contribute to the island but without feeling the need to influence it with an excessive ammount of their cultural and emotional baggage. Being of immigrant extraction myself, I never felt well integrated (although some of my counterparts were luckier in this respect),which is precisely one of the reasons why I decided not to return to Jersey after leaving university on the mainland. The other point is that, sometimes, immigrant communities tend to be passing phases - will Jersey end up a Vilnius Place if it receives a large number of workers from the Baltic states? Would they change Vilnius Place to Istambul Place if the Baltic immigrants were superseded by Anatolians?These are all pertinent issues which I think the St. Helier parish assembly may not have fully considered.Rue de Funchal doesn't even sound logical - it sounds like a kind of Franco-Portuguese pastiche of a word!I wish the powers that be in Jersey considered the opinions of the wider community before making these decisions.

lynn
what about all the hard working Scottish, Irish, English & Welsh residents, when will they be honoured

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