Talking Jersey

richard
how many people in the uk want a smoking banned in public places and who doesnt want it

trina
all you anti smokers you make me laugh i smoke my best mate dosnt but she isnt anti smokeing when will you anti smokers see that all this banning is a money makeing scheme if we all stoped smoking and driving this country would come to a hault they should do non smoking pubs and clubs resterants and so on whats next then banning anyone in your car apart from the driver why make the bloody fags then if they didnt we couldnt buy them!(oh yeh i forgot we smokers who pay the highest tax help make this country go round)so of course they cant do a complete ban or you anti smokers will be hit very hard in the pocket!!!!!!!!!!

Mark
I agree with a partial ban, there should be smoking & no smoking areas then everybody has a choice. As for a street ban, Car fumes & industrial fumes do much more harm than cigarette smoke. I don’t drive so why should I breathe in drivers car fumes while outside? A total ban is unfair & breaches my human rights. Should we ban everything that can be detrimental to our health? I don’t think so. I should have the right to smoke outside as the smoke disappears into the atmosphere. Pubs, Clubs & restaurants should have separate areas then no one is forced to smoke or not to smoke. I plan to immigrate back to Australia where I was born as this Country goes further downhill ever year. Before long we will be paying Oxygen tax & street tolls. It is becoming more & more of a Country for the Rich & privileged. As for smokers being Junkies, if that's the case then all coffee, tea & alcohol drinkers are drug users. Passive smoking is just an excuse for the government to take away another human right.

Katey
Ban all motor vehicles.. I hate breathing in all their disgusting fumes - the smoking ban is cr*p and another way the government sees its role interfering in people's lives.

dr.suzan
hey i think smoking should be baned because it affects our health or lives

Adrian Godfrey
The publican should decide. If there is a market, why don't non-smoking pubs exist already?After the smoking ban, what next? Alcohol prohibition? and after that whatever else the nanny state takes a dislike to.The issue is CONTROL by the politicians.

bum
it is a good idea to ban smoking

STOP SMOKING
RIGHT WELL WERE DO I START, STOP SMOKING ITS HORRIBLE I DO NOT WANT TO INHAIL ALL YOUR DIRTY TABACCO!!! I WISH THEY WOULD JUST GET PATCHES OR SOMETHING. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE BAN I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN I AM ON PUBLIC TRANSPORT AN ALSO ANYWHERE WHEN PEOPLE SMOKE AROUND ME!!I DONT WANT TO DIE UNLIKE YOU LOT!

vince
well realli its stupid but i dont think u shuld smoke round ur kids cause they dont want second hand smoke neither first

simon
it should be left for the publican to deside if they want to have smoking or not its there home

MONICA BUCKLE
I THINK IT IS THE PERSONS CHICE WEATHER THEY SMOKE OR NOT.BUT IT IS UNFAIR ON CHILDREN IF THEY ARE BREATHING IN THE SMOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott Blyth
I live in Scotland where the ban is on all public places and I believe my quality of life has been greatly improved since the ban!

Somalaraju Vijaya Prakash Raju
Smoking in public is totally ridiculous. Although people have a right to smoke, people also have the right to breathe in clean air. The smoker's right cancels out the vast majority of people's right to breathe; thus, smoking in public should be banned. I (nor do you) do not deserve to die just because some idiot likes to smoke filth into his/her lungs. Use common sense, people: Smoking is dangerous! Not just to the smoker, but to the innocent bystanders. For every 8 smokers the tobacco industry kills, 1 non-smoker goes with them. That's horrible! Something needs to be done--immediately.

annoymous
i think that the smoking will not work because if you see someone smoking in the street what will you do? Take them to prison!

billy sastard
how much more proof do we need before we realise we dont live in a free country? if we belive that the government are worried about our health then we deserve to be led ashtray, sorry astray.....were going to die one day anyway so why not enjoy this short life by doing what we like to do, some of us smoke and some of us drink some do both, all its going to do is make more people want to smoke to rebel against the pathetic society we live in.

sandy
quite right smoke nasty your comments would make do for a very chessy car sticker from the 1980s

against the smoking ban
we dont stop people drinking and getting lashed, the drinkers are more harmful to us then smoking, people who drink to much in public places 9 times out of ten get violent and abusive, smokers dont, so why should we stop smoking but allow people to drink excesivly in public places, to make it fair then put a drink limmit in every pub, club, restuarant per-person!

ollie
ban smoking it is disguisting

timothy ho
i think u just need to ban in all restaurants and parks. in the public place, there is no point to ban it.

timothy ho
i think u just need to ban in all restaurants and parks. in the public place, there is no point to ban it.

j.rosser
It is another erosion of our hard won and deeply important liberal democracy ; the salami effect. The government are prepared to use our money to employ enforcment officers, when pensioners receive terribly little money, and single parents are forced to put their tiny children and babies into day care in order to have anything like enough money to live on.This is not to mention the replusive waste of our resources destroying the lives of vast numbers of families in Irac. The shop a smoker hotline frankly gives me the shivers.

Luke Small
Okay, so the smoking ban is in place. I do smoke but not in restauarants and in that scenario I can see why the implications of smoking have lead to a ban. But nightclubs? Surely we are taking this a step too far. I can see this becoming more than its worth and what happens to those who dont comply? Do we lock them up in a cell for the night because they had a cigarette? I see fire alarms ringing because someone didnt want to go outside! "Drink and be merry, but smoke and your a social outcast" - how sad.

Smoke Nasty
Smokers smoke and the residue of their habit is first and second hand smoke which people inevitably inhale against their wishes. Drinkers drink and the residue of their habit is urine. People don't allow drinkers to urinate on them against their wishes so why should they have to inhale smokers smoke against their wishes?

Nick Robson
People who smoke are drug addicts. Pure and simple. Nicotine is highly addictive and the other chemicals in cigarettes are highly toxic. If smokers want to smoke in public places where other people are eating and drinking, then would they want addicts smoking crack, or heroin addicts shooting up around them and their kids whilst they eat and drink? Probably not. Smoking is an evil habit, most smokers don't even realise they are junkies. Plus worst of all, cigarettes are a socially acceptable drug whose tax money goes into the States' coffers. Get real. The ban is for everyone's benefit, even the smokers themselves.

Fred
It's about time that smoking is banned from all public areas. there is nothing worse than having to endure that horrible smell, whils knowing that the person emitting it is silently killing you and everyone in the surrounding area. The evidence is overwhelming.. Passive smoking kills, hence smokers are killers!! Do the right thing and introduce the ban for all our sakes.

Mack
Let's put some figures on this then, Currently the states bring in £12million in duty on tobbaco (ref 2006 Budget), guess what, stop every one smoking and suddenly there is a 12m gaping hole that will need to be filled. Shall we try and guess where it will come from? 1) More duty on Alcohol? 2) Higher Rate of GST? 3) Higher Taxes? 4) More Duty on Road Fuel? = Higher Taxi / Bus prices 5) Higher Parking Charges? Oh hang on this suddenly affects everybody in their own pocket. You will pay out of your won pockets for this smoking ban, regardless of wether you smoke or not.

Sqn Leader C Gull
“an ugly site with butts all over the floor” ??? Are you talking about Cosmo on a Saturday night by any chance ?

sooty
wats the point of discussing it, the state have made there descision. who are we, we just have to obey there policies. freedom of choice, yeh right.strange thing is those policy makers r tucked up in there rich homes and never go out to the pub where the real working man goes 4 his pint and fag after work. so wat if this is wat we want to do who do they think there are,, its about time people of jersey got rid of all the dead wood and old fashioned states members. but they do as they please...

hannah
i do hate smoking, i think it is an absolutely horrible addiction and i am glad that it is being banned, if you want to smoke then smoke at home but dont subject other people to your nasty habits. smoking is such an ugly site with butts all over the floor and people standing about just smoking, its horrible and it makes our country look uncivilised and sloppy.

Sqn Leader C Gull
Right on Robb ! Lets give those illiterate loon balls a double smoke ring of nicotine stained fingers up to ther inabitly 2 eeven spel an put togever da sentance. Recommend that they spend more time reading a fine book and learning basic punctuation whilst chuffing away on a damn good lung torpedo. Yellow handed high five.

robb
I think there should be a ban on all people making comments who can't spell. Then there would only be a couple of paragraphes of this ill informed 'I think' drivel to read. I've been smoking like a beagle since I started reading this! I CAN spell paragraphs, that was just a typo! The E's too close to the S for my big smokey fingers!

Corbin
We all know that smokers will disagree with a ban, partial or otherwise, and non smokers will agree, so lets go with a public vote - the minority, the smokers, will lose. Job done. Decision made. Why debate at all ?

Suzanne
I believe that smoking should be banned in all public spaces; including the streets.

Jersey Smiler
There should be no smoking where food is being served regardless whether it's indoors or al fresco. There's nothing worse than trying to enjoy refreshments al fresco with a smoker next to you. Smokers clothes smell, their breath stinks so why should I have to put up with their anti-social habit?

Jack
Do we know yet if the number of people smoking has dramatically reduced in Ireland and Scotland since the ban has been introduced?

Geoff Grose
Total ban is the only way to look after workers and the general public who choose not to smoke. We already have no smoking in cinemas, public transport the next logical step is ban the smoke!!

jamie keay
i smoke but why do i have to give

Jersey Joe
Of course it should be banned for the health and safety of the workers and the punters in smoke filled pubs. If a total ban can work in Ireland and Scotland it will work in Jersey. What is there to debate? The States should stop messing around and bring in the ban asap.

ramon
i hate smoking

Tom
I'd rather smokers smoked in their own shops or pubs that allowed smoking. I own an internet cafe and have to constantly ask smokers to not smoke outside the shop when the door is open as their smoke comes inside.

Mike
Il just smoke outside the pub. how hard is that?As for a ban on smoking outside, as a smoker, I'd also like to see a ban on other public nuisances, exhaust fumes, buskers out side my house all day, children who cry, ugly people, charity workers with clipboards, people who smell, over weight people shovelling food into themselves in restraunts, Morris Dancers, chavs (teenage or otherwise), lager louts, and Tories. I would suggest there are probably more important things to worry about to be honest.

lee
why does jersey have to copy what the english government do. let the people of jersey decide on this issue. at the end of the day the non smoking states members have already made there mind up and the people have no freedom of choice. i lost a member of my family thru lung cancer AND HE NEVER WENT TO PUBS AND NEVER SMOKED..........

popeye
why not make some bars smoking and some not,,wat about the working man who likes his pint and a smoke if u dont want to go in to a designated smoking pub dont go in.. wat are the the states to do when there is a shortfall of money they get of tax of cigarettes. put income tax up again to compensate for it. all the non smokers can have something to whinge about then.i agree with no smoking in food areas but for heavens sake give people the choice. put it to the vote and see the outcome..instead of just making laws because you are anti smokers ...

Puffa
Live and let live, leave people to do what they want with the life they are given.Stop telling people what to do,there is so much of it on this Island.

Mandy Vincent
This is what I think to the ban-I smoke Hubby of 32 years never has. I like a nice cup of coffee with a ciggie, Then later with Bacardi and coke, But after Autumn leaves, I will NOT – stand outside and Freeze, For an evening to relax without a smoke. I know I’m not alone in my thinking, The difference, may be my choice of drinks, But one thing is for sure, I know their are many more, Even tolerant non-smokers, think this ban just stinks..

Charles
Too right the crazy man wants to ban it outside!! C Gull you get it smack on!! Kiki problem with the antismokers is they are son self rightous that they cant really see what theyre doing- aka ramming their views down other peoples throats!! Whats wrong with letting the venue owner decide?? Just show a clearly signposted smoking policy!! If bar workers dont like SHS and they keep on complaining either complain to the owner/manager and if that fails they ought to seek work elsewhere!! This is none of the governments' business!!

Chris
It is now much cheaper and more hospitable to go to Spain than Jersey. Around 25% of the poulation smoke, vote and have disposable income. Any government of a country that cannot provide for the needs of such a large minority is politically inept. Evidence of smoking prevalence in Ireland shows that smoking rose continuously for 14 out of 15 months and after 2 years was only 0.5% below pre-ban levels. Maybe education and considered restrictions are a more acceptable solution.

rodger
good this is good

kaz
i think the smoking ban is a good idea and agree that non-smokers shouldn't have to put up with passive smoke. if you look at ireland and other places where this has been brought in it doesn't really affect the smokers and infact most support the ban. it allows them to cut down or quit but doesn't force them to do so. as for the comments about drinking and how people shouldnt have to put up with aggressive behaviour, i think its a little harsh to blame people who drink for rape and violence, those who do commit these offences are going to do it whether they drink or not, but at least if theyre drunk then they can blame the alcohol and not themselves. you have also made out that everyone who drinks is a bad person but i have never once entered a fight or been nasty to anyone when drunk so perhaps you should look further than the very few who spoil it

brian
why should us non smokers have to put up with smoking,we never decieded to smoke.yet we have to suffer through no fault of our own.......

druggy
you should banned smoking it a discusting habbit

penny
you should baned smoking it a discusting habbit

Darren Fossvold
If we ban smoking outside, it is therefore only fair to ban all cars from eating areas too so we don't have to inhale the ultra toxic fumes that those vile cars create.On your bike Mr Syvret.

i agree with everybody that says we should ban smoking in public places. I also think that smoking should be kept away from all children in the area of the smoker.

Ricky
Personally I would prefer to have seen pubs apply for a smoking licence.

It could start with all pubs being non-smoking by default but giving a pub the opportunity to apply for a smoking licence.

It could be done so only a certain number of pubs in any area is allowed to be smoker friendly.

The licence could be expensive and the money from the licence go to the health service.

Sqn Leader C Gull
What a bunch of loonies ! Aside from the illiterate posts by the under tens and semi retarded on this message board, most of you don’t realise that smokers not only fund the health service but provide the dutiful deed of dying before they cash their full pensions – thus leaving you whinging non smokers financially better off in later life. In a couple of years time, when the health geeks have their wish of a utopian smoke free island, you will be reaping your own whirlwind of increased taxes and pubs reeking non longer of cigarette smoke, but the smell of your own flatulence caused by too much procrastination of issues which, quite frankly, bore most intelligent people. Anyone got a light ?

J
Smoking is the biggest PREVENTABLE cause of death in the UK.... fact. People are complaining about the loss in tax revenue because of this ban, but the money saved by H&SS over time because of people smoking less will compensate for this. Also, the amount saved by businesses that have to endure workers taking time off due to smoking-related illnesses will be paid in tax, and yet more money will be saved. We also must not forget that a total ban will not cause EVERYONE to give up, and people will still pay taxes on tobacco products becausse they still have the right to continue, but they will just have to do it outside. This ban is not just about the health problems cause by passive smoking. I agree that smoking does affect the comfort of non-smokers in pubs and clubs. Why should a non-smoker have to endure such disomfort as smelling bad, having a sore throat and eyes and generally feeling very uncomfortable because someone else wants to satisfy a habit that affect their's and others' health?

Marc
i smoke and i am all in favour of the no smoking law, It would help me quit, alot of my mates in uni dont smoke so i found it easy to quit. but when i came home everyone was smoking and it made me pick it up again.

Sonia Dickens
I was born in Jersey and now live in NZ. We introduced a smoking ban in all public places last year. The hospitality trade initially reported a slump in trade but this soon picked up once everyone got used to the idea. It works brilliantly with most pubs providing an outside area for smokers and of course it means that hospitality staff can save their lungs from second hand smoke! Now it's as if it has never been any different.

Kiki
I agree with the people saying that clubs/pubs that don't serve food should have the right to allow smoking if they want but these places should have clearly placed signs indicating that they are smoking venues. Also totally banning smoking in workplaces is bit of an unfair idea, I think that workplaces should have designated smoking areas that are as far away as possible from the non smoking areas. I do not want anti-smoking people forcing their agenda on me but I am willing to come to a compromise.

Guy Fawkes
Non-smokers should not have to deal with the by products of those that smoke. If, however, smoking bars are available for those that choose to smoke and the employees agree to work in those establishments... why is legislation necessary..? Hopefully, this will not set a very dangerous precedent for enacting laws to prohibit behaviour which is no longer fashionable. Once you let Government interfere with the private lives of citizens...you have opened "Pandora's Box"....!!

"GTR"
"LIVE AND LET LIVE" DONT SMOKE!

jack
I think other people should not hvav 2 smoke with u, wen its not ther choice 2! your not jus killing your self but others 2..how does tht feel!

Angie
I am very much against smoking and hate it if anyone smokes near to me. I am totally in favour of Senator Syvrets plans.....but let us also look carefully at the problems caused by alcohol, apart from the health issues there are many social problems caused by the abuse of alcohol and abuse (mostly of woman and children) is jsut the beginning. What about all the violence, fighting, public disorder and other acts of crime that are committed after people have drunk too much...

Johnathan Pulido
I think that smoking should be banned at all public areas because secondhand smoke can be as deadly as actally smoking.

jenny
I think no should be aloud to smoke! age 6

Chris
I agree that smoking is bad for you but we have what is called human rights. It is my right to smoke if i want like it is a right for people to get drunk and be sick over my garden! 24 bars? but i will not be able to enjoy them due to this ban. why not adopt the Africans approach and provide seperate rooms / venues for smokers?

peter allen
I believe that smoking should be baaed in all public areas because why should other people suffer for others hobbies?

chris brecon
smoking should be banned cause it is disgusting habit and it kills people not hell them. Peolpe at my school smoke and i can tell there not gonna have a successful life when there older

Moll
I think they should put a ban on smoking in areas were theres being food served. Some people might say you might aswell just ban drinking aswell but thats not true because smoking affects you and others but drinking only affects the person doing it .Many people are put off by places were people are aloud to smoke because they may find it unhealthy and its just as bad to smoke than to be with someone smoking.

Da Jungalist
Ban tobbaco and let people smoke the Herb. It will stop people being such idiotic drunken T w a T s. Den the violence and agro on the streets might cease. Jah rasta fari.Boomshenka.

kyle warner
i think that smoking should only be banned in pubs and clubs also around food!

she gets the blokes because she smokes
says if she has to chuff outside and ends up with pneumonia it'll cost the health service even MORE!

JAYNE
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, YOU ARE GIVING THE SMOKERS A ROUGH TIME, I AM A TEE-TOTTLER AND I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST THE NEW LAW THEY ARE THINKING OF BRINGING IN OF 24 HOUR DRINKING, YOU ALL MOAN ABOUT HAVING TO PUT UP WITH SMOKE ETC!!! AND IF THIS LAW COMES IN WHY ON EARTH SHOULD I HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THE DRUNKS AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT, SICK ALL OVER THE PLACE, URINATING,I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT OFFENSIVE BEHAVIOUR, SO DON'T GIVE SMOKERS SUCH A HARD TIME, WHEN ALL THIS DRINKING WILL ONLY MEAN MORE VIOLENCE, RAPES, ETC!! & WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO STREETS IN SAFETY.

Tracey
I am so fed up with all the bitching about smokers, Almost everyone in the world has the right to live their own lives, to do what they wish, its called HUMAN RIGHTS. So lets have smoking AND non-smoking bars/restaurants. Staff can choose where they want to work (smoking or non), That way EVERYONE HAS A CHOICE. and if your a non-smoker dont go to a smoking establishment, that stops that argument. I dont believe doctors tell us all the facts about smoking as on an America West Flight in Feb 2005 an article in there in-flight magazine was headlined 'What doctors wont tell you about smoking" it tells you that after surgery to have stents put in a blocked artery it is beneficial to smoke for 3 to 6 months as the carbon monoxide keeps the arteries open. so all you medical men give us ALL the Facts. Taxes, it is a valid point most of the money spent on a packet of fags is tax. Also as i am on a Private Health Plan (so therefore pay for any treatment i recieve if i am ill) Can I not claim back all the tax i have paid on fags over the last 28 years ?, At the end of the day everything in life has an effect on your health or well being, be it Smoking, Drinking, Eating, Driving, Sunshine and numerous others. I say LIVE AND LET LIVE and all you moaners find something important to whinge about.

Charlz
I think it should be a complete ban, if smokers wish to smoke whilst they are out and about then they should go outside (even if it is cold). I do smoke and have done so for far too many years now. Banning smoking in all public places is beneficial to everyones health - that can not be argued. The sooner the complete ban is effective the better.

patray
john i think your the idiot here,to beleive all that rubbish about smoking.look up Forces for the record i don,t smoke,but i,m all for freedom of choice,why demonise smokers when it is a perfectly legal activity ,the anti,s are abunch of freaks who have nothing better to do than terrories people to their way of thinking.the heavily funded propaganda from anti-smokers would have us believing that smoking harms non-smokers-this is wholly unscientific & not backed up by a single fact.as for stinking of smoke every time you go out that dosent give you right to think you are any better than others.i dont like drunkards,and plenty of other activities created by the human race but i would not condemn it.what bothers me about this smoking ban is i have 3 very good friends who smoke and they will not be welcome to smoke in pubs,nor will they go outside to smoke & be treated like second class citizens so the ban will effect me,there are 8 of us that go out regular,but after the ban we intend to support our smoking friends & have our nights out at each others houses instead.so you see this ban will isolate people,when it would have been so simple to let landlords choose what they wanted.

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Partray is a mup
Partray - the increase in smoking was led by hitler like companies marketing smoking to the world, it increased because major corporations told the world of its fantastic benefits! Its not the nanny state, its the just the world making amends from the bollocks spotted by smoking corporations in the last century that got most of the world addicted to smoking! Smoking kills it is a fact and I don't particularly want smoke going in my face! Its not the nanny state, its just the state acting on the majority of its voters wishes!

Joker C
An increase in taxes is not as valid an argument against the banning of smoking as it may first appear: The potential increase in tax to compensate for the lost duty will be less than the money a smoker would save quitting! The net effect will most likely mean the smoker who has quit will be better off financially!! Not to mention all the extra disposable income you will have to put back into Jersey's economy. The reduction of the financial strain on H&SS caused by smoking related issues will help towards your state pensions – to pay for you living longer. As for businesses – what about all those working days lost through illnesses partly caused by the unhealthy habit - how much does that cost the Island? OK I haven’t the figures to back this up – but nor do you to say we will all be financially crippled if people stop smoking.

John
patray you're an idiot - the reason people like me don't want smoking in pubs and clubs and support the governments stance is because we don't like stinking after a night out.

Maybe it's because you smoke and already smell that you don't notice it but after coming out of a club/pub from a night out I smell, I cough and I feel horrible for a few days afterwards.

The Orwelian nightmare you are trying to portay of a control freak state is nonsense - all this ban is is a way of preserving the comfort and health of society as a whole.

It's not about your right to smoke (you can still do that outside and in your own home) it's about MY right not to breath your smoke.

Even if the nonsense propeganda put out by the smoking lobbyists and tobacco companies turns out to be true (no harm form passive smoking - but then didn't they say no harm from smoking either originally?) the other effects - the discomfort, the smell all still outweigh the smokers 'right' to light up in a public building!

JANE
I WOULD JUST TO SAY TO ALL YOU PEOPLE AGAINST SMOKING, I DON'T SMOKE MYSELF BUT I DO THINK THEY ARE GETTING A ROUGH RIDE, I DON'T DRIVE BUT I HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL YOUR HARMFUL FUMES WHILE I WALK EVERYWHERE, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE ALL THE CARS OFF THE ROAD, I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!! BUT WHAT IS MAKING ME THINK TWICE ABOUT THIS & WORRIES ME IN A WAY, IS WHERE IS ALL THIS EXTRA MILLIONS OF POUNDS GOING TO COME FROM, IT IS GOING TO BE PUT ON OUT TAX, AND I DON'T THINK ALL YOU PEOPLE WILL BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT IF THE TAX BILLS GO UP BY 20% FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THAT, AND FOR ANOTHER ONE I COULD NOT AFFORD TO PAY MORE.

I THINK PUB LANDLORDS WHO DON'T SELL FOOD, SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WETHER TO HAVE A SMOKING OR NON-SMOKING PUB, AND THEN WITH SIGNS OUTSIDE PEOPLE CAN DECIDE IF THEY WISH TO ENTER THOSE PREMISES.

THERE MUST BE A REASONABLE OUTCOME OF THIS TO PLEASE BOTH SIDES.

patray
your body belongs to the nation! yourbody belongs to the fuhrer! you have the duty to be healthy!food is not a private matter!(german nationalsocialist slogan,1937-1944)

hitler was also anti smoking!!! the day will come when scales are fitted on the outside of restaurants. sweets will be banned or limited to 1 bar a week for the overweight.drinks will be totalled on a smart card and nobody can buy 1once they are over the limitfor the week.cars will be scrapped by law once they are over a certain age. parents will be fined for every pound overweight their kids are.hospitals will refuse to treat you if you take up a sport which may damage you. stamping out smoking will stamp out the health service,i hope all you anti-smokers will be as cocky when the nanny state comes down on you like a ton of bricks,and i kid you not it will!!!!!!!!! are all the smoking pensioners a figment of our imagination? if you bothered to research forest it will show you all the lies and propaganda spread over the world by ASH and pharmicial companies to sell their quit smoking products.they are giving the government thousands of pounds and bonuses to push their wares,and keep up the lies that second-hand smoking kills.why are we all still here if that was the case most people smoked in the thirties forties etc with no ill affect on childen,and if we were to believe what nanny says we should never have been born at all.p.smy mother and her neighbour have smoked for 63 and 65 years and are both in good health!!!!!!!!be careful what you wish for as the saying goes it might come true

Lucky strike is a mup
Lucky Strike - your plans will fail, it is inevitable that Jersey will follow the UK and ban smoking in public places. Not sure if your cloud cuckoo land comment is about making smoking illegal across the board or just banning it in public places, if it is about public places then your in cloud cuckoo land mate because Jersey will follow this first world trend.

Martin
The whole smoking in pubs and clubs is about a LOT more than health although that is an important side effect.

The most important thing for me is being able to go for a night out and not coming back and have to put all my clothes striahg in the washing because they stink to high heaven of cigarette smoke, find my breathing bad for the next few days 'again' because of the smoke, and find my eyes, hair and whole body smelling so bad I have to shower twice before going to bed just to be confortable.

It's more about comfort for non-smokers than any health issue - a smoker can go outside without effecting anyone else but themselves - a non-smoker has to decide not to go out at all to avoid your smoke.

Joker C
J.D.A:- M Butler's comments clearly referred to the UK & not "world-wide". Neck & neck in the fight to be the UK's biggest killer is cancer & heart disease. Smoking has a massive impact on the former - no surprise lung cancer is at the top then, & a considerable impact on the latter - as much as diet. The only country that boasts obesity is killing more than smoking is the USA (er... roughly 5% of "world-wide" population)- & even they can't agree on that one. Fact is smoking contributes to the majority of early deaths & I don’t want to become another statistic simply because some else has a filthy habit!

Lucky Strike
Most of you lot who want to ban smoking are living in cloud cuckoo land. At the moment, the price of a packet of ciggies is almost a fiver. Who do you think takes the bulk of that five pounds ? Its not the nice man in the corner shop. Neither is it the makers of the cigarette. The vast majority goes to the government. They want you to smoke. It is an enormous source of tax revenue from people. It funds the health service. People who smoke don’t live as long as non smokers. Therefore no long term pension costs. If smoking was banned, revenue would have to be raised from other sources – food, clothes, petrol. Lets make things nice and easy. No smoking where food is served. Pubs and clubs can choose to be either smoking or no smoking then let the customer choose where they wish to drink.

Ashley Ford
I'm a smoker and I think it's a good idea. At the end of the day, if you cant smoke in these places then you have no choice. It's a step in the right direction for everyones health for sure. J.D.A - what are you on about ?? Of course obesity isnt the biggest killer. Stop being ridiculous. Heart disease, Cancer, AIDS and malaria all kill more people then obesity ever will.

Mr Lambert Butler
Smokers cannot be discriminated against, it purely isnt fair, then why don't we ban drinking?... because that causes more problems than smoking and its perfectly legal. On the other hand, international trends are proving that places where public smoking is banned (ie New zealand, canada, now Ireland too) is improving the reputaion of that country in terms of tourist visitors and social standards.

Daniel
I smoke and enjoy smoking, and I understand that makes me a truly evil person. But don't worry, I'll be dead soon! If I can't smoke in a pub, then I'll either go outside (if there's a beer garden) or just stay at home. Many people I know think like this as well. Not many smokers are going to just give up at the drop of a hat (or a law). I don't believe this law is going to affect anyone but the owners of the buisnesses, but then I also believe this is a law that is built more on hype and politics than any real care for people's health.

J.D.A
ACTUALLY MICHAEL BUTLER, OBESITY IS NOW THE BIGGEST KILLER WORLD-WIDE, SO GET YOUR QUOTES CORRECT, AND THAT GOES TO ALL PEOPLE WHO THINK SMOKING IS THE BIGGEST KILLER, WELL YOU HAVE GOT IT ALL WRONG.

Rob
I think a TOTAL BAN is the way to go. I recently went on holoday to Canada and they don't allow smoking in pubs or clubs and it was so much nicer. Your get home and your clothes and hair don't smell of smoke like they do over here.

Carlos A. Ramos
Thought I would throw in my 2 cents from the other side of the Atlantic.

Many moons ago when the evils of smoking were portrayed by smoking machines puffing away showing what they were doing to our lungs, teeth, future girl friends I wondered when they would stop selling this terrible poison plant.

When the medics got in to it, well, there it was, proof positive that we were killing hundreds of thousands of people.

I truly believed that soon they would ban the sale of the dreadful cigs!!! WHAT??? And lose all that money??? Nah... Let's just restrict them to little areas and as they die off, well, we'll raise the price and maybe even get a few extra bucks out of the whole thing.

So what if we let a few million kill themselves off. Think of the money!!! Then, lo and behold we spread the word of this wonderful money maker along with a final solution to those dirty smokers and their filthy habits to all that would listen, and the countries lined up. But wait...the medics said it was an addiction! you know, like Heroin and cocaine and such. Well, well, better yet, we have created the Golden Goose of all time. And lo the people smiled and cast their eyes in search of other habits.

To all the righteous I say, who among you will stand up for a ban on the sale of tobacco???

PS There are counter arguments to all the known excuses.

Michael Butler
I personally believe that smoking should be banned in public places. It is the biggest killer in the UK. It is a filthy habit that most people don’t want to start! A person who smokes thinks that they are “cool”. That is the main reason for many smokers under the age of sixteen. These peoples bodies haven’t fully developed yet, and to smoke would cause a considerable amount of damage to their bodies and its development! From my own research, most said they only smoke to be in the image, to blend in! After they smoke for a while, they will want to experiment other things, try new drugs. This could all be avoided if the ban was brought into action!

Ugo A
I have been advocating for a total smoking ban in public places where food is served for a long time.

One should rid of all ideas, opinions and reports from scientist and non, but consider the fact that smoking in public places where children, non-smokers adults and restaurant staff is rather selfish. This ban eventually will arise to constant arguments, a lot of paper and ink will be wasted as well as problems about how to police it; Eventually all that will be needed will be a little bit of will and common sense from both parties of smokers and non smokers.

A little story of what happened the other night at my restaurant; A lady sitting with her friend who happened to be pregnant, comes to the bar area and asks me if it would be allright to smoke at the bar and politely I replied "yes of course she could" but wanting to stir things up I continued by saying that she could smoke at her table if she wished; the answer? Oh no thanks my friend is pregnant and I don't want to smoke close to her.

In her opinion she felt free to smoke in front of our staff without any problem.

I am very much looking forward to the ban, but whenever it will come into force it will have been many month too late.

Tracey
Im a Smoker and disagree with a total ban, but if it becomes law then so be it. maybe outside areas of pubs and restaurants should be smokers only ?. but then non-smokers would complain about their right to sit outside. we can't win. but a warning, if i am outside smoking and someone complains (and they do) expect a mouthfull.

Ross N
True, smokers are well entitled to the same rights as non-smokers. Hence, non-smokers should have the right to a smoke-free environment to work/dine/drink in. Smoking is a choice made by smokers, don't deprive those who have chosen not to of THEIR rights.

J.D.A
WELL I AM A NON-SMOKER, AND I THINK THEY SHOULD ONLY DO A BAN IN RESTAURANTS & WHERE FOOD IS BEING SERVED, IN MY VIEW SMOKERS HAVE JUST AS MANY RIGHTS AS NON-SMOKERS DO, AND I FOR ONE WANT TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE MILLIONS OF POUNDS THAT SMOKERS PAY IN TAXE'S IS GOING TO COME FROM, AND I AM CERTAIN THAT IF THEY WACKED UP YOUR INCOME TAX BY 20/30% TO MAKE UP THE WIND-FALL YOU WOULD BE VERY VERY UNHAPPY & FURIOUS, SO OPEN YOUR EYES REALISE WHAT THE CONCESQUENCES COULD BE & IN MY EYES THEY ARE NOT GOOD.

Fred Ninbus
Ban all smoking in all areas where the pulic congreate

Anne
There should certainly be a smoking ban in all public places - this would be beneficial to everyone - even smokers,

Ross N
A smoking ban in all enclosed public spaces in Jersey would be a great idea. But if this course of action were to be taken, the proper support should be offered to smokers, especially if the ban was not introduced gradually.

Steven Hogan
Smoking should be banned in lounge areas only in my opinion and the bars should be left to the addicted.This is a fair compromise. Also i feel that barstaff who have to work amongst smokers should be smokers themselves, so the non-addict doesnt't have to endure passive smoking. regards Steven

June
I have gone to many good restaurants to which I would not return due to smoking, the last on Saturday night. I was washing my hair at midnight and my dry cleaning bill will be almost as much as the meal. The food was brilliant (Italian) but I won't be back until there is a ban . The Restaurant owner said he can't wait.

G Brodie.
It's great if they bring the smoking ban in all Restaurants bookmakers and pubs that sell food,im a smoker myself not a heavy smoker just every now and then i would love to see the smoking ban come in ASAP.